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deb0670 11-06-2012 11:13 AM

I didn't see this thread before posting in the CIJS one.. Ethan and i took my son's gf with us to vote today. It was her first time since she just turned 21. It was a pretty cool experience being able to be there with her. I am proud of her. We had no lines when we voted, and everything was very calm.

DMW 11-06-2012 11:29 AM

Looks like north carolina (i hope goes blue), virginia, colorado and florida
are going to be tight and possibly significant for the electoral count ( if we get steals from the the blue states from the villains who can only when if they cheat.) even more significant.
Damn. Hoping that there are not big steals from
OHIO, PA, IOWA, Nevada or New Mexico
Come on Latino vote and women.

Words 11-06-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraffitiBoi (Post 693381)
Thankfully I'm in MN too. I forgot to register after I moved and made a small change to my legal name. They are pretty good about registering there. Had to make sure I didn't have any Vote No propoganda on me or my car though. They are refusing to let anyone vote if they are wearing any political propoganda or if they are parked within 100 feet from the polls and have stuff on their car.

Is that legal?

I know things are different here in the UK, but surely, that can't be legal.

Words

Novelafemme 11-06-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Words (Post 693446)
Is that legal?

I know things are different here in the UK, but surely, that can't be legal.

Words

It is legal. The same goes here in Arizona.

Words 11-06-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novelafemme (Post 693447)
It is legal. The same goes here in Arizona.

Wow. I never knew. Thanks!

Words

chefhmboyrd 11-06-2012 11:55 AM

i voted early, little over a week ago.
i am just so ready to start forgetting about mittens and his whole pack of rabid right wing racist homophobes.
Obama will be victorious.

Rockinonahigh 11-06-2012 12:23 PM

I just got back from voteing,while I was in line wating to have them check my ID I was ask by the person in line behind me if I knew what I was voteing for cause I didnt look like in was in the right place.I didnt even give them anser just handed the official at the desk my licence then went on a voted.

Martina 11-06-2012 12:34 PM

One of my students said the school by his house had a pretty long line. This is in the South Bay region of Northern California. More people in CA vote by mail than in person. I imagine in my neighborhood it's way more than half. Also a lot of people in my neighborhood are here on VISA's or have green cards, but are not citizens. Anyway, I just breezed in and out. They seemed a little disorganized. It will be a long day for them.

One of my students is volunteering. I was so pleased that he wanted to. It was all his idea. He learned so much in the training.

I read that there will be a 70% turnout in CA. Mail-in voting for all and online voter registration works.

I like voting in person. During my college years and for some years after, I went home to Ohio every year to vote. My dad and I would go and be one of the first in line. Then we'd go out and get breakfast. I would hate to give up in person voting. But maybe someday I will.

By now, my dad and mom will have tottered off to their local library to do in person voting. And then they will go out for breakfast. :)

My dad is a Republican, but voted for Gore and Kerry. He said of W. -- "I can't vote for that drunken frat boy." Mom says he has not said who he is voting for this year. Silence usually means it's a Democrat. Dad is not happy about crossing over to what is for him the dark side. But he does it on occasion because he is a thinking Republican. They exist.

I think he likes that Obama got us out of Iraq. My dad is a veteran of Korea. He hates all wars. He goes to the VFW seven days a week for happy hour, and he's a proud Republican. But if you want to go to war, my dad will not vote for you or support you. I imagine there are a lot of vets like that.

Martina 11-06-2012 12:35 PM

What did he mean?

Was he harrassing you in some way?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh (Post 693458)
I just got back from voteing,while I was in line wating to have them check my ID I was ask by the person in line behind me if I knew what I was voteing for cause I didnt look like in was in the right place.I didnt even give them anser just handed the official at the desk my licence then went on a voted.


Corkey 11-06-2012 01:04 PM

We voted #'s 571 and 572 in our precinct.
Ami is now off to work and I'm in front of the boobtube watching MSNBC. I can talk and yell if necessary and she doesn't have to hear me LOL

Daywalker 11-06-2012 01:30 PM


I'm going to share something that sadly represents an
experience similar to what Rockinonahigh described.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Day's Facebook Status
I'm sharing a Community Members' Status, because it's important for folks to hear. She was treated unfairly, there's no two ways about it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(To be mailed out today)

Dear Ms. Elizabeth Warren and Senator Sonia Chang-Diaz:

Hello. My name is Stephanie Bonvissuto. I am a resident of a small neighborhood just outside of metropolitan Boston. Today is Tuesday, November 6th, Election Day. The time is 7:45 a.m. and I have just left my designated polling place. As a firm believer in the sanctity of the voting booth I will not reveal who I voted for. All I will say is, You’re Welcome.

One little detail I left out is that I am a woman in gender transition. In case you were wondering what this means, I regularly take hormones (just as many women who are not transitioning do), I live and express who I am as a woman every minute of every hour of every day of the year (and have done so for many years).
Importantly for the sake of this letter, I have also had my name legally changed to reflect this. I have gone through the courts, have had to have this change publicly announced in local newspapers, and have changed all that government and personal documents that I am allowed to by law. This includes, but is not limited to, my Social Security card, academic records, medical records, bank accounts, and my driver’s license.

I would like to reiterate this for sake of clarity: my driver’s license, which includes my photo and address and name, and which as a government issued document identifies me as female. (Of course, I do not need the government to validate who I am. Please do not take that personally.)

So imagine my surprise – along with my mortification, my humiliation, my fear and my hurt – when an election official at my designated polling place by the name of Oscar said that I needed to provide proof of identification. Just outside of Boston, in the state of Massachusetts, on Election Day morning, on a voting line five feet from the voting booth.

Speaking of that line - no one else on my queue was asked to provide identification. Other voters were dutifully logged in and given ballots as Oscar hung onto my license. He did not explain to me why I had been called out. He did not say what he intended to do with my license. After a few busy minutes he took it to another election official to discuss what he should do next – and in the course of that conversation proceeded to repeatedly misgender me, all the while holding onto my license which clearly stated my correct gender. He finally returned to the check-in table and, still not speaking to me, continued to check in other voters. Concerned neighbors and curious strangers moved around us. I had to finally ask Oscar for my license back. Only then was I given my ballots, allowing me to vote.

Ms. Warren and Senator Chang-Diaz, you should know that one of the reasons I moved from New York to The Bay State was because of what I saw were a passion for progressive politics and courageous stances taken in the name of civil rights issues in the present day. The passage of the Massachusetts Trans Equality Bill earlier this year, and the passage of the far-reaching Marriage Equality Bill in 2004 clearly indicate I made the right decision.

Whether you are victorious at the end of this day or not, I hope that you in your capacities as state leaders with a national voice continue this trend towards basic human rights for all – including having all election officials in Massachusetts trained to sensitivity so that no other voter will ever have to undergo what I did this morning just to be able to exercise her constitutional right as a proud citizen of this great state.

Thank you.

Stephanie Bonvissuto, Student Coordinator
Queer Student Center
University of Massachusetts Boston
QSC@umb.edu
617 287-7983

Although appalling, it's not gonna get better if folks keep silent.
I'm glad she will not remain invisible on this matter.

Some of you know Stephanie.
She's ok with us sharing her story.

:rose:

:daywalker:

Rockinonahigh 11-06-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 693462)
What did he mean?

Was he harrassing you in some way?

I was in line minding my own buisness,not discusing a thing with anyone while theire was a general discusion about some of the things to vote on.I definatly don't look like the average man or woman wich gets me comments and looks I just dont pay any atintion to anymore so they get the silent treatment from me.

It was a woman that said that to my surprise,I live in a neighbor hood that is sort of anti gay by 50/50.Obviously this person has no idea how many of our family do live in this place,also she is ultra right wing religious nut case that thinks if anyone isnt with her on her views they arent human.One of the older women who works the polls gave her a look that would have and did shut her up.Most times I get this crap from men so I just ignore them like I did this person and went about my own buisness,the less crediblity you give then the smaller they look.

Rockinonahigh 11-06-2012 01:59 PM

Ty Daywalker.
 
I am one of the fue people I know who go about this life not careing what others think about my outside aperence,many times I get the sir yes sir thing more times than I can count,in reality I could care less if i'm calle sir or m'am.I have a visable moustash,enough hair on my face even tho its fair and fine to have to shave ,my voice is deep,i'm always going to walk like John Wayne.This is who I am and will always be,if it makes someone uncomfortable it's not my issue unless they make it so.When I dont reply to crap from some people it's not that I don't care to,I just will not give them validation by takeing the bait of an argument.I dont stop what i'm doing,I don't go away,I don't stop being myself,I also will not disapeer.But,the first time one of them puts a hand on me or harms my family all bets are off.

Allison W 11-06-2012 02:28 PM

Just voted. I was #41.

Also, a little somethin' somethin' for you folks. Nate Silver, as of 10:10 a.m. ET today, projected Obama's chances of victory at 90.9%. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...r/nate-silver/

Martina 11-06-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison W (Post 693534)
Just voted. I was #41.

Also, a little somethin' somethin' for you folks. Nate Silver, as of 10:10 a.m. ET today, projected Obama's chances of victory at 90.9%. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...r/nate-silver/

I think that's down a little from yesterday. :(

Allison W 11-06-2012 02:51 PM

Yeah, and it's still 91%. Chill out.

Gentle Tiger 11-06-2012 03:07 PM

Ok, how many think tonight's outcome will be final vs. being declared after a recount?

MissItalianDiva 11-06-2012 03:18 PM

I don't know if there is a class they take for those fake plastic smiles and gross chuckles but Ed Gillespie who is on CNN right now speaking about Romney has the same gross smirk and laugh....ugh can't stand the Republican plastics

Martina 11-06-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison W (Post 693551)
Yeah, and it's still 91%. Chill out.

~~~~ Huh?

WolfyOne 11-06-2012 03:57 PM

I worked long and hard today, came home, dropped my rent check to the manager just so I could ask her where the exact location was I needed to vote at...with that said, I found it, voted and am happy it's a done deal for me.

Kobi 11-06-2012 04:14 PM


It is weird and a bit disturbing to see how different it is to vote in various parts of the country.

Here, there is no id requirement - they check your name off on the way in and on the way out. No need to prove who you are.

There are no restrictions r.e. bumper stickers or clothing or political buttons for people just there to vote.

Those who are out to stomp for candidates tho have to be several hundreds of feet from the entrance to the building.

Much more relaxed and welcoming to vote here.

ruffryder 11-06-2012 04:32 PM

Here you go folks - Election Map


Folks are voting in FL! Traffic backed up for miles to turn in ballots and people waiting in line for blocks to vote! Romney has the edge 49/48. Polls close in less than 2 hours here ! I'm glad I'm home today and not dealing with traffic getting anywhere and drunks tonight at work.

Currently Republicans have casted more votes in CO.

A small village in NH, population of 10, all voted together and results were 50/50.

Victims of Sandy are still getting out to vote and some using flashlights. Horrible but at least they are getting it done!

In PA, a voting machine was taken out of service for flipping votes of Obama to Romney.

Obama, "We have come to far to turn back now; finish what we started."
Romney, "Tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow."

Current toss ups include: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Election freebies in your area? Here they are giving away free pizzas, organic tea and a Indivisible bracelet from Starbucks.

aishah 11-06-2012 05:07 PM

thank you for the link ruff! it's super helpful. i haven't had a chance to look for results yet.

had a patient today who was two hours late for her appointment because she had to vote. i can't imagine what people are going through to vote right now. i was reading an article about a man in a nursing home who literally died and got cpr while voting and woke up and the first thing he asked before the ambulance took him away was if he finished voting (he did). i heard on the radio while on the bus about folks in staten island who are going through all kinds of crazy shit to be able to vote even with the horrific storms.

i am so so grateful that i was able to mail in my ballot a couple of weeks ago and so so grateful for every person who is going through so much to be able to vote today. i don't get all teary and patriotic much - i'm pretty conflicted about being teary and patriotic in general - but this definitely makes me feel a sense of connection and gratitude with other people in this country.

ruffryder 11-06-2012 05:25 PM

The first polls are getting ready to close people!

7:00 pm: Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, Florida

7:30 pm: North Carolina, Ohio, West Virginia

firegal 11-06-2012 05:44 PM

.....
 
Damn nervous.....

God help us if NIT WIT MITT wins.

Fingers crossed trying to have faith in our voters.

ruffryder 11-06-2012 06:11 PM

It seems the economy has been the top issue among those who voted today.

so far we are 58/40 Romney with 3 states reporting.


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