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Electrocell 04-15-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gaea (Post 565417)
I have not yet....i thought about this when i woke up.

Would be interesting to find out.

gaea 04-15-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Electrocell (Post 565460)
Would be interesting to find out.

my research so far has not pulled up anything for a wedding that may have occurred on the ship..it has however pulled up various other things.

Gráinne 04-15-2012 12:14 PM

What many people don't realize is that the Titanic was meant to be one of three superliners going back and forth across the Atlantic. The White Star Line looked at the rivalry with the Cunard Line (Lusitania and Mauretania), and decided not to go for speed but for luxury-and the ships were supposed to be the last word in that, even in third class.

Olympic was finished first and had a long career, only ending in 1935. Britannic was finished with new safety features after the Titanic sank, but became a hospital ship and hit a mine off of Greece in 1914.

White Star Line was never quite the same; WWI and the Depression after that cut down on profits in the long run, as well as not so many immigrants, the real "bread and butter" of the line. I believe most of the great liners (Mauretania among them) were done by the mid 1930's.

Ciaran 04-15-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by guihong (Post 565528)
I believe most of the great liners (Mauretania among them) were done by the mid 1930's.

Yes, it was. However, a successor, also called Mauretania, was constructed and continued to sail on transatlantic voyages for a number of decades. I met a number of people who sailed on the Mauretania in 1949 - they were members of the Belfast Celtic soccer team who toured the United States and Canada that summer.


A number of years ago, I obtained many of the personal artefacts of a famous European soccer star. Included amongst these artefacts were a number of itineraries, dinner menus and certificates for a number of transatlantic cruises in the 1940s and 1950s. It was interesting to note that passengers received certificates when completing some of these voyages .... It really does bring home the different era and how travelling long journeys on the seas must have been a real adventure and experience.

Gráinne 04-15-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciaran (Post 565534)
Yes, it was. However, a successor, also called Mauretania, was constructed and continued to sail on transatlantic voyages for a number of decades. I met a number of people who sailed on the Mauretania in 1949 - they were members of the Belfast Celtic soccer team who toured the United States and Canada that summer.


A number of years ago, I obtained many of the personal artefacts of a famous European soccer star. Included amongst these artefacts were a number of itineraries, dinner menus and certificates for a number of transatlantic cruises in the 1940s and 1950s. It was interesting to note that passengers received certificates when completing some of these voyages .... It really does bring home the different era and how travelling long journeys on the seas must have been a real adventure and experience.

Yes, if you could afford even a second-class ticket on one of those ships, how much fun that would have been compared to being sealed in a tube and shot across by air. It would have been different than the cruise ships of today, which are giant parties on water.

But then again, maybe the passengers of the Titanic's time didn't find it "fun", especially in third class. And I would not want to live 24/7 back then. I don't know how to say what I mean very well..but just to sit on the furnishings, or have a cup of tea on the deck :). It's a lost experience.

gaea 04-15-2012 04:04 PM

I have never been in a cruise ship however when I think about being on one my thoughts are often times that of me sitting on the deck with a book feeling the air and having the scent of the ocean all around me.

I often wonder why there aren't more stories of the engineers the employees the maids waiters waitresses etc. where are all their stories ? it's really hard web I see how the second and third class passengers were forced to be locked down below ...I don't understand classism now and I probably never will.

gaea 04-15-2012 04:05 PM

there is that somethig beautiful about the titanic.

princessbelle 04-15-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gaea (Post 565688)
there is that something beautiful about the titanic.

I agree gaea. I have long loved the "Titanic" movies and attractions. There is one such attraction close to where i live, which is in Pigeon Forge. It was pretty cool with a lot of the memorabilia from the ship and the entire building is a replication of the bow of the Titanic and it even has the massive staircase and the clock at the top. There is an area that you can touch the water and feel how cold it was that night that it sank.

However, lately, i have had some different feelings as well. I have watched some of the documentaries on it and actually anything that i find i want to see it. The different feelings i have had of late, is of deep sadness.

The lives lost, the tormented third class passengers locked below and drowned just because of their class, as well as some higher class folks.

I guess it's really all of these things to me...

Grand
Beautiful
Mysterious
and of late...Very Sad.

All in all it is quite the ship and quite the story.

gaea 04-15-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 565721)
I agree gaea. I have long loved the "Titanic" movies and attractions. There is one such attraction close to where i live, which is in Pigeon Forge. It was pretty cool with a lot of the memorabilia from the ship and the entire building is a replication of the bow of the Titanic and it even has the massive staircase and the clock at the top. There is an area that you can touch the water and feel how cold it was that night that it sank.

However, lately, i have had some different feelings as well. I have watched some of the documentaries on it and actually anything that i find i want to see it. The different feelings i have had of late, is of deep sadness.

The lives lost, the tormented third class passengers locked below and drowned just because of their class, as well as some higher class folks.

I guess it's really all of these things to me...

Grand
Beautiful
Mysterious
and of late...Very Sad.

All in all it is quite the ship and quite the story.

It is, maybe ill get to pigeon forge too. What was your experinace like when you wen there?

JAGG 04-15-2012 08:13 PM

Wow Gaea my 8yr old neice has a strange obsession with it too. She kind of wore me out this weekend with it. We had to watch 2 movies that were airing on tv yesterday and I bought her a book at the mall when we were out yesterday, about the titanic. She just had to have it.
She has a strange obsession with Will Rogers too. Who knows? But I believe she is an "old" soul so no telling what's behind it all. I guess she could be obsessed about worse things right?

princessbelle 04-15-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gaea (Post 565876)
It is, maybe ill get to pigeon forge too. What was your experinace like when you wen there?

Well they try and make it realistic. They give you a card and you are then "one of the passengers" The card has their specific history on it and what they were like at the time. I think i was some sort of maid to a rich family, if i remember correctly, then you go through and see a bunch of dinnerware and clothes and suitcases and all sorts of things from the ship.

At the end you find out if you lived or died.

I died...i think.

It was so very sad :( BUT a great experience and very fascinating.

gaea 04-15-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 565911)
Wow Gaea my 8yr old neice has a strange obsession with it too. She kind of wore me out this weekend with it. We had to watch 2 movies that were airing on tv yesterday and I bought her a book at the mall when we were out yesterday, about the titanic. She just had to have it.
She has a strange obsession with Will Rogers too. Who knows? But I believe she is an "old" soul so no telling what's behind it all. I guess she could be obsessed about worse things right?

yes there could be a lot worse things in life. it's good she has an interest in something historical.

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Originally Posted by princessbelle (Post 565932)
Well they try and make it realistic. They give you a card and you are then "one of the passengers" The card has their specific history on it and what they were like at the time. I think i was some sort of maid to a rich family, if i remember correctly, then you go through and see a bunch of dinnerware and clothes and suitcases and all sorts of things from the ship.

At the end you find out if you lived or died.

I died...i think.

It was so very sad :( BUT a great experience and very fascinating.

that sounds like a rather amazing experience. :) now one I hope to have myself.

macele 04-15-2012 09:51 PM

before you enter the museum, they offer a radio type deal, ... rent. some exhibits tell a story about the things (like, a life jacket from the titanic) found in the titanic. rent the radio, you'll enjoy more so with it.

the same niece i went with to the museum, she did a storyboard for school about the titanic. there seems to be a big interest with young girls.

LaneyDoll 04-15-2012 10:13 PM

Gaea, I think you and I are long lost relatives. I have always had a fascination with everything Titanic. I have had nightmares involving water but learned how to swim at a very early age so I am not scared of water.

I once had someone do a past life reading on me and everything she touched on is something that I am fascinated with. Titanic, Japanese culture related to the time period of the Geisha etc.

So, perhaps my intrigue is based on memory. It is hard to say. It could be that the last moments of Titanic, the last time Titanic and many of those aboard saw life happened on my birthday (although 61 years prior).

Whatever the reason, that connection does seem to exist.

:sparklyheart:

macele 04-17-2012 07:11 AM

this might be of interest to you all. i think it is this video that talks about connections.

http://www.pbs.org/special/titanic-1...r-anniversary/

gaea 04-17-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 565970)
Gaea, I think you and I are long lost relatives. I have always had a fascination with everything Titanic. I have had nightmares involving water but learned how to swim at a very early age so I am not scared of water.

I once had someone do a past life reading on me and everything she touched on is something that I am fascinated with. Titanic, Japanese culture related to the time period of the Geisha etc.

So, perhaps my intrigue is based on memory. It is hard to say. It could be that the last moments of Titanic, the last time Titanic and many of those aboard saw life happened on my birthday (although 61 years prior).

Whatever the reason, that connection does seem to exist.

:sparklyheart:

Reading this gave me chills. Ive never met anyone else who suffers water based nightmares..

I too believe in the "soul" memories

cinderella 04-17-2012 07:34 AM

Relieved? How so? That seems an odd comment.

I too have had a fascination with all things Titanic. I guess all tragedies have some sort of fascination...why this is, I can't say, but it's true. Something about the horrificness of such disasters that seem to fascinate - like watching a building that's on fire - it's perverse, but we can't seem to help it.

Every April 15, I say a small prayer for all those lost souls of The Titanic. My heart hurts when I think of that tragedy. I imagine myself amongst those still on the ship while it was going down, but nothing I can ever imagine can ever come close to the reality. I esp think about the children, and how terrified they must've been. More then 1500 souls lost their lives that horrible night. May they all rest in peace. Stories like the sinking of Titanic has struck fear in my heart, and keeps me from ever going on a cruise, or boats going out in deep water.


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Originally Posted by gaea (Post 565236)
I am so glad there is another..here at least we are about to celebrate 100 years...

Im saddened by this event and yet somehow relieved by it at the same time.


gaea 04-17-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 566719)
Relieved? How so? That seems an odd comment.

I too have had a fascination with all things Titanic. I guess all tragedies have some sort of fascination...why this is, I can't say, but it's true. Something about the horrificness of such disasters that seem to fascinate - like watching a building that's on fire - it's perverse, but we can't seem to help it.

Every April 15, I say a small prayer for all those lost souls of The Titanic. My heart hurts when I think of that tragedy. I imagine myself amongst those still on the ship while it was going down, but nothing I can ever imagine can ever come close to the reality. I esp think about the children, and how terrified they must've been. More then 1500 souls lost their lives that horrible night. May they all rest in peace. Stories like the sinking of Titanic has struck fear in my heart, and keeps me from ever going on a cruise, or boats going out in deep water.

I cant explain the feeling of relief or even why I had that feeling, i am not even sure from where it came just that it was there.

Ciaran 04-17-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gaea (Post 566714)
Ive never met anyone else who suffers water based nightmares..

I too believe in the "soul" memories

I
I'm no expert on dreams but I'm pretty sure that water-related dreams and nightmares are relatively common and that has been the case long before The Titanic was ever thought of (think of Shakespeare's The Tempest for references to water-related dreams).

I experience water-related nightmares regularly but these are tsunami / wall of water related, sometimes terrifying and totally unrelated to The Titanic in anyway.


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