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RE: Opinions Requested--Could this Repeal Actually Happen?
Amending the Constitution is no easy feat, I remember ERA too well. :D Republicans and conservatives will have to tread lightly on that issue as opposed to their emotional outcry about the "illegal immigration problem." But I do think we need to keep an eye on them...as usual. :D Quote:
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Yes I believe that it is a shame that our president Obama has not supported our full support, BUT look at it this way....Clinton was the one that Started DOMA and Don't ask Don't Tell.
Sooo I feel that the flip by Obama is shame, BUT not IF but possibly When this goes to the US Supreme Court then it will HAVE to be supported by ALL parties, BOTH Republican and Democrat and Tea Party....YES I know they aren't there own party....BUT they are the conservative Fringe of the Republicans. |
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I love getting delighted. |
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From what I understand, it was a (sad) compromise for Clinton--it was either DOMA or a Constitutional Amendment redefining marriage as b/w a man and a woman that would probably would have passed. |
Our family at the end of THIS video, our kid Anita was absolutely eloquent. Me in the wheelchair? So sexy.
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And you looked great! And Cal was wonderful with hys little wave! (((family))) <3 I'm all emotional. :watereyes: |
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I must confess that I was watching them interview random people, and was getting super irritated. I wanted them to interview some of the families that were there, because the supporters of Prop 8 were adamant that we can't be parents and families. So I told the guy, you should talk to some kids with gay parents today. He said, how about yours? She gave a great answer when he asked her what she wanted to say to the Prop 8 supporters who don't believe her Moms can love her and raise her well. She said: "I feel very sad for them because they'll never know the kind of unconditional love that makes OUR family the only one I'd ever want to be in". I cried. again. |
HERE is a link to the PDF of the ruling.
all 135 pages of delicious gooodness. |
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it's a pretty good one (for our side) maggie's got nothin'.
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The haters sure do like changing the constitution, don't they? I have two bumper stickers on my car- one of which has been on there for about 20 years and the other is from the original Mass Equity campaign and states "No Discrimination In The Constitution". A hard concept for some to grasp... :readfineprint: |
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"This is a big stretch to imagine that our founding fathers were banning gay marriage in passing our constitution". Freudian slip baby, stick to arguing your own side.... :) Maggot Gallagher does bring up a good issue though: The fact that the EU does not recognize Same-Sex Marriage Discrimination as a human rights issue. :readfineprint: Gays in Austria appealed to the EU and the EU stated: http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/vi...C1166DEA398649 A few weeks ago a Russian Lesbian couple also filed an appeal to the EU, that response (as far as I know) is still pending... Lots of work left to do worldwide. :LGBTQFlag: |
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And it is really difficult for many US citizens to grasp the fact that civil & human rights cannot be voted upon. They do not grasp INALIENABLE as it stands in the US Constitution! in·al·ien·a·ble –adjective not alienable; not transferable to another or capable of being repudiated: inalienable rights. —Synonyms inviolable, absolute, unassailable, inherent. |
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Mexican court upholds capital's gay marriage law (AP) – 2 hours ago MEXICO CITY — The Mexican Supreme Court has voted to uphold the constitutionality of Mexico City's 6-month-old law allowing same-sex marriages. The justices have voted 8-2 to uphold the law against challenges filed by federal prosecutors, who argued it violates the constitutional principle of protection of the family. Hundreds of couples have been married so far under the law, the first of its kind to be enacted in Latin America. The court ruled Thursday that the law did not violate the constitution. Justices on the majority side argued that nowhere does the constitution define what a family is. :hangloose: |
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A little off-topic, but.....
I was posting on a discussion on a fb group page about "gay" marriage, and noticed a woman who was on the "it's always about sex with you gays" rant. I sent her a private message explaining that it wasn't about sex, and not only did she write back, but went back on the thread and apologized! :| She then friended me and we've been having a conversation since.
One down..... :cigar2: |
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We have stayed in contact since 2004 and both of them began to speak-out in their church for same-sex marriage and civil rights for us! They voted against Prop 8. Yes, both were obviously trying to reconcile why not already, but, frankly, if I had been a defensive jerk to them, I doubt that our relationship would have happened and the turn around for them in confronting bigotry in their church. I also gained from this interaction and just plain like these people. Honestly, I have found that demonstrating just how much I am not the stereotypes of lesbianism/being queer and being open to hets that can hear who I am, works wonders! |
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I hear you! She was flamed by several people, but I thought I'd be radical and just reach out! It doesn't always work, but it was at least worth a try! And as you saw, you never know what the ripple effect might be! :) |
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