Welcome AZ Butches, Femmes, Trans

[friskyfemme]

Hi to all my AZ friends current and future, :winky:
I live in the Phoenix area. I am wanting to establish one or more social groups for us. If you would like to join, just post. ;),:4femme:

[apretty]

Friskyfemme, there are a few of us in the Phoenix area :) welcome to the BFP.

Hi to all my AZ friends current and future, :winky:
I live in the Phoenix area. I am wanting to establish one or more social groups for us. If you would like to join, just post. ;),:4femme:

[friskyfemme]

Hi Pretty,

I believe we met over dinner a year or two ago. How are things going for you? Would like to get a social group going again...Everyone kinda has fizzled away from B-F.


:chocolate:

[apretty]

Hi Pretty,

I believe we met over dinner a year or two ago. How are things going for you? Would like to get a social group going again...Everyone kinda has fizzled away from B-F.


:chocolate:

i remember that dinner! hello, things are wonderful--how are you? a social group would be nice, let us know (EZ Tiger is my personal assistant)!
(can you believe that great restaurant closed after we all had an amazing dinner? such a loss.)

[newchancefl]

i remember that dinner! hello, things are wonderful--how are you? a social group would be nice, let us know (EZ Tiger is my personal assistant)!
(can you believe that great restaurant closed after we all had an amazing dinner? such a loss.)

just wanted to say hi

[newchancefl]

Hi to all my AZ friends current and future, :winky:
I live in the Phoenix area. I am wanting to establish one or more social groups for us. If you would like to join, just post. ;),:4femme:

hello is anyone there

[newchancefl]

well i guess not ,, just looking for a chat room for butch femme and tranny

[squirrell]

:loveletter:hello is anyone there

My dear Newchancefl.

This is a daring letter, its your lost valentine.............
We spent time in the honey pot.........

Wished you would be mine.

Yours

Squirrells
xxxxxxxxx

[friskyfemme]

Good Morning AZ friends...
Happy to see Spring break thru for us...time to get out and get together!
Went to Matasuri last weekend. It was a blast. Am on mission to visit every museum in Phoenix this year. Anyone wanta go?

[friskyfemme]

Hi Phoenix Folks,

I will be going to Phoenix Pride. How about you? Let's get together! K.

[Lillie]

Hi phx!..I see there aren't to many of us her from AZ..or willing to admit it..

Well Im in the northwest valley..so hi from way the hell over here! lol

Any of you going to pride this weekend? My parnter and I are and its gonna be hot as hell :devil::devil: 92..ok well maybe not hell..but at least the road leading up to it..

I want to listen to the :rockband: and :girleating: and well :tanning:..so enjoy your weekend!

:cheer: Lillie:cheer:

[friskyfemme]

Hi Lillie,
I am going to Pride Sat even though my friends have backed out! I have only been once before a couple of years ago. Maybe we can meet up.

[*Magic_and_Silk*]

I am in Show Low, AZ. Just thought I would stop by and say 'hello'.

[friskyfemme]

I am in Show Low, AZ. Just thought I would stop by and say 'hello'.
Welcome Majic and Silk,

Nice to meet you. Do you ever travel down to the Valley? I use to live east of Snowflake.

I haven't been up your way in awhile. It's looks the your weather has been crazy.

[friskyfemme]

Hi phx!..I see there aren't to many of us her from AZ..or willing to admit it..

Well Im in the northwest valley..so hi from way the hell over here! lol

Any of you going to pride this weekend? My parnter and I are and its gonna be hot as hell :devil::devil: 92..ok well maybe not hell..but at least the road leading up to it..

I want to listen to the :rockband: and :girleating: and well :tanning:..so enjoy your weekend!

:cheer: Lillie:cheer:
Hey Lilly,

I did make it out to pride on Sat with a friend. Sorry we didn't get to hook up but maybe someday soon :)

[*Magic_and_Silk*]

Welcome Majic and Silk,

Nice to meet you. Do you ever travel down to the Valley? I use to live east of Snowflake.

I haven't been up your way in awhile. It's looks the your weather has been crazy.


Nice to meet you, too!
I rarely get to the valley. Right now, unfortunately, I don't have a vehicle. The weather HAS been crazy. Way too cold for this time of year. But, it is so beautiful up here!!

[friskyfemme]

How is everyone doing in AZ?

[paposeco]

How is everyone doing in AZ?

Hello, I'm in tucson..it's been awhile since I've been to phnx,
last time I was there was at a awesome 'pool party'..met a lot of nice folks...and the femmes were gorgeous ;)

[friskyfemme]

Hello, I'm in tucson..it's been awhile since I've been to phnx,
last time I was there was at a awesome 'pool party'..met a lot of nice folks...and the femmes were gorgeous ;)
Nice to meet you paposeco.

I have actually been to Tucson at couple of times in the past year. Let me know when you are coming up. We can all meet up.

[squirrell]

Newchancefl.

Looking for you ...........................

Remember the valentines you sent to me? And Bear hug?
Live in London, near to your Aunt in Chelsea.
Please get back to me

xxx

[paposeco]

Nice to meet you paposeco.

I have actually been to Tucson at couple of times in the past year. Let me know when you are coming up. We can all meet up.

Dunno when next I'll be up your way, but when the time comes I'll be sure to let you know. Maybe we could have a group of us meet up some time, that would be nice.

[asphaltcowboi]

hi all i live part time in az (weat of phoenix) and part time on cody wyo. but im more in az or have been.. just a new user name sence ive been in wyo.

[friskyfemme]

hi all i live part time in az (weat of phoenix) and part time on cody wyo. but im more in az or have been.. just a new user name sence ive been in wyo.
Hi Cody,

Where west of Phoenix do you stay? Further than Buckeye? When you be in town next? Love to have a get together with you, Magic, paposeco, Lillie, and anyone else that wants to join. Lets Party!

[JoSchmooze]

I thought I was the only one down here in Tucson....
I have been living here for almost 15 years but this summer
the heat has really gotten to me....
When is it evah gonna rain??

~Jo.
:seeingstars::seeingstars::seeingstars:

[lipstixgal]

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"]I'm thinking about relocating to Phoenix, AZ after school is over which is in Oct 2010. Any good gay friendly areas to live in?? Any clubs for women?? Would love to know more about the weather and anything else pertinent to Phoenix!!

[asphaltcowboi]

Hi Cody,

Where west of Phoenix do you stay? Further than Buckeye? When you be in town next? Love to have a get together with you, Magic, paposeco, Lillie, and anyone else that wants to join. Lets Party!
lmao why did you say buckeye? thats where i live most the time i go to cody wyo to take care of a sick family member.. i was thinking of moving perm to wyo.. but i am starting to meet new friends here... heeeeel ya im ready to party!

[friskyfemme]

lmao why did you say buckeye? thats where i live most the time i go to cody wyo to take care of a sick family member.. i was thinking of moving perm to wyo.. but i am starting to meet new friends here... heeeeel ya im ready to party!
I know peeps in Buckeye. It's west of me...lol. Phoenix ... AZ for that matter flys under the gaydar. It's difficult to meet others outside the bars.

[asphaltcowboi]

I know peeps in Buckeye. It's west of me...lol. Phoenix ... AZ for that matter flys under the gaydar. It's difficult to meet others outside the bars.


there are other people umm gay/les/tg in buckeye?
no way?

[QueenofSmirks]

If all goes well, I'll be relocating to Phoenix in 8 weeks! I'm just waiting for transfer paperwork from my company and then it's a go! Looking forward to meeting and getting to know other BFPers in the area! :)

[friskyfemme]

If all goes well, I'll be relocating to Phoenix in 8 weeks! I'm just waiting for transfer paperwork from my company and then it's a go! Looking forward to meeting and getting to know other BFPers in the area! :)


Hi Stephanie,

Looking forward to meeting you. I smell a party theme! Whatcha say AZers?

[friskyfemme]

there are other people umm gay/les/tg in buckeye?
no way?
Yeppers 'tis true... Buckeye!

[friskyfemme]

Yeppers 'tis true... Buckeye!
Hey Cody,

I was thinkin about checkin out the 1st Monday Social tomorrow...You wanta meet up?

[asphaltcowboi]

Hey Cody,

I was thinkin about checkin out the 1st Monday Social tomorrow...You wanta meet up?
just now read this... i have dental apt today.. pre oral surg apt... ugh.
what is and where is the monday social?
oh an i forgot about all the new houses they built up by the interstate.. im in beautiful down twon buckeye!!! lol!

[friskyfemme]

just now read this... i have dental apt today.. pre oral surg apt... ugh.
what is and where is the monday social?
oh an i forgot about all the new houses they built up by the interstate.. im in beautiful down twon buckeye!!! lol!
Hi Cody,

Sorry we missed each other. The social hour was at Ticoz at 7th and Camelback Rd.,
Phoenix. This was the 1st one. It is gonna be 1st Monday of each month 6:30pm.

So maybe you can make the next on in August. It's Sponsored by Phoenix Pride Committee. We can probably meet up before that if you would like.

[lipstixgal]

After school is finished thinking about relocating to Phoenix, Az!! Can anyone suggest and area to live in that is gay friendly?? I have looked into apartments already, they are beautiful and all have a swimming pool too so just wondering where I should focus on that would be helpful.

Also looking to meet other BFP people in the area.

Gail

[paposeco]

I thought I was the only one down here in Tucson....
I have been living here for almost 15 years but this summer
the heat has really gotten to me....
When is it evah gonna rain??

~Jo.
:seeingstars::seeingstars::seeingstars:

whatever gave you the idea that you were the only one here in Tucson?? just curious cause there's a bunch of us here. Yeah, I'd like to know when the Monsoon is going to finally arrive..it seems like it's getting closer though. BTW Jo, ever been to "Hawl at the Moon", here in town? or any of the gay clubs for that matter?

[paposeco]

Hi Stephanie,

Looking forward to meeting you. I smell a party theme! Whatcha say AZers?

I say....lets do this.:hangloose:

[asphaltcowboi]

After school is finished thinking about relocating to Phoenix, Az!! Can anyone suggest and area to live in that is gay friendly?? I have looked into apartments already, they are beautiful and all have a swimming pool too so just wondering where I should focus on that would be helpful.

Also looking to meet other BFP people in the area.

Gail

Hi Gail!
all i can say is just about all the Phoenix area is gay friendly. actually i would say all of Az. as far as living here i really like the NW part of Phoenix/Glendale. i lived there for years. i wouldnt sugest anything farther west of Avondale. i moved here from Calif. and have found this whole state to be friendly, no mater who you are. Good luvk and let us know where /when you land here! as far as the weather the farther north you get the cooler it will be. we have a few weeks of very hot weather, durning that time everyone stays in the a/c or the pool! them we have the monsoons for a few weeks they are not usually bad. 15 20 min wind and rain storms that are actually refreshing. gays bars? there are several we even have one that is a womans bar that is mostly country with 2 step and line dance classes a couple times a week. late in the eves they are very well rounded with the music.

[QueenofSmirks]

I say....lets do this.:hangloose:

Absolutely!! My official start date is Sept 7 - I should arrive around Sept 5. Hope to have an apartment by the 7th, and I'm pretty sure I won't have any problem getting one - the only problem I'll have is figuring out which one to pick! LOL This isn't the first time I'm moving across the country, so I've done this before, a few times actually. I'm really excited though!!

By any chance, does anyone on the thread play poker??? I'm a Texas Hold'em player, so I'm thrilled that there are casinos and card rooms nearby! I love Atlantic City, but it's a 2-hour drive from where I live now, so it'll be great to not have to drive that far!

I'll be around for several weeks, but wil be offline the week I'm traveling. Let's do plan something though!! Maybe we can swap contact info offlist.

Stay cool :)

[lipstixgal]

Thanks Cody can't wait until school finishes out which will be in Sept then in Oct I take my certification test for MA's then its a go for sure. LOOKING forward to meeting any BFPers that live in the area! The weather sounds great at least there will be no snow that's a plus in my book!!

[apretty]

I wouldn't say that this state is friendly to/for anyone other than white, middle-aged and hopefully male, straight-acting, republican mormons without a lot of university education and zero ecological or political concern.

There are a few less-hateful places in central phoenix (and definitely Tucson!) but nowhere welcoming if you're a POC.

Most of the gays that I've come across are content with a "lifestyle" that isn't officially recognized, or that is 'downlow' and are not out or just out to close friends or other gays in the community. (That I want and think everyone is deserving of human rights, like *yesterday* has/does put more than a few people off--but I am not *from* here. ;) )

The phx GLBTIQ center is a tiny store front in a strip mall. The state just implemented a law that bans ethnic studies and also *requires* the police to stop and question anyone they suspect to be in arizona "illegally" --without any clear guidelines as how to enforce this law without 'racial profiling'. ...And today it's 115 degrees.

Where are you moving *from*?

[lipstixgal]

I wouldn't say that this state is friendly to/for anyone other than white, middle-aged and hopefully male, straight-acting, republican mormons without a lot of university education and zero ecological or political concern.

There are a few less-hateful places in central phoenix (and definitely Tucson!) but nowhere welcoming if you're a POC.

Most of the gays that I've come across are content with a "lifestyle" that isn't officially recognized, or that is 'downlow' and are not out or just out to close friends or other gays in the community. (That I want and think everyone is deserving of human rights, like *yesterday* has/does put more than a few people off--but I am not *from* here. ;) )

The phx GLBTIQ center is a tiny store front in a strip mall. The state just implemented a law that bans ethnic studies and also *requires* the police to stop and question anyone they suspect to be in arizona "illegally" --without any clear guidelines as how to enforce this law without 'racial profiling'. ...And today it's 115 degrees.

Where are you moving *from*?

Well with that said I'm moving from NJ which is not too gay friendly either its all in NYC which is time consuming and costs money to go into all the time!! but the Mormon thing scares a bit. That is just a cult in my minds eye!! I did research on that religion and yeah its a cult. Also I'm Jewish and gay!! I'm really going for the weather because its warm and don't want to winter anymore!!

[friskyfemme]

Well with that said I'm moving from NJ which is not too gay friendly either its all in NYC which is time consuming and costs money to go into all the time!! but the Mormon thing scares a bit. That is just a cult in my minds eye!! I did research on that religion and yeah its a cult. Also I'm Jewish and gay!! I'm really going for the weather because its warm and don't want to winter anymore!!
I was concerned with the Mormon influence before I moved to AZ. I really met it 'head on' when I live in White Mountains region and Prescott area. Yes I would agree as apretty stated there is more a 'down low' community in the Phoenix area. As far as women's club there is only one identified as in the Phoenix area such in the Phoenix.

But to AZ's credit, more so here in other states, I've lived there is a large mixed gay crowd in most bars and hetro/gay places. However, I am not much for bars as a place for meeting people.

AZ has elected and appointed officals that are outwardly gay.

[lipstixgal]

I was concerned with the Mormon influence before I moved to AZ. I really met it 'head on' when I live in White Mountains region and Prescott area. Yes I would agree as apretty stated there is more a 'down low' community in the Phoenix area. As far as women's club there is only one identified as in the Phoenix area such in the Phoenix.

But to AZ's credit, more so here in other states, I've lived there is a large mixed gay crowd in most bars and hetro/gay places. However, I am not much for bars as a place for meeting people.

AZ has elected and appointed officals that are outwardly gay.

Thanks for the input but I think that there has to be non-Mormon communities around. I know for a fact that there are Jews in the area. North Central Phoenix is very Jewish but yeah I hear you on the Mormon thing, its really scary!! The LDS was behind the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage in that state. The Mormons are very anti-gay, anti-everything!! But I will take that in mind before the final decision is to be made!!

[lipstixgal]

Any butch-femme happenings going on in PHoenix these days, still thinking about relocating to that state so I don't have tot deal with the traffic and winter. NJ is just too damn crowded for me!! I want some place where you can really drive your car and not get a headache in the process. It took me 45 minutes to get a lamb kebob platter from Whole Foods in Paramus, NJ which is only about 5 miles away!!

[QueenofSmirks]

Thanks for the input but I think that there has to be non-Mormon communities around. I know for a fact that there are Jews in the area. North Central Phoenix is very Jewish but yeah I hear you on the Mormon thing, its really scary!! The LDS was behind the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage in that state. The Mormons are very anti-gay, anti-everything!! But I will take that in mind before the final decision is to be made!!

I'm not trying to start a holy war - and for the record, I'm atheist, so it isn't a personal religious thing, but I have to say, the comment above about Mormons being "very anti-gay, anti-everything", and the "mormon thing" being "really scary"........ really?

I personally know several mormons, a couple of them are even gay. They aren't anti-gay or scary.

Frankly, I'm appalled at blanket statements targeting any group, religious or otherwise, especially on a site like this where a very "targeted" group of people come together for socializing, entertainment and/or support.

I personally don't give a crap what the religious make-up is in a community. I've lived all over, I've conducted business all over, with and amongst a variety of people. Why would I care what a stranger's religious beliefs are? What does that really have to do with me?

I lived in Colorado for most of my life - the first state to put anti-gay legislation to a vote (in 1994?), sponsored by the Christian group Focus On The Family. Do I support right-wing Christian beliefs and politics? No. Did I leave Colorado because of it? No.

I just can't imagine shunning a place to live because it has a predominant religious group.

[friskyfemme]

I'm not trying to start a holy war - and for the record, I'm atheist, so it isn't a personal religious thing, but I have to say, the comment above about Mormons being "very anti-gay, anti-everything", and the "mormon thing" being "really scary"........ really?

I personally know several mormons, a couple of them are even gay. They aren't anti-gay or scary.

Frankly, I'm appalled at blanket statements targeting any group, religious or otherwise, especially on a site like this where a very "targeted" group of people come together for socializing, entertainment and/or support.

I personally don't give a crap what the religious make-up is in a community. I've lived all over, I've conducted business all over, with and amongst a variety of people. Why would I care what a stranger's religious beliefs are? What does that really have to do with me?

I lived in Colorado for most of my life - the first state to put anti-gay legislation to a vote (in 1994?), sponsored by the Christian group Focus On The Family. Do I support right-wing Christian beliefs and politics? No. Did I leave Colorado because of it? No.

I just can't imagine shunning a place to live because it has a predominant religious group.
QoS

I was not agreeing with 'apretty' about the 'anti' statements she made about the Mormons. My experience with Mormon saturated areas in Central AZ, has more to do with the practices of female suppression and refusing jobs to persons who were not Mormon. I have not met with that attitude in Phoenix or west valley. But then again, if you moved into a Quaker or Amish community you would most likely meet the same thing. (ok I may be chewing my toes now). On the contrary, my neighbor who is also Hispanic and Mormon was the first to greet me to the neighborhood when I moved in my house 2yrs ago. My friends that are RLDS donot hold the same interpretation of the beliefs as do LDS. I donot believe in putting people including gays in boxes. I have come to understand, people acquire wisdom through environment, experience and dimension of their lives.

I apologize if gave any other impression.

[asphaltcowboi]

i disagree with this but only from my personal expierances.. i moved here from the san francisco bay area and was pleasantly suprised how friendly people were to me.. from the biker bars to strangers in the park. if i didnt push my bizz on them they didnt push theres on my and were very friendly. i never try to push my lifestyle-religon- or morals on anyone and if im treated with the same respect i consider it a grat day. no way would i expect a new aquintance to fully understand where ive been or what makes me who i am.

I wouldn't say that this state is friendly to/for anyone other than white, middle-aged and hopefully male, straight-acting, republican mormons without a lot of university education and zero ecological or political concern.

There are a few less-hateful places in central phoenix (and definitely Tucson!) but nowhere welcoming if you're a POC.

Most of the gays that I've come across are content with a "lifestyle" that isn't officially recognized, or that is 'downlow' and are not out or just out to close friends or other gays in the community. (That I want and think everyone is deserving of human rights, like *yesterday* has/does put more than a few people off--but I am not *from* here. ;) )

The phx GLBTIQ center is a tiny store front in a strip mall. The state just implemented a law that bans ethnic studies and also *requires* the police to stop and question anyone they suspect to be in arizona "illegally" --without any clear guidelines as how to enforce this law without 'racial profiling'. ...And today it's 115 degrees.

Where are you moving *from*?

[apretty]

to clarify, i didn't make any "anti" statements about mormons.

to be clear, i could detail my disdain for mormons in about 40 different ways (from their political involvement to the high mormon gay teen suicide/homeless stats) it's just that no one was asking my take religion, in this particular thread.

i did summarize my arizona experience.


Queenofsmirks-- You should see Prop 8: The mormon proposition --It played here in a single theatre for all of a week.



QoS

I was not agreeing with 'apretty' about the 'anti' statements she made about the Mormons. My experience with Mormon saturated areas in Central AZ, has more to do with the practices of female suppression and refusing jobs to persons who were not Mormon. I have not met with that attitude in Phoenix or west valley. But then again, if you moved into a Quaker or Amish community you would most likely meet the same thing. (ok I may be chewing my toes now). On the contrary, my neighbor who is also Hispanic and Mormon was the first to greet me to the neighborhood when I moved in my house 2yrs ago. My friends that are RLDS donot hold the same interpretation of the beliefs as do LDS. I donot believe in putting people including gays in boxes. I have come to understand, people acquire wisdom through environment, experience and dimension of their lives.

I apologize if gave any other impression.

[QueenofSmirks]

QoS

I was not agreeing with 'apretty' about the 'anti' statements she made about the Mormons. ...

I apologize if gave any other impression.


Nothing in your post made me raise an eyebrow, no worries.

I quoted the post that I found offensive (within my previous post).

[QueenofSmirks]

to clarify, i didn't make any "anti" statements about mormons.

to be clear, i could detail my disdain for mormons in about 40 different ways (from their political involvement to the high mormon gay teen suicide/homeless stats) it's just that no one was asking my take religion, in this particular thread.

i did summarize my arizona experience.


Queenofsmirks-- You should see Prop 8: The mormon proposition --It played here in a single theatre for all of a week.

Please understand, I'm not here to change anyone's view of the Mormon religion, or any religion for that matter. I'm sure 'Prop 8' outlines the very scum of the Mormon religion but I don't need to see it to know that religious zealots of ALL religions get up to no good in the name of their religious beliefs. As an aside, I'm not stranger to the Mormon religion - I actively boycotted Utah for its political stance on many issues, but none of this is really the point of my previous post.

The point I tried to make earlier is that not *all people* of one religion can be classified as this or that. I personally have an extreme disdain for the Catholic religion, but I think if I posted "All Catholics are pedophiles" it might seem a bit ignorant.

As an aside, a good point was made by FriskyFemme, (which I think I started to make in my own post but then got sidetracked), and that is that quality of life is important no matter where you live. If you live in an area that is unsafe or discriminatory toward you, then you certainly need to re-examine your surroundings.

As far as being discriminated against because of being female and not belonging to the predominant religion - I totally get it because I was treated the same way by some of the Jews in the neighborhood when I lived in Queens. Lucky for me I didn't have to rely upon them for work, or frankly, for anything else. I just took my business elsewhere, but that was easy enough to do given the area I lived in.

Bottom line - there are zealots in every religion, but I personally can't think of a single religion where every member can be completely defined by its values.

[QueenofSmirks]

And one more thing -- even though the thread has taken another direction (for these last few posts), I am really enjoying reading the responses, even though we may not all agree.

[Queerasfck]

i disagree with this but only from my personal expierances.. i moved here from the san francisco bay area and was pleasantly suprised how friendly people were to me.. from the biker bars to strangers in the park. if i didnt push my bizz on them they didnt push theres on my and were very friendly. i never try to push my lifestyle-religon- or morals on anyone and if im treated with the same respect i consider it a grat day. no way would i expect a new aquintance to fully understand where ive been or what makes me who i am.

Hello Cody,

I'm not really sure what you mean about pushing your bizz, lifestyle, religion or morals on people. It sounds like you've had good experiences here in Arizona.

I guess for me it just depends on how far I want to take my head out of the sand. If I want to live and work in a place where I've seen strangers and co-workers openly mock gay people I'd stay in Phoenix. If I want to live in a place where I can be out and about all day long and rarely see a POC except in the poorest of neighborhoods or working out in a field I'd stay in Phoenix. If I want to stay in a place where my gf's 10 year old niece has a teacher who says that the most of the native kids are "bad" I'd stay here in Phoenix. If I want to stay in a place where in January the Governor declared a "day of prayer for the state budget" instead of actually doing her job, I'd stay in Arizona. And if I want to live in place that has the law in place to pull people over based on skin color I'd stay in Arizona. I've lived in four states since I've been an adult and honestly I've never lived in a place where hate is so VISIBLE and most people seem SO OKAY with it.

Arizona has beautiful sunsets and some wonderous and scenic places. It also has a low cost of living which in these tough times is rare.

So inconclusion Cody, if by you saying "no way would i expect a new aquintance to fully understand where ive been or what makes me who i am" I would agree. And please, correct me if I'm wrong here, you are saying that in AZ you perceive people being of tolerant of you. For me tolerance does not equal acceptance though. I've lived in AZ for nine months and I don't see a lot of acceptance of gays or people of color here. It really came down to that for my gf and I. We choose not to live here because of that.

[asphaltcowboi]

Hello Cody,

I'm not really sure what you mean about pushing your bizz, lifestyle, religion or morals on people. It sounds like you've had good experiences here in Arizona.

I guess for me it just depends on how far I want to take my head out of the sand. If I want to live and work in a place where I've seen strangers and co-workers openly mock gay people I'd stay in Phoenix. If I want to live in a place where I can be out and about all day long and rarely see a POC except in the poorest of neighborhoods or working out in a field I'd stay in Phoenix. If I want to stay in a place where my gf's 10 year old niece has a teacher who says that the most of the native kids are "bad" I'd stay here in Phoenix. If I want to stay in a place where in January the Governor declared a "day of prayer for the state budget" instead of actually doing her job, I'd stay in Arizona. And if I want to live in place that has the law in place to pull people over based on skin color I'd stay in Arizona. I've lived in four states since I've been an adult and honestly I've never lived in a place where hate is so VISIBLE and most people seem SO OKAY with it.

Arizona has beautiful sunsets and some wonderous and scenic places. It also has a low cost of living which in these tough times is rare.

So inconclusion Cody, if by you saying "no way would i expect a new aquintance to fully understand where ive been or what makes me who i am" I would agree. And please, correct me if I'm wrong here, you are saying that in AZ you perceive people being of tolerant of you. For me tolerance does not equal acceptance though. I've lived in AZ for nine months and I don't see a lot of acceptance of gays or people of color here. It really came down to that for my gf and I. We choose not to live here because of that.

well all i can say is i dont have kids in the school system but i did work the first three years i lived here i was fairly lucky with the work i found other then a couple places that were way under paid due to the alility to hire cheap labor in this state. i am retired now and have ssdi an a full pension from a union job in calif.. the one thing i do not like about this state is that it is a right to work state and i strongly believe in the unions.
i am out 24/7 where ever i go and have had no problems here. i have been in what were suposed to be openly gay state and have been beat, knived shot at and yelled at from car windows just for my appearance. being very much male id ed.. with my driver lisence showing my true name that is very girly my trouble usually will start at that point when i have to show id.. but i have never thought or even tried to pull of the male roll and im sure people are not just always assuming im male... all i can say is that i have never encountered the same problems like i have in san francisco, chiago, bronx, portland.= or other larger citys i have lived in or worked in. but then i also got along well in oklahoma city and tulsa. people have the right to live where ever they want.
as far as what i mean by pushing my bizz on others.. it was meant as i do not go into a straight bar and make out with my girl friend.... i dont do that in public ever not matter where im at. but i do introduce my date or g/f as such i dont hide it but i dont push it either.. introduction and let it be. if someone is allowed to act an ass i let them unless i have femme company then i simply take myself and her elsewhere. am i afraid .. no way at 5'10 225 lbs mostly muscel and have obviously walked alot of roads people dont generaly fuck with me. if i am missing you point please excuse me .. grrr i have been taking pain killers for dental work.. but i think im responding correctly. i also believe people have the right to there opinions.. all i can say when i hear people complain about where they live then move! for me i love it here.. all except the "to hot to even ride days"
i may have been very lucky in my employment one of my employers was a trucking company that had two tg- mtf's driving for them and had no problem with them wearinf there female id to any company funtions or anywhere else they were not treated any diffrently then anyone else.. yes some of the other drivers disc'd them but only under there breath. if they want to continue work there they had to keep it to themselfs. and this is one of the largest companys in az. every state is going to have its good and bad just like every employer is going to have its workers and its slackers. it all part of life and being able to accept other for who they are with out judgement. yes az has a problem with illeagles and the crime that is brought from it. but they are trying to find ways to deal with it. i dont alway agree with the way the state handles it but sometimes i do. i am not at that level politicly and i am glad those decisions are not made my just one person but made by votes and majority feelings of the people that live here. do i agree maybe,, do i disagree maybe. some yes and some no. i do vote and that is my part of the job.. am i going to toss fits because things are not how i want them no i will either learn to live with majority, keep my mouth shut or leave.

[Queerasfck]

well all i can say is i dont have kids in the school system but i did work the first three years i lived here i was fairly lucky with the work i found other then a couple places that were way under paid due to the alility to hire cheap labor in this state. i am retired now and have ssdi an a full pension from a union job in calif.. the one thing i do not like about this state is that it is a right to work state and i strongly believe in the unions.
i am out 24/7 where ever i go and have had no problems here. i have been in what were suposed to be openly gay state and have been beat, knived shot at and yelled at from car windows just for my appearance. being very much male id ed.. with my driver lisence showing my true name that is very girly my trouble usually will start at that point when i have to show id.. but i have never thought or even tried to pull of the male roll and im sure people are not just always assuming im male... all i can say is that i have never encountered the same problems like i have in san francisco, chiago, bronx, portland.= or other larger citys i have lived in or worked in. but then i also got along well in oklahoma city and tulsa. people have the right to live where ever they want.
as far as what i mean by pushing my bizz on others.. it was meant as i do not go into a straight bar and make out with my girl friend.... i dont do that in public ever not matter where im at. but i do introduce my date or g/f as such i dont hide it but i dont push it either.. introduction and let it be. if someone is allowed to act an ass i let them unless i have femme company then i simply take myself and her elsewhere. am i afraid .. no way at 5'10 225 lbs mostly muscel and have obviously walked alot of roads people dont generaly fuck with me. if i am missing you point please excuse me .. grrr i have been taking pain killers for dental work.. but i think im responding correctly. i also believe people have the right to there opinions.. all i can say when i hear people complain about where they live then move! for me i love it here.. all except the "to hot to even ride days"
i may have been very lucky in my employment one of my employers was a trucking company that had two tg- mtf's driving for them and had no problem with them wearinf there female id to any company funtions or anywhere else they were not treated any diffrently then anyone else.. yes some of the other drivers disc'd them but only under there breath. if they want to continue work there they had to keep it to themselfs. and this is one of the largest companys in az. every state is going to have its good and bad just like every employer is going to have its workers and its slackers. it all part of life and being able to accept other for who they are with out judgement. yes az has a problem with illeagles and the crime that is brought from it. but they are trying to find ways to deal with it. i dont alway agree with the way the state handles it but sometimes i do. i am not at that level politicly and i am glad those decisions are not made my just one person but made by votes and majority feelings of the people that live here. do i agree maybe,, do i disagree maybe. some yes and some no. i do vote and that is my part of the job.. am i going to toss fits because things are not how i want them no i will either learn to live with majority, keep my mouth shut or leave.

Thanks for responding Cody, I appreciate you taking the time even though we don't agree.

[friskyfemme]

EzeeTiger and pretty,

Have a safe trip. Much happinees in your new beginning. May the winds be behind you and the sun kiss our faces.

[apretty]

EzeeTiger and pretty,

Have a safe trip. Much happinees in your new beginning. May the winds be behind you and the sun kiss our faces.

thanks very much!!!

(if only everything would FIT in our relo-cubes)

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[Soon]

Judge Blocks Arizona Law That Would Eliminate Domestic Partner Benefits For Gay State Workers (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/24/judge-blocks-arizona-law-gay-rights_n_658163.html)

[asphaltcowboi]

Judge Blocks Arizona Law That Would Eliminate Domestic Partner Benefits For Gay State Workers (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/24/judge-blocks-arizona-law-gay-rights_n_658163.html)
un blievable... and i think last summer they just opened hospital visits and rights to same sax couples.. i must have been mistaken when i thought in time this state would be going in a positive direction.

[friskyfemme]

un blievable... and i think last summer they just opened hospital visits and rights to same sax couples.. i must have been mistaken when i thought in time this state would be going in a positive direction.
Being a state employee...I know all to well of how a governor can alter my benefits...
As a state employee we are not allowed to picket or give our opinions o the media.
This is the same in all states not just AZ. We depend on concerned citizens o be our voice. So if the people of the state don't stand up and vote...we are all screwed (state employees and private citizens alike).

[QueenofSmirks]

Being a state employee...I know all to well of how a governor can alter my benefits...
As a state employee we are not allowed to picket or give our opinions o the media.
This is the same in all states not just AZ. We depend on concerned citizens o be our voice. So if the people of the state don't stand up and vote...we are all screwed (state employees and private citizens alike).

It isn't just state employees - larger corporations demand certain "standards" from their employees as well. I work for a large financial firm - we are not to talk publicly about anything involving our company, we are not allowed to speak to the media, we are not allowed to engage in any activity that might be deemed "a conflict of interest"; we have to disclose ALL business-related activity (i.e. part time jobs, stock trading, business ventures, etc). That's a pretty tight leash. Unfortunately in this economy, I'm not going to make much of a stink about it. If there was anything in the "rules" that I was just absolutely against, couldn't live with, etc... I would file a grievance and quit. But, so far, it hasn't been an issue.

[friskyfemme]

Good Morning AZ

How are ya'll holding out in this 'steam bath'? Stay inside and drink plenty of water!

[asphaltcowboi]

as far as the heat yikes!!! i have decided this is my last summer on the shouth side... moving north.
i wish this state would be more unionized.. yes the union has problems but at least you know things are not going to change do to a higher ups mood of the day.

[QueenofSmirks]

as far as the heat yikes!!! i have decided this is my last summer on the shouth side... moving north.
i wish this state would be more unionized.. yes the union has problems but at least you know things are not going to change do to a higher ups mood of the day.

Since I'm not yet familiar with AZ... what do you consider the "south side" and "north side?" If there is a cooler part of town, I want to be there LOL

[asphaltcowboi]

Since I'm not yet familiar with AZ... what do you consider the "south side" and "north side?" If there is a cooler part of town, I want to be there LOL



aww not in the phoenix area... i think of the north side along the I40 around flagstaff. as far as phoenix area the farest north you can get will be cooler. but just think the winters in the valley are great!! im just tired of the summers here. even the east side is a bit cooler then the west.

[friskyfemme]

aww not in the phoenix area... i think of the north side along the I40 around flagstaff. as far as phoenix area the farest north you can get will be cooler. but just think the winters in the valley are great!! im just tired of the summers here. even the east side is a bit cooler then the west.
yep according to my GF in Mesa its about 5-10degrees cooler there(eastside). More rain over that way too. I like the Valley except in summer. But it's a tradeoff, I'll take the heat over the cold anyday. I am real whimpy about being cold. Even air conditioning below 80 degrees, My roommates like it around 72, freezes me out. Burrr.
QOS you need to come visit anytime but Summer which is not for the weak!

[asphaltcowboi]

yep according to my GF in Mesa its about 5-10degrees cooler there(eastside). More rain over that way too. I like the Valley except in summer. But it's a tradeoff, I'll take the heat over the cold anyday. I am real whimpy about being cold. Even air conditioning below 80 degrees, My roommates like it around 72, freezes me out. Burrr.
QOS you need to come visit anytime but Summer which is not for the weak!
yea im on the west side now but just landed a house up between flagstaff and kingman... ill be way out of the heat and a lil cold in the winter,, but my thought is ... you can always put on more clothes you can ony take off so many before they take you to jail!

[QueenofSmirks]

yep according to my GF in Mesa its about 5-10degrees cooler there(eastside). More rain over that way too. I like the Valley except in summer. But it's a tradeoff, I'll take the heat over the cold anyday. I am real whimpy about being cold. Even air conditioning below 80 degrees, My roommates like it around 72, freezes me out. Burrr.
QOS you need to come visit anytime but Summer which is not for the weak!

Uh... I'm way beyond visiting. I'm moving there in about 6 weeks LOL

[friskyfemme]

Uh... I'm way beyond visiting. I'm moving there in about 6 weeks LOL


Yipee QoS!

Where are you going to live? 6wks will start cool down here and the monsoon season probably be over. :) We'll definitely need to get together.

[Jet]

I used to live in Tempe. I liked it.....its been years, but I remember drinking on ASU's mountain that overlooks the stadium and raising hell along Camelback Road.

[QueenofSmirks]

Yipee QoS!

Where are you going to live? 6wks will start cool down here and the monsoon season probably be over. :) We'll definitely need to get together.

Well, my office is in downtown Phoenix, and I would really like to live within 20 minutes of there, but am willing to live a little further (Scottsdale, etc) if I find a really fabulous place that is just sooo much more amazing than anything in Phoenix; but frankly, of all the places I've looked at online, I don't think I'm going to have any problem finding a great place close to the office.

I DEFINITELY would love for all of us to get together once I'm settled... like maybe early October? I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone.

FF, thanks especially to you for making me feel welcome on this thread. I don't know a single person in AZ, so it's nice to know there are some welcoming people here! :)

[friskyfemme]

Yep,

Tempe-home of ASU. Definitely a college town, plenty of fast foods and dance clubs.
Less expensive housing too. Tempe Town Lake dam broke a couple of weeks ago big loss of income for Tempe. Projecting to have it repaired by Nov.when Snowbirds return.

Tempe also just opened a huge Aquarium. I havent seen it yet, but looks great. My 2 fav (so far) aquariums - Monterey Bay and Chicago.

[lipstixgal]

I still haven't made up my mind on whether to move to Arizona or not yet. The weather issue is huge for me I have asthma and too hot or too cold is not good!!

[friskyfemme]

I still haven't made up my mind on whether to move to Arizona or not yet. The weather issue is huge for me I have asthma and too hot or too cold is not good!!
You would probably due well (health wise ) considering hot/cold issue. Prescott, Cottonwood, Sedona, ShowLow, Payson. They are the Central Band of AZ. The weather is a 4 seasons area, but not the tempature extremes. However, it is a trade off for cultural and community(each is at least 1 1/2 hrs from Phoenix or Flagstaff).

Have you visited AZ? You really should visit in Summer so you can check out different regions during the Monsoon season June to Sept (worse weather July/Aug). I vacationed in AZ for 5yrs several regions coming different times of the year before I moved here. I think there is something for everyone here-snow, mountains, and desert. You're welcome to come anytime. :)

[ComparedToWhom]

New to the forum, just wanted to shout-out from Phoenix, 5th largest city in the US.... um, ah, where the heck is everyone??

PM sent to Queenofsmirks re your impending move here. When people razz you about it being hotter than hell here just tell them this winter you'll be in flip-flops and shorts when they are freezing their hineys off. Oh, and that you don't have to shovel sunshine! :p

[QueenofSmirks]

New to the forum, just wanted to shout-out from Phoenix, 5th largest city in the US.... um, ah, where the heck is everyone??

PM sent to Queenofsmirks re your impending move here. When people razz you about it being hotter than hell here just tell them this winter you'll be in flip-flops and shorts when they are freezing their hineys off. Oh, and that you don't have to shovel sunshine! :p


LOL yes, trust me, I've had to battle comments from all sides! :) I must admit, I'm not looking forward to the "holy hell" heat, but I AM looking forward to no more snow!! yippeee!

[friskyfemme]

Hey AZ ~~

I have been xtremely preoccupied with home repair and debugging my computer. I am looking forward to meeting you Compare to Whom. Am in Glendale...you?

Q of S...when you moving chick-a-dee?

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey AZ ~~

I have been xtremely preoccupied with home repair and debugging my computer. I am looking forward to meeting you Compare to Whom. Am in Glendale...you?

Q of S...when you moving chick-a-dee?

I should be arriving Labor Day weekend! I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of freaking out LOL It's a big move, I'm still trying to get everything done, and starting to really really really miss my friends...ughhhhh. I know I'll be okay in a few weeks, but this is the hardest part - saying goodbye to everyone. I'm already planning a trip back to visit in March LOL

[friskyfemme]

I should be arriving Labor Day weekend! I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of freaking out LOL It's a big move, I'm still trying to get everything done, and starting to really really really miss my friends...ughhhhh. I know I'll be okay in a few weeks, but this is the hardest part - saying goodbye to everyone. I'm already planning a trip back to visit in March LOL


I totally relate! When I moved away from my family and friends by myself to AZ in 2000, I freaked as well. For awhile, I questioned my logic...but after I made friends and moved around the state I realize that this is where I was meant to be. I will certainly be happy to help you get familar with the area. I work longhours during the week but I have weekends off. Just let me know when. I'll pm my cell#.

PS I generally visit once or twice a year...LOL

[QueenofSmirks]

I totally relate! When I moved away from my family and friends by myself to AZ in 2000, I freaked as well. For awhile, I questioned my logic...but after I made friends and moved around the state I realize that this is where I was meant to be. I will certainly be happy to help you get familar with the area. I work longhours during the week but I have weekends off. Just let me know when. I'll pm my cell#.

PS I generally visit once or twice a year...LOL

Thanks for the words of encouragement! :) This is actually not the first time I'm making a big move like this. The first time was 9 years ago when I left my hometown in Colorado to move to NYC. That was tough. And this move I have felt really really good about until Friday when I had to say goodbye to several people I'm really close with. All of the sudden, I started doubting my decision, and I still feel a little down today, but I know it's the right decision, at least for right now :)

Enough of that!

I am really looking forward to getting together with you all when I get settled in! Just out of curiosity, does anyone besides me gamble? LOL I plan to spend lots of time at the casinos!

[asphaltcowboi]

ok finished my move from the phoenix area to kingman. love it up here but im not sure if there is any gay/les life here. i moved into a biker neiborhood all except one guy has a harley or at least rides.. i think the one guy is not gay but a cross dresser. any im 20 mins from the casinos in laughlin and all the fun on the colorado river 2 hrs from vegas. the weather in much cooler here then in the valley. anyone coming up this way to visit or play in the river or casinos please drop me a line!

[friskyfemme]

ok finished my move from the phoenix area to kingman. love it up here but im not sure if there is any gay/les life here. i moved into a biker neiborhood all except one guy has a harley or at least rides.. i think the one guy is not gay but a cross dresser. any im 20 mins from the casinos in laughlin and all the fun on the colorado river 2 hrs from vegas. the weather in much cooler here then in the valley. anyone coming up this way to visit or play in the river or casinos please drop me a line!

Hi Guy,

Glad ur move went well. Sorry u are the only indentifiable gay there. I have never been to Laughlin, I hear it's pretty cool. Do I hear ROADTRIP?:vigil:

[asphaltcowboi]

Hi Guy,

Glad ur move went well. Sorry u are the only indentifiable gay there. I have never been to Laughlin, I hear it's pretty cool. Do I hear ROADTRIP?:vigil:

just let me know when your headed this way.. it would be all kinds of fun to hang at the casinos or on the river!

[friskyfemme]

just let me know when your headed this way.. it would be all kinds of fun to hang at the casinos or on the river!
Thanks for the invite. Will definitely let you know when I can get your way. Gives me something to look forward to.

[ComparedToWhom]

I don't have any personal connection to ASU, just thought I'd pass along this info regarding a GLBTQQIA event happening throughout this fall semester: OUTspoken Dialogue Series (http://www.asu.edu/studentaffairs/mu/lgbtq/OUTspoken.htm)

If you're going send me a PM.

CTW

[hot-not]

We are having a little Butch and femme gathering in Minneapolis October 22 to 24, 2010.

All are invited.

We are in the planning stages. So far:

Friday we will have a meet and greet downtown--details to follow.

Saturday brunch then whatever you want to do: swimming, Mall of America, site seeing.

Saturday evening, Party at hot-not's house including horseshoes, karaoke, dancing, Chef Jenn is cooking.

Sunday Brunch

Still working out hotel details.

Please PM me if interested.

hot-not, April

[friskyfemme]

We are having a little Butch and femme gathering in Minneapolis October 22 to 24, 2010.

All are invited.

We are in the planning stages. So far:

Friday we will have a meet and greet downtown--details to follow.

Saturday brunch then whatever you want to do: swimming, Mall of America, site seeing.

Saturday evening, Party at hot-not's house including horseshoes, karaoke, dancing, Chef Jenn is cooking.

Sunday Brunch

Still working out hotel details.

Please PM me if interested.

hot-not, April
Sounds like a great time! Minneapolis is a beautiful city. I visite there when I was in my early teens. I still remember the wonderfulness of your city and state. Enjoy each other and savor your time together.

If you get down to Arizona, please let me know.

[friskyfemme]

I don't have any personal connection to ASU, just thought I'd pass along this info regarding a GLBTQQIA event happening throughout this fall semester: OUTspoken Dialogue Series (http://www.asu.edu/studentaffairs/mu/lgbtq/OUTspoken.htm)

If you're going send me a PM.

CTW
Thanks for the link. When you comin back through? Where you headed?
I am totally nosey.

[QueenofSmirks]

Who's up for a Casino meet up???

Casino Arizona in Scottsdale isn't too far from me (North Phoenix), but I could also make a trip to the Gila River casinos (south of Tempe?)

I'm still getting settled into my apartment, but I am ready to hang out and relax!! :)

[friskyfemme]

Who's up for a Casino meet up???

Casino Arizona in Scottsdale isn't too far from me (North Phoenix), but I could also make a trip to the Gila River casinos (south of Tempe?)

I'm still getting settled into my apartment, but I am ready to hang out and relax!! :)


hi QOS,

Glad to see you post. I have plans tonight. I am available during the day or else Sat.

[QueenofSmirks]

hi QOS,

Glad to see you post. I have plans tonight. I am available during the day or else Sat.

Next weekend or after is better. I have a lot going on tomorrow and I have plans on Sunday; plus we want time to plan and invite people, so .... who is interested and can make it next weekend? If not, does another weekend work better for you? Is Casino Arizona (Scottsdale) good for everyone??? :)

[friskyfemme]

Next weekend or after is better. I have a lot going on tomorrow and I have plans on Sunday; plus we want time to plan and invite people, so .... who is interested and can make it next weekend? If not, does another weekend work better for you? Is Casino Arizona (Scottsdale) good for everyone??? :)

Stephanie,

Sounds good. I assume you're talking about Casino Arizona at Talking Sticking Resort? at Indian Bend?

The one at McKellips is considered Mesa now. It is the original Casino Arizona. I used to go this one years ago when I lived in Scottsdale. LOL :)

Next Friday night is a retirement party for one coworker and celebration party for another coworker who just became an American citizen.

I could meet up afterwards or Sat. if that works for others ... I'm pretty flexible.

[QueenofSmirks]

On second thought, Saturday may be too soon (FF - I sent you a PM). To give folks time to plan ahead, how about we plan to meet for dinner Saturday October 9 around 5pm at Casino Arizona at Talking Stick Resort (101 Loop and Indian Bend). Then we can hang out and play afterward.
Who's in????

[QueenofSmirks]

Ok, I realize there are only 3 of us in all of Arizona, but here are the details for our get together:

LUNCH
Saturday October 16th 1pm
Paradise Bakery and Cafe

Please PM or email me for location details! :)

[friskyfemme]

Ok, I realize there are only 3 of us in all of Arizona, but here are the details for our get together:

LUNCH
Saturday October 16th 1pm
Paradise Bakery and Cafe

Please PM or email me for location details! :)


I am ok for meeting then. It would be nice for BPP to meet then. Do we want just BPP to come or are you comfortable meeting other Arizonian gays?

[JoSchmooze]

:canoworms:I would love to meet up with y'all...
Someone earlier mentioned Laughlin....I have been up there once, about 6 months ago
and am actually going again the weekend AFTER this luncheon date!
I'll pm and get directions....am I the only one down here in Tucson??
I may have stay up there overnight as I have to fly to Milwaukee early
on Sunday morning - but what the heck.....it's an adventure....

:fastdraq:

[QueenofSmirks]

Yay! Looks like it's coming together! :)

FF -Yes - feel free to invite your friends.

Jo - Sadly, yes, you might be the only one in Tucson, since there are only 4 of us in all of AZ LOL

I will PM both of you with the address. Looking forward to it!

[paposeco]

:canoworms:I would love to meet up with y'all...
Someone earlier mentioned Laughlin....I have been up there once, about 6 months ago
and am actually going again the weekend AFTER this luncheon date!
I'll pm and get directions....am I the only one down here in Tucson??
I may have stay up there overnight as I have to fly to Milwaukee early
on Sunday morning - but what the heck.....it's an adventure....

:fastdraq:

You're not the only one in Tucson lol...I'm in Tucson, eastside. Go to the 'howl at the moon' sometimes. Still not sure if I'll be able to make it to Phnx. I hope so..we'll see.

[QueenofSmirks]

I'm considering going to Tucson Pride. Are either of you Tusconians/Tusconites (obviously I have no idea what the right term is!) going???

[QueenofSmirks]

:canoworms:I would love to meet up with y'all...
Someone earlier mentioned Laughlin....I have been up there once, about 6 months ago
and am actually going again the weekend AFTER this luncheon date!
I'll pm and get directions....am I the only one down here in Tucson??
I may have stay up there overnight as I have to fly to Milwaukee early
on Sunday morning - but what the heck.....it's an adventure....

:fastdraq:


I've never been to Laughlin, but I'm a poker fiend... so I might have to check it out! We could always plan a BFP weekend gathering there..... :)

[JoSchmooze]

You're not the only one in Tucson lol...I'm in Tucson, eastside. Go to the 'howl at the moon' sometimes. Still not sure if I'll be able to make it to Phnx. I hope so..we'll see.

Eastside?? No way...*looking out the window*
Ya know where the Rose Academy (magnet school) is just north of
Wilmot and Golf Links is?
I am right across the street from there!

I haven't been to Howl At The Moon is many months....
My ex hangs out there and I just don't even wanna be bothered
with her presence.....

:fastdraq: :fastdraq: :fastdraq:

[JoSchmooze]

I'm considering going to Tucson Pride. Are either of you Tusconians/Tusconites (obviously I have no idea what the right term is!) going???



I didn't realize until just now that it is next weekend!
If you'd like to come down, I can hook up with you on Saturday...
And I could very well be convinced to hang out on Friday night for the Parade......
Just saying......

:fastdraq: :fastdraq: :fastdraq:

[paposeco]

I'm considering going to Tucson Pride. Are either of you Tusconians/Tusconites (obviously I have no idea what the right term is!) going???



We iz called, Tucsonans...:sunglass:lol
I am not a native tucsonan.
If, just saying, I'm not able to make it up there, maybe when you come here we could meet up someplace. Leaving it an open invitation.

[paposeco]

I didn't realize until just now that it is next weekend!
If you'd like to come down, I can hook up with you on Saturday...
And I could very well be convinced to hang out on Friday night for the Parade......
Just saying......

:fastdraq: :fastdraq: :fastdraq:

Next weekend??? ah jeez! Dang near forgot all about it :shocking:

[paposeco]

Eastside?? No way...*looking out the window*
Ya know where the Rose Academy (magnet school) is just north of
Wilmot and Golf Links is?
I am right across the street from there!

I haven't been to Howl At The Moon is many months....
My ex hangs out there and I just don't even wanna be bothered
with her presence.....

:fastdraq: :fastdraq: :fastdraq:
I have a general idea of where that is.
I don't go to the howl that often, a couple of 2-3 times/yr. Don't feel like driving across town and it's usually more of the same ol' thing.
Hmmmm...wondering if we know eachother:blink:

[JoSchmooze]

I have a general idea of where that is.
I don't go to the howl that often, a couple of 2-3 times/yr. Don't feel like driving across town and it's usually more of the same ol' thing.
Hmmmm...wondering if we know eachother:blink:

Hmmmmmm....we might, one never knows.....

[QueenofSmirks]

I'd say let's make it a threesome for Tuscon Pride, but I don't want to scare anyone LOL

Seriously though, I will look into it a little more so I can figure out what's going on and if I can make it. I haven't been to any Pride event for a couple of years, so I'm overdue! :)

[QueenofSmirks]

RE: Tuscon Pride -- I would love to attend the parade on Friday night, but I don't know if I can get out of work. If I can't... is it worth coming down on Saturday? Do the Tusconians have any tips for me? LOL

[friskyfemme]

RE: Tuscon Pride -- I would love to attend the parade on Friday night, but I don't know if I can get out of work. If I can't... is it worth coming down on Saturday? Do the Tusconians have any tips for me? LOL


I haven't ever been to Tucson Pride...but I here it's better than Phoenix. I will be going for Sat. Festival ass I work on Friday. I am maybe going w a couple of peeps you're welcome to come with.

[friskyfemme]

You're not the only one in Tucson lol...I'm in Tucson, eastside. Go to the 'howl at the moon' sometimes. Still not sure if I'll be able to make it to Phnx. I hope so..we'll see.
So who all is planning on going to Tucson Pride? Maybe we could meet up there? Being I have never been I don't know where it's held. It'll have to be Sat for me, sinceI work on Friday.

[paposeco]

So who all is planning on going to Tucson Pride? Maybe we could meet up there? Being I have never been I don't know where it's held. It'll have to be Sat for me, sinceI work on Friday.

I'll get all the particulars and post it, and pick a place we can all meet at, we should think about wearing some sort of identifier, so we know who to look for, what you think? any ideas anyone?

[paposeco]

RE: Tuscon Pride -- I would love to attend the parade on Friday night, but I don't know if I can get out of work. If I can't... is it worth coming down on Saturday? Do the Tusconians have any tips for me? LOL


not telling you what to do, but I think it would be nice to hang out and meet some of us face to face.

[QueenofSmirks]

I think Friday will be almost impossible though, so count me in for Saturday! Just give me the details (I saw you said you'd post in this thread); time, place, where to park, any other tips, etc. Just an FYI - I'm nursing an injured knee, so I probably won't stay the whole day - the standing/walking will likely determine how long I can hang out, but either way, I'm looking forward to it! :)

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey ya'll, I started a Yahoo group for AZ butch, femme, trans. Let me know if I can send you an invite to it :)

Thanks!

[friskyfemme]

How about we meet inside the gate at 10am? How about a name tag of BFP? I don't know yet what I'll be wearing...

[paposeco]

How about we meet inside the gate at 10am? How about a name tag of BFP? I don't know yet what I'll be wearing...

Thought I was over whatever it is that got me sick, but it wasn't done with me yet. Sorry guys I said I was going to post the info about the Pride thing, but all I've been doing is laying down and feeling miserable. I figured I'd better log in and see what I've missed. If I don't feel any better, my butt is staying home, but if I'm feeling better, I'll show up.
btw, frisky..10am sat? fri?...I'm so out of it:seeingstars:

[paposeco]

Hey ya'll, I started a Yahoo group for AZ butch, femme, trans. Let me know if I can send you an invite to it :)

Thanks!


Yes on the invite, ty.

[QueenofSmirks]

Yes on the invite, ty.

Yay! PM me your email address please :)

Oh, and sorry you haven't been feeling well:(

[friskyfemme]

hey all,

I am going on Sat to Pride. Whadya think about meeting inside the gate? Is there more than one?

I found this info:

Reid Park (at E. 22nd St. and S. Country Club Rd.), the Pride in the Desert Festival takes place from 10 am until 8 pm and features dozens of prominent performers. This year's lineup includes such notables as Jonny McGovern & Team Pimp, Ari Gold, Adam Joseph, God-des & She, Boys R Us, Marc Pedraza, Courtney Robbins, Namoli Brennet, Dragstar Cabaret, Angie Evans, Sabra Faulk, Patty Larkin, and many others. Performances on the Main Stage are emceed by Mistress of Ceremonies Bunny Fu Fu, and there's additional talent performing at folk-spirited Coffeehouse Stage.

I am looking forward to the meet.

Sending you chicken soup paposeco. JoSmooze are you going to Pride?

Steph do need/want a ride?

[QueenofSmirks]

Steph do need/want a ride?

Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to be able to make it. I have a lot going on and weekends are filling up quickly. As you know, a lot of places aren't open on Sunday, so that makes Saturdays even more valuable.

Sorry to bag out on this, I really wanted to go.

I will absolutely be at the Lunch on Oct 16 - hope to see you there!

[friskyfemme]

Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to be able to make it. I have a lot going on and weekends are filling up quickly. As you know, a lot of places aren't open on Sunday, so that makes Saturdays even more valuable.

Sorry to bag out on this, I really wanted to go.

I will absolutely be at the Lunch on Oct 16 - hope to see you there!


ahhh Steph...sorry you aren't going...

Will see you on the 16th. Call me if you want.


SO what ya say guys? where should we meet?

[JoSchmooze]

hey all,

I am going on Sat to Pride. Whadya think about meeting inside the gate? Is there more than one?

I found this info:

Reid Park (at E. 22nd St. and S. Country Club Rd.), the Pride in the Desert Festival takes place from 10 am until 8 pm and features dozens of prominent performers. This year's lineup includes such notables as Jonny McGovern & Team Pimp, Ari Gold, Adam Joseph, God-des & She, Boys R Us, Marc Pedraza, Courtney Robbins, Namoli Brennet, Dragstar Cabaret, Angie Evans, Sabra Faulk, Patty Larkin, and many others. Performances on the Main Stage are emceed by Mistress of Ceremonies Bunny Fu Fu, and there's additional talent performing at folk-spirited Coffeehouse Stage.

I am looking forward to the meet.

Sending you chicken soup paposeco. JoSmooze are you going to Pride?

Steph do need/want a ride?

I will be there with bells on!! (So to speak).....
I should be able to make it at 10 am...right insode the gate?
There will be several gates - how about somewhere around the food?
I am about 5'7"....salt&peppah real short hair and I'll have on shorts....ummmmm
How about a straw cowboy hat....with a turquoise hat band....
I met a gay guy on the flight home from Milwaukee last night so I may have him
with me.....
P.M. here and I'll give you my cell number....

[friskyfemme]

I will be there with bells on!! (So to speak).....
I should be able to make it at 10 am...right insode the gate?
There will be several gates - how about somewhere around the food?
I am about 5'7"....salt&peppah real short hair and I'll have on shorts....ummmmm
How about a straw cowboy hat....with a turquoise hat band....
I met a gay guy on the flight home from Milwaukee last night so I may have him
with me.....
P.M. here and I'll give you my cell number....
Great! looking forward to meeting up! Looking for ur straw hat.

[QueenofSmirks]

Have fun at Tucson Pride ya'll!

Just a reminder, next weekend on Saturday the 16th is our lunch gathering in Phoenix! Hope you can make it :)

[friskyfemme]

Have fun at Tucson Pride ya'll!

Just a reminder, next weekend on Saturday the 16th is our lunch gathering in Phoenix! Hope you can make it :)


Yeppers. Looking forward to meeting up. Especially since I missed Tucson Pride .

[QueenofSmirks]

Yeppers. Looking forward to meeting up. Especially since I missed Tucson Pride .

You missed Tucson Pride? What happened?

[asphaltcowboi]

Hey ya'll, I started a Yahoo group for AZ butch, femme, trans. Let me know if I can send you an invite to it :)

Thanks!



please send an invite to the yahoo group?
ive been in wyo. for over a month and have missed out on alot.
where is everyone meeting next sat?

[QueenofSmirks]

please send an invite to the yahoo group?
ive been in wyo. for over a month and have missed out on alot.
where is everyone meeting next sat?

Hey Cody! Will do - please send me your email address! If anyone else would like to join the AZ BFT group, please email or PM your email address to me. You can also join by going to Yahoo and searching for AZBFT or go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AZBFT/

Cody, I'll PM you the info for next Saturday's lunch - we're meeting in North-ish Phoenix. It would be great if you could join us!

[QueenofSmirks]

Saturday October 16th , 1pm - lunch gathering in Phoenix!

I think we have 4 or 5 attendees so far. Please let me know if you plan to attend and I'll send you details offlist.

PM me or email me at queenofsmirks@msn.com.

Hope to see you there!

[friskyfemme]

Saturday October 16th , 1pm - lunch gathering in Phoenix!

I think we have 4 or 5 attendees so far. Please let me know if you plan to attend and I'll send you details offlist.

PM me or email me at queenofsmirks@msn.com.

Hope to see you there!
Qof S

Is the place still at Paradise Bakery? For some reason I thought time was at 11am, did that change? Am I confused?

[JoSchmooze]

Yes, yes.....
Inquiring minds want to know.....
I need to know so that I can adjust driving time.....

11 am or 1 pm??

:fastdraq::fastdraq::fastdraq:

[friskyfemme]

I still don't know the time but here's the address:
Paradise Bakery & Cafe
375 E. Bell Road
Phoenix, AZ, 85022
(602) 296-5151

Stephanie- Help us out here please...TIME? Thanks

[Lillie]

Hi Gail!
all i can say is just about all the Phoenix area is gay friendly. actually i would say all of Az. as far as living here i really like the NW part of Phoenix/Glendale. i lived there for years. i wouldnt sugest anything farther west of Avondale. i moved here from Calif. and have found this whole state to be friendly, no mater who you are. Good luvk and let us know where /when you land here! as far as the weather the farther north you get the cooler it will be. we have a few weeks of very hot weather, durning that time everyone stays in the a/c or the pool! them we have the monsoons for a few weeks they are not usually bad. 15 20 min wind and rain storms that are actually refreshing. gays bars? there are several we even have one that is a womans bar that is mostly country with 2 step and line dance classes a couple times a week. late in the eves they are very well rounded with the music.

err I live near sun city...and for those in the cheap seats thats snowbirdville lol..however, my partner and I have both noticed alot of couples b/f couples actually living up here in surprise/sun city area...we have many many friends up here..and have all noticed alot of us moving up here..I know I am technically NW of Avondale..but I would say I live in an extremely gay friendly area..I am not bothered and neither are my neighbors :0 so lets have a :wine: and enjoy this beautiful evening..its cool and breezy and dare I say about to storm? :byebye:

p.s.
I have now subscribed to this post and will check it more frequently...this was a bad month to try to make any plans since all my weekends till november are booked with family..but I sure hope ya'll have a great time..and perhaps I can find a way to join ya'll another time...

night all!

[QueenofSmirks]

Qof S

Is the place still at Paradise Bakery? For some reason I thought time was at 11am, did that change? Am I confused?

It's always been 1pm. Here's the original post http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196435&postcount=94

Everyone who said they were coming received a private message from me with the address. I don't really like to post info publicly just as a safety precaution.

See you then!

[QueenofSmirks]

Unless someone is showing up that I don't know about, I think our final count is 4. Considering there are only 6 of us in AZ, that's not bad (haha... I'm kidding).

I don't know what I'll be wearing, but my pic is in the/my member gallery so feel free to take a look :)

I'm going to re-send my cell # to everyone in PMs. You can call or text me if you're running late, can't find it, just wanna say hi ... LOL

See you at 1pm!

[friskyfemme]

err I live near sun city...and for those in the cheap seats thats snowbirdville lol..however, my partner and I have both noticed alot of couples b/f couples actually living up here in surprise/sun city area...we have many many friends up here..and have all noticed alot of us moving up here..I know I am technically NW of Avondale..but I would say I live in an extremely gay friendly area..I am not bothered and neither are my neighbors :0 so lets have a :wine: and enjoy this beautiful evening..its cool and breezy and dare I say about to storm? :byebye:

p.s.
I have now subscribed to this post and will check it more frequently...this was a bad month to try to make any plans since all my weekends till november are booked with family..but I sure hope ya'll have a great time..and perhaps I can find a way to join ya'll another time...

night all!
Hi Lillie,

Welcome to the thread. I'm sorry you can't make today. However, if you're interested or anyone for that matter, I am a member in a group that meets on Sundays in a downtown Glendale, gay owned, restaurant. They give us their banquet room! The members are mainly professionals or retired professionals.

[QueenofSmirks]

Wow, what a nice surprise today! 7 of us showed up, from near and far! I really enjoyed it and can't wait to do it again! Let's try to pick a date soon so we can all block it off. I think we agreed to meet in Maricopa, and I would assume we'll spend much of the day/evening there. As FF mentioned at today's lunch, and I agreed, it will likely have to be sometime in December as weekends in October/November are already filling up or are full for some of us. For me personally, I can do Saturday December 11 and that's about it unless plans change that are already in place. Of course, if a different date works for you all and I can't make it, I'll just catch up with you next time :)

[JoSchmooze]

I believe that a good time was had by all....
I got back to Tucson just about 5:30 pm.....
Next time Maricopa - we'll watch Queenie play some poker,
And I'll play a lil blackjack.....
It was a fun afternoon and I enjoyed meeting all y'all....

And it was fun walking down memory lane with Scooter!
Seems we have known each other almost 15 years through
one forum or another!

I'll think of y'all as I am taking off from Sky Harbor this morning!!

:cigar2::cigar2::cigar2:

[asphaltcowboi]

sorry i didnt make the meet. ive been very busy and i live way up north in kingman. but it sounds like ya'll had a good time and i plan to catch up with everyone on another date. im pretty booked until after the new year:confused:. i would truly like to meet. and hiya jo.. im a/c from bfp

[QueenofSmirks]

I believe that a good time was had by all....
I got back to Tucson just about 5:30 pm.....
Next time Maricopa - we'll watch Queenie play some poker,
And I'll play a lil blackjack.....
It was a fun afternoon and I enjoyed meeting all y'all....

And it was fun walking down memory lane with Scooter!
Seems we have known each other almost 15 years through
one forum or another!

I'll think of y'all as I am taking off from Sky Harbor this morning!!

:cigar2::cigar2::cigar2:



Have a great trip!!!

Speaking of Maricopa.... this is a question for the group -- can we pick a date soon so everyone can block it off? I changed some plans so besides December 11th, I could also do November 20/21.

Let me know!

Jo -- I might join you at the Blackjack tables *grin*

[friskyfemme]

Have a great trip!!!

Speaking of Maricopa.... this is a question for the group -- can we pick a date soon so everyone can block it off? I changed some plans so besides December 11th, I could also do November 20/21.

Let me know!

Jo -- I might join you at the Blackjack tables *grin*


I could be available on Nov 20th for Maricopa about 2pm meet itme. How does that work for everyone else?

[friskyfemme]

sorry i didnt make the meet. ive been very busy and i live way up north in kingman. but it sounds like ya'll had a good time and i plan to catch up with everyone on another date. im pretty booked until after the new year:confused:. i would truly like to meet. and hiya jo.. im a/c from bfp
Hi Cody,

Sorry you didn't make this meet. Hopefully you can make a future meet. In these hard financial times, we need to help each we don't have to always meet out. We can meet at individuals' place too. I can put up a couple of peeps overnight for peeps travelling for a group meet up. We can meet at my house for afternoon get together as long as its a small group of 10 or less.
Just a thought.

[JoSchmooze]

Nov 20 is a good date for me....but I gotta say
that Maricopa is certainly NOT halfway!

Let me know who can come on that Saturday...
And feel free to join me at blackjack.....

[dusty]

hey,
just want to say hi and let you know I'm here in Az...

dusty

[QueenofSmirks]

hey,
just want to say hi and let you know I'm here in Az...

dusty

Hey Dusty, welcome to the thread! Where in AZ are you?

[QueenofSmirks]

Nov 20 is a good date for me....but I gotta say
that Maricopa is certainly NOT halfway!

Let me know who can come on that Saturday...
And feel free to join me at blackjack.....

November 20th sounds like a good date for most... if you want to pick a different place to meet, that's fine by me. I was just following what I thought you all had agreed on, or at least it sounded that way to me. I'm marking it on my calendar, just let me know where we're gonna meet :)

[friskyfemme]

Nov 20 is a good date for me....but I gotta say
that Maricopa is certainly NOT halfway!

Let me know who can come on that Saturday...
And feel free to join me at blackjack.....
Ok so I am distance illiterate. Harrah's still good with you? ;)

[friskyfemme]

hey,
just want to say hi and let you know I'm here in Az...

dusty
hi Dusty,

Nice to meet you. We are talking about a get together at Harrah's Casino in Maricopa. Would love to have you and your partner join us.

[dusty]

Hi Stephanie and FF,
I am out in Apache Junction, my sweetie will be home late tonight, she's been out in Chicago, so I will be a very happy camper soon!
Thanks for the welcome!
dusty

[friskyfemme]

Hi Stephanie and FF,
I am out in Apache Junction, my sweetie will be home late tonight, she's been out in Chicago, so I will be a very happy camper soon!
Thanks for the welcome!
dusty
dusty

Have a great renewal weekend. :)

[JoSchmooze]

Ok so I am distance illiterate. Harrah's still good with you? ;)


Nov 20 still sounds good to me....
Right this minute I am sitting in my hotel room in
Laughlin, NV after a night of blackjack and unimaginable
Fun and laughter!

I am up about three hundred bucks, gonna take a shower and a nap and then start all over again!

I forgot the dang camera, but will try and take some
cell phone pics and post them when I get back on Sunday...

Hope everyone's weekend is a good one...
:glasses::glasses::glasses:

[friskyfemme]

Nov 20 still sounds good to me....
Right this minute I am sitting in my hotel room in
Laughlin, NV after a night of blackjack and unimaginable
Fun and laughter!

I am up about three hundred bucks, gonna take a shower and a nap and then start all over again!

I forgot the dang camera, but will try and take some
cell phone pics and post them when I get back on Sunday...

Hope everyone's weekend is a good one...
:glasses::glasses::glasses:

Wow...
Continued luck to you. Have great fun!

[QueenofSmirks]

November 20th is saved on my calendar -- where are we meeting??? What time?


Jo- I hope your gambling success continued into the next day and for the rest of your trip! I haven't played poker at all lately -- had company for 4 days and now I'm getting ready to take a trip to L.A. to visit family this weekend. I'll probably play at the Bicycle Casino while I'm there! :)

[friskyfemme]

Hey everyone,
How's things going? Harrah's Casino in Maricopa, 1pm, Nov. 11. How's that sound to you?
We could meet for lunch at the Harrah's buffet first. What do ya think?

[QueenofSmirks]

I think their daily poker tournament starts around 11am, so I'll probably be there before you all get there; won't be able to join you for lunch unless I"m out by then, which is HIGHLY possible LOL So, text me when you arrive and I'll come and find you.

Anyone else planning to show up????

[QueenofSmirks]

I changed my mind. I will play cash poker that way I can get up and leave anytime without penalty. That way I can have lunch with you all :) This of course is all based on the idea that we WILL actually have a gathering! Seems like interest has kind of fallen off.

Anyone else planning on going???

[friskyfemme]

Hey Folks,
I apologize about the date in my post. I am planning on Nov 20 at 1pm. LOL! Can we get a head count? Does anyone want to carpool? Doesn't Harrah's have a shuttle from Phoenix? I would be good either way.

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey FF.... I am starting to think we don't have enough interest for Nov. 20th :( If it doesn't pan out, I plan to be at the West Side coffee gathering on Sunday (the next day), so maybe I'll see you there?

Also, I'll be posting a dinner gathering soon for either Dec. 7th or 8th - 6:30pm. Stay tuned....

[friskyfemme]

Hey FF.... I am starting to think we don't have enough interest for Nov. 20th :( If it doesn't pan out, I plan to be at the West Side coffee gathering on Sunday (the next day), so maybe I'll see you there?

Also, I'll be posting a dinner gathering soon for either Dec. 7th or 8th - 6:30pm. Stay tuned....



I do hope to see my new acquaintances from last month. If not at Harrah's, where?

The West Valley group meets for breakfast on Sundays at 10am at Bitzee Mama's downtown Glendale.

We can meet at one of the many festivals ongoig during this season. Suggestions?

[asphaltcowboi]

good morning all.. beautiful cold morning up north.. i think most are in the valley

yQYwD-tHd5g

[QueenofSmirks]

good morning all.. beautiful cold morning up north.. i think most are in the valley


Good morning Cody! I haven't been outside yet, but I can tell it's chilly because my apartment is cool this morning. It still beats the temps I would be experiencing if I were still in NJ!! :)

[friskyfemme]

Hi Cody,

How ya doing up there? Ya know it's cold down here too. Down in the 40s overnight. Burrrrrrrr!
Thanks for the Scapes of AZ pictures. I love AZ! I have been to a number of the landmarks shown, but I have never been to Antelope. It's definitely on my list now.

[friskyfemme]

Hi AZ friends,
What's everyone up to these days? I have been working long hours but I am ready to party. This Saturday is the Women's Dance at Forbidden in Scottsdale 6:30p. Anyone else going? We on for Nov 20?

[friskyfemme]

Hello AZers,

Are we still meeting at Harrah's this Saturday?

[QueenofSmirks]

Hello AZers,

Are we still meeting at Harrah's this Saturday?

I'd say we're officially a "no go" for this one. Haven't seen or heard of anyone else attending.

I say we try to get Cody to agree to us going up North for a weekend and hitting the casinos up there. :)

[friskyfemme]

I'd say we're officially a "no go" for this one. Haven't seen or heard of anyone else attending.

I say we try to get Cody to agree to us going up North for a weekend and hitting the casinos up there. :)


Yeppers!
How about it Cody? You feeling up to a 'homeland invasion'?

Where is Dusty? Papaseco?

[asphaltcowboi]

ok so i know its raining down there where ya'll are. just thought id let you know its 36 and snowing here.. after living in the valley of the sun the last 6 yrs im freezing my but off!

[friskyfemme]

ok so i know its raining down there where ya'll are. just thought id let you know its 36 and snowing here.. after living in the valley of the sun the last 6 yrs im freezing my but off!
Poor Cody,

(Handing you a nice big quilt and a cup of cocoa) Sending your warm wishes and sunshine. But dude, you knowing moved to the frozen tundra! I am freezing here in the cold rain and wind.

Snuggling close.

[asphaltcowboi]

Poor Cody,

(Handing you a nice big quilt and a cup of cocoa) Sending your warm wishes and sunshine. But dude, you knowing moved to the frozen tundra! I am freezing here in the cold rain and wind.

Snuggling close.
lol yea i did cuz the guy across the street is a close family friend and the best part is he has a full motorcycle shop set up in his garage.. and all my neibors are bikers except one.. lol he's a cross dresser that wavs at us when we ride by

[asphaltcowboi]

good morning zoners.. hope all had a great holiday!!
oh plud i just joined a group that meets for dinner and coffee down there.. azb-f- t/g. ever hear of it? anyone intrested ill post the link.. heres another cool az song (more mellow) with great pics!
1lvQIXpnZD0

[asphaltcowboi]

good morning arizoners!! its cold up north!!! hope everyone has a great day!

[QueenofSmirks]

It's "cold" down here too.... 39 degrees! I actually turned the heat on for 20 minutes this morning LOL

[asphaltcowboi]

It's "cold" down here too.... 39 degrees! I actually turned the heat on for 20 minutes this morning LOL


oh darn not the heat!! it noon and still 34 up here... and btw thanks for suporting our state.. i was to frustrated to post anymore.. ill still read opinion in there but my posts seem to send mixed messages..

[friskyfemme]

good morning arizoners!! its cold up north!!! hope everyone has a great day!
Hey Cody,

I'm so tired of newscast saying we're 10degrees below normal. I'm cold enough without being reminded I shouldn't be. LOL

Yep I have my heat on.

[asphaltcowboi]

Hey Cody,

I'm so tired of newscast saying we're 10degrees below normal. I'm cold enough without being reminded I shouldn't be. LOL

Yep I have my heat on.

lol heat in the valley? they put heaters in homes down there? i dont recall ever using one..j/k i know the nights and get real cold!
im going tomorrow to put mud an snow tires on my truck so i dont slide around so bad when winter settles in here. i think its a trade off expense for high a/c bills for the summertime in the valley.

[QueenofSmirks]

oh darn not the heat!! it noon and still 34 up here... and btw thanks for suporting our state.. i was to frustrated to post anymore.. ill still read opinion in there but my posts seem to send mixed messages..


Not only did I have to turn the heat on, I had to wear a coat today! ::: gasp!:::

and... you're welcome re: AZ support :)

[QueenofSmirks]

lol heat in the valley? they put heaters in homes down there? i dont recall ever using one..j/k i know the nights and get real cold!
im going tomorrow to put mud an snow tires on my truck so i dont slide around so bad when winter settles in here. i think its a trade off expense for high a/c bills for the summertime in the valley.

:: continuing the whine fest:: and.... and... I had to put another blanket on my bed! (Do you feel sorry for me yet? LOL)

[asphaltcowboi]

:: continuing the whine fest:: and.... and... I had to put another blanket on my bed! (Do you feel sorry for me yet? LOL)



ok.. yes ill feel sorry.. but i think ill feel more sorry when that 6weeks of 110 or better hits next summer!

[QueenofSmirks]

ok.. yes ill feel sorry.. but i think ill feel more sorry when that 6weeks of 110 or better hits next summer!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[asphaltcowboi]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



aww sorry... guess ya'll will just have to come up this way to visit when summer hits!! ill show you all around laughlin (casinos) and the fun stuff on the colo. river! that is when im home during the summer time.. i like to make my road trips to L.A.,Rocky Point Mx. and where ever my bike wants to take me when the weather is nice everywhere!

[QueenofSmirks]

aww sorry... guess ya'll will just have to come up this way to visit when summer hits!! ill show you all around laughlin (casinos) and the fun stuff on the colo. river! that is when im home during the summer time.. i like to make my road trips to L.A.,Rocky Point Mx. and where ever my bike wants to take me when the weather is nice everywhere!

I look forward to it! I've never been to Laughlin!!

[Soft*Silver]

She is in a kill shelter. I have people ready to come get her and take her into foster care and then into a permanent home but time is running out for her. THey give them 4 days and our rescue doesnt have a local person there. Can someone spring her? I can get funds raised to reimburse you. We would be able to get her in about a week. She is a beautiful newfie mix.

Please help her. Let me know ASAP if you can help us help this girl...

[Soft*Silver]

..............bump

[asphaltcowboi]

She is in a kill shelter. I have people ready to come get her and take her into foster care and then into a permanent home but time is running out for her. THey give them 4 days and our rescue doesnt have a local person there. Can someone spring her? I can get funds raised to reimburse you. We would be able to get her in about a week. She is a beautiful newfie mix.

Please help her. Let me know ASAP if you can help us help this girl...
im 20 mins from bull head city..is she in the shelter there?

[QueenofSmirks]

Hi all! Our little group is growing, so I thought I'd throw this out there again for anyone interested in joining... If anyone would like to join the Arizona Butch, Femme, Trans group, please email or PM your email address to me and I'll send you an invite. You can also join by going to Yahoo Groups and searching for AZBFT or go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AZBFT/

At our last gathering (last week) we discussed a trip to Casa Grande to meet up with our peeps in Tucson. I know December is out of the question, and frankly, January is already filling up for me. So I'd like to propose a Saturday or Sunday in February. Who's interested???

[friskyfemme]

Hi all! Our little group is growing, so I thought I'd throw this out there again for anyone interested in joining... If anyone would like to join the Arizona Butch, Femme, Trans group, please email or PM your email address to me and I'll send you an invite. You can also join by going to Yahoo Groups and searching for AZBFT or go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AZBFT/

At our last gathering (last week) we discussed a trip to Casa Grande to meet up with our peeps in Tucson. I know December is out of the question, and frankly, January is already filling up for me. So I'd like to propose a Saturday or Sunday in February. Who's interested???


Hi QoS
It's always good to get together. Jan or Feb will work. :)

[JoSchmooze]

I should be around most of February except for one weekend
when my VFW Post takes a bus trip up to Lauglin.
Please keep me posted. Thanks!!

:cigar2::cigar2::cigar2:

[QueenofSmirks]

Ok I'm proposing a get together in Casa Grande February 12 or 13 (note: that is the weekend before Valentine's in case that matters to anyone).

Who's interested???

[asphaltcowboi]

hey casa grande in feb sounds like fun hope i can make it..
were covered in snow up north this morning come an get me!!
hey ill be down in the tolleson area wed. this week anyone up for coffee?

[QueenofSmirks]

hey casa grande in feb sounds like fun hope i can make it..
were covered in snow up north this morning come an get me!!
hey ill be down in the tolleson area wed. this week anyone up for coffee?

Coffee Wednesday -- It would depend on the time, but yes, I'm up for it! :)

Casa Grande -- depends on if our Tucson peeps want to go... if not, we'll stay local :)

[QueenofSmirks]

I don't know if the Casa Grande thing is going to work out for February - none of the three peeps that live in Tucson have been around much lately, and my calendar is filling up very quickly.

In other news, some of us are planning a weekender to Laughlin - so please post here or PM me to let me know if you're interested. I won't be posting specific details here (just for the sake of privacy), but some preliminary things will be posted here. We're planning to go May 7 and 8 - still working on other details.

Hope you'll join us! :)

[Lillie]

hello fellow arizonians!...happy monday to all of ya!~.....have a blessed day!:bunchflowers:

[asphaltcowboi]

Coffee Wednesday -- It would depend on the time, but yes, I'm up for it! :)

Casa Grande -- depends on if our Tucson peeps want to go... if not, we'll stay local :)

aww sorry i missed your reply!! i ended up working until 1130 that night anyway
interesting song

c3hRWLUWQNI

[QueenofSmirks]

We've picked new dates for the Laughlin trip - May 21 & 22! Details are forthcoming - please let me know if you're interested in joining us! :)

[asphaltcowboi]

We've picked new dates for the Laughlin trip - May 21 & 22! Details are forthcoming - please let me know if you're interested in joining us! :)


lmao im going to wait until they stop changing dates befor im say anymore!
you guys dont post much here or i dont see it.. you must be busy with the other az thing

[Michi]

Greetings from Prescott Valley! <3

[friskyfemme]

Greetings from Prescott Valley! <3
Hi Michi,
Nice to meet you. I moved from Prescott 2yrs ago. How are you?

We do get together for lunch occassionally.

If your interested in the Phoenix Trans and SOFFA group, send me a private message and I'll give you meeting location and datefor meetings.

[QueenofSmirks]

lmao im going to wait until they stop changing dates befor im say anymore!
you guys dont post much here or i dont see it.. you must be busy with the other az thing

Nah, not really busy with the other AZ thing, there just isn't much going on in this thread :)

[asphaltcowboi]

Nah, not really busy with the other AZ thing, there just isn't much going on in this thread :)



my new year res was to try to be more social this year so im trying to make any of the get togethers i can..but ive been doing alot of running back and forth to no. calif doing family stuff so i never know when ill be here or there. plus ive had to make 2 trips to wyo.. im trying to seel a piece of land up there.. sheeez its almost to the point of give away. i might sit on it for a few years.

[QueenofSmirks]

my new year res was to try to be more social this year so im trying to make any of the get togethers i can..but ive been doing alot of running back and forth to no. calif doing family stuff so i never know when ill be here or there. plus ive had to make 2 trips to wyo.. im trying to seel a piece of land up there.. sheeez its almost to the point of give away. i might sit on it for a few years.

Well I think May 21/ 22 is pretty set only because that's the one weekend we could all agree on! LOL There is literally no other weekend between now and then that worked for the others (in my poker group).

I still need to look into hotel details but will post that info on the AZBFT yahoo group as soon as I can! :)

Hope you'll be able to join us, but I certainly understand trying to coordinate social events around other life stuff - I have the same issue! :)

[asphaltcowboi]

Well I think May 21/ 22 is pretty set only because that's the one weekend we could all agree on! LOL There is literally no other weekend between now and then that worked for the others (in my poker group).

I still need to look into hotel details but will post that info on the AZBFT yahoo group as soon as I can! :)

Hope you'll be able to join us, but I certainly understand trying to coordinate social events around other life stuff - I have the same issue! :)



if im home ill make it!!!

[QueenofSmirks]

We have 7 possible people so far! We haven't decided where to stay yet, but rates for Saturday night range from the Aquarius $65/night to Tropicana Express or Golden Nugget for $80/night.

Newcomers: Please PM or email me if you'd like to join us! :)

[QueenofSmirks]

Anyone want to get together for dinner sometime in the next few weeks? :)

[asphaltcowboi]

Anyone want to get together for dinner sometime in the next few weeks? :)


wish i was closer or had work down there.. guess ill have to wait till the laughlin trip.

[QueenofSmirks]

Hi all!

The Laughlin trip has been cancelled; however, we are FIRM on our trip to Vegas for May 28 - 31 (Memorial Day weekend)! I will be posting details on the AZBFT yahoo group, so please look there if interested, or PM me, or send an email to me at queenofsmirks@msn.com.

Hope you can join us! :)

(If you'd like to join the AZBFT list, go to Yahoo Groups and search for it, or email or PM me)

[QueenofSmirks]

The thread is so quiet lately! What is everyone up to??? I've been very busy but good stuff!

I'd love to get together for lunch some weekend coming up soon! Who's in???

[asphaltcowboi]

good morning az peeps.. weve had snow a few times up here been busy staying warm. i removed some trees from my lot last week ..they were growing to close to the house. then ive been working on some wiring on my bike..adding some nite glow lights to my harley.. lol then learning how to drive my new side car bike... my dog love it!!! lol once he realized the side car stays with the bike and he doesnt have to sit on my lap. oh and REBA will be at laughlin march 11th!

[Michi]

The thread is so quiet lately! What is everyone up to??? I've been very busy but good stuff!


I here... in Prescott but I am here. <3

=m

[friskyfemme]

I here... in Prescott but I am here. <3

=m
Hey everyone,

I have been 'snowed under with work' (lol-Phoenix humor). I would love to get together some weekend day for lunch. I will be busy from now thru first weekend in April with family coming and vacation. Let's talk.
Michi...can you make it down? Whadda about our Tuscon members?

[friskyfemme]

good morning az peeps.. weve had snow a few times up here been busy staying warm. i removed some trees from my lot last week ..they were growing to close to the house. then ive been working on some wiring on my bike..adding some nite glow lights to my harley.. lol then learning how to drive my new side car bike... my dog love it!!! lol once he realized the side car stays with the bike and he doesnt have to sit on my lap. oh and REBA will be at laughlin march 11th!
Cody,

You might just have to drive ur hot lil harley n ur cute lil dog over to Phx for a visit!

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey everyone,

I have been 'snowed under with work' (lol-Phoenix humor). I would love to get together some weekend day for lunch. I will be busy from now thru first weekend in April with family coming and vacation. Let's talk.
Michi...can you make it down? Whadda about our Tuscon members?

I could do mid-April! :)

[QueenofSmirks]

I feel Summer creeping up!!!!!!

[Ripcurl552005]

My names Layne

I live in Tucson looking to date, make new friends. I am going to get it out in the open now, I am FTM and identify as male with no plans on bottom surgery.

Don't know for sure what my label would be if your in to labels.

~ Layne :hangloose:

[Lillie]

Labels are for soup cans! :) welcome Layne..

if ya'll live in the valley you enjoyed that amazing breezy cool easter sunday...it was marvelous!,,,

So when is the next get together? if its local enough for me I can make it..I would love to meet some new family..

Have a great monday all!

Lillie:rrose:

[QueenofSmirks]

Welcome Layne!

RE: our next get together - our last 3 have fallen through :(

I'm up for meeting in Phoenix, but if our Tucson people want to meet up, I know a few of us said we're willing to meet somewhere half way, so ... who's up for it? When? Where???

[friskyfemme]

Welcome Layne,

I'm in Phx. Hope we can get together soon.

[friskyfemme]

Hey Steph,

Sorry I have dropped off the face of the planet (pun intended...LOL). I have had a boat load of personal commitments. I am going to KC on 6/9 back on 6/15. I am free after that. Would love together. In fact I think BBQ at my house would be great. Who's up for that!?

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey Steph,

Sorry I have dropped off the face of the planet (pun intended...LOL). I have had a boat load of personal commitments. I am going to KC on 6/9 back on 6/15. I am free after that. Would love together. In fact I think BBQ at my house would be great. Who's up for that!?

That would be awesome! And late June is great as I also have a ton of commitments for the remainder of May and early June.

Hope all is well with you... see you soon!

[friskyfemme]

Hey Stephanie,

Everything is good. How is June 25th for everyone? Give me a holler back, so I can get a count of number of guests! Maybe have my pool fixed by then. All of AZBFT is invited.

Looking forwarding to seeing my old acquaintances again and meeting the rest of you too. :)

[QueenofSmirks]

Hey Stephanie,

Everything is good. How is June 25th for everyone? Give me a holler back, so I can get a count of number of guests! Maybe have my pool fixed by then. All of AZBFT is invited.

Looking forwarding to seeing my old acquaintances again and meeting the rest of you too. :)

Works for me!

[ruffryder]

Hi everybody. I've been considering a move to the Phoenix area in a few months can anyone direct me to sites for house/apt rentals and jobs? I have experience in food sales, human resources, training, customer service, quality control and am in school for crime and psychology. Any other suggestions, advice, websites? Thanks.

[JoSchmooze]

Hi everybody. I've been considering a move to the Phoenix area in a few months can anyone direct me to sites for house/apt rentals and jobs? I have experience in food sales, human resources, training, customer service, quality control and am in school for crime and psychology. Any other suggestions, advice, websites? Thanks.

All you need to do is Google "Arizona"
or "Phoenix" and it should give you all the info you need.
Personnaly though, I'd rather be in Tucson,
It has a "small town feel", but has everything you need
or could want. Plus you can get almost anywhere - mountains
or beach, Vegas, etc in a reasonavble amount of time.

When you get here - welcome to Arizona!

[QueenofSmirks]

Hi everybody. I've been considering a move to the Phoenix area in a few months can anyone direct me to sites for house/apt rentals and jobs? I have experience in food sales, human resources, training, customer service, quality control and am in school for crime and psychology. Any other suggestions, advice, websites? Thanks.

Yay! We need more BFPers in Phoenix!! I moved here last September from New Jersey, but actually grew up in Colorado :)

Please feel free to PM me if you want to chat.

I recommend www.rent.com for apartments; that's how I found mine, and I absolutely LOVE IT! But in addition to rent.com, after you find places you think you want to look at, I recommend doing a yahoo or google search for reviews of the apartment complex. I found them to be invaluable. Also, stay away from private owners renting their houses or condos out - many of them are in foreclosure and I've heard several horror stories from people being evicted without notice (a guy in my office has had this happen twice in the past year).

For jobs - there is a local website called Jobing.com. I haven't looked at it; I transferred here with my company, so it's one of the things I didn't have to look for. There is also Craigslist of course, Monster.com, etc.

I can tell you, for me personally, I am loving the weather here so far, although we're getting ready for the Summer blast but I'll take that over SNOW any day!

Depending on what you like and dislike about Colorado, you may or may not like Phoenix. I would say the pace is a reminscent of parts of Colorado; Phoenix is spread out like Denver but less populated. There are mountains on all sides which is just beautiful.

What things do you like to do for fun?

I am making my first trip to Vegas since living here - 4.5 hour drive from my apartment (in North Phoenix).. woo hoo! I can't wait!!

Please let me know if there is anything I can help you with :)

[friskyfemme]

Hi ruffryder,
I am a member of the Phoenix Trans/Soffa group. I will private message you the contact email for that. In addition, there is a 'safe house' here for trans. I can also give you that info privately if your interested. check out www.azstatejobs.gov. Come on down! I have BBQ scheduled for 6/25.
:)

[friskyfemme]

Hi there Jo,
Hope all is well with you. Good to see you online. It would be good to see ya again. Hope ou can make iup for my BBQ 6/25.

Take Care.

[msW8ing]

Wow..it's been over two months since anyone has posted on this thread. Is there anyone out there?? lol

[TeflonButch]

:cowboy:
Hey there fellow Arizonans!
Just wanted to say a big HOWDY to you all and I miss my home state an awful lot. I'm from Flagstaff/Sedona area and moved out of state over a year ago. I'll be back home to stay for more than a visit when the time is right. Until then, thanks for taking care of my home while I'm away. :cowboihorse:
Tef
:devil:

[betenoire]

I read about this today, and while I obviously cannot go I thought I'd share it with the AZ people here who may be interested.

Feminist Theory and Music Conference (http://ftm11.events.asu.edu/)

Looks interesting. If you go let me know how it was. :)

[msW8ing]

These dances are a blast!!!!!! Hope to see everyone there.


http://www.hotflashdances.com/

[msW8ing]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy *doing the happy, giddy, lustful, OMG she's amazing..femme dance...I'm soooooooooooo going.

http://www.songkick.com/artists/56845-melissa-ferrick

[Scrappy L'il Southpaw]

Howdy from GA. I'm posting in the AZ site because I travel to AZ for work on a regular basis. I'm always looking for some femme friendly activity where I can be myself and not be in professional mode the whole time.

I'll check you all out when I'm coming to town. I love that some of you are posting links about local happenings.

I'll see you mid-October!!!!

[Scrappy L'il Southpaw]

I thought I posted.

I'll be in Arizona for a short one October 18th-20th. Anybody want to gather on Thursday the 19th?

I did notice that someone had a birthday that day... What say ye?

[QueenofSmirks]

Happy Holidays, fellow AZers!

Should we try to get together for coffee or a casual lunch in Phoenix sometime soon??? Or... maybe Harrah's in Maricopa on a Saturday???

[MasterWolf]

Greetings

I moved out here to the Phoenix area about 4 months ago. Would be interested in coffee get togethers etc., but I'm out by Mesa/Chandler/Tempe area.

peace

Wolf

[QueenofSmirks]

Greetings

I moved out here to the Phoenix area about 4 months ago. Would be interested in coffee get togethers etc., but I'm out by Mesa/Chandler/Tempe area.

peace

Wolf

Welcome! Where did you move from? I moved about a year and 4 months ago from New Jersey.

The thread has been quiet, not much activity anyway but maybe we can get something going! :)

[Peach]

Just got home from two weeks in AZ! Tempe/Mesa, and then Tucson. Wish I ws still there, its COLD here at home!

[QueenofSmirks]

Not that I'm complaining, but this morning's 49 degrees felt cold to me! I'm looking forward to no-jacket weather! :)

[friskyfemme]

Hi QOS,

It's been awhile. What are you up to these days? I am still here in Phoenix.
Maybe we can get together sometime.

[The Oopster]

looks like i might have some work in the Prescott National Forest sometime from now til May. anyone in that area?

[QueenofSmirks]

Hi QOS,

It's been awhile. What are you up to these days? I am still here in Phoenix.
Maybe we can get together sometime.

Hiya! Sooo busy with work and school, but would love to get together. Maybe a few other BFPers would like to join us??

[QueenofSmirks]

looks like i might have some work in the Prescott National Forest sometime from now til May. anyone in that area?

Not sure how far that is from Phoenix, but you could always come see us :)

[friskyfemme]

This week I am off on Friday. Maybe is ya want we could get together in the evening for coffee or somethin. Whatcha think?

[QueenofSmirks]

This week I am off on Friday. Maybe is ya want we could get together in the evening for coffee or somethin. Whatcha think?

Next couple of weeks is rough - I'm buried with school work. I'll look at my schedule and get back to you :)

[QueenofSmirks]

Here comes the HEAT! ::: scream!:::

[QueenofSmirks]

This week I am off on Friday. Maybe is ya want we could get together in the evening for coffee or somethin. Whatcha think?

How about May 8, 10, or 11?

[friskyfemme]

Hey Steph,

I will be at Pride this Sat. May 11th, being a Friday is good. :tea:

Give me a call.

[QueenofSmirks]

I'm in homework hell for the next 2 weeks, then I can wrap my brain around a get together :)

Anyone else wanna join us May 11th?

[Sun]

*BUMP*

Hey All,

I am in Mesa on retreat for a couple of weeks and would love to meet up with some locals. Hit me up if you are interested in getting together.

[Virago]

I might be stopping of in Phoenix on my way to the Half Reunion end of April.

Any one up for a small get together?

[Sun]

I might be stopping of in Phoenix on my way to the Half Reunion end of April.

Any one up for a small get together?

Hi There,

This thread has not been active but there is a nice local community in the area and Phoenix is in general pretty lgbt friendly.

I will be back in CA soon but can put you in touch with some locals when you do head out this way.

Sun