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Lyte 02-10-2018 12:38 PM

Wow... went to the post ooffice this morning.. early! There were like 30 people in line before it opened! TG the majority were there for passports! Phew!!

So, everything's mailed out! Fingers crossed I didn't jack anything up! :p :blush:

Lyte 02-12-2018 11:46 AM

Turns out I spoke too soon on my previous post ... re: not jacking anything up. Everyone should have their packages (I believe) tomorrow as they were sent PRIORITY. This is with the exception of poor Breathless. I sent hers to an old address. Sigh! :( I believe I have it that screw up remedied ... to some degree.

Having said all that... I don't have any extra bits laying around so I think I reassembled everyone else's packages correctly. If (God forbid) you get your package and something's amiss .. please PM me ASAP!





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Originally Posted by Lyte (Post 1197755)
Wow... went to the post ooffice this morning.. early! There were like 30 people in line before it opened! TG the majority were there for passports! Phew!!

So, everything's mailed out! Fingers crossed I didn't jack anything up! :p :blush:


clay 02-12-2018 12:53 PM

I just got my sweet little packages...:)
 
My box of sweet little packages just came.

These are all so adorable, and really feeling the "love" here!

Thank you everyone. I won't divulge anything since I am first to get mine...:)

Great job everyone.

Lyte, I got 8 goodies, so my package was good to go! Thanks for wrangling!

clay 02-12-2018 01:23 PM

Fees for Projetcs
 


I just want to put this out there......I know we have agreed to send $5 for the projects for return packages, but I know from first hand experience, sometimes these cost a bit more than that $5.

This last project came at a cost of $7.45 for my box...not sure what the ones out of country will cost...but I wonder if maybe we shouldn't revisit that fee..maybe a couple more $.....just a thought....don't shoot me please...:)

nycfem 02-12-2018 01:31 PM

I personally like a flat five. Although if I’m sending something heavy or something extra I try to enclose a little more. I figure it all kind of evens out since usually most of us main players take turns wrangling.

Lyte 02-12-2018 02:56 PM

Please keep in mind that I've only wrangled once as you read the following. Meaning, I have a very limited frame of reference. :)

You make a good point regarding the cost of postage. The "cost" of wrangling is postage but also the cost of packaging, if new packaging is needed. And of course, the size of packaging also impacts postage. I was anticipating eight pieces measuring about 2" x 2" x 1/4 - 1/2" each. Three of the pieces were quite a bit larger than anticipated. One of those larger pieces turned out to be mine... so I'm not complaining! lol SMH :blink:

If we could agree to final products that are no larger than A x B x C ... then cost (and process) should be less (and easier) for everyone.

Also... or alternatively ... we could agree to a specific shipping container size ... and .... each participant could mail their crafts in a reusable container. If we could standardize a couple of things ... it should be a lot easier for everyone ... particularly the wrangler! The wrangler would then just need to resort the crafts in the boxes received, relabel, and ship everything back out in the same containers! Damn near turnkey! :koolaid:

Hope that makes sense... I may have been was in shipping/logistics too long! :p


PS / EDIT ... if ever I wrangle again ... I'm buying one of these below. In that past I just used a box cutter ... this thing makes it look so much easier!

https://c.76.my/Malaysia/prc-2-olfa-...8-PRODIY@6.jpg

Just watch...





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Originally Posted by clay (Post 1198027)
I just want to put this out there......I know we have agreed to send $5 for the projects for return packages, but I know from first hand experience, sometimes these cost a bit more than that $5.

This last project came at a cost of $7.45 for my box...not sure what the ones out of country will cost...but I wonder if maybe we shouldn't revisit that fee..maybe a couple more $.....just a thought....don't shoot me please...:)


candy_coated_bitch 02-12-2018 06:24 PM

Twinchies!!!!! This project surpassed any expectations I could have had. Everyone went all out. There are a few where I am unsure of the artist. But I will try to suss that out later.

As we're talking about potential issues, could everyone please remember to clearly mark your pieces so we can give credit to your amazing art!

nycfem 02-12-2018 07:12 PM

The twinchies were sooooooo great!!! OMG, they really were fantastic! Thanks, everyone, and Lyte for a great job wrangling!

nycfem 02-12-2018 07:23 PM

In case others are wondering, I'd say FSF's was the calligraphy type style wrapped in perhaps a monkey, unless I'm going nuts! I loved those twinchies!

Remember, folks, if you don't want to sign right on your art, you can always sign in an outer envelope or wrapping. we want to give you credit for your awesome work!

nycfem 02-12-2018 07:24 PM

You know what we have to do again sometime soon? Matchboxes! OMG, those are always a big hit!

*Just thinking out loud*

nanners 02-12-2018 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198072)
You know what we have to do again sometime soon? Matchboxes! OMG, those are always a big hit!

*Just thinking out loud*

YES! Let's do it next!
Theme?

I agree with Clay, we don't want the wrangler to have to come up with a lot of extra money, I had the exact same thought when I got my package to day and saw that Lyte had to spend $2.45 more than I gave.

Seem most people are getting them today, so I want to make a few comments on them!

Besame, I love the color you used, and 4 twinchies, you really worked hard on this one, so cute too!

CCB, I love the key and the heart on mine...done in your truly unique fashion like your jewelry...great job!

Gemme, I like all the different textures!

Breathless, so pretty... I love pink!

nycfem, adorbs! You know I'm a kitty lover! And the "family" charm,
so awesome!

FSF, Beautiful work and so sweetly wrapped!

Clay, Nice job...and I like what you wrote on the back...and the extra embossed butterflies...very cool...what kind of machine is it that you have to make those?

clay 02-12-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198076)
YES! Let's do it next!
Theme?

snipped convo
Clay, Nice job...and I like what you wrote on the back...and the extra embossed butterflies...very cool...what kind of machine is it that you have to make those?

hey nanners...thanks....I used the Sizzix Embosser machine..it is wicked cool. You can buy a LOT of different plates to do them BUT I only have that one ATM...

Thanks for your twinchie...I liked the colors of that heart! Great job!!

nanners 02-12-2018 09:46 PM

Oops.

I forgot one....LYTE! Your twinchie project was simply amazing! I loved the box, and every little thing that went into the twinchie...so sweet.

And I think you did an amazing job as a wrangler.

candy_coated_bitch 02-12-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198072)
You know what we have to do again sometime soon? Matchboxes! OMG, those are always a big hit!

*Just thinking out loud*

You read my mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198091)
Oops.

I forgot one....LYTE! Your twinchie project was simply amazing! I loved the box, and every little thing that went into the twinchie...so sweet.

And I think you did an amazing job as a wrangler.

Yes, Lyte, thank you for being such a great Wrangler!

clay 02-12-2018 09:54 PM

I am up for a matchbox project.....bring it on!


Breathless 02-12-2018 10:11 PM

I too am up for the match box project :) Excited even !

candy_coated_bitch 02-12-2018 10:26 PM

Little matchboxes, big matchboxes, matchbox shrines, filled matchboxes....gears are turning.

FireSignFemme 02-13-2018 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198071)
In case others are wondering, I'd say FSF's was the calligraphy type style wrapped in perhaps a monkey, unless I'm going nuts! I loved those twinchies!

Remember, folks, if you don't want to sign right on your art, you can always sign in an outer envelope or wrapping. we want to give you credit for your awesome work!

Yes mine were wrapped in white paper bags with monkey stickers on them and inside the twinchies were wrapped in a paper heart shaped doily to help somewhat protect the pieces. :)

Gemme 02-13-2018 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clay (Post 1198027)


I just want to put this out there......I know we have agreed to send $5 for the projects for return packages, but I know from first hand experience, sometimes these cost a bit more than that $5.

This last project came at a cost of $7.45 for my box...not sure what the ones out of country will cost...but I wonder if maybe we shouldn't revisit that fee..maybe a couple more $.....just a thought....don't shoot me please...:)

This is a good idea. The post office raised shipping rates on January 20th. The small 'if it fits, it ships' boxes used to be $5 and change. The one I sent out to Lyte was $7.20. That's for a small box.

Times are a'changin', folks. We need to keep current mailing costs in mind and choose a cost that's in line with what we are sending. Also, if we send something outside the size parameters, then we need to include enough additional money to account for having to send more expensive packages to all of the participants. Wranglers should not have to dip into personal funds to send stuff out to us. I've had to do it multiple times when enough money wasn't sent or when people never sent any money at all. It's frustrating and why I haven't pushed to wrangle a round lately.


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Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198072)
You know what we have to do again sometime soon? Matchboxes! OMG, those are always a big hit!

*Just thinking out loud*

Matchboxes were fun.

I received my package yesterday and was sooo happy. Everyone did exceptional work. I was very excited to dig into my package and see all the goodies sent.

nycfem 02-13-2018 07:30 AM

Should we up it to 7 as a new policy to accommodate rising costs?

nanners 02-13-2018 07:37 AM

I was actually thinking $8 so we could use the small flat rate boxes that are priority mail and can be tracked as well.
Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198121)
Should we up it to 7 as a new policy to accommodate rising costs?


nycfem 02-13-2018 07:40 AM

I usually use priority envelopes, which I guess is the same difference.

clay 02-13-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198121)
Should we up it to 7 as a new policy to accommodate rising costs?

I totally agree, and am on board with the $8.

I agree with Gemme, sometimes it does get more costly if a project (s) is outside parameters. I will be sending Lyte a couple extra dollars, too!

Matchboxes...in all shapes, sizes, & colors...whoohoo....

Lyte 02-13-2018 03:18 PM

Thanks y'all for your kind words re: my twinchie. I am glad y'all liked them. :blush: I did not set out to make anything so elaborate! I crafted my arse into a corner when I added the "flowers." How do I ship it in such a way that the flowers don't get crushed? Great... now my crafty bit needs a crafty carrier! lol SMH Which... I hear didn't fully do it's job and at least one of you has received a tripod moose. :(

So... apparently... there was another screw up by yours truly ... everyone should have one cute lil wrapped package with a monkey on it! I've just learned that a group member received two of them. Please let me know if your package is minus one and I will remedy the issue. Sorry and thanks!

clay 02-13-2018 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyte (Post 1198158)
Thanks y'all for your kind words re: my twinchie. I am glad y'all liked them. :blush: I did not set out to make anything so elaborate! I crafted my arse into a corner when I added the "flowers." How do I ship it in such a way that the flowers don't get crushed? Great... now my crafty bit needs a crafty carrier! lol SMH Which... I hear didn't fully do it's job and at least one of you has received a tripod moose. :(

So... apparently... there was another screw up by yours truly ... everyone should have one cute lil wrapped package with a monkey on it! I've just learned that a group member received two of them. Please let me know if your package is minus one and I will remedy the issue. Sorry and thanks!

hey Lyte....I wouldn't beat myself up so badly! Really, at one time or another, we have all had "our moments" as well...we just rectify the situation, and move on along. It will happen...again..again...again...human frailty!

Personally speaking, I LIKE my package and EVERY.SINGLE.PIECE inside them. There is "character" in each one.
NEXT....lol...:)


Lyte 02-13-2018 03:36 PM

This may be the single best stone that knocks out the most number of birds! :)

If all agree to a fixed box size this is control the size if the crafts and the cost of shipping. It will also eliminate the need for the wrangler to figure out how to reship the finished crafts. if everyone uses the same (similar) small flat rate boxes then the resorted crafts could reship in the same box for the same cost. I particularly dig using the USPS small flat rate boxes because the boxes are free!


P.S. ... Matchboxes??

P.S.S ... The magnet on my twinchie will only hold itself up. lol :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198122)
I was actually thinking $8 so we could use the small flat rate boxes that are priority mail and can be tracked as well.


nycfem 02-13-2018 04:25 PM

Well, I am an envelope kinda girl unless I deem the project needs a box so hopefully we can have some flexibility. Priority envelopes are free too.

Glad everyone is on board with matchboxes. They tend to produce some of our best work imho!

Who wants to wrangle is the other question? Just promise us you won't leave town with everyone's 8 dollars :D

clay 02-13-2018 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198166)

Who wants to wrangle is the other question? Just promise us you won't leave town with everyone's 8 dollars :D

:hangloose: I promise not to! Besides, I am "commited" to present space for the next 11 months!

candy_coated_bitch 02-13-2018 08:35 PM

I think we should do the small sized filled matchboxes, where you fill the inside of the box full to the brim with tiny treats. Any ideas for themes?

I always have the same worry with matchboxes though with too many people joining and making it a project that's difficult to produce. But I know I'm the only one who likes caps on numbers.

nanners 02-13-2018 09:18 PM

I have an idea for the theme...
What if we tailored each matchbox for each person that participates?

Like we could each post a blurb about listed about 10 things we like, or are into, or collect, you would have ideas of what to put inside the matchbox.

Mine mght say:
nanners: the color purple, cats, traveling, cooking, baking, rainbows, tulips...you get the idea...

Then you could choose one or more of those to expound on for my matchbox.

Thoughts?

Oh, and I agree we should all try to do the same size, the small ones like matches come in.


candy_coated_bitch 02-13-2018 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198220)
I have an idea for the theme...
What if we tailored each matchbox for each person that participates?

Like we could each post a blurb about listed about 10 things we like, or are into, or collect, you would have ideas of what to put inside the matchbox.

Mine mght say:
nanners: the color purple, cats, traveling, cooking, baking, rainbows, tulips...you get the idea...

Then you could choose one or more of those to expound on for my matchbox.

Thoughts?

Oh, and I agree we should all try to do the same size, the small ones like matches come in.


I like it!

candy_coated_bitch 02-13-2018 10:04 PM

I'm going to be a Debbie Downer for a second. This is where my concerns for dong individualized matchboxes for say 10 people, which is about average here. Finding and buying all those disparate different things to fill the matchboxes with could be difficult and costly.

clay 02-13-2018 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch (Post 1198224)
I'm going to be a Debbie Downer for a second. This is where my concerns for dong individualized matchboxes for say 10 people, which is about average here. Finding and buying all those disparate different things to fill the matchboxes with could be difficult and costly.

That was exactly what I was going to post.

While a great idea on paper, to personalize, I know I can NOT afford to buy different things for even 5 people, or more, as we always have a big signup for this project!

So I am in agreement here with you, CCB! Good point....

Maybe do a St Patty's Day theme? Just some food for thought.

nanners 02-13-2018 10:25 PM

you were both right, it does sound good on paper but to buy all those things would be costly. What if we turn it around to be the things that you personally like? So in each match box it will contain only things that interest you or that you like. Then everybody will get a taste of your personality, or the things that you like.

candy_coated_bitch 02-13-2018 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198226)
you were both right, it does sound good on paper but to buy all those things would be costly. What if we turn it around to be the things that you personally like? So in each match box it will contain only things that interest you or that you like. Then everybody will get a taste of your personality, or the things that you like.

That would be fun. You could put all the same stuff in the boxes and I'd love to see what everyone picks out to represent themselves.

Gemme 02-14-2018 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem (Post 1198121)
Should we up it to 7 as a new policy to accommodate rising costs?

That sounds reasonable to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyte (Post 1198160)
This may be the single best stone that knocks out the most number of birds! :)

If all agree to a fixed box size this is control the size if the crafts and the cost of shipping. It will also eliminate the need for the wrangler to figure out how to reship the finished crafts. if everyone uses the same (similar) small flat rate boxes then the resorted crafts could reship in the same box for the same cost. I particularly dig using the USPS small flat rate boxes because the boxes are free!


P.S. ... Matchboxes??

P.S.S ... The magnet on my twinchie will only hold itself up. lol :p

Matchboxes.

You can find examples on Pinterest or YouTube.

As for requiring specific packaging, I'm not a fan. I'm not going to require a flat box when we do crafts that will easily ship in padded envelopes. That's additional expense for nothing. My vote is that we package our goodies according to their size and bulk and to take that into consideration when sending money to wranglers. Some already do that and send extra when their goodies are bigger and/or heavier than most.


Quote:

Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch (Post 1198200)
I think we should do the small sized filled matchboxes, where you fill the inside of the box full to the brim with tiny treats. Any ideas for themes?

I always have the same worry with matchboxes though with too many people joining and making it a project that's difficult to produce. But I know I'm the only one who likes caps on numbers.

Nope; you're not the only one. Matchboxes are far more time and cost intensive than the average project so the list should have a cap to manage those. The only way I'd vote for not having a cap with this project is if we wound up getting twice the time to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanners (Post 1198220)
I have an idea for the theme...
What if we tailored each matchbox for each person that participates?

Like we could each post a blurb about listed about 10 things we like, or are into, or collect, you would have ideas of what to put inside the matchbox.

Mine mght say:
nanners: the color purple, cats, traveling, cooking, baking, rainbows, tulips...you get the idea...

Then you could choose one or more of those to expound on for my matchbox.

Thoughts?

Oh, and I agree we should all try to do the same size, the small ones like matches come in.


This is such a cute idea!

Quote:

Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch (Post 1198224)
I'm going to be a Debbie Downer for a second. This is where my concerns for dong individualized matchboxes for say 10 people, which is about average here. Finding and buying all those disparate different things to fill the matchboxes with could be difficult and costly.

You have a point but don't forget that not all matchboxes need to be filled with 'things'. Some simply have images or drawings inside, like your own personal mural. That would easily be doable and would absolutely be able to accommodate ideas like nan's and also be very cost effective.

I'm down for matchboxes. I'm down for a cap on the project but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if we get more time to work on the project. I'm not down for a holiday theme but personal themes sound good to me. If no one is up for it, I'd be down for wrangling. Now, this IS that type of project that really needs those shipping boxes, so I'd recommend $8 per participant for shipping.

clay 02-14-2018 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 1198279)
That sounds reasonable to me.



Matchboxes.

You can find examples on Pinterest or YouTube.

As for requiring specific packaging, I'm not a fan. I'm not going to require a flat box when we do crafts that will easily ship in padded envelopes. That's additional expense for nothing. My vote is that we package our goodies according to their size and bulk and to take that into consideration when sending money to wranglers. Some already do that and send extra when their goodies are bigger and/or heavier than most.




Nope; you're not the only one. Matchboxes are far more time and cost intensive than the average project so the list should have a cap to manage those. The only way I'd vote for not having a cap with this project is if we wound up getting twice the time to do it.



This is such a cute idea!



You have a point but don't forget that not all matchboxes need to be filled with 'things'. Some simply have images or drawings inside, like your own personal mural. That would easily be doable and would absolutely be able to accommodate ideas like nan's and also be very cost effective.

I'm down for matchboxes. I'm down for a cap on the project but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if we get more time to work on the project. I'm not down for a holiday theme but personal themes sound good to me. If no one is up for it, I'd be down for wrangling. Now, this IS that type of project that really needs those shipping boxes, so I'd recommend $8 per participant for shipping
.

Yes to Gemme wrangling!

Yes to our own individual "art" for these......am sort of "over" "holiday themed" projects for a bit...:)

Yes, to $7 fee to send items

NO to "flat rate boxes, as these do get expensive to ship, and most always our projects have fit the manila envelopes...much cheaper to ship back out.

Yes, to adding few extra $ if ours is bigger, heavier, bulkier.

My adding "Do not bend, spindle, fold, or mutilate"...PRICELESS and is a "clay thang"...lol

Lyte 02-14-2018 01:49 PM

A box or envelope is fine by me. I ditto'ed the use of the small flat rate box from USPS for a few reasons... the postage is just 'bout $7 ... and... the box is free... and... a box stands up better to being handled by our beloved USPS... and... a box can't be folded and/or shoved into a mail box.

Sending extra dough is great... but... I have a sense that the extra sent may not always extend sufficiently to cover the extra postage and the extra packaging for all of the participants. Larger, heavier or oddly shaped pieces means postage and packaging on all the packages is increased.

If we don't want to create any max/min standards at this time, that's cool! The points I mention above are clearly on my mind right now! If for no other reason, I'm glad I was wrangler on this twinchie project so no one else had to deal with my getting carried away! lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 1198279)
As for requiring specific packaging, I'm not a fan. I'm not going to require a flat box when we do crafts that will easily ship in padded envelopes. That's additional expense for nothing. My vote is that we package our goodies according to their size and bulk and to take that into consideration when sending money to wranglers. Some already do that and send extra when their goodies are bigger and/or heavier than most.



Quote:

Originally Posted by clay (Post 1198282)
NO to "flat rate boxes, as these do get expensive to ship, and most always our projects have fit the manila envelopes...much cheaper to ship back out. Yes, to adding few extra $ if ours is bigger, heavier, bulkier. My adding "Do not bend, spindle, fold, or mutilate"...PRICELESS and is a "clay thang"...lol


clay 02-14-2018 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyte (Post 1198298)
A box or envelope is fine by me. I ditto'ed the use of the small flat rate box from USPS for a few reasons... the postage is just 'bout $7 ... and... the box is free... and... a box stands up better to being handled by our beloved USPS... and... a box can't be folded and/or shoved into a mail box.

Sending extra dough is great... but... I have a sense that the extra sent may not always extend sufficiently to cover the extra postage and the extra packaging for all of the participants. Larger, heavier or oddly shaped pieces means postage and packaging on all the packages is increased.

If we don't want to create any max/min standards at this time, that's cool! The points I mention above are clearly on my mind right now! If for no other reason, I'm glad I was wrangler on this twinchie project so no one else had to deal with my getting carried away! lol




Another huge point to using the flat envelopes is that some folks do work, so aren't home during day, and we have a set rule to "NOT send anything requiring a signature" for any parcels sent.

That said, also not everyone will have a mailbox to accommodate "boxes" and sometimes can't have things left outside their doors....so those are considerations for sure!

I have a very small "box" in a bank of mailboxes on the wall in a secure building. Luckily our mail arrives while manager is on duty, and will call us to come down & get a package that will not fit in the small boxes.

Just my "priceless" two cents worth...:)

Lyte 02-14-2018 02:48 PM

Excellent points and def priceless! ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by clay (Post 1198300)
Another huge point to using the flat envelopes is that some folks do work, so aren't home during day, and we have a set rule to "NOT send anything requiring a signature" for any parcels sent.

That said, also not everyone will have a mailbox to accommodate "boxes" and sometimes can't have things left outside their doors....so those are considerations for sure!

I have a very small "box" in a bank of mailboxes on the wall in a secure building. Luckily our mail arrives while manager is on duty, and will call us to come down & get a package that will not fit in the small boxes.

Just my "priceless" two cents worth...:)



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