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The Oopster 03-13-2012 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by June (Post 545839)
Okay -- We just did a test.

In addition to being a Moderator, I am also a paid Sentinel member. I never use the invisible thing, but we created a new test member and I went invisible.

I visited that profile three times, and Medusa (as the test member) could see three visits, but not by who.

So, if you are a Sentinel member and another Sentinel member visits your profile, you can see they were there.

If you are a non-paid member, or at the BFP Supporter I or II (And we appreciate you all equally!) if a Sentinel member visits your profile, you will not be able to see it.

Moderators or Admins, regardless if they have a paid membership can see who has been in your profile, even if you can't.
out of curiosity can the mods and admins see how often someone visits the profile or just that they have visited it?

suebee 03-13-2012 08:23 PM
Canadian currency at par I presume?

Point~Of~No~Return 03-13-2012 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by June (Post 546508)
I think these are really good examples, Pashi. Just looking at someones profile or posts is not "stalking" them. If you have a bad relationship with them, or they are your estranged ex, then while I don't necessarily think it's stalking (but could be) it is at the very least, creepy. Why do you care what someone you don't like has to say unless you are actively trying to find fault, mock them or make them feel uncomfortable?

If we choose to post something here, it can be read. Do I think it's okay to post it elsewhere without asking permission? No. That's creepy too. We can either decide to put ourselves out there with a good heart and the hope that folks reading it will have good hearts and no malicious agenda, or hide our sunny little hearts under a rock ;)
^5

we can all hope that there is no malicious intentions of another

it's just nice to know that the forum takes their terms of service seriously it gives a very comforting feeling

but the main question was for the being invisible

The Oopster 03-13-2012 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by June (Post 546532)
That's classified.

Please insert another quarter.
i'm not that curious!

Point~Of~No~Return 03-15-2012 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Oopster (Post 546550)
i'm not that curious!

LMAO!

Ok i'll give you 50cents

Ginger 03-15-2012 11:01 AM
Wow, I had no idea that different membership levels have different privacy levels, that the "higher" up you are, the less able others are, to see where you visit on the site, if I'm understanding correctly.

Heightened invisibility, then, becomes a kind of reward? That's intriguing. In the city where I live, class differences determine levels of privacy. Having private outdoor space is a luxury beyond what most people can dream of. Even having yoru own room, in many families, is both an experience of privacy and a determinate of class status.

Privacy, exposure—really interesting things to think about.

Apocalipstic 03-15-2012 12:17 PM
I did not realize it bothered anyone if members were invisible, now that I know...I will remain visible.

dixie 03-15-2012 12:19 PM
Hmm...I'm a sentinel. I keep myself set on invisible simply because I'm a nerd like that.

I never really thought about it as being "private" though, because I am fully aware that at least SOMEONE (actually multiple folks) can see anything I do at any time.

Whether it be admin, mods or other sentinel members, I am truly *not* invisible.

The minute I post, it's viewable to everyone.

I am exposed the minute I log on to this site, and any other site I visit.

The only way anything will ever be truly private, is if it's kept in your head.


dixie 03-15-2012 12:26 PM
All of this is entirely MY OPINION, so keep that in mind...
 
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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 547467)
I did not realize it bothered anyone if members were invisible, now that I know...I will remain visible.
Now see, I'm a little different.

For me, I have that odd, cynical conspiracy theory mind. So when someone says to me that it bothers them that I'm invisible, it makes me wonder why they feel the need to monitor the activities of others.

"I don't like that I can't see you unless you post" for example.


I can understand if folks have legitimate concerns such as stalkers or whatnot, but in general? I see no harm or no issue with folks being invisible. Yeah, I donated and have that option. That was choice. For a long time, I didn't have that option. Did it bother me that others did? Not a bit.

Ginger 03-15-2012 02:11 PM
I don't see anything wrong with invisiblity being a perk for paid members. I think people should get rewarded for membership!

I didn't even know paid membership was an option here (I just joined). I must have missed it. Someone said they don't push it and there you go; I didn't even notice it, it's so un-pushed.

It did feel kind of funny when I realized every time I visited someone's profile, I left a calling card in the form of my screen name on their "who last visited" list. I felt sort of exposed.

But on the other hand, I like seeing who has visited my profile—I guess I can't have it both ways (unless I join).

Nice to have a choice...

I have no idea where I'm going with this, just commenting, taking it in.

Apocalipstic 03-15-2012 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dixie (Post 547470)
Now see, I'm a little different.

For me, I have that odd, cynical conspiracy theory mind. So when someone says to me that it bothers them that I'm invisible, it makes me wonder why they feel the need to monitor the activities of others.

"I don't like that I can't see you unless you post" for example.


I can understand if folks have legitimate concerns such as stalkers or whatnot, but in general? I see no harm or no issue with folks being invisible. Yeah, I donated and have that option. That was choice. For a long time, I didn't have that option. Did it bother me that others did? Not a bit.
I could care less who sees me actually, I just thought it was so freakin cool when I won the lifetime membership and had more options!!! I love options.

I am not and have never tried to sneak around on here lol, but have heard the invisible thing mentioned by several people several times...so some people give wayyyyyyy more thought than I ever have. ;)

Ginger 03-15-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 547509)
I could care less who sees me actually, I just thought it was so freakin cool when I won the lifetime membership and had more options!!! I love options.

I am not and have never tried to sneak around on here lol, but have heard the invisible thing mentioned by several people several times...so some people give wayyyyyyy more thought than I ever have. ;)

So now everyone is making me wonder if I would participate differently on the site, if I were invisible. Is that what we used to call "lurking"? But "lurking" has negative connotations, and I think the invisibility we're talking about here, since condoned, and consensual in that everyone knows the deal, doesn't have any ethical problems associated with "lurking."

LaneyDoll 03-15-2012 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by IslandScout (Post 547519)
So now everyone is making me wonder if I would participate differently on the site, if I were invisible. Is that what we used to call "lurking"? But "lurking" has negative connotations, and I think the invisibility we're talking about here, since condoned, and consensual in that everyone knows the deal, doesn't have any ethical problems associated with "lurking."
I know that I would be likely to. A lot of times, I will see that someone looked at my profile so I look at theirs. Or they have something interesting to say so I want to check them out further. But, knowing that they can see me look, makes me less willing to do so. I don't want there to be any assumptions about my intent since it is more curiousity than anything else.

:sparklyheart:

Corkey 03-15-2012 03:28 PM
I don't care as to who visits my profile, the only one I do care about is my wife. Folks are gonna look folks up to post on their profile page so it automatically shows up, unless one is invisible. It's just an operating feature of the site.

dixie 03-15-2012 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IslandScout (Post 547519)
So now everyone is making me wonder if I would participate differently on the site, if I were invisible. Is that what we used to call "lurking"? But "lurking" has negative connotations, and I think the invisibility we're talking about here, since condoned, and consensual in that everyone knows the deal, doesn't have any ethical problems associated with "lurking."
Invisibility had no effect on my participation. I lurk whether I'm invisible or not (not in a bad way, I just like the term) lol

Toughy 03-15-2012 04:02 PM
Can a Sentinel (or above) member see who is invisible? If Apocalipstic is invisible, is she invisible to everyone or just invisible to those who don't have that capability?

I always took lurking to mean following a thread without posting in it.

And then there is 'threading stalking' a person. I thread stalk June because I like to read what she writes.....I have a long standing crush on the poodle and can't help myself....meaning I click on her name and click on the see more posts and then read everything she writes in every thread.

Going to the way back machine and seeing what Toughy posted 10 years ago is an eye opening experience...........laughin.....


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