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Originally Posted by atomiczombie (Post 371336)

This really isn't about my religious views. I rarely if ever discuss those details on this site, to be honest, and I just said in my previous post here that I don't follow the Christian doctrine. And I am addressing a comment about how someone believes that one group of people are less intelligent and brave than another. I am not in any way shape or form bashing atheism, and I said that. I am addressing one particular thing that was said that I found pretty icky against a group of people I belong to.

Respectfully Ms Snow, I have seen you do this in threads on various topics where you see something that you find personally offensive. Just because this is a support thread for atheists, that doesn't mean it is ok for anyone to use this thread to say something unkind and mean about non-atheists. And yes, I fully acknowledge that atheists are often treated horribly by deists, and I think that is horrible. However, two wrongs don't make a right either.

I know I just did it in this very thread Drew I asked Jar not to come in and say something shitty, nor do I agree with with Tapu said, and now here we are in Ms Jennifer's thread talking about what I did in the past or what you want done or how off the wall the people who don't follow a doctrine are. I'm no saint Drew but also I just don't get why folks gotta come in here and be jerky about something or topics or what I've done in the past when it has NOTHING to do with the OP's intent. Like here. WE could address my transgressions in private instead of taking up more space in here. Cause frankly I don't believe I ever go into a thread and take a shit just cause I don't believe in something or have different beliefs unless it's an ism Drew and if you feel that is me being disrespectful I don't. ME going into a thread and calling an ism out or shitty behaviours is NOTHING like what has been said by Jar or Tapu just sayin' Drew.

yikes
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Originally Posted by atomiczombie (Post 371283)

Um, this isn't a very nice thing to say. I am not an atheist but I would never say something so rude. Really Jar, was this necessary?

I didn't mean it to be rude. I just mean that anyone that doesn't think there's more is out of tune. Just my opinion

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371374)

I didn't mean it to be rude. I just mean that anyone that doesn't think there's more is out of tune. Just my opinion

Can you clarify what this means? What makes you think that people don't think there is more?

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 371300)

Funny that's kind of how I feel about peobut"ple who believe in all those magical lies in the Bible..

Have you read Revelations?? Acid trip!!!

It's hard not to believe your intent was not to bash something when you come in ans say

"I won't bash it

It's pretty obvious when you start out like that your intent is to dump on a thread that really holds no interest for you, it's rather shitty to do.

I NEVER said that I believe in the bible because it was written by men who had thier own agendas.

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371384)

I NEVER said that I believe in the bible because it was written by men who had thier own agendas.

I never said you Jar believed in the bible. I was stating what I thought about the Bibles stories, not what Jar believes about the Bible stories.

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 371383)

Can you clarify what this means? What makes you think that people don't think there is more?

I'm just saying that if people don't think there's more than this life, then they're outa touch with the universe.

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 371345)

Mkay I will respond in a pm.

Oh, good, Jar. We're glad you're back to offer that clarification.

Others, this to me, seems like a classic troll situation. Does anyone know this poster? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but it seems obvious that it's not a sincere effort, if you will.

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 371394)

I have been on b-f.com and this site for years. You can ask most anybody here tofu

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371280)

wow. I won't bash it but I think athesists are so out of tune with the universe. Just sayin

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371390)

I'm just saying that if people don't think there's more than this life, then they're outa touch with the universe.

Really?
can you please back this up with facts, figures, proofs, etc?
can you please explain exactly why athesists are out of touch?
and out of touch with what in the universe?

and
why would you feel a need to come in this thread to express this OPINION?
and
then say you were not trying to be rude?
perhaps thoughtless would be a better word

if there is a hell
I plan on and assume I will be there
next to a lot of people who didn't think they would be in the same hand basket as me

anyway....

I am an atheist. I am certain there is more out there but it doesn't come in the form of deities. I think the science world is so untapped and what we know today about infinite space is just the tip of the iceberg. THAT is my more!!!

Religion or your belief in any form is always an interesting topic

I came here to read more on Atheists and find slamming others instead
As a person that likes to learn what others get out of their religion or belief, I'd appreciate it if someone would make some posts regarding the topic

I don't know much about Atheists other than they don't believe in God
I'll be back at another time to read more from the OP and other posters

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371412)

I have been on b-f.com and this site for years. You can ask most anybody here tofu

And well-respected, I'm sure. Please, hold forth.

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 371394)

No Jar is not a troll...

I also believe man created god not the other way around.

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 371432)

No Jar is not a troll...

thank you LadySnow. I just have different beliefs as we all do

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Originally Posted by WolfyOne (Post 371423)

Hi Wolfy
like everyone else, atheists have feelings and don't like to have others say things that imply they are out of tune with things in life. Hence the negativity.
Personally I have spent to much time in my life defending others rights to believe as they chose to not comment on this.

What do atheists, agnostics, pagans, spiritualists, humanists, etc believe? As with any belief, what is believed varies from person to person.

Personally I am a lapsed Catholic, a nonbelieving one though. I am quiet comfortable not knowing. I am clueless about what happens after life and don't at my age feel a need to know. I find that the older I get the less need I have to have any type of religious belief. I understand that it won't change anything, at all, about how I live my life.
I have ethics and values, arrived at by rational thought and kindness. The most basic of these values will be found in the basics of ANY religious belief.
Then again, most of them could change based upon extreme situations.

I believe that the planet is "alive" in the sense that all its systems work together and it changes, evolves and grows.
I believe that it is wise to work in harmony with the planet and with each other.
I believe most people are basically good (psycopaths/sociopaths being the true exception)
I believe most people want the same basic things, acceptance, love, to live and grow, raise a family if they chose, and to find some semblance of happiness.
I believe there are many paths to truth. BY this I mean, if you need a god to tell you not to kill or you will go to hell ok, I can figure out that if I get to kill someone, then the next person gets to kill someone, and someone may decide to kill me, so it is probably not a good thing to kill.
however god can forgive the breaking of the thou shall not kill command, freeing believers from guilt. I have no such system in place. If I kill without extreme justification (like that person is going to kill me) then I will live with the guilt of my actions the rest of my life.

enough for now

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Originally Posted by Jar (Post 371457)

thank you LadySnow. I just have different beliefs as we all do

You hit the nail on the head there Jar, we do have different beliefs, the term non believer annoys the hell out of me because frankly it's insulting and it insinuates that somehow atheists or agnostics or any one else other than those who believe in some Diety have no belief system. It's different than say the whole God created stuff in 7 days story.

I hope that Ms Jennifer's thread can continue to educate and give support to folks who have different thoughts, beliefs and ideals.

Thanks for coming back in and continuing to dialogue with everyone Jar:)

I really have issues with anyone telling me I'm doing it wrong. I don't need the christian god to have high standards and values, I don't appreciate christians telling me that there is only one way to be, to think to feel and to believe, or not as the case may be. I do think that we all come to this life naked and empty needing to be clothed and educated. How we got here isn't as important as how I live my life authentically.
I will not force my belief system on anyone and I wont stand by while Atheists are told they are doing it wrong. I live by my tag line, it doesn't mean anyone else has to.