I am a Lesbian/Man/Tman and I like Lesbians/Men/Transmen because....

[bonne-maman]

This thread is a response to the "misogyny/sexism in BF community" thread that is currently struggling with hurt. I know there are other variations of struggle between other subsets of us...but today I want to say nice things about Tmen and Men....so that's what I am doin!

If you identify as a:

1) Lesbian (butch or femme)
And you have something great to say about the Transmen or Men in your life,

OR

if you identify as a
2) Transman
3) Man

And you have something you love about the Lesbians you know.....

Say it here!

I am putting this in the "Gender" umbrella as I didn't want to pick either the Lesbian zone or the Transgender zone.

[bonne-maman]

their testosterone (if they have/take it) gives them big arm muscles and I have no qualms about needing big-arm-muscle people in my life.

And Kudos to the big muscles of non-testosterone taking Tmen, and butches (who almost all have bigger muscles than me).

[bonne-maman]

they use fewer words to get their point across and that is the most giant relief when one hangs out with a buncha lesbians a lot of the time.

[bonne-maman]

(this one is about Tmen)

they are COMPLICATED, complex, an amalgem, they intrigue me greatly.

[Corkey]

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

[bonne-maman]

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

Thanks Corkey! Can you express something about what you love about her being a Lesbian? Something you like that is just...so, so....lesbian about her?

:bouquet:

[Corkey]

Thanks Corkey! Can you express something about what you love about her being a Lesbian? Something you like that is just...so, so....lesbian about her?

:bouquet:

The way she loves me up, she's a giver. :)

[bonne-maman]

I love it when Tmen go to lesbian-focused events and bravely and politely assert their right to be there.

[bonne-maman]

they amuse me because they are so different from me.


[bonne -->:hippie: --> "WTF are you up to anyway?"] [ Tman/Man/boy/boi --->:toypony: "Whee!"]

[bonne-maman]

Now I am editing my edits and don't have room.

I was saying that butches amuse me too, but I am trying here to make up for being a Y-chromosome hater in my distant past.

[bonne-maman]

I was right. Waiting is hard.
:eatinghersheybar:

[Corkey]

Give it time folks are working.

[bonne-maman]

Give it time folks are working.

Thank you Corkey. Must take my own advice.
:eatinghersheybar:

and
:wine:

[Liam]

I am a man, and I love my best friend, who is a lesbian; she can organise a large group of people quickly, and get the show on the road, so the fun (fishing, hiking, party, pretty near anything,) can commence that much sooner.

[Liam]

Now I am editing my edits and don't have room.

I was saying that butches amuse me too, but I am trying here to make up for being a Y-chromosome hater in my distant past.

You've already made up for it, Bonne—you of the beautiful countenance and heart. :)

[SuperFemme]

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

[Gemme]

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

Yes! I feel this way too.

[AtLast]

This thread is a response to the "misogyny/sexism in BF community" thread that is currently struggling with hurt. I know there are other variations of struggle between other subsets of us...but today I want to say nice things about Tmen and Men....so that's what I am doin!

If you identify as a:

1) Lesbian (butch or femme)
And you have something great to say about the Transmen or Men in your life,


I am a lesbian butch and I am thankful for the Transmen in my life from childhood and presently. One I am very thankful for is a terrific father to my late partner's daughter and was the kind of person that one can have positive interaction with as the non-co-parent, partner of his ex-partner with. (Are you dizzy?)

My intergendered cousin that I have only recently know of is one fine woman and I am always amazed at the shit she had thrown at her in her 76 years of life. Getting a perspective from someone this age is amazing!

I adore my son, a wonderful feminist man that is a very good husband and father. He brings joy to my life as does his daughters and fine wife.

OR

if you identify as a
2) Transman
3) Man

And you have something you love about the Lesbians you know.....

Say it here!

My close lesbian friends share similiar politics and I love it that I can count on them not to perpetuate hatred of all things male! Also, I do love their understanding of my butch persona.
I am putting this in the "Gender" umbrella as I didn't want to pick either the Lesbian zone or the Transgender zone.

Thanks for this thread!!!

[JustLovelyJenn]

I am a lesbian... and like SuperFemme, I have many Trans friends who are each unique and wonderful. I love how one transman friend of mine always has something nice to say about others... how another can get down on the grass with a group of children and completely occupy their attention for an hour. I love that another trans friend of mine tries so hard to please everyone around them AND is learning to do so without compromising hys own happiness.

I guess my point is that everyone I know has some wonderful quality about them.

I love MY trans because Hy is the most loving and caring person I have had in my life in a great many years. I love that Hy notices everything about me, that Hy is a cleaner, which compliments my organizer side. I love that Hy is happy in Hys own skin...

I think that this is what I love most about all my trans friends... that they are happy and content in who they are.

[bonne-maman]

I am a man, and I love my best friend, who is a lesbian; she can organise a large group of people quickly, and get the show on the road, so the fun (fishing, hiking, party, pretty near anything,) can commence that much sooner.

Oh yes, many lesbians I know are known for their organizational skills. The non-profit world wouldn't be the same without em.

[bonne-maman]

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

I agree that it feels awkward to single out a group for why we like them. I had the desire to challenge myself to this (enjoyable) task, as a way to continue my own evolvement. Sometimes its good to really think about why it is that we like certain people. It can tell us something about ourselves, or about the ones we love. Thanks for your response SF.

[The_Lady_Snow]

I am a dyke who loves few people, there are transmen and guys who I have mad respect for in individual measures.

It's nothing physical, it's what kind of humans and beings they are with people and those around them. I admire their strength and am blessed for they are in my life.

I can say the same thing for my lesbian friends, I have mad respect for them, their passion, their inner strength the work they do etc etc.

I love few, I love the guy I am with because for the first time in my lifetime, I can be me and he likes it, appreciates it and he is just as fucking strong and sick as I am.

I love my lesbian sisters because I can rest my head upon their breast and just be and it's soothing and I like it. Some I love more than others and one I would give my right arm for....

I dunno if this is what you intended :|

[WingsOnFire]

I love it when Tmen go to lesbian-focused events and bravely and politely assert their right to be there.
This brought a smile to my face... I was the president of a lesbian group and my last function was a Christmas party with 30 or so lesbians... My trans man came and stood beside me showing his right to be there. He didnt quite want to be there... but he did it for me...

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

I hear what you are saying SF... I wasnt looking to fall in love with a trans man... But I fell head over heels with him... because he is loving, caring gentle, fierce, demanding, giving, protective.... everything I could ever want... I love him for who "he" is... I couldnt imagine life any different...

And I am too am glad when others make room for each other...

Great post...

[SuperFemme]

I agree that it feels awkward to single out a group for why we like them. I had the desire to challenge myself to this (enjoyable) task, as a way to continue my own evolvement. Sometimes its good to really think about why it is that we like certain people. It can tell us something about ourselves, or about the ones we love. Thanks for your response SF.

I love your thread and the sentiments where it comes.

I am always up for evolving. In that process I try to participate on the level that am currently on, and I really hope that my response did not imply that this is not a fabulous thread.

Thank you for starting it.

[TenderKnight]

I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said :)

I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying *really* hard to not call me by my birth name.

I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am.

That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian.

-Tony

[bonne-maman]

I am a dyke who loves few people, there are transmen and guys who I have mad respect for in individual measures.

It's nothing physical, it's what kind of humans and beings they are with people and those around them. I admire their strength and am blessed for they are in my life.

I can say the same thing for my lesbian friends, I have mad respect for them, their passion, their inner strength the work they do etc etc.

I love few, I love the guy I am with because for the first time in my lifetime, I can be me and he likes it, appreciates it and he is just as fucking strong and sick as I am.

I love my lesbian sisters because I can rest my head upon their breast and just be and it's soothing and I like it. Some I love more than others and one I would give my right arm for....

I dunno if this is what you intended :|

Snow, I intended for people to dwell on why they like, admire, or love other people. We seemed to specifically need some Tmen/Lesbian luv. Your post is dashing and wonderful and full of what we need. Thanks.

[bonne-maman]

I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said :)

I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying *really* hard to not call me by my birth name.

I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am.

That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian.

-Tony

Tender Tony, How wonderful to have a lesbian grandmother. Thank you.

[Sam]

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around :)

[bonne-maman]

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around :)

Sam,so great you dropped in! What do you like or admire about the lesbians you know??? :tea: Or the men, or Tmen, or anybody really.

[Stearns]

I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

[TenderKnight]

Tender Tony, How wonderful to have a lesbian grandmother. Thank you.

Thank you for your comment and for this thread.. However, i just want to be clear, it was my Godmother, not my grandmother.. Both of my grandmothers didn't care for my godmother, since she is a person of color.. My maternal grandmother was a lot better with it then my adoptive paternal grandmother, who i don't really have a lot of good things to say about.

In any case :) Thank you for your comment on my post, I look forward to more positive thoughts and words here to come.

-Tony

[Sam]

Sam,so great you dropped in! What do you like or admire about the lesbians you know??? :tea: Or the men, or Tmen, or anybody really.

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

[Queerasfck]

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.


Weird response.

[Mister Bent]

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to something negative and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

[bonne-maman]

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

I will count myself as confused then, as the purpose of this thread.......oh, silly me. You can read. The purpose of this thread is clearly stated at the beginning.

You get along with femmes of the lesbian nature? How grand. :koolaid:

just left wondering why I wouldn't care for your opinion then.....

[Sam]

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to something negative and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

your opinion of course.

differences of opinions from all walks of life Bent. you keep yours, i will keep mine.

[bonne-maman]

Weird response.

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to negativity and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

:hippie: I love these gents. Fellows, you're always welcome in my thread! Let's hear why you love lesbians. I am sure Sam would like to hear! :tea:

[Sam]

Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

[Corkey]

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around :)

Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

[TenderKnight]

*sighs and ducks and covers*

here is comes, folks.. hold on to your asses..

[Sam]

Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

Thanks Corkey, i was not sure in the last couple years if you decided to take T, that is all i was wondering.

thank you for clarifying

[Corkey]

What, a pleasant answer to an honest question. Really, put your guard down.

[Corkey]

Thanks Corkey, i was not sure in the last couple years if you decided to take T, that is all i was wondering.

thank you for clarifying

No problem Sam. Have a good evening.

[Queerasfck]

:hippie: I love these gents. Fellows, you're always welcome in my thread! Let's hear why you love lesbians. I am sure Sam would like to hear! :tea:

Thanks Pasha. Of course I love my lesbian sisters. It was nice of you to start this thread and beautiful to read. Maybe Sam can learn something from it. I just learned something by reading it.

[bonne-maman]

Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

Sam and Corkey! Hello! Its almost enough for a party. Now remember, the question of the evening is "Why Do You Like Lesbians?" Corkey has already shared a loving tidbit about his lady love. Sam, you're next in the circle. Here. :rrose: Hold this. Whoever is holding the rose must share with us an admiration of the lesbian sort. Go ahead Sam. Don't be shy.

[bonne-maman]

Thanks Pasha. Of course I love my lesbian sisters. It was nice of you to start this thread and beautiful to read. Maybe Sam can learn something from it. I just learned something by reading it.

If you were here I would give you a brownie with your tea Mr. Ezee. You certainly deserve one! Spa does make good brownies!

[Sam]

i'm not shy. but the girlie type of lesbian has an aura about them. better?

[TenderKnight]

*sighs and ducks and covers*

here is comes, folks.. hold on to your asses..

I am truely hoping that my sarcasim here was uncalled for.. and if so, I am sorry for interrupting the flow of the thread..

Another reason why I admire lesbians? Because they are proud of being a woman that loves other women.

[Sam]

thank you:rrose:

[bonne-maman]

i'm not shy. but the girlie type of lesbian has an aura about them. better?

Sam, I love when you guys love girlie lesbians! That is one of the things I love about Tmen, when they love girlie lesbians! You get a brownie Mister!

[Mister Bent]

your opinion of course.

differences of opinions from all walks of life Bent. you keep yours, i will keep mine.

My opinion is that you should state yours more clearly, if you really want us to buy this attempt at back-peddling:

Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

I think that's incredibly obvious, Sam. I think we're all pretty well versed that not all femmes consider themselves lesbian, which has zero relevance to the thread.

There is no way, from the way you worded your comment, that you can honestly expect anyone here to believe "that was all you meant."

It was damned disrespectful to the intent of the thread. Own it.

[pajama]

I'm not male or transgendered, label me whatever you please, doesn't matter to me.

I love the two Tmen that I have dated because:
1. They are handsome as sin!
2. Fantastic, creative lovers with some hella stamina.
3. Both, I've heard (didn't know them pre), are much happier with themselves and that shows in how they present to others.
4. Both would do anything to help their friends, both locally and afar.
5. And Both have had the COURAGE to transition at work and at large, and that is amazingly brave! So I totally respect them for that!

I appreciate this thread to uplift our brothers and sisters, not belittle them with left-handed compliments.

A

[bonne-maman]

I am truely hoping that my sarcasim here was uncalled for.. and if so, I am sorry for interrupting the flow of the thread..

Another reason why I admire lesbians? Because they are proud of being a woman that loves other women.

Tender, We Lesbians do have some pride goin on, don't we?

You know though, that is exactly one of the reasons I love Tmen. They are so, without fear or regret, proud of their brave selves. Takes my breath away the struggle they go through and maintain all that pride. Love.

[bonne-maman]

Mister Clark Kent, here. :rrose: Hold the rose. Tell me why you like me. (or any other lesbians).

I like you because you are funny and you are a big enough man to identify yourself without the traditional Tman trappings.

[bonne-maman]

I'm not male or transgendered, label me whatever you please, doesn't matter to me.

I love the two Tmen that I have dated because:
1. They are handsome as sin!
2. Fantastic, creative lovers with some hella stamina.
3. Both, I've heard (didn't know them pre), are much happier with themselves and that shows in how they present to others.
4. Both would do anything to help their friends, both locally and afar.
5. And Both have had the COURAGE to transition at work and at large, and that is amazingly brave! So I totally respect them for that!

I appreciate this thread to uplift our brothers and sisters, not belittle them with left-handed compliments.

A

Transitioning in the larger world is absolutely awe inspiring. I agree Pajara. It makes the whole world a better place when Transpeople make this path.

[Mister Bent]

Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian. I respect the life you've lived and the people and causes you've represented. I admire the gays, lesbians and trans people who have come before me, you and the rest of us, who have allowed us to have the voices we do today.

I have been guilty, in the past, of generalizations that were hurtful, because of hurtful, backlash encounters I'd had. You are one of the people who has gotten me to look at those behaviors and adjust my perspective accordingly.

I like people who are willing to build bridges, not desperately cling to tired stereotypes.

[bonne-maman]

I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

Stearns, I seem to have been so busy pouring the fucking tea (smile) that I missed your post at first. Thank you. We lesbians are a dogged bunch about making change, I agree.

Here's some tea Mister. :tea:

[bonne-maman]

Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian. I respect the life you've lived and the people and causes you've represented. I admire the gays, lesbians and trans people who have come before me, you and the rest of us, who have allowed us to have the voices we do toay.

I have been guilty, in the past, of generalizations that were hurtful, because of hurtful, backlash encounters I'd had. You are one of the people who have gotten me to look at those behaviors and adjust my perspective accordingly.

I like people who are willing to build bridges, not desperately cling to tired stereotypes.

Two brownies for you Mister Vent. I am a sucker for compliments. Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

[Queerasfck]

Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

Woot Woot!!!
If this thread's rockin don't come a knockin!!

[apretty]

Well, Pasha, you know you just might be my favorite lesbian.

i also like the Pasha!!

but i am not sure it's about 'lesbian' or about the way that i feel that she communicates with this brave sort of honesty/transparency. or maybe it's her dog. either way, i <3 Pasha!!

(and i probably don't belong in this thread as i feel "queer" fits me best most days--but there are lesbians and trans-people that i admire and respect for the people they are--they just also happen to be either lesbian or trans.

*disliking an entire group of people says more about the "disliker" than the group of people!!*)

[bonne-maman]

Stearns, I seem to have been so busy pouring the fucking tea (smile) that I missed your post at first. Thank you. We lesbians are a dogged bunch about making change, I agree.

Here's some tea Mister. :tea:

And a brownie!

I went diggin in the cupboard for some wine and I couldn't find the damn stuff.

[Mister Bent]

Two brownies for you Mister Vent. I am a sucker for compliments. Let's put somethin stronger in that damn tea shall we? :tea:

I vote for gin, skip the tea.

[bonne-maman]

i also like the Pasha!!

but i am not sure it's about 'lesbian' or about the way that i feel that she communicates with this brave sort of honesty/transparency. or maybe it's her dog. either way, i <3 Pasha!!

(and i probably don't belong in this thread as i feel "queer" fits me best most days--but there are lesbians and trans-people that i admire and respect for the people they are--they just also happen to be either lesbian or trans.

*disliking an entire group of people says more about the "disliker" than the group of people!!*)

I won't turn back the love no matter how you ID fam! Jump on the luv wagon, I'll be the captain. :pirate-steer: <--- love pirate

[bonne-maman]

You all are wearin me out with your luv. I actually have to go to work tomorrow, the horror. (I am a teacher, have been off for a month, working summer school 20 hrs weekly for 4 weeks in July) I must retire for the evening, but will be back tomorrow afternoon to see who held the rose, oops, here it is :rrose:, while I was away.

It is SUCH a lesbian thing to do to pass an object around a circle to take turns talking. I love the idea of a buncha Tmen in a circle doing a lesbian-type thing. Kisses on your stubbly, or not, cheeks.

[Nat]

I am not so into identity this week. I like people who are like poems because they move me. I am in love.

[Andrew, Jr.]

I'm a transman and I adore all people. There is not one group more or less that deserves less love than another group as I see it. In fact, I think that that is what we need more of is love. I just get tired of having to limit myself to one or another because of social norms.

As for dating, I only date lesbians who are femme. The more femme the better for me. It is a ying/yang approach to life and living simply. Life is just so short to be so limiting. I am with you Nat. This week is just not a week for id's either. Just too much going on here too. Shew.

Andrew

[bonne-maman]

I am not so into identity this week. I like people who are like poems because they move me. I am in love.

Hi Nat, Long time no see! I absolutely agree...this thread is a tiny chunk o love...

[bonne-maman]

I'm a transman and I adore all people. There is not one group more or less that deserves less love than another group as I see it. In fact, I think that that is what we need more of is love. I just get tired of having to limit myself to one or another because of social norms.

As for dating, I only date lesbians who are femme. The more femme the better for me. It is a ying/yang approach to life and living simply. Life is just so short to be so limiting. I am with you Nat. This week is just not a week for id's either. Just too much going on here too. Shew.

Andrew


of course Andrew, love belongs everywhere....

[AtLast]

I am going to use this thread as a kind of affirmational space.... come back and read it often. Especially when some stuff around these issues gets tough in other threads. I need to keep focused on all the good in all of the very good people here! Hear you, see you, know you... let your light in to help me through the rough spots.

Thank you for this thread!

[JustLovelyJenn]

Today my love is talking to a therapist about being trans for the first time. I wanted to stop and say how proud I am of hym for that. How brave I think all Trans folks are for doing that. Its a scary thing to admit and embrace that you are who you are, even if the world around you doesn't understand (and for hym, they never will). To look at the potential of loosing people in your life and having the courage to say "if they don't love me for me, I can live with out them."

I admire Transmen for their STRENGTH of character!!!

[bonne-maman]

I am going to use this thread as a kind of affirmational space.... come back and read it often. Especially when some stuff around these issues gets tough in other threads. I need to keep focused on all the good in all of the very good people here! Hear you, see you, know you... let your light in to help me through the rough spots.

Thank you for this thread!

Well, thanks to you at last, for the lovely compliment of this post.

[bonne-maman]

Today my love is talking to a therapist about being trans for the first time. I wanted to stop and say how proud I am of hym for that. How brave I think all Trans folks are for doing that. Its a scary thing to admit and embrace that you are who you are, even if the world around you doesn't understand (and for hym, they never will). To look at the potential of loosing people in your life and having the courage to say "if they don't love me for me, I can live with out them."

I admire Transmen for their STRENGTH of character!!!

You said it! Transguys are so strong. Good goin for your love! What a great day.