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EnderD_503 11-29-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 237293)
Dune.

/thread

But yeah, in the whole Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate, Star Trek wins for me. Especially TNG, used to watch it all the time as a kid.

Arwen 11-29-2010 11:30 PM

If you really want to dig deep, an argument could be made that comparing Star Wars and Star Trek is truly comparing apples to grapes. They aren't even the same size.

Star Wars uses the Joseph Campbell myth cycle ala the Hero's journey over the first three movies. And, if you really examine that, the Hero's Journey for the full six movies could be said to be Darth Vader's journey. What do you think?

And Star Trek is much shorter bites. I'm not sure there is a Hero's Journey in those. Maybe with Voyager and Next Generation, but not in the original.

Just my .02 geeky worth.



Nat 11-29-2010 11:43 PM

I heart star trek

betenoire 11-30-2010 12:07 AM


atomiczombie 11-30-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dreadgeek (Post 237641)
I'd even be willing to give Lucas a mulligan on Episodes 1 - 3 given that episodes 4 -6 were SO good. But if he took the mulligan he'd have to do so on the condition of NO Jar-Jar Binks. None. Not even any member of his species! Oh and ditch the metachlorides.


Cheers
Aj

OMG yes I hated Jar Jar. Such a racist caricature. The metachlorides were lame too. And count Dooku? Are you kidding me?? Oy.

Rook 11-30-2010 08:31 AM

Wait..
Allow me to clarify..
I'm not asking which is better, I'm asking which is Your favorite...

Believe me, years of listening about the Glories of each has me jaded..lol

BullDog 11-30-2010 12:06 PM

Star Trek- the original. I grew up on it. I wasn't a hard core fan, but it's definitely part of my childhood. Hell, I learned to drink coffee as a kid watching that show.

Star Wars- I saw the first one. I don't dislike it, but never saw the big deal over it. I may have been too distracted by Carrie Fisher's hair to notice.

Kobi 11-30-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arwen (Post 238081)
If you really want to dig deep, an argument could be made that comparing Star Wars and Star Trek is truly comparing apples to grapes. They aren't even the same size.

Star Wars uses the Joseph Campbell myth cycle ala the Hero's journey over the first three movies. And, if you really examine that, the Hero's Journey for the full six movies could be said to be Darth Vader's journey. What do you think?

And Star Trek is much shorter bites. I'm not sure there is a Hero's Journey in those. Maybe with Voyager and Next Generation, but not in the original.

Just my .02 geeky worth.

OMG someone else who knows about Joseph Campbell and myths!

I agree and have seen George Lucas speak to the mythology used in Star Wars which was quite fascinating.

I still prefer the original Star Trek tho....especially the tribles(?) episodes.

NJFemmie 11-30-2010 05:10 PM

Star Trek, baby!

Spock rules, jabberwockies drool....

... or something like that.... *shrug*

Scota_Parisi 11-30-2010 10:43 PM

Delving into my uber sci-fi side here. Grew up with Star Trek because it was on TV in the afternoons. Homework was done, we could watch it.

I remember being at a party watching Star Trek II - "The Wrath of Khan". I cried and cried when Spock died. "I have been... and always shall be... your friend. Live long... and prosper." And then they did this amazing thing and he returned to life in Star Trek III.

Which is why I was furious at this new Star Trek. They took out Vulcan. Vulcan??? Really???? And didn't bring it back. They can travel back in time for humpback whales but nooOOOOOOOoooo. Save Vulcan? I left the theater disgusted. LOL.... so yep I'm a Trekker.

Oh, maybe next movie. I hope. *sigh*

On the flipside, I do like Star Wars. Used to game in Star Wars Galaxies and it was a real great way to learn more about the characters and the movies.

kannon 11-30-2010 10:56 PM

I know Blade Runner isn't an option but it's the BEST sci-fi movie, ever.

kannon 11-30-2010 11:04 PM

If I had to pick between the two, I'd pick Star Wars.

I'm full of useless info.

George Lucas based the original characters on Carl Jung's archetypes.

NJFemmie 12-01-2010 05:20 AM

My Mother used to watch Star Trek (she apparently had a crush on Kirk *winky winky smooch smooch*) late at night when she'd come home from work - and I used to watch it with her. Thanks to her, I became a huge fan. She passed away when I was 14 -- so she wasn't alive to see the Star Trek movies (which I know she would have LOVED). Anyway, I cried when Spock died, but I think I cried for my mother when Kirk died. It was the end of an era. :(

I've seen every movie - even the latest one. I plan on getting every movie on DVD. :)

Re: Star Wars - I tried to get into it but couldn't. It isn't the same. I've seen the movies, but ehhh ...

Rook 12-01-2010 08:25 AM

I agree,
Blade Runner Rawks...I wanna buy the Directors Cut...

The "new" Star Trek, yeah...it did piss me off too...
I mean, c'mon, our "First Contact" was with Vulcan damnit ...
They were scouting, saw a signal, otherwise they'd keep flyin off in their study, waving off our sorry lil asses as too primitive to bother with...
:seeingstars:

Ebon 12-02-2010 01:20 AM

I like them both for different reasons (but I like Firefly better than both of them).

Arwen 12-02-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rook (Post 239180)
I agree,
Blade Runner Rawks...I wanna buy the Directors Cut...

The "new" Star Trek, yeah...it did piss me off too...
I mean, c'mon, our "First Contact" was with Vulcan damnit ...
They were scouting, saw a signal, otherwise they'd keep flyin off in their study, waving off our sorry lil asses as too primitive to bother with...
:seeingstars:


Well this new Trek was way past first contact. And I really loved the shift in timeline/storyline. It gives the next movies so many places to go. The Spock/Uhura loveline? Yummmmmmy! More please! And maybe this Kirk won't be such a horny dog. My biggest complaint was the age of Scotty. His character came in too young for me.

Still, I'm anxiously awaiting the next Star Trek movie. There are more frontiers where we can boldly go.
:moonstars:

Sparkle 12-02-2010 02:00 PM

admittedly i am sans a strong opinion on this subject; but one of my *bests* works for lucas films and posted this... i thought it was cute:


Darth Denkay 12-05-2010 10:11 PM

I think my preference is obvious...


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