What is the definition for Diesel Dyke?

[Morgan]

My exgirlfriend says she prefers diesel dykes to butches, which I am. She didn't want to go into detail, so I am putting it out there. How masculane is a diesel Dyke and what is the difference between a diesel dyke and a butch?

[Elijah]

No idea what that means to her, anything I said would be speculation.

Additionally, welcome to the Planet, where all varieties are welcome.

[Greyson]

Welcome to the Planet. I concur. Have a conversation with your girlfriend about how she believes Diesel Dyke differs from Butch. Then I would ask, "Why."

Really your identity is for you to say and figure it out. There are many threads on this site that discusses gender. Again, welcome and have some fun too.

[J. Mason]

I am in agreeance with everyone else who has posted ask your ex what her definition is and take it from there but I found this on about.com just for the hell of it.

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/subcultures/g/DieselDyke.htm


to me the link I posted is stereotypical

[Gemme]

Maybe she's very literal and has a thing for truckers.

As mentioned, there's no way for us to be able to give you a definite answer, as all defintions, especially of identity, are subjective.

:welcome: to the Planet, no matter how you got here!

[Apocalipstic]

Could be Lesbian who drives diesel engine car?

There is no way to know exactly except from her, and apparently she does nto want to tell you, or she already would have.

I would take it on the chin and get out there and meet someone who likes you for you.

[tapu]

I think it's a physical type: A butch can be of any proportions, but a diesel dyke is big and powerful body-wise.

[Jess]

Unleaded Dyke here, unless I am in the Beast. Then I am High Test! ( Super Unleaded for those not familiar with the old school terms "Regular or High Test"

I would have to follow suit with other suggestions here regarding asking her what she means, and if your ex- gf prefers a different kind of butch then you may be better off with that relationship being done. You should be "enough" for your partner. Hopefully, you don't feel the need to change who you are to please her ( or anyone else). There are many ways to express yourself and seems like each one has a different name or qualifier these days! Be you and the right match for you will appear one day! Good luck!

Welcome aboard!

[princessbelle]

Welcome to the site!!!

Agrees with everyone here. What your identity means to you, personally, is what is most important.

There are so many different IDs around and they may mean different things to different peeps.

Even with that, some people evolve into others IDs over time or a combination thereof.

Many great readings here on these very topics.

Enjoy and have fun!!!!!

[apretty]

My exgirlfriend says she prefers diesel dykes to butches, which I am. She didn't want to go into detail, so I am putting it out there. How masculane is a diesel Dyke and what is the difference between a diesel dyke and a butch?

Maybe that's how her new girlfriend identifies.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Maybe she's into a look and that's what rock n rolls her desire?

Anyway it's good to see you here!!!

[Quintease]

When I was but a baby dyke I thought diesel dyke = mechanic.

Except loads of my friends turned out to be mechanics and they weren't the least bit butch.

[NorCalStud]

It means living transgendered with a big strength and totally unafraid to walk around with a rack never wanted

[Jess]

It means living transgendered with a big strength and totally unafraid to walk around with a rack never wanted


I would guess not all "diesel dykes" are transgendered. Just a thought.

[dark_crystal]

Maybe she's very literal and has a thing for truckers.

That's all i could come up with, either!

[J. Mason]

I think the label of diesel dyke depends on the person not what some definition says

[Starbuck]

Just off the top of my head, perhaps she wanted you to me more manly or aggressive in nature or to ride a motorcycle as your mode of transportation. Now I ride a motorcycle but that doesn't make me diesel dyke, it's just a mode of transportation I've chosen...who knows. It's just her definition. As others have said, don't go changing who you are to please someone, it'll only make YOU unhappy!

[WolfyOne]

Here's what I found when I did a search

diesel (dyke)
Definition
noun

a lesbian who behaves aggressively and/or has a rough masculine appearance or heavy build. The word, which is pejorative and generally used by men, carries overtones of engineers, engines, trucks and other butch associations and perhaps also refers to the overalls, dungarees, etc. worn by some lesbians. The term originated in the USA but was heard in Britain in the 1980s as a pejorative term and also as a simple descriptive phrase used by lesbians themselves.

[Daywalker]

I don't think that there is a comparison of Masculine that can nor should
be made between Butch and Diesel Dyke. It's an Individual
'setting' of Charisma and energy, etc...not a competition.
:fastdraq:

If she wanted you to feel like that,
then shame on her.

:coffee:

:daywalker:

[TIMBERWOLF]

Well how old is she? Back in my younger Butch days<1973 The big tough, hard drinking,beat you up in a heart beat were called Diesel Dykes and they usually had a knife in the pocket to back it up. I haven't heard that phase in like 40 yrs.They also HATED men with a passion or the ones I knew did.
TIMBER


My exgirlfriend says she prefers diesel dykes to butches, which I am. She didn't want to go into detail, so I am putting it out there. How masculane is a diesel Dyke and what is the difference between a diesel dyke and a butch?

[Glenn]

I heard a diesel engine is stronger and lasts longer, and gets more miles per gallon. Regular engines have a lower compression ratio than a diesel, meaning diesels have more power. Their ignition is not generated by a spark but by intense heat. Takes um a while to get warmed up but once they are...they can go all night long. Rudolf Diesel was a German, and I think Dyke is a Dutch name.:|

[Toughy]

I think I must be one..........although more so when I was in my 20's when cowboys would yell that at me while they beat baseball bats on the side of the big ass trucks.....

:toypony:

[NorCalStud]

I will qualify my response. To all of us in San jose in the.seventies...we were very much transgendered in dress. We never thot of top surgery. Dies was a nickname for me. I suppose we can play with semantics. In the fifties in california and america..it was just as said. Definately pejorative for a minute but you know diesal dykes..they ameliorated that word magically being themselves

[NorCalStud]

I plan to represent at the reunion which is a first time event for me and mine.

[kannon]

I am in agreeance with everyone else who has posted ask your ex what her definition is and take it from there but I found this on about.com just for the hell of it.

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/subcultures/g/DieselDyke.htm


to me the link I posted is stereotypical

Wow. I've dated a couple of hasbians.

And I thought hasbians was only for breakfast.

[J. Mason]

Wow. I've dated a couple of hasbians.

And I thought hasbians was only for breakfast.

Oh yes the hasbians!

[msW8ing]

IMHO...In my neck of the woods. Back in my younger days many many years ago. I dated a few "Deisel Dykes" For me it was thier masculine energy. It wasn't just how fricken hawt they looked..but it was the confidence,cockiness the whole energy they put out there. Nobody f*cked with them and if they did well let me just say they regreted it. They were James Dean/Marlon Brando, pistol/knife carrying,cock packing,truck driving, cow branding, horse breaking,construction working,mechanical, tough, strong,taking care of thier business Dykes. And very proud of who they were. I didn't witness any sort of abusive behaviour from anyone of them. They took care of thier family and friends. Protected them with thier lives. I don't know when the word Dyke became taboo to some. Personally being from the Old School back when..When someone ID's as Dyke it's celebration time. I in no way am saying that any other ID is wrong. I'm really glad that our community is so large and out there that anyone can ID as to what suits them and thier inner self. Nobody should ever be put into a one size fits all box. Diversity is what makes the world go around. As for you ex..well sounds to me like it was a weak excuse to not have to own up to her own personal issues.

[*Anya*]

My ex used to laughingly, lovingly call herself a diesel dyke. To her it was old school, embracing of a phrase used to put down very butch women back in the 60's (and later) when she first came out.

She was proud of how butch she was and I loved it. She was/is a very gentle soul regardless and never beat anyone up; nor did she carry weapons. She was strong as hell though & based on her appearance; no one ever fucked with her.

[dark_crystal]

They were James Dean/Marlon Brando, pistol/knife carrying,cock packing,truck driving, cow branding, horse breaking,construction working,mechanical, tough, strong,taking care of thier business Dykes.

http://pattyfroese.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/swooning-300x204.jpg
(swooon)

[sarahwho]

This is what I've read about them:

"Diesel Dyke

A lady (often quite large,) that prefers the (very) close company of other ladies, known as femmes. Regularly seen wearing a lumberjack shirt, boots and dungarees/bib & braces overalls.

Origin: Due to the normal extreme mass of these 'ladies,' it has often been assumed that locomotion could only be facilitated with the assistance of a powerful Diesel engine.

See also Clamjouster, Mingeeta, Plaid-clad Whale and Rugmuncher

The kind of lesbian women who is stronger and tougher then most men.
That diesel dyke knocked that guy out cold."

My take - she wanted to break up, and found that if she could ditz (sp?) you with something you didn't understand, you wouldn't argue. My opinion only of course.

[Sparx1_1]

Where I come from (small town) Diesel Dyke was a reference to every bad lesbian stereotype and was used as an insult by gay and straight alike. It was most often used to describe a small group of local dykes who were for the most part unemployed alcoholics who were very rough and generally unpleasant people.

[Tawse]

When I identified as a Diesel Dyke it was cause I was dyke identified (at the time).. and a diesel mechanic.

A literal interpretation of the phrase...