EnderD,

I think in this case emotional safety = trigger for dysphoria, which is probably a better term for what I was asking about.

I do hear what you're saying and agree with you that there is quite a bit of diversity and no one single way to define the butch femme dynamic.

Thanks for sharing.
Pink.

Femme cock has never been part of my sexual proclivities. I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience something so foreign. So, I understand the emotional safety thing.

Me too. I don't think safe feelings are gender specific, is the point I was trying to make earlier. :)

True. I guess I've always assumed it's more emotionally stressful for the FTM, butch or male ID individual.

I agree with what apretty said on this one, as far as it not being gender-specific.

I don't think its always more emotionally stressful for certain identities than others. Even if many non-feminine identities suffer from dysphoria or are stone and don't feel connected with their physical anatomy that way, there are trans and other male, masculine or neutral identities who aren't dysphoric or have minimal dysphoria. I also think in these convos we tend to forget about pre-op transwomen (whether butch or femme) who are also a part of the b/f dynamic, and the dysphoria they might feel. Or stone femmes, not here meaning stone femmes who id as such because they prefer to be with stone butches, but stone femmes who don't like being touched/penetrated.

I don't think that it's because these women or feminine identities are more "rare" than non-feminine counterparts, but because sometimes, as a community, we focus too much on the struggles of non-feminine (here meaning gender neutral, gender fluid, third gender or male identities) identities. Not even as a community here, but as a greater lgbtq community. Like why aren't there as many books written on that form of female/woman/feminine sexuality as there are about male/masculine/gender neutral/fluid?

I'm also not sure these perspectives are easy to change. I've definitely heard what I'm saying here brought up many times before in this community and elsewhere, but it doesn't seem to change the subject of the majority of the discussions. So how do we change that?

BUMP!!!
 

i think the discussion about safety can cover so many difference perspectives. whether you are butch, femme, stone, ftm, mtf, genderqueer, intersexed, cis, or gender fluid.
It boils down to trust.
do i trust this person with my most vulnerable moments, to completely submit to them and open myself to them?
are you going to allow them to penetrate you physically, mentally, spiritually, metaphorically, partially, or completely?
can you count on this person to use discretion, and not tell your innermost passions to others, or use them against you in the future?
do i feel safe with this person?

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:cowboy:

I can say, as a preop tranwoman, that we vary, just as much as any other group does. Some do enjoy using their 'Original Equipment' while they have it, and for others, it is a complete turnoff. I have heard of some that prefer using a strapon, though I am certainly not one of them.
For me, using my 'original equipment' or a strapon triggers my dysphoria, and would be very uncomfortable. Others, however, are different.

mmm.. Not that I don't love getting into long winded debates about intimacy issues and security issues and what the difference between butch and FTM cock..

BUT..

I was kinda just hoping to talk about my cock and how much I enjoy it.. When I say my cock I am talking about the equipment I was born with and that I am slowly starting to love again. I love it so much that I posted a picture of it on another adult themed site.. It is getting bigger now that I am on T and is actually starting to stick out a lil more.. I look down sometimes and say, "go lil guy, GO!".. well not out loud.. but yeah..

Maybe that is what one could say along the topic of security.. I feel secure enough in my manhood not to be defined by how big it is.. I don't pack unless requested to. I prefer to feel my cock rub against whatever garment I'm wearing. I dislike having the lil guy all mashed up against a piece of silicone.. That is *MY* relationship with my cock.

I am no less and no better then anyone else on this site. This is my FTM cock and I am proud of it.

Now, did I derail the thread? I hope not.. Discussion is always good. People need it. For me, I needed to post about my cock. The end and thankyouverymuch.

-Tony and his oh so awesome FTM cock.

Hear Hear...Tender Knight...Bravo...I am proud of my little pecker too.
It works for me and for my partner. I never heard any complaints.
Oh but, maybe some women weren't honest or worried about my ego.
Fortunately, my pecker doesn't rule my ego:hangloose:

and it is really...hear him...hear him

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

:thinking:

Hmmm. me thinks that Mav didn't really mean to post this here..

Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.

OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery?

Would love to hear from you guys too..

How's it hanging?
 

Hangs right.. Right where I want it...

Kent, shouldn't that be where your darling wants it? :eyebat: