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Champix/tix can indeed affect some people adversely. I have heard of one or two but mainly I know of success stories. I knew there was a risk for me as a person with a history of depression but went ahead anyway. The main side effect for me was vivid dreams and that was a small price to pay for the benefits I got. 20months later and going strong! |
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With that said, a side effect of quitting smoking is depression and anxiety, in and of itself (for physiological reasons, not psychological). That is the whole purpose of using Wellbutrin/Zyban. It has nothing to do with decreasing cravings, it is just to manage the subsequent depression/anxiety/irritability that people experience when quitting smoking. Chantix helps with cravings, that is why it is so successful in the way that Zyban has not been. In response to Scoobs- my side effect was stomach stuff, also. I had nausea every morning after taking it. Really felt like I was going to vomit. It last about 20 minutes and was worth it to me. |
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Thanks, Dapper..... But right this moment I am ready to rip a PM's head off her neck!! *doing deep breathing exercises*.... |
Dear fellow smoking thread readers,
I have fallen off the proverbial smoking wagon. It started about a week and a half ago when I went to a club and I said I'd allow myself just two cigarettes. Man did I lie to myself! I ended up smoking 3/4 of that pack and I've been smoking up a storm ever since. But tonight I bought a new kind of cigarette that will hopefully help kick the habit. They are 100% additive free and they actually have more tobacco in them when compared to regular cigarettes. I'm thinking, fewer chemicals for me to be addicted to, easier to quit the tobacco. Wish me luck. |
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Are you talking about Natural American Spirits? I have been smoking those for about 5 years now... I went to them from Marlboros and it is true that you smoke less when you start smoking them, but sooner or later you will be back up to the same amount as before. It is the nicotene that's addictive but all the additives and chemicals that are carcinogenic..... Jest saying, from personal experience...... |
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I would suggest you getting back on the wagon NOW...the longer you are off, the harder it will be to get back on. It doesn't really make sense to let yourself get back to full time smoking BEFORE quitting. Does it? |
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I understand about depression and anxiety and what are you saying , I am a nurse clinician . I never done any research on Chantix . However, while I was working in ER, I had patients they came in they were frantic thinking they are having a heart attack at age 20-30 which is possible , but majority times it was a panic attack and just to find out they were on Chantix . Many people refused to take Zyban due to the weight gain . My son was taking Chantix and he was still smoking . I was horrified and he is still smoking so do I . I feel as a biggest hypocrite when I am educating my patients not to smoke and then I go on my smoke break . I never done any illegal drugs and no I am not pill popper or alcoholic . Yet , my smoking addiction it's a biggest challenge for me . In ER while coding patient and loose him all of us went outside to smoke cigarette since was so stressful and emotional . I was just curious if anybody done some research on Chantix , but now I will do it myself since I have an access to medical sites through my employer . thanks for reply Vlasta |
I saw my Psychiatrist today and he declined to give me Chantix and switch me from my current anti-depressant and put me on Wellbutrin to work along with the Chantix. His reasoning? He said it would cause way too much depression in me to switch (it took a long time to find a med for my depression that worked) and he said the Chantix would re-escalate my urges to cut myself again and I do NOT need that crap going on again. I'll just deal with smoking my own way.
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been a month without smoking... first week was awful... now i wont even pick up a cigarette.
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I quit smoking in 2002 just before I had a heart attack...the heart attack happened despite me quitting, I waited too long to stop; that and the diabetes, heart disease and extra 100 lbs was more than my ticker could take.
Despite that I still want a cigarette every.single. day. Hang in there everyone, it really does get easier.:rrose: |
Well my Mom was just diagnosed with non small cell lung cancer that has metastasized to the liver. She will be gone very soon. she smoked for 40 years and has COPD. And guess what I want to do? Smoke a cigarette to stuff all these feelings. I can't do this any more. I don't want my child to lose me so soon. I do not want to post this but I have to make myself accountable.
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I have made it 2 weeks to the day without a cig! It's been tough for sure! Congrats to all of you have also quit and keep moving forward to those of you who are attempting!
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Good evening quitters, those attempting to quit and those thinking about quitting:)
I did so well for almost 4 months...I started again....and stopped several times since and still go back... Well, here I am again. I decided today is it. I finished my last cigarette this evening, so tomorrow morning is the start of my new smoke free life! I will lend my support to anyone going through this, I believe it is the hardest thing, I know it helped me. This thread helped too....I should have kept using it! Happy Smoke free days! |
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I have nothing magically to say to you that will help you quit, but you had the best reason of all...do it for your child. (f) I wish you and your family peace and strength during this very sad time. |
Is there room for one more in here?
Quit date will be December 26, when I leave work. Since I don't smoke at work, that will give me a 12 hour jump on it. Already have a hike scheduled that day also, and no longer hike and smoke. Will be using nicotine lozenges this time!
Unable to take Welbutrin, or Chantix, nicotine patches remove layers of skin, and dislike chewing gum, so hoping this will work. Never smoke in the house, I've been stuck at 1pack/day for a while, and need to do something to help with the habitual/ritual smokes. With it being winter, that might help. I need to be smoke free before March! Ok, I need to be smoke free as soon as possible, so any help/encouragement is appreciated, and welcome! |
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Trying to keep it under 10 smokes a day is difficult!!!!!
Maybe should just start the process early, and make the QUIT my Christmas present to myself this year...it's only a few days away. Yuck, I hate being irritable |
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Hang in there! |
Got out the nicotine lozenges today, so far so good! I haven't had a cigarette today, and only want one when I let the dogs out. Going to try this for the weekend, if I end up smoking over the weekend, can still quit on Monday morning without kicking myself for failing.
Last smoke was at 11pm yesterday, almost 24 hours....:twitch: |
Ok this sucksss!!!!!
I have offically cut down to 5 or 6 smokes a day for the last 4 days so far..Might I say..IT SUCKS BIG ONES..lol
Deep breathing, water, chewing on ice, walks, keeping busy, etc...That is what my plan is..any other ideas?..I am so having an issue..lol I have smoked since I was 12..a pack to a pack and a half normally...Yikessss!..lol I want to be healthy...I want more years in my life than what is coming my way if I continue..besides the money factor of course. Thanks for any help. And yes..I am most definately doing the withdrawls..sweaty, irratable, anxiety, and feelin bitchy..but trying to keep tabs on it all. |
Root Beer Tasty Puff
I used an e-cigarette and found if you also get some Root Beer tasty puff it helps with the taste.. Just a few drops in the filter will make it taste better.
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If you can handle the salt, Sunflower seeds are good to eat and it keeps your hands busy like smoking.
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Thank you!..All of you.
This is easier when I can bitch and ask help from those who have been there before me..I can do this..I can do this..ha A heck of alot of deap breathes..lol |
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None since 1/8/12.
I downloaded a word search thingy on my android. It makes time pass whilst on breaks at work so I'm not tempted. I'm weird though. I've found that if I start craving, if I keep my mouth closed and inhale a slow deep breath through my teeth then exhale slowly, it mimics the activity of smoking and I'm okay again. |
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Actually that is an awesome idea I will be using..don't have android but I do have a word search book around here ..lol or 20 of em..lol Thanks |
'Grats to all who've taken the plunge or are almost there. Read back in the thread, there are loads of handy hints, tips and personal stories to help you keep on track.
Try not to replace cigs with food, you'll regret it big time. Try to break the visual cues too. I found one of the plastic inhalator thingies a good way for me to break not only the hand to mouth action but the visual cues as it didn't look remotely like a cig. I used toothpicks and straws too. Lady P, you've got it down thus far, have you considered using a NRT? Maybe patches? I took Chantix which really worked for me - along with the will power that has to be present too. A hundred patches stuck all over ya won't work unless you want them to. :cheesy: Regards Inc - nicotine free since 26.04.2010 |
Thank you for your support.
I am actually going to try a difrent patch but they don't come for a bit..like a week. I may not need them by then..lol I can't use alot of them nor the chantrix due to allergies and health conflicts. But I believe the one I sent for will be good. Crossin my fingers atleast..smiles I also had an idea like just now...I will try to put what I learn't when quitting drugs into play..Don't know if it is the same but sure feels like it. The word HALT puts you in check..HUNGRY, ANGRY, LONELY AND TIRED. WHEN FEELING UNSETTLED YOU NEED TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ARE OK AND IN CHECK. Hoping this will work too..smiles Thanks again. wish me luck..day 5 at slowing down drastically. |
Hi all,
I have never been a tobacco smoker but have loved many who smoked. My sister smoked for 35 year, quit about 8 times and finally broke the habit after the second time she tried it with these herbs. For those who don't know, tobacco is a stimulant and a depressant of the autonomic nervous system. It will increase you the fight/flight and relax with dopamine the pleasure part of your nervous system. So when you stop smoking, these neuronal receptors in the brain freak out (low dopamine) and you'll twitch like a tweaker yet you'll have less energy (less of a fight/flight response). Nicotine is actually a neurotoxin in high doses. It's used industrially as an insecticide. When one smokes for many years, these nervous systems get used to not working as well and get too used to external pressure. These herbs are to help one get over that initial 2 to 4 week period when one quits. Keep your smoking break habits up. Put the tincture is a bit of hot water and drink it like tea. Take the 5 minutes to stop, wool-gather, reflect, chit-chat or whatever you usually do while smoking. Just don't do it with another smoker until you get off the addiction and can be around smokers without wanting a cigarette. Basic herbs for cessation -mullien 15 drops, 3x a day -licorice 5 drops, 1x a day -Siberian ginseng, 12 drops, 1x a day take before or at the usual time you have your first cigarette. The ginseng is a stimulant and will give you a little kick. You might want to take it a few times thru out the day when first quitting. Liver detox (almost everyone should do this every year) -burdock 12 drops 1x day -milk thistle 12 drops 1x a day Muscle relaxer (for the shakes and jitters) -passion flower 12 drops 3x a day Sugar cravings (they put sugar on the tobacco leaf which leads some to have sugar cravings when they quit tobacco) -panax or American ginseng 10 cc vial a day (you can break up the timing to 2x or 3 x a day if that feels better) Emotional cravings -skullcap 3 to 5 drops a day (some find this a powerful herb. Listen to how your body responds to it) Emotional/adrenal (energy) fatigue -fresh oat head 5 to 10 drops 5x a day Nicotine cravings -lobelia 3 drops a day Herbs are bitter and taste nasty, if an herb tastes good to you you probably should take it regularly if not monthly. No one likes this cold infusion tea. Let me know if you like it Fresh comprey and marshmellow root -place a handful of herbs in a quart jar, cover with cold, fresh water and let sit over night. Strain and drink slowly through out the next day. |
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But with me..thats a whole lotta stuff to remember for me..I do good remembering to breathe..lol I need an assistant to administer all that if I did it..lol And it is also a bit costly. But I will definately pass it along to a couple people who are using that form for sure. Thank you. |
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Good luck to you. Believe you can do it, and you will! |
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So taking your advice, I will go to either the next step down or the last step down when they get here. Thank you seriously. |
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day 6 slowing down.
Ok so officially on my 6th day of cutting way down...Still doing like 6 smokes a day..except last night I stayed up and had 7 for the day..I just might be getting a little better handle on it for now. Atleast untill the next time I have to breathe deep or a stresser comes my way..Either way...I will stay on this no matter what, EVEN IF I FEEL IT WILL KILL ME...Ha!
I have found in RT, people don't see cutting down as a good thing. Really kinda sucks. But I see it as a great success. |
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