"Nail" me!

[suebee]

Okay. I'm woman enough to admit it: I've never taken care of my nails. I need help. I've done some research :detective: and I've found some videos on youtube (they've got EVERYTHING on that site!), but with the bevy of femmes on this site I figured I have access to my very own panel of experts. :4femme:

Any advice for this poor ole country girl? :farmwife:

[morningstar55]

hey ya there...
for a moment thought ur nail me.. was about ahhh a handsome butch nailing umm you.. lol
id give anything to meet a nice gentlemen , hunky butch/TG to ahh nail me.. LOL .. :awww:
but they all seem to like them girly girl High
maintenance ones... im assuming i'll be single for the rest of my life.. oh well.
now about them nails...
im a country type of gal myself..i see your a country girl too cool .i do have nails.. and keep them at a nice length.
i dont wear them long plastic things.. and i do my best to keep them clean and trimed up nice, with the job i have sometimes its hard for us working girls . ( truck driving femme here) lol
i like to polish them up now and then.
hope this helps......

[suebee]

Yes, if you're a hardworking girl such as yourself it must be a challenge! :)

My number one problem is that my nails break at the slightest provocation. I'm sure I can improve that a little if I get the right products. They're healthy, just fragile.

Number two problem - and I'm currently trying to deal with this - is my cuticles. If I could sell them by the pound I'd be a rich woman. If only Madge were still around today! (if you're under 45 you probably won't "get" the Madge reference - that's for us "mature" women! ;))

[The_Lady_Snow]

I love my claws....

If you pop vitamin e pills, the oil on your nail it helps them, cuticles and all..

I am always moving my hands or using them so I tend to break my claws if they get to long...

as for your predicament morningstar..

I would suggest finding a counterpart that likes you for you, and then nailing them as hard as you get nailed....:dance2::bondage:

[Princess4u]

Well yes I agree it would be nice to be nailed by a gentlemen...but then would a gentleman really "nail" you..hummm food for thought!!

Now as for them nails...
I am a nurse and in water all the time and those purell sanitzers dont help much. Keeping your hands and nailbed well lubricated (heheheehehe) i know i am bad...but it helps...I like the goldbond products they dont leave the wet, overly lubbed feeling...as I am applying said lotion to the hands I am also massaging my nailbed and cuticles. I do this while at a red light in the car, or watching TV and after shower and oh ues doing dishes. That seems to help especially in the cold weather. I try to be careful with my finances, being single is hard on the purse, so I dont go to het the manicure thing done very often. Instead I have one of those 7 sided nail files which smooth and buff....actually I have found that this really helps to strengthen...my nails tend to be very thin and brittle, the peel and break if you look at them funny. So I do this about every 2 weeks and it helps some. Applying harders everyday will also help...do it while watching the evening news or your fav show....you are sitting there doing nothing anyway. Just some suggestions..I hope it helps. I am going to try the vit E....

[suebee]

This afternoon I was shopping and picked up some vitamin E capsules.

My favorite hand cream is a German product called "Glysomed". It was suggested to me by a woman who produces hand-made evergreen wreaths each fall. She says it saved her hands. Anyone I've ever introduced to it is impressed. It's in lime/forest green flat jar. (not tested on animals)

My favorite nail tool is a glass nail file.They're normally fairly pricey, but my girl found one at a surplus store for Six bucks. Unfortunately it got broken, and I haven't been able to find one as nice since. If you've never tried a really thin glass file then you don't know what you're missing.

To tell the truth, even if I could afford to go to a salon to get my nails done I'm a little bit scared of fungal infections. And in any case I'm really enjoying getting back into the habit of pampering myself a bit.

Any other tips out there?

Enquiring :floatbee: s want to know!

[Medusa]

I would love to have long nails but Im way too rough on them. They get broken and chipped all the time so I have resigned myself to having short nails.

They are currently painted "Ruby Pumps" which is a great glittery red :)

[Sachita]

My nails grow fast, strong and for many years I grew my own natural nails. Like Medusa its almost impossible for me to keep them nice, being on the farm, gardening, etc.

Use essential oil
rosemary, tea tree, lemon, vita E

the lemon will help whiten discolored nails. Rub this oil into your nails at night. A few nights a week is enough.

Do not cut your cuticles. They will only grow back more. Take an cuticle stick and gently push them back when you are oiling your nails.

To bring luster and shine- get a file
Amazon.com: Sephora Brand 4-Step Buffer: Beauty

simply follow the steps- numbers. It will buff your nails to a beautiful sexy shine and all natural. You will love it

I do grow my nails a bit even on the farm but thats mostly to scratch my pets. lol - seriously. I also suspect I'll be using them to scratch a back soon.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Once upon a luncheon.. I heard Ms Medusa say...

"It was the FUCK ME IN THE ASS red nail polish color"

*I* personally avoid that particular color...

I would drip it all over the boys back though for the tapping it from behind visiual stimulation purpose....

That is all...

[Medusa]

Once upon a luncheon.. I heard Ms Medusa say...

"It was the FUCK ME IN THE ASS red nail polish color"

*I* personally avoid that particular color...

I would drip it all over the boys back though for the tapping it from behind visiual stimulation purpose....

That is all...

*snort*

OMG. I had completely forgot about that! But I must say the look on your face was fucking PRICELESS! :cheerleader:

[Semantics]

You never know what you might find when you open up a thread around here. :simplelaugh:


My tips:
Always use a clear topcoat over your polish.
It's worth it to pay a little more for a brand like OPI because it will last much longer.

[Soft*Silver]

go to a horse tack store and buy a jar of corona horse hoof moisturizer. Seriously. Use it every day on your nails..rub it especially on the nail bed. Use it between coats of polish and use it before you put on fresh polish. I am telling you..your nails will be so strong and grow so long!

[The_Lady_Snow]

*snort*

OMG. I had completely forgot about that! But I must say the look on your face was fucking PRICELESS! :cheerleader:


I want you to know I respect Jack highly..

I kept my eyes down when it came to looking at your ass for the rest of the weekend...

:smelling-flower:

[Gemme]

Okay. I'm woman enough to admit it: I've never taken care of my nails. I need help. I've done some research :detective: and I've found some videos on youtube (they've got EVERYTHING on that site!), but with the bevy of femmes on this site I figured I have access to my very own panel of experts. :4femme:

Any advice for this poor ole country girl? :farmwife:

Yes, if you're a hardworking girl such as yourself it must be a challenge! :)

My number one problem is that my nails break at the slightest provocation. I'm sure I can improve that a little if I get the right products. They're healthy, just fragile.

Number two problem - and I'm currently trying to deal with this - is my cuticles. If I could sell them by the pound I'd be a rich woman. If only Madge were still around today! (if you're under 45 you probably won't "get" the Madge reference - that's for us "mature" women! ;))


1. I'm under 45 and I GOT your Madge reference so THERE! *sticks tongue out*

2. Get a cheap bottle of prenatal vitamins. Take half the recommended dose daily. For most brands, the recommended dose is 2 capsules, so only take one. If the usual dose is 1, cut it in half. Take daily for two reasons. One, you need a vitamin anyway, right? Two, the stuff that's good for making babies is good for strengthening and hardening nails. Oh, and your hair will be stronger too!

3. The e suggestion was great! If you run out of those, you can use a creamy, thick lotion every night before bed and rub some on your cuticles. If you can stand it, do the whole hand and then put a soft glove or sock on each hand. I, however, can't sleep with those things on. But some can.

4. Glass files are better than most for your nails, so you are onto something good there. However, HOW you file is as important as what you file with. One direction only is the recommended way. Honestly, I can't do that (I'm a side to side-r) but it is recommended since the sawing motion weakens nails and the bed.

5. Get a manicure. You don't have to do the polish if you don't want to. In my area, a simple mani runs about 10 American bucks. I don't do it all the time, but once I did start "regularly" (once every 8-9 weeks) getting a mani, I noticed my nails were stronger, especially the sides of the nails. The manicurist tends to file them properly, whereas I just do it any ole which way. :blink:

6. Use Sally Hansen nail products. They have a hardener that is great. Hard as Nails or something. You can't go wrong with Sally Hansen, though, if the products are available to you waaaay up there.

[suebee]

1. I'm under 45 and I GOT your Madge reference so THERE! *sticks tongue out*

2. Get a cheap bottle of prenatal vitamins. Take half the recommended dose daily. For most brands, the recommended dose is 2 capsules, so only take one. If the usual dose is 1, cut it in half. Take daily for two reasons. One, you need a vitamin anyway, right? Two, the stuff that's good for making babies is good for strengthening and hardening nails. Oh, and your hair will be stronger too!

3. The e suggestion was great! If you run out of those, you can use a creamy, thick lotion every night before bed and rub some on your cuticles. If you can stand it, do the whole hand and then put a soft glove or sock on each hand. I, however, can't sleep with those things on. But some can.

4. Glass files are better than most for your nails, so you are onto something good there. However, HOW you file is as important as what you file with. One direction only is the recommended way. Honestly, I can't do that (I'm a side to side-r) but it is recommended since the sawing motion weakens nails and the bed.

5. Get a manicure. You don't have to do the polish if you don't want to. In my area, a simple mani runs about 10 American bucks. I don't do it all the time, but once I did start "regularly" (once every 8-9 weeks) getting a mani, I noticed my nails were stronger, especially the sides of the nails. The manicurist tends to file them properly, whereas I just do it any ole which way. :blink:

6. Use Sally Hansen nail products. They have a hardener that is great. Hard as Nails or something. You can't go wrong with Sally Hansen, though, if the products are available to you waaaay up there.

Well if they're not available waaaaaay up here I can always go waaaaay down south the the United States of America and get some. (I think it's about eight miles) :raspberry:


Thanks Gemmie. :)

[Gemme]

Well if they're not available waaaaaay up here I can always go waaaaay down south the the United States of America and get some. (I think it's about eight miles) :raspberry:


Thanks Gemmie. :)

Yeah, and you have an 'in' with American stuff too. ;)

[morningstar55]

go to a horse tack store and buy a jar of corona horse hoof moisturizer. Seriously. Use it every day on your nails..rub it especially on the nail bed. Use it between coats of polish and use it before you put on fresh polish. I am telling you..your nails will be so strong and grow so long!

that stuff is awsome... i have always kept some around my house for yrs.
works great on sunburn... takes the sting away faster then anything out there...
your local Tractor Supply store sells it.

CyberSue. i see you have Tonawada posted there.... hmm I live over by Tonawanda NY ..

[suebee]

Yeah, and you have an 'in' with American stuff too. ;)

Uh.....yeah......American STUFF! That's right....... :giggle:

that stuff is awsome... i have always kept some around my house for yrs.
works great on sunburn... takes the sting away faster then anything out there...
your local Tractor Supply store sells it.

CyberSue. i see you have Tonawada posted there.... hmm I live over by Tonawanda NY ..

Well.....it's not QUITE Tonawanda.....It's more like

TOWANDA!


YouTube- Fried Green Tomatoes favourite scene1a

[Princess4u]

hummmm i will have a large shopping list of girl things this week....but never thought I would end up at tractor supply for beauty aids LOL but I am on my way

[Gemme]

My usual dietary supplement is apparently no longer being made, but the same company that made my old one is making a new one called Hair, Skin and Nails. It's by OneSource. I'm trying it out now and it seems to be working fine. I haven't noticed a negative result in using it, so I think I'm on the right track.

The pills are an odd color of green and I initially thought I'd have Incredible Hulk green pee (as some supplements tend to add colors you never knew you could produce) but I've been horribly disappointed. Normal pee. Not a trace of green. I'm thinking of writing the company and complaining. :blink:

[femmy1]

I say fake is the way to go.. the longer the better hahahah !!
I like my nails longer than my hair.. that's just me. I do solar most of the time because they don't lift like acrylics when you swim everyday like I do :) but any fake nails can be made short too so that they don't get broken.

Its all about preference

f1~

[suebee]

I am SERIOUSLY considering a manicure. The country girl in me is screaming "TRAITORRRRRRRRR!"

Damn! What's next? Makeup? :seeingstars:

[Princess4u]

Yes I think you should...gosh...if you arent getting the negative side effects that you have every right to look forward to...damn it...lets petition for green pee...sign men up...LOL thanks for the info. Have you ever tried the prenatal vitamins? Jus curious as to your thoughts! If you did i hope they didnt make you pregnant!! (well unless you wanted to be ) LOL

[Princess4u]

[QUOTE=femmy1;49514]I say fake is the way to go.. the longer the better hahahah !!
I like my nails longer than my hair.. that's just me. I do solar most of the time because they don't lift like acrylics when you swim everyday like I do :) but any fake nails can be made short too so that they don't get broken.

Its all about preference

f1~[/QUOTI am just putting this out there, more as a FYI so please dont be offended. I hate to be a debbie downer....but please becareful with nail care especially if you have artificial nails...I know! I know! you are thinking, "but damn I look good!" And sweetie ya do! But especially in recent times with the rise of community acquired staph infections, artificial nails have been proven to harbour bacteria and can provide and easy route of transmission. Some of these staph infections have been know to put ppl into the hospital. I am a nurse and and for years they have shook a naughty finger at those of us who like to wear artificial nails...but in these recent years they are banned on those persons who have direct patient contact. So just some food for thought! Please take care of your nails rather they are artificial or not. For us natural nail gals...we arent free from insult...having chips in your nails or nail polish may also harbour these bacteria....just not quite as many places for the mto hide as with the artificial nails...Again not trying to offend...just providing some info..you can go to the CDC website if you would like more info.....

[Gemme]

I am SERIOUSLY considering a manicure. The country girl in me is screaming "TRAITORRRRRRRRR!"

Damn! What's next? Makeup? :seeingstars:

Then just get a manicure, silly. You don't HAVE to have polish. Start with a simple plain manicure with no color on and see where you go from there. I promise, Dandy and I will NEVER let you look like a harlot or anything. ;)

Yes I think you should...gosh...if you arent getting the negative side effects that you have every right to look forward to...damn it...lets petition for green pee...sign men up...LOL thanks for the info. Have you ever tried the prenatal vitamins? Jus curious as to your thoughts! If you did i hope they didnt make you pregnant!! (well unless you wanted to be ) LOL

I was taking prenatals (half dose) and the company (OneSource) discontinued them in my area but now have a multivitamin called Hair, Skin and Nails. Taking prenatals was recommended to me by my hairdresser as the additional vitamins in them helps strengthen hair (what I was inquiring about at the time). I didn't want to OD on too much of a good thing with the vitamn, so I only took half a dose daily. It worked for me. I lost less hair on a daily basis (although it's normal to lose up to 100 hairs a day) and my hair seemed to get back some of the shine it had lost.

I won't credit the prenatals entirely with the change, though, because at the time I was experiencing the hair loss and breakage, I was in a very stressful home environment and, as I was taking the vitamins, I got myself OUT of that situation (which was the source of the majority of my stress and stress causes all kinds of health problems, including hair loss).

You're right though. I have a right to green pee! I should write the company and ask if they make a fun, green pee-making vitamin. :cheesy:

[luciddreamer]

Okay here is my dilemma... Because of the work I do...Antique restoration and cabinet finishing...The chemicals are very hard on my hands...fingers etc. My fingers crack on every crease and under my nails...hurts like bloody hell...lol Yes...I do wear gloves occasionally at work..and have tried various lotions..but it really does not help...Soooo any suggestions are greatly appreciated ! :flowers:

[femmy1]

none taken ! thanks for the info !!
f1~




[QUOTE=femmy1;49514]I say fake is the way to go.. the longer the better hahahah !!
I like my nails longer than my hair.. that's just me. I do solar most of the time because they don't lift like acrylics when you swim everyday like I do :) but any fake nails can be made short too so that they don't get broken.

Its all about preference

f1~[/QUOTI am just putting this out there, more as a FYI so please dont be offended. I hate to be a debbie downer....but please becareful with nail care especially if you have artificial nails...I know! I know! you are thinking, "but damn I look good!" And sweetie ya do! But especially in recent times with the rise of community acquired staph infections, artificial nails have been proven to harbour bacteria and can provide and easy route of transmission. Some of these staph infections have been know to put ppl into the hospital. I am a nurse and and for years they have shook a naughty finger at those of us who like to wear artificial nails...but in these recent years they are banned on those persons who have direct patient contact. So just some food for thought! Please take care of your nails rather they are artificial or not. For us natural nail gals...we arent free from insult...having chips in your nails or nail polish may also harbour these bacteria....just not quite as many places for the mto hide as with the artificial nails...Again not trying to offend...just providing some info..you can go to the CDC website if you would like more info.....

[Apocalipstic]

Neosporin works great on cuticles and cracks on hands.

I do get manicures maybe once a month, because pedicures help my feet hurt way less, and since I am there.....

Sally Hansen makes good products, but OPI has the best in my opinion.

I have really bad hangnails unless I have on at least one coat of polish, not sure why, but polish really helps. I think Sally Hansen makes one that is just natural and makes your nails look buffed, not sure the name. They also make great cuticle cream.

I like a single coat of light finger nail polish with a top coat beacsue I work in an office and a dark color gets all over my papers and shows chips more quickly.

Good luck!

PS...for you worriers, yes I make sure my salons are accredited and have great safety scores.

[Apocalipstic]

PS, the cold makes nails break more....wear gloves.

[Gemme]

Okay here is my dilemma... Because of the work I do...Antique restoration and cabinet finishing...The chemicals are very hard on my hands...fingers etc. My fingers crack on every crease and under my nails...hurts like bloody hell...lol Yes...I do wear gloves occasionally at work..and have tried various lotions..but it really does not help...Soooo any suggestions are greatly appreciated ! :flowers:

You could try Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand lotion or Gold Bond Medicated with Aloe. I've found both work well for me and even better if I put tons on a night and sleep with it on. It's been recommended to me to put a sock or mitten on and it will create more heat that allows the lotions to work better. While I get that, and agree, every time I've tried that, by morning the socks/gloves/mittens have come off and I have to spend a few minutes locating them in the sheets, under the bed, etc. I do, however, notice the difference when I at least try to do that.

[suebee]

You could try Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand lotion or Gold Bond Medicated with Aloe. I've found both work well for me and even better if I put tons on a night and sleep with it on. It's been recommended to me to put a sock or mitten on and it will create more heat that allows the lotions to work better. While I get that, and agree, every time I've tried that, by morning the socks/gloves/mittens have come off and I have to spend a few minutes locating them in the sheets, under the bed, etc. I do, however, notice the difference when I at least try to do that.

....and it makes the socks/gloves/mittens nice 'n soft too. ;)

The cream I mentioned before is great too - Glysomed. It's really thick, but not greasy and absorbs well.

[Princess4u]

i was just reading the last post..and I got to thinking...has anyone every tried those home parafen hand baths..? now i remember it seemed to make my nails thin as tissue paper..but (and this is where the thinking got started) i was wondering if anyone applied some of these hand and nail products prior to dipping in the wax...i wonder what that would do???? just a thought for anyone who has one...i gave mine away years agao..but as I recall i dont think they are all the expensive at walmart...well jsut a thought...thanks everyone...

[Gemme]

i was just reading the last post..and I got to thinking...has anyone every tried those home parafen hand baths..? now i remember it seemed to make my nails thin as tissue paper..but (and this is where the thinking got started) i was wondering if anyone applied some of these hand and nail products prior to dipping in the wax...i wonder what that would do???? just a thought for anyone who has one...i gave mine away years agao..but as I recall i dont think they are all the expensive at walmart...well jsut a thought...thanks everyone...

Princess, I've had the parafin wax treatments at salons and they are wonderful! I do have a kit for it at home, but haven't broken it in yet. That being said, the manicurist always did the treatment before my manicure and always made me wash my hands before I dipped so I wouldn't contaminate the wax. I imagine that using those products and then dipping it would break the wax down and/or contaminate it so it wasn't pure. I'm definitely no expert, but that's what makes sense to me.

[Kim]

Why, oh why, is the "nail me" thread so buried? This is a thread of utmost importance. I don't think it was mentioned -- but water, glugging glorious water, can do wonders for nails. Also Biotin. Gemme's right that prenatal vitamins are great for the nails -- enough nutrients for mommy and baby, what more can a girl ask for?

Dusting off Ruby Pumps for my next mani (thanks, Medusa)...one of my favorite colors.

[AtLast]

JeepSakes.... thought this thread was about something entirely different.... maybe carpentry.... types of nail guns... who knew!!??

:winky:

:hiding:

[Soft*Silver]

silly butch!

reminds me of the old aol chat room days when I entered a chat room titled "Women who love dogs" I thought we were going to talk about our pooches...

mmmmm :pointing: not exactly....never went in THERE again!!!!:eyebrow:


JeepSakes.... thought this thread was about something entirely different.... maybe carpentry.... types of nail guns... who knew!!??

:winky:

:hiding:

[AtLast]

silly butch!

reminds me of the old aol chat room days when I entered a chat room titled "Women who love dogs" I thought we were going to talk about our pooches...

mmmmm :pointing: not exactly....never went in THERE again!!!!:eyebrow:

OMG!! ROLF!! Sorry... couldn't resist... please don't hit me :scared:

[Ms. Tabitha]

I say fake is the way to go.. the longer the better hahahah !!
I like my nails longer than my hair.. that's just me. I do solar most of the time because they don't lift like acrylics when you swim everyday like I do :) but any fake nails can be made short too so that they don't get broken.

Its all about preference

f1~

I love the solar look but have used Fiberglass and Silk. My nails are long and I keep an overlay on them to protect them.
I'm in the salon a minimum of 4 times a month for mani/pedi's.

I have recently tried MINX and think its something I would do on Holidays and probably only on my toes.

:coffee:

[KayCee]

I have 'gel nails', french manicured with brilliant white tips, medium long that I get 're-newed' every four weeks.

For soft hands: use some plain white sugar and add almond oil. Rub in, until sugar is dissolved and rinse.

Leaves 'em really, really soft, gives your nails a nice shine and is great for cuticles too!

Kat

[KayCee]

JeepSakes.... thought this thread was about something entirely different.... maybe carpentry.... types of nail guns... who knew!!??

:winky:

:hiding:


hmmm..typical!..LOL!

[PearlsNLace]

I love the look, and the feel of artificial nails. But I wont wear them anymore. :( I took a microbiology class that had us compare the bacteria growth in a petri dish of 2 classmates who had just washed their hands for equal amount of time, using the same soap and technique.

The amount of bacteria growing in the petri dish the woman with fake nails vs the one who didnt OMG it was really gross. Seriously. There was no growth in the other dish.

Sad, but now every time I start wishing for those nails, I see those little cresent moons of fuzz in that petri dish and sigh.
:crybaby:

[MsTinkerbelly]

Short and simple French Manicure on my fingers, and Red Hot Cherry on my toes....:freak:

[AtLast]

Actually, I have a serious question to ask. Even though I can mess up my hands with all the yard work and gardening, I do, I like my nails to look good when I go out, etc. And I don't want my hands to have rough skin, which is usually the case. Can't possibly feel good to hold hands with me.

What does work well to keep nails and hands from being rough? To be honest, I buy whatever lotion is on sale most of the time and have no idea what ingredients really do help to soften hands. Also, would it make a difference to get manicures? I have never had a manicure in my life. My Mom and sisters never did either, or my Dad and brother. Just wasn't part of my household.

[Soft*Silver]

well, personally I like my butches to have a bit of roughness on their hands. Feels good against my soft skin...

but to answer your question...use gloves. Seriously No cream will replace the damage working in your garden will do to your fingers and nails.

Manicures are good if you are doing fake nails, IMHO, and nothing else. I wouldnt pay someone to file my nails and paint them when I can easily do that on my own. I know some men get manicures but I truly feel its a waste of money.

Here's some tips...

when you get out of the shower, push back your cuticles. That will help with the tearing. DONT cut them. Makes it worse.

I wait until I am mostly dried off and then I file my nails, After filing, if I put on some cream and get it into my skin and nail areas.

If you want, get a clear hard as nails Sally Hanson polish...it will give your nails a coat that will keep them strong...

hope this helps...

[Lillie]

I keep my nails cause my daddy loves me to rake them down hys back...hmmm..."looks at the clock" daddy will be home soon!

hy likes mine long with american manicur...i was always partial to color and sometimes my special reward will be color for my tips!....but I hve come to love the manicure because hy admires and loves it on me....i love seeing that pleasure in hys eyes

[Ldyluck88]

I love clean fingernails, regardless of gender! I prefer to do my nails/pedicure myself. A few yrs. ago I got a fungus on my toe from a nail salon and it took forever to clear it up. I love the French manicure look, as it makes my hands/toes look so clean and fresh!

[Starbuck]

Yes, if you're a hardworking girl such as yourself it must be a challenge! :)

My number one problem is that my nails break at the slightest provocation. I'm sure I can improve that a little if I get the right products. They're healthy, just fragile.

Number two problem - and I'm currently trying to deal with this - is my cuticles. If I could sell them by the pound I'd be a rich woman. If only Madge were still around today! (if you're under 45 you probably won't "get" the Madge reference - that's for us "mature" women! ;))

Hey, I'm only 38 and I remember! Perhaps I was just real perceptive?

[katsarecool]

To bring luster and shine- get a file
Amazon.com: Sephora Brand 4-Step Buffer: Beauty (http://www.amazon.com/Sephora-Brand-4-Step-Buffer/dp/B000S6BUFA/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_3)

simply follow the steps- numbers. It will buff your nails to a beautiful sexy shine and all natural. You will love itI bought those years ago and they are wonderful!!!! I wish I could grow my nails long but I have a protesting grandson who likes to play Catch Me If You Can and I accidentally scratched him. So I keep them not too short but love to wear nail polish in warm peach tones.

Sally Hansen's Hard As Nails is an awesome product for keep the nails hard as nails. LOL

[JAGG]

Dang the title of this thread is so misleading. What a disappointment !!:twitch:

[diamondrose]

My nails look strong, but break easily. Alos, my job doesn't help matters. I tryed fake nails once, that last all of 1 hours. I couldn't tolerate them. I try to groom my nails as often as possible and once a month I'll go get a mani.

[justkim]

In runs the nail tech... yep licensed and everything... I have read this whole thread and have some information to share... but I think I need to be awake more to do so... For those of you having issues with dry and cracking hands try some of the same product that nursing women use on their nipples... I know, I know... but is is made from lanolin and is safe and it will absorbed into the nail bed and cuticle keeping them moisturized, thus helping to prevent cracking and peeling of the natural nail... As for nails, acrylic, gel, wraps and overlays there are so many products out there today it will make you head spin... Polishes, now that is a whole different creature in its self... then we could totally get into the new gel polishes... everyone is jumping on that band wagon... Okay more later going to have my ribs x-rayed... Happy nailing everyone!

[HoneyedChrysanthemum]

Actually, I have a serious question to ask. Even though I can mess up my hands with all the yard work and gardening, I do, I like my nails to look good when I go out, etc. And I don't want my hands to have rough skin, which is usually the case. Can't possibly feel good to hold hands with me.

What does work well to keep nails and hands from being rough? To be honest, I buy whatever lotion is on sale most of the time and have no idea what ingredients really do help to soften hands. Also, would it make a difference to get manicures? I have never had a manicure in my life. My Mom and sisters never did either, or my Dad and brother. Just wasn't part of my household.
olive oil works wonders on softening skin! one a week i treat myself to an olive oil massage and rub olive oil everywhere from hair to feet! then i sit for awhile in a warm bath tub or get dressed in old clothes and put a towel around my hair and work around the house. the olive oil is great for conditioning your hair-makes it very soft and shiny. it works on calluses, so if you have rough feet, rub your feet w.olive oil at night and put on nice warm socks. after a few days-no calluses! i rub it every day on my hands ,esp, around my nails and cuticles. makes your nails look like you've had a manicure! it's my shin, hair, and nail cure-all! i like to use extra-virgin. better quality, plus i like the smell. *laughs* of course, you might have to put up with comments about smelling like a salad. then you might issue an invitation to...LoL.
pres :tea: pouring morning tea for all you wonderful femmes! :moonstars:
ps-i also like a little roughness in a butch's hand!

[justkim]

Dashes back in...
I promise once I have my school work for the next week taken care of I will be back in to share some information and some helpful hints...
If I can remember...
This is me lately... :seeingstars: an hour and a half worth of sleep tends to make a person feel loopy...
Catch everyone later...

[Miss Scarlett]

Olive oil is amazing stuff! I buy more for cosmetic reasons than for cooking. I use it for facials, make up removal and for cuticles. I also mix up my own hot oil treatment for my hair. Am still working on a better blend for body/massage oil.

For the last year I have been giving my nails a break from silk wraps. Not sure if I want to go back to wraps. But after examination of my hands this evening, I may opt for a monthlly manicure. Pedis not so much, perhaps in the warmer weather (if it ever returns) or special occasions - my feet are very ticklish.

Oh yes...rough butch hands are truly wonderful!

[DomnNC]

Dang the title of this thread is so misleading. What a disappointment !!:twitch:

Lol, I was just thinking that too!

[Greco]

Agreed.

Greco

[Gemme]

It's not misleading, fellas. It's tongue in cheek. And a pretty darn easy way to get butches and FTMs in here.

:eyebat:

[DomnNC]

It's not misleading, fellas. It's tongue in cheek. And a pretty darn easy way to get butches and FTMs in here.

:eyebat:

Chuckles, pretty darn sneaky!

[lespere]

My favorite nail tool is a glass nail file.They're normally fairly pricey, but my girl found one at a surplus store for Six bucks. Unfortunately it got broken, and I haven't been able to find one as nice since. If you've never tried a really thin glass file then you don't know what you're missing.


Glass nail files are available from Amazon and Sephora - after seeing them mentioned here I added them to my Holiday shopping list :)
http://www.amazon.com/SEPHORA-COLLECTION-Glass-Nail-Files/dp/B001U3QLJ0 (Sephora Glass file at Amazon)
So thanks!

Nails are my hobby of the year for 2010, and I had a lot of fun with Konad nail stamping, they also have some great simple french tip style stamp. Basically you can stamp little icons or designs onto your nails, it's actually quite quick!

For self polishing, practice practice practice, when I started I could barely polish my right hand better than a 5 year old. Now I'm much faster and enjoy the creative aspects a lot more.

For great long lasting Polish and less chipping nails ( I work all day on a computer keyboard) Seche Vite is the absolutely best top coat every. I do 2 coats and can type all week and my nails wil stay whole for a whole week and sometimes longer.

[Jill_Anne]

I'm one of them there girly girls...and I have acrylic nails..they are short to look like real nails. Im a teacher I dont' want long fang nails and I can't type on the computer with them. SOmetimes its hard to tell if mine are real or fake.

I go every two weeks to get them done. IF that is not up your alley..i think going every month or so to get a simple mani, where they clear coat your nails and just shape them is good.

[justkim]

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back in here to squelch some of the Myths surrounding nail enhancements. I love what I do and I do what I love so for me finding what works for my clients matters. Whether it is working with their natural nail or adding an enhancement, be it gel or acrylic. I am providing a link to one of the Nail industry's magazines. Please feel free to ask me questions, if I don't know the answer I will find the information for you. Also, take a look at the other articles found on this website. Have a fantastic day!

http://www.nailsmag.com/page/91131/handouts#clients

Feel free to look at all of the other article meant for Nail Technicians

[DamselFly]

i used to be a high femme, high maintenance, the whole thing. as i've gotten older, Taoist/Buddhist, i've simplified my life a great deal. the last FtM i was involved with, however, adored my hands and liked my nails long, saying they brought out the elegance of my hands even more. the rest he did not care about, xixiTao. after i came out here to the country, though, i've let that go, too. well, the length of the nails. that just got in the way of general work. but i do keep them up. i take vitamins and eat healthily. and i've discovered Sally Hansen's Complete Salon Manicure. this is a wonderful polish-base coat, strengthener, and top coat, all in one polish! i use only Sally Hansen products, hough as i'm getting more environmentally conscious in this area (nails), i'm looking for a comparable one that's greener. my nails are the only remnant of the high femme i used to be. i do enjoy giving or getting a manicure and polishing my nails a pretty colour. i generally go for corals or mauves now. no loud reds for me.
namaste,
DamselFly:tea:

[justkim]

As a nail tech I try so very hard to keep people educated. If there is anything I can help any of you with let me know. If I don't know it I will find the information for you.

DamselFly, I know what it is like to be dedicated to a certain product, you may however give Sparitual or Nubar a try. I do like Essie products and Zoya and I must not forget OPI. Here are a couple of links.

http://theveganproject.ca/category/beauty-on-the-outside/

or try this one

http://www.bynubar.com/store/pages/CrueltyFreeVegan.html

http://www.zoya.com/

Enjoy!

[gaea]

this thread....

I keep my nails long and polished i spend nearly two hours a week on them myself. This is my time for me.

I have tried in the past overlay to keep them protected however any product other then polish actually hurts after about a week, seems to be to heavy for my nails.

[Quintease]

Oh fabulous! Another thread that I desperately need :bowdown:

I've only been wearing nail polish for a few months and ITS EATING MY NAILS!!! I have major breakage on every single nail and have now been forced to cut them all down to the quick. Why is nail polish, considering I use a decent nail hardener, ruining my nails?

[justkim]

I have to ask what you are using for nail polish? What nail hardener are you using? How long have you had the product? Although I am NOT a doctor your best line of defense is to go and see one. I can make suggestions as to what could possibly be going on but that won't do you any good unless you take action by seeing your physician. Our skin, hair, and nails are one of the first things that show sign of a underlying issue, please by all means get seen. In the mean time stop all use of nail products use something that is hydrating for you nails, I suggest lanolin as the molecular composition allows for easy absorption and it is natural (for the most part) and hydrate your body with water. Please keep us updated as to what transpires.



QUOTE=Quintease;315449]Oh fabulous! Another thread that I desperately need :bowdown:

I've only been wearing nail polish for a few months and ITS EATING MY NAILS!!! I have major breakage on every single nail and have now been forced to cut them all down to the quick. Why is nail polish, considering I use a decent nail hardener, ruining my nails?[/QUOTE]

[Quintease]

I have to ask what you are using for nail polish? What nail hardener are you using? How long have you had the product? Although I am NOT a doctor your best line of defense is to go and see one. I can make suggestions as to what could possibly be going on but that won't do you any good unless you take action by seeing your physician. Our skin, hair, and nails are one of the first things that show sign of a underlying issue, please by all means get seen. In the mean time stop all use of nail products use something that is hydrating for you nails, I suggest lanolin as the molecular composition allows for easy absorption and it is natural (for the most part) and hydrate your body with water. Please keep us updated as to what transpires.

Really? :|

Actually now that you mention it my hair is also really thin and brittle at the moment. If it's a nutrition thing I'd be completely astonished as normally my diet is rubbish, but my bf has been force-feeding me healthy food. I'll try the hydration route, thank you!

[justkim]

Really? :|

Actually now that you mention it my hair is also really thin and brittle at the moment. If it's a nutrition thing I'd be completely astonished as normally my diet is rubbish, but my bf has been force-feeding me healthy food. I'll try the hydration route, thank you!


Quintease, I think it would be important for you to have some blood work done to have a couple of things checked out. My experience tells me you should see your doctor, sometimes it is something so simple as a deficiency that is easily resolved either with medication. Keep us posted.

I don't think you ever said what kind of polish you were using, care to share? Since everyone has a different idea of what is a good product it would be nice to know what other folks are using for nail care products. For me I use OPI and Zoya, both of them are excellent products. I have recently started using OPI Axxium gel polishes in the salon I work in, they last a long time and remain shiny until they are removed. Ask your local salon about this product. Until later...

Happy Polishing!

[Tcountry]

...so thinking some of it could just be genetics &/or diet...
<<<<<------good nails & great (so I have been told) nail beds..
Dunno how or why...
But all I have done for a LONG time is make sure cuticles are pushed down, under nail is clean, & Eucerin lotion my fingers so they don't crack(no dyes or smells...cause I am allergic to most of those)

And if doing things that will possibly hurt ur hands...wear latex or leather gloves. :)

[gaea]

omg i have been having my nails done at the shop getting the gel set because my manicures last longer...

oh holy hell I hate junk mail well ULTA sent me a catalog and they now have red carpet gel for sale geez...i love doing my own nails it gives me some me time ...

im freaking stoked they have 36 colors currently available and the the cure warmer.

has anyone used this product?

i damn near had an orgasm i kid you not!

im going shopping...ill let you all know what i think ....shit and i hate shopping i probably have more nail polish than is necessary however i just cant help myself!

[gaea]

omg i have been having my nails done at the shop getting the gel set because my manicures last longer...

oh holy hell I hate junk mail well ULTA sent me a catalog and they now have red carpet gel for sale geez...i love doing my own nails it gives me some me time ...

im freaking stoked they have 36 colors currently available and the the cure warmer.

has anyone used this product?

i damn near had an orgasm i kid you not!


im going shopping...ill let you all know what i think ....shit and i hate shopping i probably have more nail polish than is necessary however i just cant help myself!

oh my goodness i am so incredibly disappointed sheesh my local ulta did not carry all 5 items needed to get me started with the gel manicure thus forcing me to have the sales clerk call all the other ultas in my area trust me i was willing to drive if i could have it all today......only to find out that none of the stores within a 30 mile radius had all 5 products at once...thus forcing me to go online and place an order for all 5.

10 day wait...im so excited....i find i can hardly wait.

[Abigail Crabby]

I have tried growing my own nails to no avail. I used to have acrylics and stopped doing them for over a year. used nail hardners etc, and still they broke at every turn.

I am going monday to have my acrylics done again. I have some of the cutest nail designs I got for valentines day that I am going to have applied while I am there. Waste not ..want not I say lol

I'm actually bouncing back and forth from getting them done in a nice french tip or my usual CMF red that I adore. i suppose I will make up my mind when I get there lol

[gaea]

I have tried growing my own nails to no avail. I used to have acrylics and stopped doing them for over a year. used nail hardners etc, and still they broke at every turn.

I am going monday to have my acrylics done again. I have some of the cutest nail designs I got for valentines day that I am going to have applied while I am there. Waste not ..want not I say lol

I'm actually bouncing back and forth from getting them done in a nice french tip or my usual CMF red that I adore. i suppose I will make up my mind when I get there lol


may i suggest some vitamin b complex to help with your natural nails that and the gel manicures will assist in helping your nails grow out without tearing them up.

[justkim]

may i suggest some vitamin b complex to help with your natural nails that and the gel manicures will assist in helping your nails grow out without tearing them up.

*wanders in... I need to say something here as to what will tear your nails up... It is NOT the product (unless it is MMA, which is used in most of the cheap nail places) it is the application that can ruin your nail beds. This is the kind of misinformation that makes me mad! I have acrylic on my nails and they grow out just fine.
The nail industry has come a long way from the old school ways of totally tearing up the nail bed in order to get the product to adhere. The product I use only requires that I remove the *shine* off of the natural nail, nothing more.

P.S. Gel nails are the SAME as Acrylic, they are made up of the same thing, just applied in a different manner.

[gaea]

*wanders in... I need to say something here as to what will tear your nails up... It is NOT the product (unless it is MMA, which is used in most of the cheap nail places) it is the application that can ruin your nail beds. This is the kind of misinformation that makes me mad! I have acrylic on my nails and they grow out just fine.
The nail industry has come a long way from the old school ways of totally tearing up the nail bed in order to get the product to adhere. The product I use only requires that I remove the *shine* off of the natural nail, nothing more.

P.S. Gel nails are the SAME as Acrylic, they are made up of the same thing, just applied in a different manner.

Good to know, i had no idea about that. my experience has been as follows

Acrylics sit heavy on my nails and begin to hurt really bad after a week or so. I cannot wear them. I have tried over the years.

I have found the gel to not sit heavy and actually can wear it longer.

what causes the breakage weakness from acrylics and or gels?

ps i wasnt trying to make anyone/you mad

[Chancie]

I had the most fabulous manicure over the summer.

It was a kind of gel that was cured with a little lamp.

I had a deep dark blue that was so gorgeous, but

I was swimming in a chlorinated pool a few days a week, and

My nails were shredding apart underneath the nice hard polish.

[gaea]

I had the most fabulous manicure over the summer.

It was a kind of gel that was cured with a little lamp.

I had a deep dark blue that was so gorgeous, but

I was swimming in a chlorinated pool a few days a week, and

My nails were shredding apart underneath the nice hard polish.


uh oh..that cant be good.

I swim, i don't have issues like that. is it that chlorine is just no good for fingernails in general?

[Gemme]

uh oh..that cant be good.

I swim, i don't have issues like that. is it that chlorine is just no good for fingernails in general?

Chlorine is not good for us, period. It dries and damages hair, nails and skin.

However, it's a necessary evil for pools, jacuzzis, etc.

[SugarLips]

I think the best thing you can do for your nails (skin & hair, too) is to make sure you are getting enough vitamins and minerals. Your overall health and medications you may be taking can effect your nails and breakage as well.

One thing I love to do is once a week take some time to really pamper myself. I take a long bath, put a mask on my face and give myself a good hand and foot massage... It's even better if you have someone else to help!

[justkim]

gaea, it is more the misinformation that pisses me off. I am not upset with you, I am upset with the person who told you this bull-crap...
what ruins the natural nail is illegal products that contain MMA and a heavy handed tech. Most of the non traditional nail places use bigger brushes that contain more of the monomer and you are bound to have it get on the cuticle area which in turn causes over exposure. Let me see if I can find the article I hand out when I taught. I will work on finding it later this week. Sorry for the rant...

**puts her soap box away...

[gaea]

gaea, it is more the misinformation that pisses me off. I am not upset with you, I am upset with the person who told you this bull-crap...
what ruins the natural nail is illegal products that contain MMA and a heavy handed tech. Most of the non traditional nail places use bigger brushes that contain more of the monomer and you are bound to have it get on the cuticle area which in turn causes over exposure. Let me see if I can find the article I hand out when I taught. I will work on finding it later this week. Sorry for the rant...

**puts her soap box away...


thanks Kim that is very kind of you and i would appreciate any information you can pass along to me.

taking care of my nails is important to me and i get great satisfaction from doing them myself.

[gaea]

With Ultas Red Carpet Manicure Gel...

I followed the instructions to a tee...the gel took hours to set even having my nails under the light as instructed ....

I think im going to save my money and invest in the "gelish" brand and the light system. The gelish brand is what my nail tech uses when i can go to see her so i already know that is a brand that sets properly with the light system.

[SecretAgentMa'am]

I have terrible nails. They barely grow, and when I do get a little length on them, they bend and tear. They are getting better, though, because I found a fantastic product. Nail-aid Collagen Nail Builder. I know a lot of people love Sally Hansen products, but I've always found them to be lacking. Never did a thing for me. Also, Sally Hansen products are animal tested, which is a deal-breaker for me. Nail-aid is made in the USA, not animal tested, and contains no DBP, toluene, or formaldehyde. It's fabulous stuff. The Collagen Nail Builder promises visibly longer, stronger nails in one week, and it absolutely delivers. My nails still have a way to go to be truly healthy, but I can definitely see progress.

[Rivkeh]

I have terrible nails. They barely grow, and when I do get a little length on them, they bend and tear. My nails still have a way to go to be truly healthy, but I can definitely see progress.

...okay, this year I have started having Shellac CND done when I have a manicure and it is amazing! The colors and the lustre stay beautiful for 2 plus weeks....before that I was having manicures with regular OPI nail polish and was lucky if I got three days. The other great thing about Shellac is that it keeps your nails strong, and therefore you get better growth.

[BugsAndKisses]

I can't wait to try this! 2kcdt4_5Ncc&feature

[SecretAgentMa'am]

I can't wait to try this!

That is so many different kinds of awesome. I'm totally doing this after my next manicure.

[Medusa]

For anyone who has done the shellac manicures, I found a product that I am in LOVE with:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/Arterbery2000/The%20Glamazons%20Blog/SensatioNAIL_StarterA9A891.jpg


This is called "Sensationail" by Nailene. It's a kit that costs about $50 and they have about 12 different colors.
The kit comes with the LED light and all the stuff you need. It takes about 10 minutes to do your nails and they are hard as a rock after.

I am in LOVE.

This ends up costing less than $5 per manicure!

[Talon]

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

[Gemme]

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

[Princess]

The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

I love shellac! My nails stay pretty much flawless for at least 3 weeks. They have kits you can buy to do them at home now too, but I trust that I will mess them up if I do lol!

[Princess]

I can't wait to try this! 2kcdt4_5Ncc&feature

Curious, did you ever do this? When I tried it was quite a bit messy and it didn't turn out like I had hoped...(do they ever?)

[justkim]

What type of gel are you thinking about? Something along the line of Shellac by CND, OPI also has a version, actually there are many versions out there. Although you can use acrylic and gel together the person doing the process should be able to do it right. I would suggest finding someone in your area that uses Young Nails. It is the product I use as a licensed nail tech/cosmetologist. I have used OPI and the CND Shellac of those two I prefer OPI. As far as tips go, I only sculpt my nails and steer clear of using tips, mind you this is just my preference and may not be something your nail tech does.
I wish you luck in finding what works for you.



Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

[starryeyes]

I wish I could grow my nails naturally, but I can't. I usually bite them (yuck!) but it's a habit I have never been able to break. So.. I get the fakes. I get acrylics with gel. This serves two purposes, long nails (ya!) and no more biting. I spend about 60.00 a month on fills and about 30 for a new set which need to be replaced every 6 weeks. It's kinda expensive, but I like it! It just HURTS like a mutha when I have to get the old ones ripped off and new ones put on. Every time I say I'm not gonna do it, and just get a regular manicure but I always change my mind lol :)

[starryeyes]

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

When I get my acrylic tips, they put a clear gel on top instead of a top coat. You have to put your hands under a UV light for 3 min so they dry. My nails look perfect until my next fill, always. You can pick a color if you want too. They have all kinds of gel colors at my nail salon.

[justkim]

Starry, why are you having your acrylic nails replaced? There is NO reason to have them removed. EVERY time they *rip* off the acrylic they are taking more of your natural nail. This is what makes the natural nail weak and causes damage that really can not ever be undone. I will guess by the price you are stating here is that you go to a non-traditional nail salon? It should NOT be painful to get your nails done! If it is hurting during the service or after find a different salon. I have all of my clients to their natural nails, they just have an overlay of either acrylic or gel. Nails is what I do, staying educated is important to me so I am sorry if this comes off as being mean. If you have any questions please by all means send me a pm.


I wish I could grow my nails naturally, but I can't. I usually bite them (yuck!) but it's a habit I have never been able to break. So.. I get the fakes. I get acrylics with gel. This serves two purposes, long nails (ya!) and no more biting. I spend about 60.00 a month on fills and about 30 for a new set which need to be replaced every 6 weeks. It's kinda expensive, but I like it! It just HURTS like a mutha when I have to get the old ones ripped off and new ones put on. Every time I say I'm not gonna do it, and just get a regular manicure but I always change my mind lol :)

[starryeyes]

Starry, why are you having your acrylic nails replaced? There is NO reason to have them removed. EVERY time they *rip* off the acrylic they are taking more of your natural nail. This is what makes the natural nail weak and causes damage that really can not ever be undone. I will guess by the price you are stating here is that you go to a non-traditional nail salon? It should NOT be painful to get your nails done! If it is hurting during the service or after find a different salon. I have all of my clients to their natural nails, they just have an overlay of either acrylic or gel. Nails is what I do, staying educated is important to me so I am sorry if this comes off as being mean. If you have any questions please by all means send me a pm.

I go to a Vietnamese nail salon. I have had my nails done for over 15 years and I always have to get them replaced. They use a white tip or a now a white powder that eventually grows out and needs to be replaced. I know it hurts like a mutha! Maybe it doesn't need to be done, maybe it's a money making scheme who knows. I have been to many nail salons and they always do this tho.

[justkim]

There really is no reason for this other than to take your money. It can be replaced without removing everything. I do it all of the time for my clients, who say it is now nice to know that getting your nails done shouldn't hurt.
Where are you at in San Diego? I might be able to hook you up with a salon that might make getting your nails done not so painful...


I go to a Vietnamese nail salon. I have had my nails done for over 15 years and I always have to get them replaced. They use a white tip or a now a white powder that eventually grows out and needs to be replaced. I know it hurts like a mutha! Maybe it doesn't need to be done, maybe it's a money making scheme who knows. I have been to many nail salons and they always do this tho.

[apretty]

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

I've been having this done for about 6 months--Shellac is used at my salon.

[CA_BabyCakes]

Has anyone here tried a "gel" manicure, yet? I've heard they last a long time. And do you know if you can get one if you have tips w/acrylic?

I found that when i put gel on french tip nails sometimes the gel discolors after about a week. The gel is thick and not removable with nail polish remover so when it discolors i have to return and have it professionally removed. I went back to just using clear coat, which i can remove and reapply myself.

[Talon]

The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.

Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

[Talon]

What type of gel are you thinking about? Something along the line of Shellac by CND, OPI also has a version, actually there are many versions out there. Although you can use acrylic and gel together the person doing the process should be able to do it right. I would suggest finding someone in your area that uses Young Nails. It is the product I use as a licensed nail tech/cosmetologist. I have used OPI and the CND Shellac of those two I prefer OPI. As far as tips go, I only sculpt my nails and steer clear of using tips, mind you this is just my preference and may not be something your nail tech does.
I wish you luck in finding what works for you.


Thanks for the info, justkim...I will have to look into the sculptured nails as a possible option. Are they as strong as acrylic?

[vixenagogo]

Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

[Talon]

a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).






Thanks for clearing the gel/shellac thing up. And also the acrylic/gel thing, too. :groucho:

[justkim]

Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

Talon, more damage is done by the nail tech to the natural nail when they are not trained properly. ALL of my clients could go without nail enhancements if that is what they chose to do. But they don't. I take any and all classes that are offered to me so that I can provide the most current and up to date information to my clients.
You can put gel over acrylic, but proper steps need to be taken to make sure you get the best adhesion.

[justkim]

a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

[Gemme]

Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).


There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.

[justkim]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/426413_3309450465745_1552598516_32962589_994335806 _n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428308_3309451985783_1552598516_32962593_278289671 _n.jpg

[Beloved]

I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

[justkim]

Go ahead and pamper yourself... Do it when it is cold too... Your feet will thank you...



I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

[Talon]

Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.

*chuckle*....I'm in the water quite a lot too, especially in summer, so the shellac sounds perfect for me.
Thanks, for everyone's response, I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. :lips:

[girl_dee]

I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!

[Beloved]

me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!

I've never seen a place that uses basins. What you wrote scares me!

[Beloved]

Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!

[justkim]

Beloved, be careful with leaving your files in a bag. This can encourage the growth of undesirable types of bacteria also. I also use the drop in disposable liners. They are worth their weight in gold and the peace of mind they bring to clients is invaluable. Glad you found someone who makes you comfortable.





Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!

[Ms. Tabitha]

I find 'Duck Nails' disturbing

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/duck2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/Duck-feet5_buzzfeed.jpg

Would you wear your nails this way?

[femmsational]

I find 'Duck Nails' disturbing

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/duck2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/Duck-feet5_buzzfeed.jpg

Would you wear your nails this way?





Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie

[Ms. Tabitha]

Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie

I agree Julie ~ I may not have my makeup on and my hair may be pulled back in a ponytail but, my nails and especially my feet, are done :)

I could hurt myself with those nails :blink: or someone else :blush:
I don't think you would be able to wear closed toe shoes if your toes had the 'flare' on them, could you?

Imagine the pain if one of them broke?

[justkim]

Ummm... NO! Not only No but ummm... hell no... I have seen some crazy trends come and go when it comes to nails. This is NOT an option I wish to entertain. I have done them on a client, she loved them...
To each their own...





I find 'Duck Nails' disturbing

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/duck2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/tabithaintx/Duck-feet5_buzzfeed.jpg

Would you wear your nails this way?

[femmsational]

I agree Julie ~ I may not have my makeup on and my hair may be pulled back in a ponytail but, my nails and especially my feet, are done :)

I could hurt myself with those nails :blink: or someone else :blush:
I don't think you would be able to wear closed toe shoes if your toes had the 'flare' on them, could you?

Imagine the pain if one of them broke?

I don't want to imagine the pain!!! :blink: Youch!!!

I didn't think about what I might do to someone else with them. ummmm...something to ponder. hehehe :jester:

[gaea]

ok stepping out n trying something new for me
the sally hansen nail sticker polish its cute

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d170/hstigen/a71ad08a.jpg

this is called booty something or other...i like that it is pink camouflage.

the probelem with things like this is they make them for gals with tiny nails and mine are not tiny at all they are wide and well my middle fingers arent quite covered fully however i like the fun aspect to it and they were easy to apply. I have matching painted pink toes.

[DMW]

Ok...:shocking:my dirty mind. please forgive...i see...femmezone...Nail me...and all i can think is...Ok. can i?

[Medusa]

Had my nails done today! LOVE the new color I'm trying - It's OPI "Lincoln Park After Dark" and is a delicious shade of vampirella bloody-black. It's almost a cigar color.

I found an example out on the interwebz:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2cvb4uhYCL4/Tprw3r2CHvI/AAAAAAAAAIs/PMEWfQ-P4d8/s1600/IMG_2484.jpg

Needless to say, LOVE the Fall/Winter colors! Deep reds, dark mahoganies, plums, even blacks and grays!!

[Bèsame*]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2KkrDEfYURiXeNxEKBmYi2-XvaNPmVRblYDnuWEuU-R3epdUp

I just painted mine, Black Cherry Chutney, OPI.

I love fall colors!

[Medusa]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2KkrDEfYURiXeNxEKBmYi2-XvaNPmVRblYDnuWEuU-R3epdUp

I just painted mine, Black Cherry Chutney, OPI.

I love fall colors!




NICE! I love that color and LOVE the shimmer! I'll have to look for that the next time I go get mine done ;)

[fatallyblonde]

there's already been plenty of great advice here so I don't really need to add to it except to say if you want instant glam talons... or even just durable, pretty nails... consider acrylics or gel nails... I have two inch long talons and I love them... I am all about nail art... the next level of accessorising... you can see my work at getnailedau.tumblr.com ... acrylics and gels are strong and tough and you can custom size and shape them easily... so good!

[Medusa]

I might be having a bit of shock.

I cut my nails down last night after wearing them super-duper long for the last couple of years. (like, close to an inch long at times)
I wanted to give my nails some time to rest before I start up with the overlays again so, for now, it's going to be all about shape and nourishing and painting them all sorts of fun colors.

*sigh* My nails grow fast so it won't be long before they are talons again but needless to say... HUGE change.

[girl_dee]

i am SO overdue for a Pedi... and i may actually get a mani for the first time in about 10 years .....one day.. maybe...

[dark_crystal]

My nails grow fast, long, and strong but any nail polish i put on makes them brittle (and also gets extremely chipped before i can ever find time to touch it up.)

My solution is this:

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ZXU_KpXXXXb0apXXq6xXFXXXW/2pcs-set-font-b-Buffing-b-font-font-b-Cream-b-font-with-font-b-Buffing.jpg

The cream is KEY!!! If you get the buffing cream and use it with a chamois buffer, your nails literally look like you're wearing several coats a clear top coat

And it needs zero drying time

Kind of a lot of elbow grease though

[Chained Daisy]

I might be having a bit of shock.

I cut my nails down last night after wearing them super-duper long for the last couple of years. (like, close to an inch long at times)
I wanted to give my nails some time to rest before I start up with the overlays again so, for now, it's going to be all about shape and nourishing and painting them all sorts of fun colors.

*sigh* My nails grow fast so it won't be long before they are talons again but needless to say... HUGE change.

I cut mine down the other day too because they were actually starting to hurt, a lot of sensitivity under the nail and as soon as they were cut back they were comfortable again. I`m far more adventurous with colours when my nails are shorter.

[Gemme]

I might be having a bit of shock.

I cut my nails down last night after wearing them super-duper long for the last couple of years. (like, close to an inch long at times)
I wanted to give my nails some time to rest before I start up with the overlays again so, for now, it's going to be all about shape and nourishing and painting them all sorts of fun colors.

*sigh* My nails grow fast so it won't be long before they are talons again but needless to say... HUGE change.

i am SO overdue for a Pedi... and i may actually get a mani for the first time in about 10 years .....one day.. maybe...

If the two of you are up for something new....at least to me....maybe consider trying the dip powder nails.

I also cut my nails really short...and they also grow super fast so it won't be long before I'll be doing this again....but I just got a new type of mani with the dipping powder and it was unusual. So far, it's got PERFECT coverage...no missed cracks or crevices and it's smooth as a baby's bottom. Nice and shiny too. The color I chose is like a greenish ocean color and it has a little sparkle to it, which I love. Supposedly, these will last as long as, if not longer, than typical gel fills. Also, it's much better for the environment and they apply vitamin enriched sealants to the nail so it's better for your nails too. Here are the benefits (https://nugenesisnails.com/pages/dip-powder-nails-benefits).

The 'air dry' is, literally, 5 minutes and it's bone dry.

It's only a smidge more than my usual mani too.

The ONLY thing I have to say that isn't all 'hip hop hooray' about it is that sometimes, when I push against the side of my nails, it feels a little like a gel that's loosening its bond. Not bad, per se, as all seems well. Just a little weird. I feel like the kid who is pushing on the back of her loose tooth from time to time but the mani is holding up very well so far and it's been several days since I had it done.

NuGenesis (https://nugenesisnails.com/collections/colors) Dip Powder Nails

[Gemme]

I cut mine down the other day too because they were actually starting to hurt, a lot of sensitivity under the nail and as soon as they were cut back they were comfortable again. I`m far more adventurous with colours when my nails are shorter.

You too, Daisy, if the dipping powder manis are offered where you are.

[Chained Daisy]

You too, Daisy, if the dipping powder manis are offered where you are.

I have never heard of this....I am so old fashioned ! I will check it out Gemme, thanks for sharing.

[Esme nha Maire]

I used to have lovely strong nails, which I'd shaped since my teens, before I went on HRT (I'm MTF), but within a couple of years of being on HRT my nails had become weak and prone to getting little nicks and tears in them, which can be painful

If anyone has any advice for how to best look after such nails, to strengthen them, I'm all ears! (NB: I'm not averse to painting stuff onto my nails, but I'm not interested in wearing false nails. )

[girl_dee]

I used to have lovely strong nails, which I'd shaped since my teens, before I went on HRT (I'm MTF), but within a couple of years of being on HRT my nails had become weak and prone to getting little nicks and tears in them, which can be painful

If anyone has any advice for how to best look after such nails, to strengthen them, I'm all ears! (NB: I'm not averse to painting stuff onto my nails, but I'm not interested in wearing false nails. )

hi!

i am sure some of the more experienced folks will chime in but..

i have weak nails too.. they *tear* . i bit them my entire life (gross i know) and recently just got (my first) manicure. i don't want false nails so i have french tips on my natural nails, because i like the clean look and i don't know what they put on them, but they feel hard as nails!
i am actually using them.



look at me talking like a girl............:blush:

[Esme nha Maire]

hi!
look at me talking like a girl............:blush:

(laughing) aww thank you dear! I'll still happily listen if you want to talk like some other kind of entity... :-} I like that we can all just be ourselves here :-}

[Gayandgray]

My fingernails are a mess!:seeingstars::seeingstars: I'm a cna in a nursing home so I can't have long nails, but 20 something years ago I did and I had silk wraps. I used to get pedicures all the time until I was nicked and I got an infection, so I've been doing my own toes ever since.
I'm curious, is it possible for me to get a manicure for men? I saw a movie where a guy had his nails real squared off and shiny and it looked very well kept and clean. That's what I want but what should I ask for at the salon?

[Esme nha Maire]

My fingernails are a mess!:seeingstars::seeingstars: I'm a cna in a nursing home so I can't have long nails, but 20 something years ago I did and I had silk wraps. I used to get pedicures all the time until I was nicked and I got an infection, so I've been doing my own toes ever since.
I'm curious, is it possible for me to get a manicure for men? I saw a movie where a guy had his nails real squared off and shiny and it looked very well kept and clean. That's what I want but what should I ask for at the salon?

I've only had manicures a couple of times (because pennies!) but so far as I'm aware, you tell the manicurist what you want done, and if it's within their ability, they do it. Just ask, Gayandgray, they'll be fine with it. There are women that just want their nails manicured like that too.

[justkim]

Check into a good hair, skin and nails vitamin. I have seen the good the bad and ugly side of weak nails. If you have your hands in water a lot try using a really good lanolin cream. It will help protect your hands along with your nails. Rub it in really well all over the nail and cuticle area. You will start noticing how soft your hands become. For those of you that have to wash your hands multiple times a day you will notice that your hands become softer and your nails will not soak up a lot of moisture, making them less brittle. The other thing to consider is that you don't want to try to shape your nails when they have been in water for too long. When you file your nails don't use a sawing motion, go from side to center. If you can think of anything else I can help with let me know.





I used to have lovely strong nails, which I'd shaped since my teens, before I went on HRT (I'm MTF), but within a couple of years of being on HRT my nails had become weak and prone to getting little nicks and tears in them, which can be painful

If anyone has any advice for how to best look after such nails, to strengthen them, I'm all ears! (NB: I'm not averse to painting stuff onto my nails, but I'm not interested in wearing false nails. )

hi!

i am sure some of the more experienced folks will chime in but..

i have weak nails too.. they *tear* . i bit them my entire life (gross i know) and recently just got (my first) manicure. i don't want false nails so i have french tips on my natural nails, because i like the clean look and i don't know what they put on them, but they feel hard as nails!
i am actually using them.



look at me talking like a girl............:blush:

I've only had manicures a couple of times (because pennies!) but so far as I'm aware, you tell the manicurist what you want done, and if it's within their ability, they do it. Just ask, Gayandgray, they'll be fine with it. There are women that just want their nails manicured like that too.

[GeorgiaMa'am]

My fingernails are a mess!:seeingstars::seeingstars: I'm a cna in a nursing home so I can't have long nails, but 20 something years ago I did and I had silk wraps. I used to get pedicures all the time until I was nicked and I got an infection, so I've been doing my own toes ever since.
I'm curious, is it possible for me to get a manicure for men? I saw a movie where a guy had his nails real squared off and shiny and it looked very well kept and clean. That's what I want but what should I ask for at the salon?

Just say you want a manicure only, short and square (that's the real word for that shape). Buffed instead of polish. They should be happy to do it for you. Have fun!

[Gemme]

Just say you want a manicure only, short and square (that's the real word for that shape). Buffed instead of polish. They should be happy to do it for you. Have fun!

And it will be less expensive than the other stuff!

[Bèsame*]

A few months ago I picked up a deal for a buck. A nail polish for the fall. I found it and just applied it to my nails. I thought the color at the time was fun. Tonight i think it's fabulous. Its darker than the pic. A dark taupe. Perfect for fall. A great neutral. I top it off with gel and then a quick dry. My fav quick dry, Essie, Good To Go. I've been using it for years. I tend to do my nails before I go to bed. I dont wake up with sheet marks, ever!!

Oh, and I don't know this brand. I looked it up and it starts at $20 a bottle. I got it for a buck!

https://www.eskinstore.com/productcart/pc/catalog/Gel_Lab_Pro_Nail_Lacquer_Dancing_On_My_68542_357_d etail.jpg