View Full Version : This is allowed as a political ad?!?!
Linus
05-07-2010, 07:52 AM
Really??
umTITWQuXwY
I mean, I do understand the impetus of fear and security mindedness. But.. really??
Wow.
Just wow.
Why isn't there more outcry about this? Why isn't the nation more shocked at this kind of behaviour?
JustJo
05-07-2010, 08:04 AM
Yeah...Wow....just wow :blink:
MsMerrick
05-07-2010, 08:22 AM
I gather he never heard of Timothy McVeigh ?
What an idiot... and anyone that would vote for him..
imho , of course...
waxnrope
05-07-2010, 08:23 AM
just waiting to see if the obvious becomes discussed on this thread ...
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 08:34 AM
The truly sad/scary thing is that ads like this attract voters. There are plenty of ignorant and racist folks out there and in some parts of this country politicians can actually win by pandering to them. This ad is even worse than the one for some other southern governor who promises to change the DMV test to english-only, because in his state "we speak english".
The_Lady_Snow
05-07-2010, 08:36 AM
Really??
umTITWQuXwY
I mean, I do understand the impetus of fear and security mindedness. But.. really??
Wow.
Just wow.
Why isn't there more outcry about this? Why isn't the nation more shocked at this kind of behaviour?
I am disgusted, but not surprised....
With all that is going on, the people of Middle Eastern descent are going to be just as targeted as latinos because of a few ass hats...
So what does the white man do, they fucking make a commercial of it, puff their chests thump them and take care of the *others*...
It's gross
Watching that made me want to throw up. :(
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 08:55 AM
How racist can they be. A towel? A damn towel on dude's head?
I am so deeply saddened that people who think like this man even exist....that he is running for office is hideously frightening.
I see its on Fox TV.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 08:57 AM
Cause you know, white men have never ever done anything bad.
My jaw is still dropped!
This is just absurdity on a grand scale! What state is this? (Maybe I missed it...)
EDITED: Florida, District 8
Linus
05-07-2010, 09:05 AM
Well, as Jon Stewart pointed out the guy who flew his plane into the IRS was balding. :blink:
just waiting to see if the obvious becomes discussed on this thread ...
Uh... what obvious?
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 09:07 AM
This racist slime is the tea bagger challenging my hero Alan Grayson.
Here's a link to a Faux Newz story about him and his slime ads (there are 3!!!).
slimebucket (http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1434205/candidate_pulls_no_punches_in_new_ads?wpid=5435)
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 09:09 AM
Uh... what obvious?
I wasn't going to bother asking, as drive-bys bug me. Let's assume Godwin's Law and just go ahead and invoke Nazis so that we can move on :-)
The_Lady_Snow
05-07-2010, 09:13 AM
Cause you know, white men have never ever done anything bad.
Really Super Nice White Guys and Gals!!:pcthink:
http://aliveandbitchin.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/david-duke-1979.jpg
http://www.newsnet14.com/images/dukepislogan400.jpg
http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/5/5b/AnitaB.jpg/180px-AnitaB.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cO9E5SOWym0/SZXmaM_sozI/AAAAAAAAAJE/dPufUcLQUmc/s400/59246517_302a2cdabd.jpg
http://www.mass-murderers.com/mass_murderers/mcveigh_time.gif
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/04/01/Hitler_080401095910432_wideweb__300x375.jpg
She put the TERROR in Arizona
http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/9/9/i/6/2/0/p-large/AzGovernor.jpg
Yeah, it's all the *others* that do it never the white man.. Never..
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/union-generals/custer/pictures/custer.jpg
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 09:16 AM
Equally disturbing is that he found actors so desperate for money that they would do an ad for a candidate who wants to racially profile them should he win.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 09:17 AM
So I watched it again, what obvious?
I hate it when people do that, it trips my ocd so I hate to watch the damn thing over and over trying to see what I might have missed.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
ps. yes, I know I am a freak. laugh.
waxnrope
05-07-2010, 09:23 AM
Uh... what obvious?
what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.
FYI, I did not comment right away ... I have learned that one can be severely attacked for mentioning the "R" word. As a relative newbie, I believe that it is wiser for me to "listen" to comments before weighing in with my own. Not so much as to be safer, as if comments of this nature can ever be considered "safe", but to flesh out the thinking of those already established here and to find a way to enter the discussion.
Hopefully, this clarifies what I mean by obvious. If not, you (the general "you") can be pissy ... I don't mind, really. :giggle: Or, you can post something specific that you object to in my natterings.
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 09:30 AM
what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.
I thought you meant something else, as the entire point of the ad is to pander to fear via racism.
Medusa
05-07-2010, 09:35 AM
Here's an ad that is running in Arkansas right now against Bill Halter:
YouTube- Racist Anti-Halter Ad
There have been several uproars about the racism in the ad from multiple groups here and the paper has written several articles about it.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 09:37 AM
what is obvious is the pandering to fear via racialization and racist, ignorant posturing and the promise of TERRORIST acts for those who fit the physical (racial) features of their rants.
FYI, I did not comment right away ... I have learned that one can be severely attacked for mentioning the "R" word. As a relative newbie, I believe that it is wiser for me to "listen" to comments before weighing in with my own. Not so much as to be safer, as if comments of this nature can ever be considered "safe", but to flesh out the thinking of those already established here and to find a way to enter the discussion.
Hopefully, this clarifies what I mean by obvious. If not, you (the general "you") can be pissy ... I don't mind, really. :giggle: Or, you can post something specific that you object to in my natterings.
It's OK, It was very racist. A TOWEL?
I know we can be a tough group!
waxnrope
05-07-2010, 09:46 AM
the name given people of Middle Eastern descent - which somehow became carried over from that of people from South Asia, the Sikhs - were labeled "diaper heads" or "towel heads" by the stupid and ill-informed. I suspect that this ad relates to such derogations of such persons.
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 09:46 AM
Here's an ad that is running in Arkansas right now against Bill Halter:
YouTube- Racist Anti-Halter Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vdqUPIq9Nk)
There have been several uproars about the racism in the ad from multiple groups here and the paper has written several articles about it.
It's not only racist, it's a lie. linkyloo (http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=121324)
THE FACTS: The claims center on WebMethods Inc., a company wher e Halter once served on the board of directors. Halter left the WebMethods board in 2006.
Although the company said it saved costs by opening a Bangalore office, it's a stretch to say the firm shipped American jobs overseas. The company said in a 2006 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it had cut costs by increasing the proportion of its product development staff based in Bangalore, India. The company filings cited by Lincoln's campaign, however, do not refer to the loss of any American jobs in connection with opening the Bangalore office.
Cheryl Hawkins, spokeswoman for Software AG, which owns WebMethods, declined to comment directly on Lincoln's claims. Hawkins said the vast majority of its jobs have stayed in the United States and said the Bangalore facility was opened before Software AG acquired WebMethods.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 09:54 AM
the name given people of Middle Eastern descent - which somehow became carried over from that of people from South Asia, the Sikhs - were labeled "diaper heads" or "towel heads" by the stupid and ill-informed. I suspect that this ad relates to such derogations of such persons.
Oh totally understand the connection, just never thought I would see something so literaly racist.
Unbelievable!
JustJo
05-07-2010, 09:58 AM
The scary part is that people will vote for him.... :blink:
Gemme
05-07-2010, 10:12 AM
My jaw is still dropped!
This is just absurdity on a grand scale! What state is this? (Maybe I missed it...)
EDITED: Florida, District 8
I haven't been in Florida for more than 4 years.
I didn't do it. :blink:
Disgusting is right.
waxnrope
05-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Oh totally understand the connection, just never thought I would see something so literaly racist.
Unbelievable!
yes, it really is. looks like those white sheets are coming out of the closet and getting dusted off for reappearance. sigh. It is, and it has been building for some time, a very scary time in this country.
Rockinonahigh
05-07-2010, 10:17 AM
I went threw the 60's with all this crap of asshatism,I had hoped over the years we had evolved into a better world,for some of us .yes we did for others like theis racist pig..no.Far to many will pay the price for his ignorance and bigatry.I hope ppl will come to a right thinking mind when they are ready to vote.
Is it just me? Or does it seem that some sort of "permission" has been granted for all of this 1960's behavior to resurface?
What is happening here? What did I miss? From where is this "courage" to be rude/racist/intolerant/etc. COMING???
Have I been an ostrich?
Is the "climate" going backwards?
Am I sort of afraid by this? Yeah. I am. A little. So call me a wimpy 'fraidy cat. I don't mind admitting it.....and I'm white, for heaven's sakes! (A really pale, milky~creamy Scot/Irish white....)
MsDemeanor
05-07-2010, 10:35 AM
Have I been an ostrich?
Yeah, back on Jan 20, 2009 they put a black man in the White House - you must have been out of school that day *wink* No, seriously, I'm guessing that some of this comes up in every election cycle, but it's getting more widely noticed thanks to the internet.
The militias and anti-government conservatives crawl out of the dung heap every time there's a Democrat in the WH, but it hasn't been this bad since the 60's.
Yeah, back on Jan 20, 2009 they put a black man in the White House - you must have been out of school that day *wink* No, seriously, I'm guessing that some of this comes up in every election cycle, but it's getting more widely noticed thanks to the internet.
The militias and anti-government conservatives crawl out of the dung heap every time there's a Democrat in the WH, but it hasn't been this bad since the 60's.
Oh THAT!
Wow.
So their hate/fear mongering is because THEY'RE afraid.......ok. I'm not so afraid now.....
Thanks Ms D....
Rockinonahigh
05-07-2010, 10:46 AM
Diva...Yes,we are going threw another round of the 60's hope its not like before.Onething I do know with evry big change in social inviroment come with things like this.Has no on ever herd of live long and prosper..they need to grow up and come into this century.
always2late
05-07-2010, 12:00 PM
Well I, for one, am very happy about this ad. I now know how to spot a terrorist.....its everyone except the semi-albino old man! AND I also learned that should I ever see a man with a towel on his head, duct tape over his mouth, and a bomb strapped to his chest trying to board a plane, I should alert security IMMEDIATELY. THANKS DAN!!
Unfortunately, I wish I could say I am surprised at this ad, however, the only thing that surprises me is that no one made something similar sooner. Hate and fearmongering are political tools, and always will be. That's why we had GW for four more years, why the Patriot Act was signed, why DADT is still in existence, why Prop 8 passed, what's going on in Arizona....the list goes on and on.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 12:24 PM
Well I, for one, am very happy about this ad. I now know how to spot a terrorist.....its everyone except the semi-albino old man! AND I also learned that should I ever see a man with a towel on his head, duct tape over his mouth, and a bomb strapped to his chest trying to board a plane, I should alert security IMMEDIATELY. THANKS DAN!!
Unfortunately, I wish I could say I am surprised at this ad, however, the only thing that surprises me is that no one made something similar sooner. Hate and fearmongering are political tools, and always will be. That's why we had GW for four more years, why the Patriot Act was signed, why DADT is still in existence, why Prop 8 passed, what's going on in Arizona....the list goes on and on.
I better remember not to have tape over my mouth if my hair is wet in the future. Grin! and no bombs in the shower! Check!
I really am surprised its so blatant and literal.
It is the 60's again in so many ways.
dreadgeek
05-07-2010, 02:37 PM
Is it just me? Or does it seem that some sort of "permission" has been granted for all of this 1960's behavior to resurface?
What is happening here? What did I miss? From where is this "courage" to be rude/racist/intolerant/etc. COMING???
A couple of things happened. For one, as MsD pointed out we elected a black man to the highest office in the land. For another, the Internet has allowed the proliferation of all kinds of speech with no kind of filtering. So now we have a culture where the following things are true:
1) People have a sincere belief that if you *believe* something is true, it is, in fact, *actually* true. Meaning that it doesn't really matter that Barack Obama was born in the United States, if you *believe* he was born in Kenya then he was born in Kenya and no one 'has the right to take away your free speech' and insist that you are wrong.
2) The Right has been so effective at crying 'political correctness' and the Left has been so effective at delivering themselves into the hands of the Right that now, they have completely inoculated themselves from any criticism of racism. (Thus this ad. The guy is going to be accused of racism in polite company and he's going to say that "if protecting America makes me a racist, I'm a proud racist") Can you imagine someone in 1980 saying that they were a proud racist? I can't.
3) Please forgive me for putting this quite so bluntly but there are a lot of white folks out there (not saying anyone here) who are doing the demographic math and not liking what they are seeing. Thus the 'take our country back' rhetoric. And from the point of view of lot of these older folks, they HAVE lost their country. I'm 43, I was born just as things were *really* starting to change. So imagine the perspective of someone who is 20 or 30 years older than me.
They were born in, say, 1947. When they were in their early twenties, you could still tell overtly racist jokes in polite company and everyone would laugh. If you were a man, it was exceedingly unlikely that you were going to have to compete with anyone except another white man for any given job. You could grope, grab and cat-whistle at women without anyone saying you were a cad (they might think it) and if they did, you and your buddies could all laugh at how ridiculous they were being. You could make fun of people of other religions, including Jews, with absolute impunity. You could do "Charlie Chan" impersonations of Asians and bad impersonations of the extras from Lawrence of Arabia with absolute and total impunity. Gays and lesbians, when you thought of them at all, were what you didn't want your children to be and would lock them up so that they could have an intimate understanding of the 'electro' part of the electromagnetic spectrum in the form of shock therapy.
Then it changed. First, my parents generation managed to convince the majority that they, too, were real and actual Americans and people and thus deserved to be treated as citizens and not children of some lesser god. Then women stood up and demanded that we, too, were citizens and not children of some lesser kind of goddess. At the same time, more and more non-white groups emigrated to America and because of the work of my parent's generation, they expected acceptance. Then queer people stood up and decided that, we too, should be included in that definition of 'citizen'. And all of this happened in a period, realistically, covering from 1950 to 2000. That's in the living memory of every generation born in the 20th century!
So here they are. No longer are they the undisputed masters and mistresses of the Universe. Hell, they are not even the undisputed masters and mistresses of America! Now, newly arrived immigrants expect to be treated like people and not just amusing local color. Now queer people are expecting to be treated like citizens and not some interesting curiosity nor are we willing to be silent while people hide behind their religion to justify their bigotry.
That's a lot to assimilate in a very short time. Now, I'm not saying that I feel particularly sorry for this lot--quite honestly, I don't. One thing I wish some thinker (and there are some very smart right-wing thinkers out there) on that side would realize is this: the demographic die that has them freaking out so much is already cast. If everyone keeps behaving just as they are right now, in between 35 and 45 years from now the United States will no longer be a majority white nation. How that goes for what will then be the white minority may be decided not then but now. Think about it, somewhere in a hospital in this country, a future President of the United States is being born as are future members of Congress and members of the Supreme court. Less loftily, future hiring managers and future voters are being born. Seems to me, if I were seeing that change coming down the track at me, I would want there to be something remotely resembling racial harmony in this country. This kind of thing seems really short-sighted and perhaps part of the issue is that this lot will, for the most part, not *be* here in 2050 but their children and grandchildren will be and they are making a very hard bed for their descendants to lie in.
I've been trying to compose a rational, intelligent post on this thread, but I just ... words just escape me. Political consulting and speechwriting is a lucrative freelance sideline for me...but I just shudder to think what Democrats and reasonable Republicans (i.e. my clients) will be facing this fall. Good thing I am limiting myself to 4 candidates and one ballot issue.
Jake
Andrew, Jr.
05-07-2010, 03:08 PM
Sad, esp. in this day and age.
Apocalipstic
05-07-2010, 03:23 PM
A couple of things happened. For one, as MsD pointed out we elected a black man to the highest office in the land. For another, the Internet has allowed the proliferation of all kinds of speech with no kind of filtering. So now we have a culture where the following things are true:
1) People have a sincere belief that if you *believe* something is true, it is, in fact, *actually* true. Meaning that it doesn't really matter that Barack Obama was born in the United States, if you *believe* he was born in Kenya then he was born in Kenya and no one 'has the right to take away your free speech' and insist that you are wrong.
2) The Right has been so effective at crying 'political correctness' and the Left has been so effective at delivering themselves into the hands of the Right that now, they have completely inoculated themselves from any criticism of racism. (Thus this ad. The guy is going to be accused of racism in polite company and he's going to say that "if protecting America makes me a racist, I'm a proud racist") Can you imagine someone in 1980 saying that they were a proud racist? I can't.
3) Please forgive me for putting this quite so bluntly but there are a lot of white folks out there (not saying anyone here) who are doing the demographic math and not liking what they are seeing. Thus the 'take our country back' rhetoric. And from the point of view of lot of these older folks, they HAVE lost their country. I'm 43, I was born just as things were *really* starting to change. So imagine the perspective of someone who is 20 or 30 years older than me.
They were born in, say, 1947. When they were in their early twenties, you could still tell overtly racist jokes in polite company and everyone would laugh. If you were a man, it was exceedingly unlikely that you were going to have to compete with anyone except another white man for any given job. You could grope, grab and cat-whistle at women without anyone saying you were a cad (they might think it) and if they did, you and your buddies could all laugh at how ridiculous they were being. You could make fun of people of other religions, including Jews, with absolute impunity. You could do "Charlie Chan" impersonations of Asians and bad impersonations of the extras from Lawrence of Arabia with absolute and total impunity. Gays and lesbians, when you thought of them at all, were what you didn't want your children to be and would lock them up so that they could have an intimate understanding of the 'electro' part of the electromagnetic spectrum in the form of shock therapy.
Then it changed. First, my parents generation managed to convince the majority that they, too, were real and actual Americans and people and thus deserved to be treated as citizens and not children of some lesser god. Then women stood up and demanded that we, too, were citizens and not children of some lesser kind of goddess. At the same time, more and more non-white groups emigrated to America and because of the work of my parent's generation, they expected acceptance. Then queer people stood up and decided that, we too, should be included in that definition of 'citizen'. And all of this happened in a period, realistically, covering from 1950 to 2000. That's in the living memory of every generation born in the 20th century!
So here they are. No longer are they the undisputed masters and mistresses of the Universe. Hell, they are not even the undisputed masters and mistresses of America! Now, newly arrived immigrants expect to be treated like people and not just amusing local color. Now queer people are expecting to be treated like citizens and not some interesting curiosity nor are we willing to be silent while people hide behind their religion to justify their bigotry.
That's a lot to assimilate in a very short time. Now, I'm not saying that I feel particularly sorry for this lot--quite honestly, I don't. One thing I wish some thinker (and there are some very smart right-wing thinkers out there) on that side would realize is this: the demographic die that has them freaking out so much is already cast. If everyone keeps behaving just as they are right now, in between 35 and 45 years from now the United States will no longer be a majority white nation. How that goes for what will then be the white minority may be decided not then but now. Think about it, somewhere in a hospital in this country, a future President of the United States is being born as are future members of Congress and members of the Supreme court. Less loftily, future hiring managers and future voters are being born. Seems to me, if I were seeing that change coming down the track at me, I would want there to be something remotely resembling racial harmony in this country. This kind of thing seems really short-sighted and perhaps part of the issue is that this lot will, for the most part, not *be* here in 2050 but their children and grandchildren will be and they are making a very hard bed for their descendants to lie in.
I think a lot about why this is happening, about why we think the way we do and people we grew up with may or may not agree and what moment made the difference.
Was it church, was it school? Was it that we read and they didn't?
I am 46 and I remember how things were when I was a small kid when we would visit the US. It makes me so incredibly sad to see so many of those same things happening all over again.
Things I thought were past.
Internet, 24hour news channels, pundits...
Sorry for the ramble. I really hate negative political campaigning, and this ad may be the worst I have seen.
waxnrope
05-07-2010, 08:45 PM
A couple of things happened. For one, as MsD pointed out we elected a black man to the highest office in the land. For another, the Internet has allowed the proliferation of all kinds of speech with no kind of filtering. So now we have a culture where the following things are true:
1) People have a sincere belief that if you *believe* something is true, it is, in fact, *actually* true. Meaning that it doesn't really matter that Barack Obama was born in the United States, if you *believe* he was born in Kenya then he was born in Kenya and no one 'has the right to take away your free speech' and insist that you are wrong.
2) The Right has been so effective at crying 'political correctness' and the Left has been so effective at delivering themselves into the hands of the Right that now, they have completely inoculated themselves from any criticism of racism. (Thus this ad. The guy is going to be accused of racism in polite company and he's going to say that "if protecting America makes me a racist, I'm a proud racist") Can you imagine someone in 1980 saying that they were a proud racist? I can't.
3) Please forgive me for putting this quite so bluntly but there are a lot of white folks out there (not saying anyone here) who are doing the demographic math and not liking what they are seeing. Thus the 'take our country back' rhetoric. And from the point of view of lot of these older folks, they HAVE lost their country. I'm 43, I was born just as things were *really* starting to change. So imagine the perspective of someone who is 20 or 30 years older than me.
They were born in, say, 1947. When they were in their early twenties, you could still tell overtly racist jokes in polite company and everyone would laugh. If you were a man, it was exceedingly unlikely that you were going to have to compete with anyone except another white man for any given job. You could grope, grab and cat-whistle at women without anyone saying you were a cad (they might think it) and if they did, you and your buddies could all laugh at how ridiculous they were being. You could make fun of people of other religions, including Jews, with absolute impunity. You could do "Charlie Chan" impersonations of Asians and bad impersonations of the extras from Lawrence of Arabia with absolute and total impunity. Gays and lesbians, when you thought of them at all, were what you didn't want your children to be and would lock them up so that they could have an intimate understanding of the 'electro' part of the electromagnetic spectrum in the form of shock therapy.
Then it changed. First, my parents generation managed to convince the majority that they, too, were real and actual Americans and people and thus deserved to be treated as citizens and not children of some lesser god. Then women stood up and demanded that we, too, were citizens and not children of some lesser kind of goddess. At the same time, more and more non-white groups emigrated to America and because of the work of my parent's generation, they expected acceptance. Then queer people stood up and decided that, we too, should be included in that definition of 'citizen'. And all of this happened in a period, realistically, covering from 1950 to 2000. That's in the living memory of every generation born in the 20th century!
So here they are. No longer are they the undisputed masters and mistresses of the Universe. Hell, they are not even the undisputed masters and mistresses of America! Now, newly arrived immigrants expect to be treated like people and not just amusing local color. Now queer people are expecting to be treated like citizens and not some interesting curiosity nor are we willing to be silent while people hide behind their religion to justify their bigotry.
That's a lot to assimilate in a very short time. Now, I'm not saying that I feel particularly sorry for this lot--quite honestly, I don't. One thing I wish some thinker (and there are some very smart right-wing thinkers out there) on that side would realize is this: the demographic die that has them freaking out so much is already cast. If everyone keeps behaving just as they are right now, in between 35 and 45 years from now the United States will no longer be a majority white nation. How that goes for what will then be the white minority may be decided not then but now. Think about it, somewhere in a hospital in this country, a future President of the United States is being born as are future members of Congress and members of the Supreme court. Less loftily, future hiring managers and future voters are being born. Seems to me, if I were seeing that change coming down the track at me, I would want there to be something remotely resembling racial harmony in this country. This kind of thing seems really short-sighted and perhaps part of the issue is that this lot will, for the most part, not *be* here in 2050 but their children and grandchildren will be and they are making a very hard bed for their descendants to lie in.
some of "this lot", unfortunately, are among us ... and that is not only a shame, it is stupid.
torchiegirl
05-07-2010, 08:53 PM
You have got to be kidding! This is so outlandish I'm still laughing! This has to be one of the more ridiculous things I have seen. O.k., this was a skit on late night television, right?
I'm still having problems accepting the notion that this was/is a for REAL ad. I have so much trouble believing that people act like this and actually think it's OK!! And even worse that others think it's an OK or GOOD thing. :wtf:
Mister Bent
05-07-2010, 10:50 PM
I'm still having problems accepting the notion that this was/is a for REAL ad. I have so much trouble believing that people act like this and actually think it's OK!! And even worse that others think it's an OK or GOOD thing. :wtf:
Where truth is stranger than fiction.
dreadgeek
05-08-2010, 05:15 AM
I'm still having problems accepting the notion that this was/is a for REAL ad. I have so much trouble believing that people act like this and actually think it's OK!! And even worse that others think it's an OK or GOOD thing. :wtf:
But given that there are people who do think like this and do think this ad is completely appropriate, wouldn't you rather know they are there so you can see them coming? As completely repulsive as the ad is, it's one more thing that we can point at and say, "okay, when we're talking about this bigotry this is what we mean..."
Anyone who, knowing about this ad, puts this guy's campaign sign on their lawn is advertising to their neighbors "I'm a bigoted prick and I vote my conscience". If I were that person's neighbor, I'd want to know that. Anyone who puts a bumper sticker with this guy's name on it is advertising to the world just where he stands. If I were that person's co-worker, I'd want to know where he stands so I can give them something of a wide berth.
It's still odious and obnoxious that people would think this kind of thing at all acceptable, but there are people who *do* think just that and if they make it that much easier to spot them so I can either avoid them or be on my guard well, all the better.
Lastly, that ad is going to be an albatross around his neck for the rest of his political career. If he ever aspired to national office, he can pretty much cash that one in because it's likely never going to happen now and if he *were* the national candidate for, say, some third-party formed by disaffected Republicans that ad would dog him through any campaign. Hell, he's running against Alan Greyson and he just handed Greyson a gift! You think for a minute Greyson won't use it against him in the general election? If his campaign manager doesn't have a copy of that ad tucked away someplace to be deployed when needed, then that person is guilty of gross professional negligence.
Cheers
Aj (Who loves Alan Greyson because he's willing to stand up for himself and what he believes in--makes me amazed he's actually a Democrat)
Heart
05-08-2010, 06:17 AM
It's not just racism -- the U.S. is marching towards fascism.
May I just say that I am in the process of renewing my passport...in case I have to leave the country....
You think I'm kidding.
Andrew, Jr.
05-08-2010, 05:40 PM
I renewed my passport last week.
Boots13
05-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I couldn't begin to tell you how to spot a terrorist, and I'm in the business (spotting, not terrorizing)
It never ceases to amaze me when misguided or biased people make sweeping generalizations based on Race,
Religion, Politics or Gender. None of these are indicators of terrorists. Look for suspicious BEHAVIORS.
If you're packing fertilizer and diesel fuel into the bed of your truck, that action is going to grab my attention.
If you're sweating and nervous on a cool day, while checking the wick in the sole of your shoe...
If you show up at the City water supply and start chucking vials of ??? over the fence
If you're a disgruntled scientist working at Government bio-defense labs...sending a whole lotta letters. Helllll-oooooo...
If you're a U.S. Military Explosives Specialist and continue to play with explosives as a civilian...
it isn't a cute phase he's going to grow out of...
Race, Religion, Politics, Gender is not a component necessary to complete any of these scenarios.
...and if anyone remembers, the suspects in the above mentioned scenarios are US Citizens. Terrorists
recognized only after they initiated their activity.
Anyway, I had hoped this was a spoof done in bad taste...and realizing it wasn't,
my next thought (not exactly an evolved thought) was
"you're fucking kidding me"
MsDemeanor
05-08-2010, 06:47 PM
IIf you're sweating and nervous on a cool day, while checking the wick in the sole of your shoe...
This one made me giggle.....
Yeah, I it's a political ad. Just very,very poorly done.
Stereotyping is scary. I think someone named Hitler did it first.
MissItalianDiva
05-09-2010, 05:21 PM
Wow....disturbed and pissed off. First of all how the hell are they going to sensor the word bitch and fuck on television but show this on a free television...How the heck does that fly. Secondly who is this ignorant ass....this man needs to be taken out back somewhere. Also as mentioned how are these actors even choosing to participate in such a degrading commercial. This is the bottom of the barrel and exactly why there is some much hate and continued racial tension in the world. I expect more from anyone but this is truly uncalled for....Shame on him!
Linus
05-17-2010, 05:56 AM
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Now this is a PSA. I have to admit I LOL'd huge at the end. :cheesy:
MsDemeanor
05-17-2010, 10:38 AM
Thank you Linus. That was the best friggin PSA EVER!!!!!!
JustJo
05-17-2010, 10:49 AM
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Now this is a PSA. I have to admit I LOL'd huge at the end. :cheesy:
Love this...hope you don't mind that I borrowed it for my Facebook page :)
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