Herbalism

[Medusa]

Part of my New Years promise to myself this year was to start incorporating more natural herbal alternatives into my health routine to replace OTC meds.

So here's a thread to talk about all things herbal! (NO, Not 420!)


Do any of you take valerian root to sleep? or is there something more affective?

[Violette]

Calcium, magnesium, and iodine blend supplement has worked well for me for sleeping. Valerian root didn't work for me, but others I have known have had success with it.

Also, depending on what is keeping me up, reading spiritually based literature has helped me fall asleep.

Meditation has also helped me fall asleep. Often, I use a combination of all of the above.

[Gráinne]

I don't know if melatonin is considered an herb, but I use it occasionally for insomnia with my doctor's blessing.

[Smiling]

Part of my New Years promise to myself this year was to start incorporating more natural herbal alternatives into my health routine to replace OTC meds.

So here's a thread to talk about all things herbal! (NO, Not 420!)


Do any of you take valerian root to sleep? or is there something more affective?


Hi Medusa,
If you are having trouble sleeping, be sure you aren't mineral deficient. That makes a huge difference, believe it or not. Valerian root is okay in my experience, but it didn't really make any appreciable difference in my insomnia.

By the way, it can be addictive. Please take care with the amount you use as well as how often.

A few years ago, I was lucky to have a kinesiologist work on me. He really honed right in on my problem areas just like a laser beam. I found his subsequent nutritional recommendations as well as his suggested vitamin and mineral regimen to be superlative.

Of course, like anything, you need to really look into the background of your practitioners as well as their experience level. YMMV, but if you have someone reputable in your area, it is a great thing to do for yourself.


Great thread! :)

[Julie]

I take a number of natural remedies and herbs. But for sleep.
I used Dr. Dave's Best *Sleep Wizard* and it is amazing.

It contains Suntheanine, Gaba, Melatonin and 5-HTP.

What I have found about this little miracle worker (for me). If I only get 4 hours sleep, I don't have brain fog and I don't get cranky. The longer I take it, the more sleep I am getting. I wake up feeling rested, regardless of the hours slept. Last night I got 8 hours and I am going through menopause, so sleep does not come easy.

Julie

[Medusa]

Hey Huge-Smile!

It's actually for Jackhammer - Her work hours are crazy so she isn't really able to have a sleep schedule and I suspect that is the biggest culprit. While I only need 5 hours of sleep to function, she needs closer to 7 or 8 and sometimes her work schedule is such that she only gets 4 or 5 at the most.

She has done the ZQuil sleep stuff (which is basically just diphenhydramine) and Melatonin and several other herbal remedies and all have mild success for a short period of time.

Thanks for the head's up on valerian being addictive! I had no idea!

[Smiling]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/marek-doyle/help-me-sleep-magnesium-secret-to-sleep-problems_b_3311795.html


:)

[DapperButch]

I am a STRONG believer that inflammation in our bodies is the root of most diseases. If there was only one herb/supplement I was allowed to take, it would be turmeric/curcumin.

Oh, and drink lots of water to get rid of toxins. That is free!

[DapperButch]

Part of my New Years promise to myself this year was to start incorporating more natural herbal alternatives into my health routine to replace OTC meds.

So here's a thread to talk about all things herbal! (NO, Not 420!)


Do any of you take valerian root to sleep? or is there something more affective?

I think it is great that you are looking for natural sources for sleep. OTC for sleep can be so addictive. I have heard valerian root to help some people. I did not know it was additive, as Huge-Smile said, which is interesting. The best thing we can do for sleep is to go to bed at the same time every night. It sounds like that is not an option for Jack, so that makes it so much worse.

[Uli]

Valerian gave me crazy nightmares. Melatonin works great so long as I don't take it too many nights in a row.

I have itchy skin issues, so I just switch between Benadryl and Melatonin when I can't sleep. Both of them will stop working well if I take them every night.

Thankfully, I can fall asleep on my own at least half the time.

[easygoingfemme]

Valerian has given me crazy nightmares too.

My daughter takes melatonin once in a while. She says it doesn't work, but I think she sleeps a little better with it.

I find Magnesium is great for quieting the mind and body. When I am taking it regularly, which I try to do when I am in PMS mode when everything is just kind of uptight, I sleep and feel better.

Skullcap is good both for headaches and as a relaxation aid/sleep aid.

Rescue Remedy for anxiety/relaxation

My daughter and I both use red raspberry leaf and find it really helps regulate hers, and shorten both of our menstrual cycles.

Ginger and or peppermint for stomach ache issues. Either as a tea, or rub some of the oil on your belly.

Lavender for calming.

Turmeric indeed for inflammation. We have also used it in wound care. Make a paste out of it and put on open area.

Echinacea for boosting the immune system. Tea or a tincture if you are fighting or trying to prevent something.

Tea tree as anti-bacterial topical, also good for "blemishes"

Eucalyptus in a hot steam vaporizer for congestion

So... that's kind of what my medicine chest looks like :)

It would be good to also learn about homeopathic remedies. Many of them can come in handy when you have them around!

[Medusa]

I have a tincture brewing right now that has some chamomile, lavender, lotus leaf, and passion flower. It has to steep for a couple of weeks but I'm excited to see how it turns out.

Tea tree oil is truly amazing as well! I love putting couple of drops of it in my shampoo and for spot acne treatment. I read that it's also good for athlete's foot and crusty feet! LOL

[Soft*Silver]

Sweet Annie was often placed over tops of cribs to help babies sleep better, but it can have a reaction with some people. Mostly dermal but some can breath it in. It is extremely calming and worth exploring.

[Smiling]

Excerpted from: http://wellnessmama.com/5804/how-to-make-your-own-magnesium-oil/



How To Make Your Own Magnesium Oil


[....]Every cell in the body needs magnesium in some way, and it is vital for bone, tooth, muscle, and joint health as well as for optimal sleep and stress reduction.

Deficiency of magnesium is widespread because many of us have lifestyle factors that actively deplete magnesium such as lack of sleep, excess stress, or alcohol/caffeine/sugar consumption. On top of that, many natural sources of magnesium are becoming depleted (such as the soil due to over-farming and high pesticide use) and water filtration systems remove much of the naturally occurring magnesium in water.

The ocean is still a wonderful source of magnesium and trace minerals, but for those of us who don’t have daily access to a beach, transdermal magnesium oil can be the easiest and most effective way to increase magnesium levels. I’ve recently seen some research that adequate magnesium can do everything from reduce stress to improve sleep and even eliminate morning sickness!
[....]

What you need:

1/2 cup Magnesium Chloride Flakes
1/2 cup distilled water
A glass bowl or glass measuring cup
A glass spray bottle (plastic will work too)
What to do:

Boil the distilled water. It is important to use distilled to extend the shelf life of the mixture. Put the Magnesium Chloride Flakes in the glass bowl or measuring cup and the pour the bowling water over it.

Stir well until completely dissolved. Let cool completely and store in the spray bottle. Can be stored at room temperature for at least six months. I keep in my bathroom to use daily.

To Use:

Spray on arms, legs, and stomach daily. I use 10-20 sprays per day. It will tingle on the skin the first few times it is used, and this is normal. It should fade after a few applications, but you can dilute with more water if it bothers you too much.

You can leave on the skin or wash off after 20-30 minutes. I usually apply after a shower and then use coconut oil or a lotion bar to moisturize about 5 minutes later.





As I sit here after yet another sleepless night, I've decided that I'm going to make this spray. I thought I would share with anyone else who might be interested in trying this. I like the idea of transdermal absorption rather than swallowing a pill. Just my preference; you may feel differently. :)

[Nat]

Nettle tea makes me feel well-rested, well and less depressed

[Rugged]

I have nothing to add, but I want to thank everyone
For the helpful info

[Martina]

Suntheanine by itself is a good anti-anxiety treatment. Again, by itself, it does not sedate, but does give a little bit of relief for anxiety. It's one of the few herbals that I have found to be helpful for any issue.

My health is not good now, but when I exercise, meditate, drink water, eat little sugar and flour -- and, most importantly, sleep well -- I get a lot better.

[ahk]

I believe what you put in your body is how your body will react.

If you eat crap, you'll feel like crap.

We (my wife and I) eat so much better than we ever did before. For the past 4 months, we've been eating the lifestyle of Primal/Paleo/Low Carb/High Healthy fats. We basically have cut out refined sugars, all wheat products, most grains (sometimes a quinoa salad sneaks in or a few corn chips), cut back on potatoes, not much rice and just eat more "real" food. If you can't pronounce the ingredient, I doubt you should be eating it. The more research you do, the more you find out what's good for you and what's not good for you. A lot of food causes a lot of issues-- acne, migraines, arthritis, sleep issues, weight gain, inflammation, high blood sugar, high blood pressure, thyroid issues... etc, etc.

We also believe in herbs and vitamins and minerals. We visit the acupuncturists once a week for a 2 hr treatment.

We take vitamin D, which is good for many things, its key role in regulation and differentiation of immune system cells, and it supports cardiovascular health and normal functioning of the nervous system. And if you have an upper respiratory cold taking a few extra a day helps.

Magnesium helps in so many ways-- as others have described above. Plays a role in your body's detoxification processes, and helps prevent sudden cardiac arrest and stroke.

Zinc accelerates the activity of approximately 100 different body enzymes, promotes immune function to fight illness, supports healthy cell growth and development and ensures proper sense of taste and smell just to name a few.

Omega 3s.
Vitamin C with grapeseed oil.

We use rescue remedy to calm our nerves and help us at night to rest. Just a few drops under the tongue helps a good night sleep. We also brew a good night tea that is full of wonderful herbs (Organic chamomile flower, skullcap herb, catnip herb, linden flower, peppermint, stevia, spearmint, passion flower lemon balm, lemon grass, lavender).

I'm sure there is more-- but this is all I can think of now. Great thread, btw. I look forward to hearing others recommendations and stories.

[joyfulfemme]

Hello Medusa ~s

Before adding things to the body, try eliminating some....Insomnia can be a side effect of a food allergy/sensitivity. Look into elimination food plans. Should you need more info, I'll be happy to share.

joy ~s

[Medusa]

And while we're at it, I read up on apple cider vinegar and all of the supposed health benefits. One of my girlfriends also said she had success with it for inflammation.
I have been taking a tablespoon in the morning and a tablespoon at night and I swear I feel like my knees are happier. I also seem to feel less bloat in the stomach area. Don't know if this is psychosomatic or what but it's cool nonetheless.

Anyone else tried it or have a vinegar routine they'd be willing to share?

[ahk]

My wife uses it as a face toner. 1 part avc 1water.

[Medusa]

My wife uses it as a face toner. 1 part avc 1water.

Yes! That was the other thing I read about and have been doing the last couple of nights! I also have an Aztec clay mask thing that I mixed with it and my face was smooth as a baby's butt when I washed it all off.

Trying to phase out all of my skin products that are not natural and switch to things like lemons as a chemical-free facial peel and ACV is definitely on my list of faves so far :)

[DapperButch]

And while we're at it, I read up on apple cider vinegar and all of the supposed health benefits. One of my girlfriends also said she had success with it for inflammation.
I have been taking a tablespoon in the morning and a tablespoon at night and I swear I feel like my knees are happier. I also seem to feel less bloat in the stomach area. Don't know if this is psychosomatic or what but it's cool nonetheless.

Anyone else tried it or have a vinegar routine they'd be willing to share?

1/2 cup apple cider vinegar to one gallon of water. Soak your non organic fruits and vegetables for 15 minutes. Significantly reduces pesticides. You have to be careful with soft fruits like strawberries. They can get waterlogged. Reduce the amount of time, if needed.

As an aside, apples carry more pesticides than any other fruit.

Take Tumeric/Cucumin capsules to reduce inflammation throughout the whole body.

[Medusa]

1/2 cup apple cider vinegar to one gallon of water. Soak your non organic fruits and vegetables for 10 minutes. Significantly reduces pesticides. As an aside, apples carry more pesticides than any other fruit.

Take Tumeric/Cucumin capsules to reduce inflammation throughout the whole body.


Oooh! GREAT tip! I've seen those vegetable washes at the grocery store and always kinda tilted my head at spraying more shit on the fruit to get the pesticides off but I LOVE hearing I can use vinegar to clean the veggies and fruits!

And for turmeric! Ok, so Julie gave me some turmeric at the Reunion and I totally made fun of her and myself and referred to that as "the diarrhea pill" all weekend! But I have to admit, I recently ordered a pound of turmeric powder and a capsule-making thing because I felt amazing after the diarrhea pill at Reunion.
Reading up on it, it is apparently part of the ginger family?! And apparently you can also make paste for skin disorders like psoriases and chicken pox? Pretty amazing to say the least!

[DapperButch]

Oooh! GREAT tip! I've seen those vegetable washes at the grocery store and always kinda tilted my head at spraying more shit on the fruit to get the pesticides off but I LOVE hearing I can use vinegar to clean the veggies and fruits!

And for turmeric! Ok, so Julie gave me some turmeric at the Reunion and I totally made fun of her and myself and referred to that as "the diarrhea pill" all weekend! But I have to admit, I recently ordered a pound of turmeric powder and a capsule-making thing because I felt amazing after the diarrhea pill at Reunion.
Reading up on it, it is apparently part of the ginger family?! And apparently you can also make paste for skin disorders like psoriases and chicken pox? Pretty amazing to say the least!

Medusa, I am telling you, tumeric is the way to go. Inflammation is truly the root of all diseases (cancer). Glad to hear you are going to start taking it (make Jack, too!). Yes, I heard about the paste, as well. :-)

[Novelafemme]

Hi Medusa,
If you are having trouble sleeping, be sure you aren't mineral deficient. That makes a huge difference, believe it or not. Valerian root is okay in my experience, but it didn't really make any appreciable difference in my insomnia.

By the way, it can be addictive. Please take care with the amount you use as well as how often.

A few years ago, I was lucky to have a kinesiologist work on me. He really honed right in on my problem areas just like a laser beam. I found his subsequent nutritional recommendations as well as his suggested vitamin and mineral regimen to be superlative.

Of course, like anything, you need to really look into the background of your practitioners as well as their experience level. YMMV, but if you have someone reputable in your area, it is a great thing to do for yourself.


Great thread! :)

I am not sure where you got your information on Valerian Root being addictive, but as a former Health & Beauty Aids buyer for our local health food co-operative, this is news to me.

Valerian root is appropriate for those suffering from mild anxiety and sleeplessness related to menopause/hormonal fluctuations/depression, etc.

That being said, if you are on prescription meds for any of the above, there very well may be contraindicational information that you may want to look in to.

If you drink alcoholic beverages on a regular basis, Valerian can impact your liver/kidney function in a negative manner. When I was having daily panic attacks and taking large doses at night to help me sleep, I noticed a yellowing of my iris' which is an indicator that one's liver/kidneys are being compromised.

As with *any* supplement/additive, when taken for long periods of time, when suddenly discontinued, side-effects can be quite noticeable. Titrating is always the best method, unless otherwise directed by a doctor.

[Medusa]

Medusa, I am telling you, tumeric is the way to go. Inflammation is truly the root of all diseases (cancer). Glad to hear you are going to start taking it (make Jack, too!). Yes, I heard about the paste, as well. :-)

I'm believing that more and more!!

This year's New Years Resolutions were different for me on a lot of levels. First, I hate to make "diet" resolutions because I actually like my body the way it is, or at least the size it is so "dieting" for weight loss or beauty has never been a thing for me. I do, however, feel closer to 40 every day and my knees and ankles are pissed off all the time because my luscious fat ass is heavy!

I have been slowly cutting down on white sugar and noticed and immediate difference in how bloated I felt all the time and also how dehydrated I felt. And almost overnight I noticed a difference in how stiff my knees were in the morning .

Also cutting out lots of processed foods and adding supplements and herbal alternatives and after reading up on tumeric and fish oil and vinegar, I'm a believer. I keep going back to thinking about how many people I know who are on prescription drugs for inflammation and joint pain who are also dealing with nasty side effects. That is something I definitely want to avoid!!

[DapperButch]

Sounds fantastic, Medusa. Strongly consider decreasing/getting rid of white flour. Lets say I go get a veggie sub at our deli two days in a row (which is not uncommon). If it is on white bread I am falling alseep on my clients at 1:00pm. If it is on wheat bread, I am good to go! Same sandwich, same ingredients. Different breads.

It really is amazing. That, and not eating dairy makes a big difference in energy level for me. Night and day.

Same with sugar (like you said). Try Agave Nectar. That is what we use. Only other sweetner you should consider is Stevia (Truvia brand is made from stevia).

ETA: A comment on "Fish Oil". Consider buying Omega-3 tablets. "Fish Oil" typically has both Omega 3 and Omega 6. If they are not in the right combinations (which they aren't in most packagings), then it throws the whole game off (and can actually be more harmful than good). Our bodies definitely get enough Omega 6 in foods. Just buy Omega 3 tablets (I recently stole Fish Oil from my mother and replaced it with Omega 3. ha!). It will be right next to the "Fish Oil" in the aisle.

[Medusa]

Sounds fantastic, Medusa. Strongly consider decreasing/getting rid of white flour. Lets say I go get a veggie sub at our deli two days in a row (which is not uncommon). If it is on white bread I am falling alseep on my clients at 1:00pm. If it is on wheat bread, I am good to go! Same sandwich, same ingredients. Different breads.

It really is amazing. That, and not eating dairy makes a big difference in energy level for me. Night and day.

Same with sugar (like you said). Try Agave Nectar. That is what we use. Only other sweetner you should consider is Stevia (Truvia brand is made from stevia).

ETA: A comment on "Fish Oil". Consider buying Omega-3 tablets. "Fish Oil" typically has both Omega 3 and Omega 6. If they are not in the right combinations (which they aren't in most packagings), then it throws the whole game off (and can actually be more harmful than good). Our bodies definitely get enough Omega 6 in foods. Just buy Omega 3 tablets (I recently stole Fish Oil from my mother and replaced it with Omega 3. ha!). It will be right next to the "Fish Oil" in the aisle.


I'll dig out my capsules and post what they are - Julie actually sent them to me for Christmas and they aren't just straight fish oil. They have a bunch of wonderful things in them besides the fish oil :)

[DapperButch]

I'll dig out my capsules and post what they are - Julie actually sent them to me for Christmas and they aren't just straight fish oil. They have a bunch of wonderful things in them besides the fish oil :)

Great. I'm curious.

[easygoingfemme]

Apple Cider Vinegar rules. We use it for many things. I am often saying, when promoting acv, that usually when I meet some really healthy 90something year old, they tell me that their secret is that they drink acv in some form every morning.

My daughter does a fair amount of theater work, which can make for a sore throat. She brings a thermos with her of hot water with raw honey, lemon, and acv in it. Works every time.

We drink the same blend for flu/sore throat/congestion, etc.

Same drink in the morning whenever doing any sort of detox, or just need a pick-me-up.

Copying and pasting a handout I use for work regarding acv:

Apple Cider Vinegar
Minerals and trace elements
Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, Phosphorous, Chlorine, Sodium, Sulfur, Copper, Iron, Silicon, Fluorine.

Vitamins
Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Provitamin beta-carotene, Vitamin P.

Useful in
Well functioning metabolism; Reducing cholesterol (the dangerous LDL cholesterol type); Regulating the water content in the cells and body; Reducing water retention in the body; Reducing excess sodium from the body; Helps with regulating blood pressure; Assists in preventing circulatory problems; Helps with diminishing premature calcification of the arteries; Helps increase concentration and memory; Assists in blood circulation, body temperature as well as vitality and energy.

Arthritis
This condition of inflammation of the joints is a major chronic disease in the West, and is believed to be partly caused by a build-up of toxic wastes in the tissues, causing irritation. It is thought that these metabolic toxic wastes can be contained by eliminating food allergies as well as unhealthy life styles such as smoking, not exercising and being over weight.
Arthritis suffers have reported a positive influence that apple cider vinegar has on the pain experienced as well as slowing down the progression of this disease. Most people using it as a therapy for this problem ingest it four times a day.

Blood pressure
The potassium in apple cider vinegar is said to be beneficial to both the heart and blood pressure, and in some quarters this remedy is said to assist in making the blood thinner, and thereby assisting with blood pressure and in the prevention of a stroke.

Bones
The manganese, magnesium, silicon (and calcium) found in apple cider vinegar has been linked in sustaining bone mass, which is important in the fight against osteoporosis.
A supplement of apple cider vinegar could for this reason be valuable to consider should you suffer from a calcium shortage, have a problem with osteoporosis, or if you are entering your postmenopausal stage, where a risk of bone loss could cause a problem.

Cholesterol
A good warning system for heart disease is the presence of high blood cholesterol in the system. To help prevent this is to follow a lifestyle which includes eating a diet high in fruits and vegetables, maintaining your ideal weight, getting enough exercise while avoiding processed foods, junk foods and hydrogenated oils.
Another way is to add fiber to your diet, especially water-soluble fiber - such as the pectin found in apple cider vinegar. Water-soluble fiber soaks up water, which adds bulk, and interacts with your body, and also keeps on working longer than non water-soluble fiber.
Fiber also soaks up fats and cholesterol in the body and then is excreted instead of being reabsorbed.
Non water-soluble fiber soaks up moisture in the body, but cannot interact with the body. The amino acids contained in apple cider vinegar have also shown promise in neutralizing some of the harmful oxidized LDL cholesterol.

Diabetes
This disease is becoming more and more common, and there may be various reasons for this phenomena, but it must be remembered that it is not only extremely serious, but needs proper medical supervision, and a strict adherence to dietary rules and medication, as prescribed by your medical practitioner. It is however interesting to note that added dietary fiber, such as contained in apple cider vinegar, is beneficial in controlling blood glucose levels.

Fatigue
Lactic acid is released in the body during exercise as well as periods of stress, and this can lead to fatigue, which in turn can be combated by the amino acids contained in apple cider vinegar. The enzymes, as well as the potassium contained in apple cider vinegar can also be of great help in the quest for more energy and vitality.

Heart
Since apple cider vinegar is used to promote the health of veins and capillaries, it is by implication also useful in assisting in the health of the heart and blood pressure. The potassium found in the apple cider vinegar is also beneficial to the heart.

Indigestion
When people start talking about indigestion they immediately start referring to the "excess" stomach acid that they have! In most cases it is NOT a case of an excess of stomach acid, but a shortage of it.
Hydrochloric acid and pepsin, an enzyme working in an acid environment, are needed to break down the food effectively, and a shortage of these two ingredients will lead to a sluggish digestion of food and resultant indigestion. Taking apple cider vinegar may assist in effecting a remedy.



Metabolism
The quest for achieving the ideal weight always will include effective and efficient metabolism. Without it, your dietary intake will not be metabolized correctly, the nutrients will not be available to the body, and will result in excess weight being added to the body frame.
Apple cider vinegar has been used for centuries in aiding the liver to detoxify the body and to help with digesting rich, fatty and greasy foods, and for proper metabolizing of proteins, fats and minerals. If the food cannot be broken down into the absorbable form, the body cannot assimilate the required nutrients needed from the diet.
An added extra to help with this is the malic acid and tartaric acid found in apple cider vinegar, since they help to bring the acid content into balance, while killing off unwanted and unfriendly bacteria in the digestive tract.

Muscles
Lactic acid in muscles is the cause of the muscles feeling sore and stiff, but by adding some apple cider vinegar to your diet, it could assist the body to get rid of it at a faster pace, since it will help to break down the acid crystals, making it much easier to be flushed out the body.

Stiff joints
A shortage of potassium in the body may cause stiff joints. Apple cider vinegar could help in relieving this problem when ingesting it, since it is a good source of the needed nutrient. Another remedy is to relax in a warm tub, with some apple cider vinegar added to the water.

Weight loss
Apple cider vinegar has been used as a weight loss remedy for centuries, and although the mechanics are not always clear on how it works, it really does work.
It has been suggested that the apple cider vinegar works because it makes the body burn calories better, that it reduces the appetite or simply that it gets the entire metabolism working at top efficiency.
But whatever the reason, the fact remains that it has stood the test of time as a fat-busting supplement, and has helped countless people to achieve their ideal weight.

[LaDivina]

I've made this spray, and they aren't kidding about the "tingle" the first few times. It actually stings. Unfortunately, my attention span is such that I haven't used it more than a couple nights in a row because I forget about it, so I can't say how well it works.

Now I have a container of magnesium chloride flakes and would be happy to send 1/2 c to anyone who wants it, but I don't know how they'd travel. LOL

Excerpted from: http://wellnessmama.com/5804/how-to-make-your-own-magnesium-oil/



How To Make Your Own Magnesium Oil


[....]Every cell in the body needs magnesium in some way, and it is vital for bone, tooth, muscle, and joint health as well as for optimal sleep and stress reduction.

Deficiency of magnesium is widespread because many of us have lifestyle factors that actively deplete magnesium such as lack of sleep, excess stress, or alcohol/caffeine/sugar consumption. On top of that, many natural sources of magnesium are becoming depleted (such as the soil due to over-farming and high pesticide use) and water filtration systems remove much of the naturally occurring magnesium in water.

The ocean is still a wonderful source of magnesium and trace minerals, but for those of us who don’t have daily access to a beach, transdermal magnesium oil can be the easiest and most effective way to increase magnesium levels. I’ve recently seen some research that adequate magnesium can do everything from reduce stress to improve sleep and even eliminate morning sickness!
[....]

What you need:

1/2 cup Magnesium Chloride Flakes
1/2 cup distilled water
A glass bowl or glass measuring cup
A glass spray bottle (plastic will work too)
What to do:

Boil the distilled water. It is important to use distilled to extend the shelf life of the mixture. Put the Magnesium Chloride Flakes in the glass bowl or measuring cup and the pour the bowling water over it.

Stir well until completely dissolved. Let cool completely and store in the spray bottle. Can be stored at room temperature for at least six months. I keep in my bathroom to use daily.

To Use:

Spray on arms, legs, and stomach daily. I use 10-20 sprays per day. It will tingle on the skin the first few times it is used, and this is normal. It should fade after a few applications, but you can dilute with more water if it bothers you too much.

You can leave on the skin or wash off after 20-30 minutes. I usually apply after a shower and then use coconut oil or a lotion bar to moisturize about 5 minutes later.





As I sit here after yet another sleepless night, I've decided that I'm going to make this spray. I thought I would share with anyone else who might be interested in trying this. I like the idea of transdermal absorption rather than swallowing a pill. Just my preference; you may feel differently. :)

[Smiling]

Hi Novelafemme,

I hope this will help answer your question. Just some basic stuff I quickly dug up, but similar to what I have come across in reading...

Would an addiction event be a very rare occurrence? Yes, of course; but anytime you are introducing a foreign substance into the body; natural or otherwise- especially one that works on chemical responses in the brain in a similar fashion as many pharmaceutical drugs - I think it is a good idea to just at least be aware of all the potential problems it may create.

Mentioning that Valerian can be (not "is;" small, but important distinction) addictive was just meant as a heads up and not to alarm anyone. :)

See below:

Scientists aren't sure how valerian works, but they believe it increases the amount of a chemical called gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) in the brain. GABA helps regulate nerve cells and has a calming effect on anxiety. Drugs such as alprazolam (Xanax) and diazepam (Valium) also work by increasing the amount of GABA in the brain. Researchers think valerian may have a similar, but weaker effect.
Source: Valerian | University of Maryland Medical Center http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/valerian#ixzz2r8jPkk19
University of Maryland Medical Center
Follow us: @UMMC on Twitter | MedCenter on Facebook


http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/Bree524/aee1f12c-3074-425e-bd90-baf8dbc2a0b5_zpsf50099c4.jpg
Source: http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Articlespdf/Valerian%20Root.pdf


Valerian has an affinity for GABA receptors, likely due to the relatively high GABA content in valerian itself. The amount of GABA present in valerian extract is sufficient to induce release of GABA in synaptosomes and may also inhibit GABA reuptake.

Valerian is used for insomnia and other disorders. Other believed mechanisms of action in valerian include inhibition of the catabolism of GABA by valerenolic acid and acetylvalerenolic acid and affinity for the 5-HTA receptor by another constituent of valerian, called hydroxy pinoresinol.

Valerian side effects may include addiction similar to that which occurs with drugs, reports Medline Plus. Valerian withdrawal has been noted in chronic users: confusion, delirium and rapid heartbeat. Another side effect of valerian use is a drug "hangover," reports Medline Plus.

Valerian has the potential for negative side effects on the heart and liver, according to Aetna Intelihealth. Liver toxicity has occurred with the use of herbal preparations that contain valerian, reports Medline Plus. Also, valerian may interact with anti-seizure medications.
Source: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/599-valerian-root/

[I could not locate the original Medline article containing these quotes, so I used excerpts from a discussion board; not the best source, but I'm not writing a paper, so bear with me]

Hitting submit before I lose this post again. My iPad keeps crashing!


I am not sure where you got your information on Valerian Root being addictive, but as a former Health & Beauty Aids buyer for our local health food co-operative, this is news to me.

Valerian root is appropriate for those suffering from mild anxiety and sleeplessness related to menopause/hormonal fluctuations/depression, etc.

That being said, if you are on prescription meds for any of the above, there very well may be contraindicational information that you may want to look in to.

If you drink alcoholic beverages on a regular basis, Valerian can impact your liver/kidney function in a negative manner. When I was having daily panic attacks and taking large doses at night to help me sleep, I noticed a yellowing of my iris' which is an indicator that one's liver/kidneys are being compromised.

As with *any* supplement/additive, when taken for long periods of time, when suddenly discontinued, side-effects can be quite noticeable. Titrating is always the best method, unless otherwise directed by a doctor.

[DapperButch]

Hi, Ms. Holistic Health Counselor (easygoingfemme)! I appreciate you being here.

What is the dosing one should take for the apple cider vinegar? Medusa mentioned one tablespoon two times per day, is that the recommended dose?

Miss Virgin Bride, I see you "thanking" around here and know you have lots to add. Tell us your favorite supplements/herbs for health!

[easygoingfemme]

Dapper: For a morning elixer drink (warm water, raw honey, lemon, acv) I usually recommend A pint of water with 1-2 Tbsp cider vinegar (two is fine, but can be too intense for some) with 1 tsp honey, 1-2 Tbsp fresh lemon juice. You can also add in some cayenne for extra kick.

I also find that, for those who enjoy the flavor, a little bit added to your water during the day can be really nice, and extra good for you.

So if you have low tolerance for the flavor, 1 tbsp a day, twice a day for best results.

Some people I work with who really don't like the flavor will do a shot glass of just the acv, honey, lemon, and a little water, and then chase it with a tall glass of warm water.

[Novelafemme]

Thank you for sharing your information, Huge-Smile (I love your name BTW)!

While I am a big advocate of herbal medicine and Eastern medicine in general, since there is so little up to date research on the long term effects of many herbs, I am always a bit cautious. Especially when mixing them with prescription drugs.

Here at the University of Arizona we have the Center For Integrative Medicine, run by the one and only Dr. Andrew Weil. He implemented the program for reasons such as we are discussing; to dispel rumors and reinforce the positive components of holistic medicine and health. The program has really taken off!

I see him on campus every now and again. Homey needs to slim down a bit ;)

[Julie]

Here at the University of Arizona we have the Center For Integrative Medicine, run by the one and only Dr. Andrew Weil. He implemented the program for reasons such as we are discussing; to dispel rumors and reinforce the positive components of holistic medicine and health. The program has really taken off!

I see him on campus every now and again. Homey needs to slim down a bit ;)

Wow.. I came in here to discuss homeopathic and alternatives medicines and the last statement I read was rather fat phobic. I wonder how the esteemed Dr. Andrew Weil would feel about this? I've had the honor of dining with him at a night of fine raw food's with mutual friends who are his colleagues. Oh, and homey to describe such a fine human being. Just lost on this whole last statement.

Feeling a bit disgusted :|

[Novelafemme]

I, too, have met with and spent time with Dr. Weil, and I know he has a wonderful sense of humor. As do I. :) He even joked with me about the time I caught him eating an entire pack of SmartDogs in the Tucson Co-Op parking lot.

No fat-phobia-ness intended and I'm sad you chose to take only that away from my post. Have a wonderful day, Julie! :rrose:

[Julie]

I, too, have met with and spent time with Dr. Weil, and I know he has a wonderful sense of humor. As do I. :) He even joked with me about the time I caught him eating an entire pack of SmartDogs in the Tucson Co-Op parking lot.

No fat-phobia-ness intended and I'm sad you chose to take only that away from my post. Have a wonderful day, Julie! :rrose:

It is one thing to joke privately with your friend or the one in which the comment was intended. But to publicly speak about this fine gentleman in the way you did, was completely dishonorable and yes, quite fat-phobic. I wonder how he would feel knowing you made such public statements about him? All one has to do is google his name and the thread will be pulled up with your fat phobic comments. Call it what you will Novella, but often, without our even realizing we are doing it, we show our true-selves.

Julie

[Novelafemme]

It is one thing to joke privately with your friend or the one in which the comment was intended. But to publicly speak about this fine gentleman in the way you did, was completely dishonorable and yes, quite fat-phobic. I wonder how he would feel knowing you made such public statements about him? All one has to do is google his name and the thread will be pulled up with your fat phobic comments. Call it what you will Novella, but often, without our even realizing we are doing it, we show our true-selves.

Julie

I couldn't agree more about showing our true selves, Julie. I am all about living as authentically as I possibly can. Let's do this; how about the next time I see Dr. Weil I let him know that 1. I called him a homey on a queer website and 2. I joked publicly about his weight. Seeing as though I know for a fact he jokes very publicly about his own weight, I really, really doubt there will be a problem. And, just to show how authentic *I* am, I will even come in here and apologize if he feels my comment was inappropriate.

As for me, I kindly disagree with your assertion and your accusations. They have no impact on my integrity whatsoever. As I said before, Julie, have a lovely day.

I am looking forward to more dialogue about herbs and their use in everyone's lives. :)

[Julie]

As for me, I kindly disagree with your assertion and your accusations. They have no impact on my integrity whatsoever. As I said before, Julie, have a lovely day.

You do whatever you do best, to get you through you day.

As far as sleep goes... Magnesium is fabulous, Gamma Amino Butyric Acid andSuntheanine. Melatonin makes me wired.

I live on Turmeric. One of the best I have found in terms of Turmeric is Maximized Curcuminoids. This is actually extracted (Curcuminoids) from the Turmeric root. I found this is much more potent than straight Turmeric and longer lasting as far as pain relief goes.

Julie

[ahk]

Yes! That was the other thing I read about and have been doing the last couple of nights! I also have an Aztec clay mask thing that I mixed with it and my face was smooth as a baby's butt when I washed it all off.

Trying to phase out all of my skin products that are not natural and switch to things like lemons as a chemical-free facial peel and ACV is definitely on my list of faves so far :)

She (wife) also makes a mask using Aztec clay -- uses acv, tea tree oil, and some lavender oil. She makes it up every week and does one huge mask, and then spot treatments during the week. She has decided to get completely away from using chemicals on her face. We have also decided to stop using harsh chemicals on our skin too. If we are eating good, why would we want to put perfumed chemicals on ourselves?

Oooh! GREAT tip! I've seen those vegetable washes at the grocery store and always kinda tilted my head at spraying more shit on the fruit to get the pesticides off but I LOVE hearing I can use vinegar to clean the veggies and fruits!

And for turmeric! Ok, so Julie gave me some turmeric at the Reunion and I totally made fun of her and myself and referred to that as "the diarrhea pill" all weekend! But I have to admit, I recently ordered a pound of turmeric powder and a capsule-making thing because I felt amazing after the diarrhea pill at Reunion.
Reading up on it, it is apparently part of the ginger family?! And apparently you can also make paste for skin disorders like psoriases and chicken pox? Pretty amazing to say the least!

We use a veggie spray-- I use to purchase the TJs fruit spray, but it always seemed so "soapy", so we switched to the WholeFoods brand which was more "citrus-y" but also more expensive. So there I go, doing research about fruit/veggie sprays and have found one by using Dr. Bronner's Castile soap. Its basically a 1:3 ratio 1 castile, 3 water. It works really well.

And tumeric is part of the ginger family and is amazing for a lot of things.



I live on Turmeric. One of the best I have found in terms of Turmeric is Maximized Curcuminoids. This is actually extracted (Curcuminoids) from the Turmeric root. I found this is much more potent than straight Turmeric and longer lasting as far as pain relief goes.

Julie

I love turmeric. I just started using fresh turmeric and ginger in my tea at night. I basically grate ginger/turmeric, add honey and lemon and then hot water. Its really tasty and I've noticed that I feel wonderful and sleep really good at night.

[Medusa]

I'm about to chill out with some Valerian after a long day at the VA with my Pops. Or I might have a glass of red wine. Either way, I bet I won't make it to the Sleepy Time tea tonight - I'm freaking EXHAUSTED!

[DapperButch]

Speaking of Dr. Andrew Weil... the manufacturer of the supplements I take is Keith Block, M.D. Dr. Weil wrote the forward for Block's book, "Life Over Cancer". In the forward, Dr. Weil said that if he had cancer he would go to Dr. Block's Integrative Cancer Center for his treatment.

Block was not my oncologist, but I met with him for consult for diet and supplements (based on my blood work he ordered), after my cancer treatment.

I need to check into Magnesium for sleep. It seems to be all the rage on this thread!

[Medusa]

Speaking of Dr. Andrew Weil... the manufacturer of the supplements I take is Keith Block, M.D. Dr. Weil wrote the forward for Block's book, "Life Over Cancer". In the forward, Dr. Weil said that if he had cancer he would go to Dr. Block's Integrative Cancer Center for his treatment.

I need to check into Magnesium for sleep. It seems to be all the rage on this thread!

I just picked up "Life Over Cancer" for my Pops!!

[DapperButch]

I just picked up "Life Over Cancer" for my Pops!!

Medusa! That is fantastic! Please read it yourself. It is the way that all of us should eat! The integrative/holistic approach is the best when dealing with cancer. I'm glad that you got it for him.

[Medusa]

Medusa! That is fantastic! Please read it yourself. It is the way that all of us should eat! The holistic approach is the best!

Absolutely! It's one of those books that I decided to get the electronic copy of as well for myself.

I have read in multiple places that Cancer loves sugar and am trying to remember that every time I crave a Coke or syrupy bullshit. I know there are several other triggers for Cancer and am going to do my best to avoid those things at all costs and also encourage my Pops toward healthier foods.

Looks like a great book so far! :)

[JAGG]

I use liquid life. I swear by it. You can buy it in the grocery and drug stores here. Or on line. It's impressive. I drink 1 ounce a day , I swear it gives me energy, and keeps me healthy, I rarely get sick. Not to mention getting all the vitamins and minerals a body needs . It's about 28 dollars a bottle but it's totally worth it. 1 bottle lasts for a month.

[DapperButch]

I use liquid life. I swear by it. You can buy it in the grocery and drug stores here. Or on line. It's impressive. I drink 1 ounce a day , I swear it gives me energy, and keeps me healthy, I rarely get sick. Not to mention getting all the vitamins and minerals a body needs . It's about 28 dollars a bottle but it's totally worth it. 1 bottle lasts for a month.

JAGG, are you referring to this?

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/all-one-liquid-life-multi-vitamin-complete-nutrition-fruit-flavor-32-oz-liquid

I admit, that does look like a good quality list of ingredients there! A lot is covered. Go you!

[JAGG]

JAGG, are you referring to this?

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/all-one-liquid-life-multi-vitamin-complete-nutrition-fruit-flavor-32-oz-liquid

I admit, that does look like a good quality list of ingredients there! A lot is covered. Go you!

Yes Dapper that's it !!!! You should try it for a month I bet you will see a huge difference in your body.
Dang I need to buy it on line too. It's much cheaper. lol

[DapperButch]

Yes Dapper that's it !!!! You should try it for a month I bet you will see a huge difference in your body.
Dang I need to buy it on line too. It's much cheaper. lol

I think I will order some. I do already take supplements and veggie powder drinks, so I do thinks things are pretty well covered for me. The idea of only taking 2 tablespoons of something a day is attractive as well, though!

I don't doubt that it does create energy (unlike those "energy drinks").

How did you find out about this drink?

[Medusa]

Yes Dapper that's it !!!! You should try it for a month I bet you will see a huge difference in your body.
Dang I need to buy it on line too. It's much cheaper. lol

I checked out the list of ingredients and it looks pretty impressive!!
Does it taste ok? I'm always afraid stuff like that will taste awful!

[DapperButch]

I checked out the list of ingredients and it looks pretty impressive!!
Does it taste ok? I'm always afraid stuff like that will taste awful!

Eh, it's only 2 tablespoons. Just hold your nose!

[Julie]

Okay, so I don't usually publicly discuss controversial healing agents, especially those deemed by the FDA as deadly. Which they are not. It just happens to be an amazing find and the FDA hates this fact (it is cheap) and has cured hundreds of thousands of people and millions have taken it without a single death. Go figure!!!

MMS is simply Chlorine Dioxide and I take it daily. When I was in India, I was covered with open sore mosquito bites all over my body. The doctors were more than concerned I would get Malaria, but I knew different. I was drinking MMS daily and while my sores were ugly, I was working 16 hour days and traveling the country side and should have been sick, beyond sick. I do not share the with many, but I have breast cancer (diagnosed in 2011) and I take MMS daily as a preventative of growth and people, nothing is growing. I believe in this, like some believe in the gospel.

I am going to put some links here and just implore you to read. Jim Humble who founded this in 1996 by accident, has been treating people for free in third world countries. This is not expensive, it is pennies a day and he really does help people.

http://http://jimhumble.org/

http://mmswiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Just keep an open mind.

EDITED: I opted to not have a prophylactic mastectomy or chemo. I chose this route instead.
EDITED AGAIN: Under no circumstances am I suggesting people follow my personal protocol. This was simply MY CHOICE for MY BODY!

Julie

[DapperButch]

Ok, JAGG, I ordered some. I will let you know what I think!

TF, will actually be a good one to try it. Since she takes no vitamins/supplements (unlike me), her body is a clean slate. She said she is open to trying it.

[DapperButch]

Okay, so I don't usually publicly discuss controversial healing agents, especially those deemed by the FDA as deadly. Which they are not. It just happens to be an amazing find and the FDA hates this fact (it is cheap) and has cured hundreds of thousands of people and millions have taken it without a single death. Go figure!!!

MMS is simply Chlorine Dioxide and I take it daily. When I was in India, I was covered with open sore mosquito bites all over my body. The doctors were more than concerned I would get Malaria, but I knew different. I was drinking MMS daily and while my sores were ugly, I was working 16 hour days and traveling the country side and should have been sick, beyond sick. I do not share the with many, but I have breast cancer (diagnosed in 2011) and I take MMS daily as a preventative of growth and people, nothing is growing. I believe in this, like some believe in the gospel.

I am going to put some links here and just implore you to read. Jim Humble who founded this in 1996 by accident, has been treating people for free in third world countries. This is not expensive, it is pennies a day and he really does help people.

http://http://jimhumble.org/

http://mmswiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Just keep an open mind.

EDITED: I opted to not have a prophylactic mastectomy or chemo. I chose this route instead.

Julie

Hey, Julie, I am sorry to read of your diagnosis. I didn't know you had been having to manage something like this. Please know I respect your choice to not utilize surgery and chemicals to rid yourself of this disease/slow down/stop the growth, of the disease. (f)

[Julie]

Hey, Julie, I am sorry to read of your diagnosis. I didn't know you had been having to manage something like this. Please know I respect your choice to not utilize surgery and chemicals to rid yourself of this disease/slow down/stop the growth, of the disease. (f)

Dapper - The only time I remember I have this is when I have to go for my 6 month mammo's and mri's and my 2x a year visit to my breast surgeon and oncologist. Other than that. I completely forget, until something reminds me like this thread. And trust me, my oncologist was not happy with me and my choice. And as far as I know, it could be gone. It is cellular and has not progressed into a mass. I have had a biopsy this then for a benign adenoma - but i am high risk, so any mass it going to be checked immediately. They caught it early, stage 1 and it was found after I had my reconstruction surgery from a previous partial mastectomy.

[DapperButch]

Absolutely! It's one of those books that I decided to get the electronic copy of as well for myself.

I have read in multiple places that Cancer loves sugar and am trying to remember that every time I crave a Coke or syrupy bullshit. I know there are several other triggers for Cancer and am going to do my best to avoid those things at all costs and also encourage my Pops toward healthier foods.

Looks like a great book so far! :)

Yep, tumors FEED off of sugar. That is how they grow. I used to get so pissed when I would go into my chemo infusion room every other week and see the peppermints and candy bowls at the nursing station for the patients. Agh! <they removed them by the time I stopped going there...cough>.

That book, the way one eats, the supplements one might take, etc. is all about making the body inhospitable to cancer. We all have cancer cells, but some people are more predispositioned to getting it. It isn't the predisposition that gives you the cancer, it is whether or not there is environmental factors in your life that can result in the growth of cancer. cancer does not magically appear because your body is predisposed to it based on genetics. Cancer does not grow in a predisposed vaccuum.

I got colon cancer at age 39. I was of average weight/nicely toned body, but ate like shit. I also didn't do any structured exercise, I drank alcohol regularly, did not get enough sleep, did not attend to my emotional health while having a high stress job, and live in a state that is in the top 5 when it comes to getting cancer (poor air quality). Having that predisposition + those factors resulted in my getting cancer. If this was not my environment, there is a good chance I would have never gotten it.

So, now I have to make my body a place cancer has no power to grow in. The foods I eat and the way I take care of my mental health and body is what can keep it from happening. It is about creating an inhospitable place for cancer.

I really need to reread that book. As I sit here writing this with my glass of wine (at least it is wine...and red at that!), all I can think about is how far off the path I have become again...not terribly off the path, but I could do much better. I'm glad for this discussion.

Dapper - The only time I remember I have this is when I have to go for my 6 month mammo's and mri's and my 2x a year visit to my breast surgeon and oncologist. Other than that. I completely forget, until something reminds me like this thread. And trust me, my oncologist was not happy with me and my choice. And as far as I know, it could be gone. It is cellular and has not progressed into a mass. I have had a biopsy this then for a benign adenoma - but i am high risk, so any mass it going to be checked immediately. They caught it early, stage 1 and it was found after I had my reconstruction surgery from a previous partial mastectomy.

Thanks for sharing all this. I hear you say that you don't think about it, yet at the same time, you live your life doing good things for your body so that your cancer doesn't return (such as taking the correct supplements for you). You have just made fighting cancer a part of living your life.

As an aside, do you take Coq10?

[Medusa]

Coq10! I saw some giant bottles of that earlier today at Sam's Club when I stopped to get my Pops a "reward pie" for going to the Oncologist and getting poked.


Have seen a lot of good writings about this one as well. Saw an article a few days ago about studies that were done back in the early 60s where folks who had certain types of Cancer had low levels of Coq10 in their bodies. (and apparently our bodies produce this naturally!!??)

[Liam]

Coq10! I saw some giant bottles of that earlier today at Sam's Club when I stopped to get my Pops a "reward pie" for going to the Oncologist and getting poked.


Have seen a lot of good writings about this one as well. Saw an article a few days ago about studies that were done back in the early 60s where folks who had certain types of Cancer had low levels of Coq10 in their bodies. (and apparently our bodies produce this naturally!!??)

CoQ10 (Ubiquinone,) helps regulate our blood sugar, lowers our blood pressure, helps keep our gums healthy, and all kinds of good stuff. While it is true that our body does make CoQ10, many medications (primarily anti-depressants,) deplete what is made. No daily value has been established, I take 100mg/day, and I can always feel it, when I forget to take it - I feel better when I take CoQ10.

As usual do your homework, and ask your Doctor before taking any supplements.

[Sweet Bliss]

Wonderful thread, Thank you Medusa.

" The PH Miracle " is another good read regarding inflammation.

I'm currently learning about fermented foods.

"Nourishing Traditions" is an incredible book about Weston Price's work.


"Healing Tooth Decay" is my next purchase. Based on the work of W.Price it focuses on healing dental deficiency through nutrition.


Thank you all for your contributions!

[Rockinonahigh]

I have a problem with driving at night cause of bad stigmatism (?) in both eyes,recently I got new glasses but the place I got them from didn't do the lenses right so they will be doing them again and right this time,they were supposed to put a h.d. tint on them plus tri focals not bi's.My question is,what can anyone do for tired sore eyes? Driving at night is killing me as my eyes burn and run tears,I have eye drops but can anything work better,even bright lights in a building is an issue at times.I am back to wearing my old pair that have magnetic h.d. shades to use as I need them.

[Julie]

Thanks for sharing all this. I hear you say that you don't think about it, yet at the same time, you live your life doing good things for your body so that your cancer doesn't return (such as taking the correct supplements for you). You have just made fighting cancer a part of living your life.

As an aside, do you take Coq10?

I am high risk for breast cancer and colon cancer. This has been a part of my life for 20 years. So yes, I live my life fighting cancer daily. You are SO RIGHT!

I take a product by Thorne - Q-Best 100 which is Coq10. I also take a bunch of other supplements.

I had a bit a scare last month (really scary) and they found I had a blood clot through a DDimer test (+3400). I thought I was having a heart attack, but it was a blood clot that had most likely broken off. Therefore, I am on natural blood thinners and tons of cardiovascular supplements. My heart and lungs (surprisingly) are strong and young.

I have an appointment next week with my naturalist and we will see where I am at and what supplements we need to add. Since taking her protocol, I feel healthier than I have in years. Though expensive - this is running about $250 a month, but my boss is paying for everything. In contrast to the $6 a month I would be paying for pharmaceuticals :|

I am happy to read Dapper that you are doing so much better since your colon cancer. It is so important for us to be vigilant with our bodies.

[JAGG]

Liquid life comes in different flavors. I get mango flavored. It has a strong vitamin after taste. I chase it with a swig of diet coke. Make sure you shake the bottle well to mix it everytime you use it . But I am convinced it is why I have no gray hair and still feel like I did when I was 18. It is made from an ancient root of some sort. They had a factory in Tulsa and my company used to ship it for them. But a few years ago they moved to Ca. That is how I know about them. I have been using it for 16 years.

[DapperButch]

Medusa-

Every cell in our body has CoQ10. The purpose of CoQ10 is for cellular growth and maintenance. That is pretty much the whole ball of wax when it comes to our body systems, right there!

I think you are referring to a study done in 1961/1962 (?), where they found that people with many different types of cancer (colon, lung, breast, etc), had low amounts of CoQ10. There was some evidence that CoQ10 supplements was helpful to individuals with breast cancer, but I have not heard of any studies replicating this.

Julie-

I use Integrative Therapeutics UBQH.

I hear you about cost. I pay around $300-$350/month. I am fortunate in that I have someone who helps me with the cost, as well. What I take is based off the blood work I did for K. Block, M.D. I was supposed to follow up with more blood work after 6 months, but I am irresponsible like that. It has been 2 years and I have just been ordering the same stuff. I doubt it would change that much, but I do need to follow through.

Medusa - speaking of Block, he was really cool. He was a bit rough looking when I met him because he had just taken the red eye home from a snow boarding trip! He's an old hippy, too.

[Medusa]

Finished up my old standby facial moisturizer that was full of shit I couldn't pronounce and am switching to all natural products. Started with vitamin E oil and have some cocoa butter also.

Already loving the vitamin E!

[Julie]

I had no idea about the relevancy to CoQ10 and breast cancer, etc. Really interesting. I am going to check this out. I have used supplements from Integrative Therapeutics. They have great products. And Dapper, I am pretty lazy about blood work as well. I kinda put it on ignore. I find that doctors can make us much sicker than we might actually be.

Medusa - Can you do me a favor and post a link to the Aztec mask. I want to try it with the apple cider vinegar. I wonder if there is something natural out there for puffy eyes and those irritating small lines I am beginning to see on my face (dammit).

[Medusa]

I had no idea about the relevancy to CoQ10 and breast cancer, etc. Really interesting. I am going to check this out. I have used supplements from Integrative Therapeutics. They have great products. And Dapper, I am pretty lazy about blood work as well. I kinda put it on ignore. I find that doctors can make us much sicker than we might actually be.

Medusa - Can you do me a favor and post a link to the Aztec mask. I want to try it with the apple cider vinegar. I wonder if there is something natural out there for puffy eyes and those irritating small lines I am beginning to see on my face (dammit).



This is it:

http://www.amazon.com/Aztec-Secret-Indian-Healing-Cleansing/dp/B0014P8L9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390532960&sr=8-1&keywords=aztec+mask


You mix this with apple cider vinegar (even says you can on the label) and let it dry, then wash it all off. My face was smooth and balmy like a mushroom when I was done. LOVE this product and it's super cheap considering how much of it you get!

[Medusa]

Well, this isn't an herb per se but it is natural:

I have recently discovered a LOVE of coconut oil. Originally picked it up to cook with but have been using it as a lip balm, on my face, and in my hair as a conditioner. I LOVE this stuff. It smells amazing and soaks into dry skin so well.

:)

[DapperButch]

Well, this isn't an herb per se but it is natural:

I have recently discovered a LOVE of coconut oil. Originally picked it up to cook with but have been using it as a lip balm, on my face, and in my hair as a conditioner. I LOVE this stuff. It smells amazing and soaks into dry skin so well.

:)

Coconut oil is excellent for you. Sounds like you have found a lot of uses!

[Daktari]

Coconut oil is good for face, body and hair; Argan oil is even better.

Mix a little of both along with a little jojoba oil (maybe a little peach kernel, meadowfoam and rosehip oils too) and you have the best skin conditioner ever. I add a few drops of cypress e.o which helps treat facial spider veins and a little ylang ylang to make me (or whoever I"m making the product for) feel good (and smells lovely I'm told).

For hands I recommend melting some cocoa butter with a little shea butter. Nothing else necessary.

Good luck to those who are looking for all natural ways to treat your skin and hair.

[Hey You]

I have recently stopped using shampoo in my hair. A mix of bicarb and water leaves it very clean when I'm pretty dirty or sweaty. A mix of apple cider vinegar and water a couple of times a week when it's less dirty leaves it nice and smooth and it stops smelling when it dries.

Next project is to make my own deodorant. Apparently apple cider vinegar works well on its own but it is quite acidic so I don't know if I want to do that every day. I've got a few patches of skin healing from getting rid of some moles using ACV though, seems to have worked really well.

[DapperButch]

I have recently stopped using shampoo in my hair. A mix of bicarb and water leaves it very clean when I'm pretty dirty or sweaty. A mix of apple cider vinegar and water a couple of times a week when it's less dirty leaves it nice and smooth and it stops smelling when it dries.

Next project is to make my own deodorant. Apparently apple cider vinegar works well on its own but it is quite acidic so I don't know if I want to do that every day. I've got a few patches of skin healing from getting rid of some moles using ACV though, seems to have worked really well.

My partner made deodarant once when she was experimenting. It took her a lot of time and it was messy to make (she says). She poured it into those cupcake paper things. Hard to hold and was messy in the hand, as well. Other thing is that it was really hard on the armpits...didn't really roll on.

Anyway, we (ok, I), just make sure to buy aluminum free deodorant.

The homemade laundry soap she makes works fine, though.

[bokster]

I have recently stopped using shampoo in my hair. A mix of bicarb and water leaves it very clean when I'm pretty dirty or sweaty. A mix of apple cider vinegar and water a couple of times a week when it's less dirty leaves it nice and smooth and it stops smelling when it dries.

Next project is to make my own deodorant. Apparently apple cider vinegar works well on its own but it is quite acidic so I don't know if I want to do that every day. I've got a few patches of skin healing from getting rid of some moles using ACV though, seems to have worked really well.

VCO works for me as a deodorant, I kid you not. I was kind of skeptical when I read about it, but tried it anyway. No wet, sticky feeling, and most importantly, no smell after a quick walk around the block. I've thrown out my old deodorant already.

I've been taking a tablespoon spoon of VCO everyday (been giving my dogs the same amount and have seen some really cool benefits on them). I have also blended in a few drops of lavender eo in a pump bottle for my skin.

I'm going to check out the argan oil next as posted by Daktari.

[Parker]

I have recently stopped using shampoo in my hair. A mix of bicarb and water leaves it very clean when I'm pretty dirty or sweaty. A mix of apple cider vinegar and water a couple of times a week when it's less dirty leaves it nice and smooth and it stops smelling when it dries.

Next project is to make my own deodorant. Apparently apple cider vinegar works well on its own but it is quite acidic so I don't know if I want to do that every day. I've got a few patches of skin healing from getting rid of some moles using ACV though, seems to have worked really well.
I've stopped using shampoo as well - I use baking soda now. It works really well and leaves my hair soft and not oily or dried out - zero dandruff too. :)

The homemade laundry soap she makes works fine, though.
I make my own laundry soap as well - did you already post your recipe? I can go look for it if you did - if not, will you post it?

I used the recipe on this link --> here (http://www.onegoodthingbyjillee.com/2012/08/make-a-years-worth-of-laundry-soap.html) <--

I got that from FB - I used to belong to a lot of prepper and homesteader FB pages that posted things like the laundry soap recipe, how to make your own neosporin-type salve, cold medicine, decongestant, deodorant, etc.

I am trying to get more of the chemicals out of my life and bring in more natural stuff that works just as well, but cheaper and safer. :winky:

[DapperButch]

I've stopped using shampoo as well - I use baking soda now. It works really well and leaves my hair soft and not oily or dried out - zero dandruff too. :)


I make my own laundry soap as well - did you already post your recipe? I can go look for it if you did - if not, will you post it?

I used the recipe on this link --> here (http://www.onegoodthingbyjillee.com/2012/08/make-a-years-worth-of-laundry-soap.html) <--

I got that from FB - I used to belong to a lot of prepper and homesteader FB pages that posted things like the laundry soap recipe, how to make your own neosporin-type salve, cold medicine, decongestant, deodorant, etc.

I am trying to get more of the chemicals out of my life and bring in more natural stuff that works just as well, but cheaper and safer. :winky:


Parker -

Yep, same stuff. Minus the Purex fabric softener. I feel mixed on using the Oxyclean (more chemicals), but TF thinks it is important to keep in there (so we do). I have found most homemade laundry soap receipes (online, anyway), are the same. Pretty standard ingredients.

[Medusa]

Our homemade laundry soap comes from my Gayboy, Emmit, and I believe it has shaved up "Zote" soap, washing soda, and rainwater. He also adds some essential oils to make it smell wonderful and it works like a freaking CHARM! I might be forgetting an ingredient though because I haven't started making it myself just yet.

We did try the homemade fabric softener and I DID NOT like the recipe we used. It involved vinegar and made our clothes smell like fucking pickles!!

[Parker]

Yes - in the comments of that soap recipe, they mention using Zote instead of Naptha. Some people even suggest using Ivory soap instead.

Also in the comments, people say what Dapper did about not using the Purex softener bc of chemicals and instead, adding 1/2 cup of white or apple cider vinegar to the wash. Or, conversely, making your own drier sheets by cutting up old t-shirts into 6-8" squares and adding 3-5 drops of an essential oil onto the shirt pieces before putting them in the drier.

That same commenter also mentioned adding essential oils to the powder detergent if you wanted that to have a scent - add 40-80 drops, she says, a little at a time so you can mix it in without it clumping.

My detergent started out in 2 1-gallon sized jugs and I am down to 3/4 of a gallon now, so I am looking into making it again. I'd love to see your son's recipe, Medusa, if you can get it - sometimes, I like to take the best of more than one recipe to make my own. :winky:

[Medusa]

Parker! I'll ask him for the recipe! He is such a crafty boy an is always making bath bombs for me and laundry soap! Last year he crocheted 2 gorgeous scarves for me and 2 fun hats with pompoms all over them!

He even crocheted a hat for Gracie!!

[Medusa]

Does anyone here make their own capsules? I've got questions about dosages for turmeric and some other stuff.

[DapperButch]

Does anyone here make their own capsules? I've got questions about dosages for turmeric and some other stuff.

You can take really large amounts of Curcumin, so don't be too concerned about getting the wrong number on that one. I take 2000mg per day, but that is also the recommended dose by my oncologist for past cancer (he has been doing western/holistic oncologist 30+ years). He makes his own supplements. On the bottle it recommends 500mg per day (for the average person).

The most important thing to remember about supplements is to get the highest quality you can. You can take a crapload of Curcumin, but if it isn't good quality, it really won't "do it's thing" in the same way/as much as quality stuff will.

I would also check into the importance of the quality of the capsule and if that can effect the way the supplement is absorbed into one's system. I don't know anything about that, but I know that for coated tablets (such as vitamins), that is important. I wonder if that would be less of a concern for capsules however (when it comes to supplements such as Curcumin), since that is something that we eat. I would do a quick google search on that, but perhaps you have already researched this.

[Medusa]

Making my own herbal teas of late with loose herbs. I've enjoyed a peppermint, a cinnamon, and a good chamomile with lavender blend.

What's your favorite herbal drink or tea?

I've seen online where some folks have talked about infusing water with dried herbs and I'm thinking of trying it. Maybe roses, lavender, or other fragrant flowers. I've used lavender infused water to make white cocoa and it was divine!

[Medusa]

Just made myself a tea with dried hibiscus flower, dried roses, lotus leaf, and lemon.

Delicious!

[Medusa]

Ok, so cinnamon?

I’ve read that dosing with (Ceylon) cinnamon is great for helping regulate blood sugar and inflammation. Anyone here take it on the daily? Have you noticed any positive side effects?

[Tucker]

My pitbull is getting cinnamon daily for the last few years, it is amazing. It helps him look and feel better. its almost like a pain reliever. We notice the effects if he doesnt get his cinnamon for a few days.Ok, so cinnamon?

I’ve read that dosing with (Ceylon) cinnamon is great for helping regulate blood sugar and inflammation. Anyone here take it on the daily? Have you noticed any positive side effects?

[Medusa]

My pitbull is getting cinnamon daily for the last few years, it is amazing. It helps him look and feel better. its almost like a pain reliever. We notice the effects if he doesnt get his cinnamon for a few days.

Thank you!

Someone said in private that they did get some blood sugar regulation effects (thank you!) and the anti-inflammatory properties are also super attractive to me. I am not a fan of taking pain relievers but my knees and hips are kinda crunchy some days and need to do something as a maintenance plan.

I have had good results with turmeric as well!

[Tucker]

My boy has cancer and i have noticed that the cinnamon is great at making his joints a little more limber. It also helps with the allergies that cancer causes. I am a firm believer in the holistic approach above taking pills for everything. Thank you!

Someone said in private that they did get some blood sugar regulation effects (thank you!) and the anti-inflammatory properties are also super attractive to me. I am not a fan of taking pain relievers but my knees and hips are kinda crunchy some days and need to do something as a maintenance plan.

I have had good results with turmeric as well!

[DapperButch]

Thank you!

Someone said in private that they did get some blood sugar regulation effects (thank you!) and the anti-inflammatory properties are also super attractive to me. I am not a fan of taking pain relievers but my knees and hips are kinda crunchy some days and need to do something as a maintenance plan.

I have had good results with turmeric as well!

I take 2000mg of tumeric on a daily basis for general reduction of inflammation in the body. There is great body of literature that has established this as a great anti inflammatory agent.

[Medusa]

I take 2000mg of tumeric on a daily basis for general reduction of inflammation in the body. There is great body of literature that has established this as a great anti inflammatory agent.

Agreed! I *really* notice a difference when I stop taking it. I go from not taking any Naproxen for weeks to waking up wanting one so that my joints don't feel like they are full of sand.
Losing weight has helped my joint pain tremendously but some of this is just residual for carrying so much weight for so long. Exercise helps too though, thank Goddess!

[DapperButch]

Agreed! I *really* notice a difference when I stop taking it. I go from not taking any Naproxen for weeks to waking up wanting one so that my joints don't feel like they are full of sand.
Losing weight has helped my joint pain tremendously but some of this is just residual for carrying so much weight for so long. Exercise helps too though, thank Goddess!

I LOLed after I posted. At the top of the page you and I discussed tumeric in 2014!

[Esme nha Maire]

I've just spotted an interesting item on the Science Daily webiste about the oestrogenic/androgen antagonist effects of lavender oil and tea tree oil, which apparently has had feminising effects on pre-pubertal boys in a number of cases: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180318144856.htm

[Medusa]

I've just spotted an interesting item on the Science Daily webiste about the oestrogenic/androgen antagonist effects of lavender oil and tea tree oil, which apparently has had feminising effects on pre-pubertal boys in a number of cases: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180318144856.htm


I saw that and it totally made me remember a conversation with a friend who was transitioning several years ago.
She SWORE by lavender oil as a supplement for her transition! She said that she mixed the essential oil of lavender with her nightly moisturizing routine and rubbed it basically everywhere and that it helped soften her skin.

She also said that before she ever started hormones that an older friend who had already transitioned advised her that lavender would enhance her breasts if she used the essential oil in her lotion and also put it in her aromatherapy machine. I thought it was bullshit but I will fully admit that she had gorgeous, luminous skin so you know, maybe?! She also said she felt like she had gained breast tissue from it before ever starting hormones.

Might have been psychosomatic or whatever but hey, she always smelled delicious as a result of using it.

[kittygrrl]

Yes it's true a good Lavender oil added to your organic skin and face products can do wonders. The only problem is not all Lavender oil is created equal. It has to be organic and i would definitely go to the Lavender farm to see how they take care of their Lavender and process it. My sister has a Lavender farm and produces a beautiful Lavender oil but she doesn't sell it. However, there is a very excellent lavender farm on the peninsula called Purple Haze which produces a high quality lavender oil. I trust it.

[Medusa]

Yes it's true a good Lavender oil added to your organic skin and face products can do wonders. The only problem is not all Lavender oil is created equal. It has to be organic and i would definitely go to the Lavender farm to see how they take care of their Lavender and process it. My sister has a Lavender farm and produces a beautiful Lavender oil but she doesn't sell it. However, there is a very excellent lavender farm on the peninsula called Purple Haze which produces a high quality lavender oil. I trust it.


OH MY GODDESS!!!!!

Someone actually sent me a bundle of the best lavender I have ever held in my life and it came from Purple Haze!!!!!
It was the royal velvet bundle and that shit was AMAZING.

Small world!

[DapperButch]

I've just spotted an interesting item on the Science Daily webiste about the oestrogenic/androgen antagonist effects of lavender oil and tea tree oil, which apparently has had feminising effects on pre-pubertal boys in a number of cases: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180318144856.htm

You and your Science Daily. ;)

I saw that article somewhere, too. It was probably posted in a trans FB group I am in.

[DapperButch]

This says the farm was up for sale in 6/2018. I wonder if it has been sold yet?

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/news/purple-haze-lavender-owner-puts-farm-up-for-sale-says-hes-ready-to-retire-travel/

Yes it's true a good Lavender oil added to your organic skin and face products can do wonders. The only problem is not all Lavender oil is created equal. It has to be organic and i would definitely go to the Lavender farm to see how they take care of their Lavender and process it. My sister has a Lavender farm and produces a beautiful Lavender oil but she doesn't sell it. However, there is a very excellent lavender farm on the peninsula called Purple Haze which produces a high quality lavender oil. I trust it.

OH MY GODDESS!!!!!

Someone actually sent me a bundle of the best lavender I have ever held in my life and it came from Purple Haze!!!!!
It was the royal velvet bundle and that shit was AMAZING.

Small world!

[Medusa]

This says the farm was up for sale in 6/2018. I wonder if it has been sold yet?

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/news/purple-haze-lavender-owner-puts-farm-up-for-sale-says-hes-ready-to-retire-travel/

This is where I send a prayer into the ether that whoever buys it keeps it as a lavender farm and doesn’t do something awful like put up a Burger King...or a Republican headquarters. 🧐

[kittygrrl]

OH MY GODDESS!!!!!

Someone actually sent me a bundle of the best lavender I have ever held in my life and it came from Purple Haze!!!!!
It was the royal velvet bundle and that shit was AMAZING.

Small world!

small world Medusa...a very pretty visit...i asked the owners if it was really for sale and they said yes, for about a year..they told me not to worry, they didn't think much would change:|..i wish i was naive enough to believe it, i hate having my bubbles burst:alieninjar:

[Martina]

Anyone have a recommendation for pulled muscles?

[Esme nha Maire]

You and your Science Daily. ;)

I saw that article somewhere, too. It was probably posted in a trans FB group I am in.

It's a good site. And I'm a science geek. (shrugs) :-} I'd never jeard of anyone using anything herbal to help transitioning before, and didnt know whether anyone here would have heard of that before. I posted here in case anyone with youngsters tended to use the the stuff, as unintentional messing with anyones hormones is obviously NOT a good idea.

[DapperButch]

It's a good site. And I'm a science geek. (shrugs) :-} I'd never jeard of anyone using anything herbal to help transitioning before, and didnt know whether anyone here would have heard of that before. I posted here in case anyone with youngsters tended to use the the stuff, as unintentional messing with anyones hormones is obviously NOT a good idea.

I am teasing you! Seeing it was from Science Digest and knowing you love that site made me smile. I think it is great that you posted it.

I remember years ago, wanting to look more masculine and finding information on transitioning through herbs. I can't remember the guy who was doing it, but he had a serious system going. It was very complicated. Fascinating. Of course it really doesn't work. Perhaps very, very minimal masculinization.

[homoe]

Part of my New Years promise to myself this year was to start incorporating more natural herbal alternatives into my health routine to replace OTC meds.

So here's a thread to talk about all things herbal! (NO, Not 420!)


Do any of you take valerian root to sleep? or is there something more affective?

I've just come across an article about Mugwort, used in a sachet with a combination of Lavender and Chamomile, as a sleep aid.......