Star Wars v.s. Star Trek

[Rook]

I kept hearing for the longest time from different people
"Star Wars was the best!!"
"Star Trek Rulez!"

And then there's the subdivisions...

"The early 3 were better than the new Star Wars Pre-quels"

"Picard could kick Kirks ass with his arm tied behind his back !!...."

"Janeway was the Ultimate Feminist !!"

And then there's those that Live to cosplay {I won't touch that part}

I grew up in a "House Divided", My "sperm Donor" was a Trekker, I discovered years later that I could insult him with "trekkie"{don't ask...}
My mother's a die-hard Fan of Star Wars, she's slightly picky of the prequels, however, she claims they answer maybe 1 or 2 curiosities she had..
She thinks jar jar binks is beyond Stupid.

Me? I like 'em both...
Each have their pro's and Cons..
Although, I do have a preference {in star trek category} for Deep Space 9 + Enterprise {Enterprise delves into Lots of Vulcan subjects + DS9 has nifty "Culture" subject*My fave are Dominion/Changelings*}..
As for Star Wars, all of 'em were cool.
The Luke Skywalker/Leia thing kinda grossed me, but it was fixed {thankfully}..
And yes, it took me forever to grasp it all {closed captioning}
So, Which is Your Favorite??
Why?...

:sunglass:

[Kobi]

the original cast. grew up with them. Didnt care for the newer casts.

[Blade]

When I was a kid I remember Mom and I watching Star Trek every week and wouldn't miss it. Then it went off the air and in the late 70's came Star Wars. I had absolutely no interest in it. My best friend and her BF at the time went to see it every weekend as long as it played. I bet they saw it 10 or 20 times. I still have not see the Star Wars original or any of the sequels and I don't watch any Star Trek any more either.

[Gemme]

I like things about both. Tribbles and ewoks! :cheesy:

[Apocalipstic]

Dune.

Though, I love the outfits of the alien ladies Kirk romanced in the original Star Trek, if I must follow the rules :)

[sharkchomp]

The first Star Trek approached a lot of controvertial subjects. In fact, the first bi-racial kiss on TV took place on Star Trek. I loved the show. Phasers, replicators and the famous, "beam me up Scotty".

The first Star Wars was equally ground breaking but in a different way. No one had ever seen special effects as great as the first one. There was actually a great plot in the movie. I enjoyed the entire series.

I will admit, I kindly had a crush on Capt Janeway ;)

~~~shark~~~~~~~

[Rockinonahigh]

Star Treck rules..I hardly never missed a show,some charaters were better than others in there interpatation of who they played so each gets his/her due.

[Arwen]

I'm a both kinda of girl. Hey! I'm a Pisces...it comes naturally. lol

Original Star Trek and then my darling Jean Luc. Janeway was intriguing but she never captured my attention the way the others did. I got annoyed that a female captain had to have a romantic relationship with a crew member while the men didn't.

Love Star Wars.

Heck, I even liked the old Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers. heh

[dark_crystal]

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>Star Wars
>Star Trek

[Greyson]

My vote is for Star Trek, the original and Star Trek the Next Generation.

I do have very fond memories of viewing Star Wars a few times in the darkness of Grauman's Chinese Theater.

[dreadgeek]

I love each for different reasons.

Star Wars is just THE best space-opera (and here I am talking ONLY of the first trilogy, the second trilogy was a travesty and Lucas should be ashamed of himself). Star Wars has the benefit of a world that is not exactly pristine. I love the moral ambiguity around Darth Vader and that the Dark Side of the Force isn't necessarily *evil*--more misguided and blind to consequence but not evil in the simplistic sense you normally see in Hollywood films.

Star Trek, on the other hand, gave us a very pretty future--no greed, the only violence came from outside the Federation, etc. Of the two, Star Trek seems the more *achievable* future since, strictly speaking, all of the tech in Star Trek is theoretically possible (yes, even the transporter and the warp drive).

That said, I think that Star Wars had better aliens. Some of the aliens in Star Wars are *actually* alien while the Star Trek aliens weren't really alien. One thing I'd really like to see is a portrayal of aliens that are truly Other. I understand that, up until very recently, aliens had to be people in suits or makeup. Now with CGI we can start seeing truly *alien* aliens instead of bilaterally symmetrical aliens. Imagine, if you will, an alien built on a cephalopod (octopus or squid) body and you start to get an idea of what it is I'm hoping to see in future sci-fi.

Cheers
Aj
ps. may the mass*acceleration be with you. :)

[betenoire]

I'm firmly in camp Holy Trilogy, kids. Original Star Wars allll the way.

Although, I do have the hots for Data. I can't help it.

[Gentle Tiger]

Star Trek hands down! Star Wars was/is ok but Star Trek is my favorite!

[atomiczombie]

Original SW trilogy beats the original ST series hands down. However, the second SW trilogy pales compared to the original and next gen ST series.

[dreadgeek]

Original SW trilogy beats the original ST series hands down. However, the second SW trilogy pales compared to the original and next gen ST series.

I'd even be willing to give Lucas a mulligan on Episodes 1 - 3 given that episodes 4 -6 were SO good. But if he took the mulligan he'd have to do so on the condition of NO Jar-Jar Binks. None. Not even any member of his species! Oh and ditch the metachlorides.


Cheers
Aj

[MsDemeanor]

I've never seen, nor had any desire to see, a SW movie, so Star Trek it is!!

[Rook]

For quite awhile, I had no choice But to watch star trek {one of those fun-fun memories of my sperm donor, not!!}
He could never understand {or accept} why I had no clue what the show was going on about, however I did enjoy the Visuals, Uhura in particular....
Star Wars was the same, however, when Closed-Captioning became mainstream, That was the first thing I rented.
I loved the Bar/Promenade scenes of both star trek and star wars, whoopi goldberg was very cool, and actually Got me back into Star Trek...
My obsessions were Vulcan and Changeling, Anything to do with either one in depth had my Undivided Attentions...
Even the Books. :2butch:
My mother got me Obsessed with Ewoks though, I've stunned people with Details on Ewok society, Vulcans, Changelings, and sometimes Ferengi...:glasses:
I wasnt fond of Klingons..
I always felt it was a smack of Racism..
The storyline of Picard as a Borg also annoyed me...:angry:

As for "no metachlorians", you're stripping Star Wars of its very essence :blink:
There'd be no "Force", Dark or Jedi

Oh, and Tribbles Rawk !!!!
:happyjump:

[dreadgeek]

For quite awhile, I had no choice But to watch star trek {one of those fun-fun memories of my sperm donor, not!!}
He could never understand {or accept} why I had no clue what the show was going on about, however I did enjoy the Visuals, Uhura in particular....
Star Wars was the same, however, when Closed-Captioning became mainstream, That was the first thing I rented.
I loved the Bar/Promenade scenes of both star trek and star wars, whoopi goldberg was very cool, and actually Got me back into Star Trek...
My obsessions were Vulcan and Changeling, Anything to do with either one in depth had my Undivided Attentions...
Even the Books. :2butch:
My mother got me Obsessed with Ewoks though, I've stunned people with Details on Ewok society, Vulcans, Changelings, and sometimes Ferengi...:glasses:
I wasnt fond of Klingons..
I always felt it was a smack of Racism..
The storyline of Picard as a Borg also annoyed me...:angry:

As for "no metachlorians", you're stripping Star Wars of its very essence :blink:
There'd be no "Force", Dark or Jedi

Oh, and Tribbles Rawk !!!!
:happyjump:

We did just fine in the first three movies without any metachlorians. The Force was the Force. It had an effect on the weak-minded, those weren't the droids you were searching for and that was that. :)

As an aside, because I work around a bunch of geeks there are two phrases from the first movie we use constantly. The ubiquitous 'these aren't the droids you're looking for' and "but I wanted to go to Toschi station and pick up some power converters!" whenever an end-user wants something either ridiculous or technologically impossible. :)

Cheers
Aj
May the Mass*Acceleration be with you.

[Gemme]

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>Star Wars
>Star Trek

Spaceballs!!!!

I love the campiness of both of them and the parodies that they sparked.

[MsDemeanor]

"but I wanted to go to Toschi station and pick up some power converters!"
Power converters at a Toschi shoe store? :confused:

[EnderD_503]

Dune.

/thread

But yeah, in the whole Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate, Star Trek wins for me. Especially TNG, used to watch it all the time as a kid.

[Arwen]

If you really want to dig deep, an argument could be made that comparing Star Wars and Star Trek is truly comparing apples to grapes. They aren't even the same size.

Star Wars uses the Joseph Campbell myth cycle ala the Hero's journey over the first three movies. And, if you really examine that, the Hero's Journey for the full six movies could be said to be Darth Vader's journey. What do you think?

And Star Trek is much shorter bites. I'm not sure there is a Hero's Journey in those. Maybe with Voyager and Next Generation, but not in the original.

Just my .02 geeky worth.

[Nat]

I heart star trek

[betenoire]

Kov2G0GouBw

[atomiczombie]

I'd even be willing to give Lucas a mulligan on Episodes 1 - 3 given that episodes 4 -6 were SO good. But if he took the mulligan he'd have to do so on the condition of NO Jar-Jar Binks. None. Not even any member of his species! Oh and ditch the metachlorides.


Cheers
Aj

OMG yes I hated Jar Jar. Such a racist caricature. The metachlorides were lame too. And count Dooku? Are you kidding me?? Oy.

[Rook]

Wait..
Allow me to clarify..
I'm not asking which is better, I'm asking which is Your favorite...

Believe me, years of listening about the Glories of each has me jaded..lol

[BullDog]

Star Trek- the original. I grew up on it. I wasn't a hard core fan, but it's definitely part of my childhood. Hell, I learned to drink coffee as a kid watching that show.

Star Wars- I saw the first one. I don't dislike it, but never saw the big deal over it. I may have been too distracted by Carrie Fisher's hair to notice.

[Kobi]

If you really want to dig deep, an argument could be made that comparing Star Wars and Star Trek is truly comparing apples to grapes. They aren't even the same size.

Star Wars uses the Joseph Campbell myth cycle ala the Hero's journey over the first three movies. And, if you really examine that, the Hero's Journey for the full six movies could be said to be Darth Vader's journey. What do you think?

And Star Trek is much shorter bites. I'm not sure there is a Hero's Journey in those. Maybe with Voyager and Next Generation, but not in the original.

Just my .02 geeky worth.

OMG someone else who knows about Joseph Campbell and myths!

I agree and have seen George Lucas speak to the mythology used in Star Wars which was quite fascinating.

I still prefer the original Star Trek tho....especially the tribles(?) episodes.

[NJFemmie]

Star Trek, baby!

Spock rules, jabberwockies drool....

... or something like that.... *shrug*

[Scota_Parisi]

Delving into my uber sci-fi side here. Grew up with Star Trek because it was on TV in the afternoons. Homework was done, we could watch it.

I remember being at a party watching Star Trek II - "The Wrath of Khan". I cried and cried when Spock died. "I have been... and always shall be... your friend. Live long... and prosper." And then they did this amazing thing and he returned to life in Star Trek III.

Which is why I was furious at this new Star Trek. They took out Vulcan. Vulcan??? Really???? And didn't bring it back. They can travel back in time for humpback whales but nooOOOOOOOoooo. Save Vulcan? I left the theater disgusted. LOL.... so yep I'm a Trekker.

Oh, maybe next movie. I hope. *sigh*

On the flipside, I do like Star Wars. Used to game in Star Wars Galaxies and it was a real great way to learn more about the characters and the movies.

[kannon]

I know Blade Runner isn't an option but it's the BEST sci-fi movie, ever.

[kannon]

If I had to pick between the two, I'd pick Star Wars.

I'm full of useless info.

George Lucas based the original characters on Carl Jung's archetypes.

[NJFemmie]

My Mother used to watch Star Trek (she apparently had a crush on Kirk *winky winky smooch smooch*) late at night when she'd come home from work - and I used to watch it with her. Thanks to her, I became a huge fan. She passed away when I was 14 -- so she wasn't alive to see the Star Trek movies (which I know she would have LOVED). Anyway, I cried when Spock died, but I think I cried for my mother when Kirk died. It was the end of an era. :(

I've seen every movie - even the latest one. I plan on getting every movie on DVD. :)

Re: Star Wars - I tried to get into it but couldn't. It isn't the same. I've seen the movies, but ehhh ...

[Rook]

I agree,
Blade Runner Rawks...I wanna buy the Directors Cut...

The "new" Star Trek, yeah...it did piss me off too...
I mean, c'mon, our "First Contact" was with Vulcan damnit ...
They were scouting, saw a signal, otherwise they'd keep flyin off in their study, waving off our sorry lil asses as too primitive to bother with...
:seeingstars:

[Ebon]

I like them both for different reasons (but I like Firefly better than both of them).

[Arwen]

I agree,
Blade Runner Rawks...I wanna buy the Directors Cut...

The "new" Star Trek, yeah...it did piss me off too...
I mean, c'mon, our "First Contact" was with Vulcan damnit ...
They were scouting, saw a signal, otherwise they'd keep flyin off in their study, waving off our sorry lil asses as too primitive to bother with...
:seeingstars:

Well this new Trek was way past first contact. And I really loved the shift in timeline/storyline. It gives the next movies so many places to go. The Spock/Uhura loveline? Yummmmmmy! More please! And maybe this Kirk won't be such a horny dog. My biggest complaint was the age of Scotty. His character came in too young for me.

Still, I'm anxiously awaiting the next Star Trek movie. There are more frontiers where we can boldly go.:moonstars:

[Sparkle]

admittedly i am sans a strong opinion on this subject; but one of my *bests* works for lucas films and posted this... i thought it was cute:

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[Darth Denkay]

I think my preference is obvious...