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Guess what? He probably IS one of us. Just like Roy Cohn was. We can claim him AND know him for what he is -- ever see Angels in America?
Hey, we don't get to choose. And conservatives hate sex and complexity and will see what they want to see. Can we worry about that? Is it good to rewrite history and ignore the truth out of fear that they might think something they already want to believe? |
people like this guy and ted hagard and the myriad of other hypocrites in the world deserve this shit and deserve everything else coming thier way....
these kinds of hypocrites are what "outing" is all about and if they didnt learn from groups like act-up and queer nation then woe is them because people love nothing more than to knock hypocrites like this piece of shit off of their proverbial fucking high horse....these people are leading a movement of hate and vitriol not only here but now they do it in Uganda, other parts of africa etc.....its disgusting and what a better and fitting end to a piece of shit like this...now maybe he will shut his mouth and crawl into the ground this asshat is proclaiming so much hatred and bullshit like reparative therapy etc that he deserves to have the world come crashing down some rich gay or lesbian should put their money where their mouth is like larry flynt did when the conservative movement was busting out all of the cheating politicians in washington...he put up a million dollars to anyone who could provide evidence of republican politicians who were cheating on thier wives etc....and oh how the mighty fell....Henry Hyde,, poof busted out...evan bayah...busted etc the list was long and Larry Flynt put his money where his mouth is... bust wide out all of those lying cheating hypocrites spouting off thier hatred and bullshit and let the world see how they really are....these fuckers telling gay and lesbians how to turn themselves straight while they go do some rails of crystal meth and get serviced by rent boys fuck that and keep busting out those pieces of shit i hope the rent boy goes on oprah lol |
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<snip> Reached Tuesday afternoon by phone, a man purporting to be Roman repeatedly declined to discuss any details of being hired by Rekers for a recent 10-day trip to Madrid and London. “I don’t think people realize how serious this has gotten, and I would have talked about this had my privacy been respected,” Roman said, referring to his Rentboy.com profile, which was posted Tuesday byUnzipped, followed by several gay blogs. “There’s absolutely nothing else I can say,” Roman added. ----- In a Wednesday statement on his website, Rekers referred to Roman — known on his Rentboy profile as “Geo” and as “Mark” on a profile on Men4RentNow.com — as his “travel assistant” who was hired “to lift his luggage in his travels because of an ongoing condition following surgery.” “A recent article in an alternative newspaper cleverly gave false impressions of inappropriate behavior because of its misleading innuendo, incorrectly implying that Professor George Rekers used the Rentboy website to hire a prostitute to accompany him on a recent trip,” the statement read. “Dr. Rekers found his recent travel assistant by interviewing acquaintances, and only found out about his travel assistant’s alleged prostitution activity and Internet advertisements during the trip. There was nothing inappropriate with this relationship. Professor Rekers was not involved in any illegal or sexual behavior with his travel assistant." The Miami New Times broke the story in a Tuesdayarticle, referring to the escort using the pseudonym “Lucien.” The story was quickly followed in the LGBT media and mainstream outlets, including CBS News and TheWashington Post. Despite his statement, Rekers intimated in a Tuesday message via Facebook toJoe.My.Godblogger Joe Jervis that he had hired the escort as part of his ongoing Christian ministry. Rekers said he shared “scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse” with the young man whom he had hired. “Like Jesus Christ, I deliberately spend time with sinners with the loving goal to try to help them,” Rekers wrote. ......... |
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i didn't read my post as othering sex workers, but okay. |
What's sad is I HAD to go check out that website... rentboy.com
I'm curious like that. Can't give me a site name that makes me laugh and not have me check it out. |
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Contrary to false gossip, innuendo, and slander about me, I do not in any way "hate" homosexuals, but I seek to lovingly share two types of messages to them, as I did with the young man called "Lucien" in the news story: [1] It is possible to cease homosexual practices to avoid the unacceptable health risks associated with that behavior, and [2] the most important decision one can make is to establish a relationship with God for all eternity by trusting in Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross for the forgiveness of your sins, including homosexual sins. I wonder how he was able to do all this as he sucked his *assistants* dick... What an ass hat! Jesus told me to kick a juice box off his neck.... |
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"In my opinion, that fucker has blood on his hands for all the "Good Works" he has done."
well said June him and many others have blood on their hands.......and i hope everyone of these fuckin evangelists or whatever the fuck they call themselves gets caught out in the open.....outing started out for this reason and more of them should have to face this justice imho..... |
Isn't our community having a slut night something that would totally FREAK out an outsider? I'd hate to be judged for that one night.
I can see all the points, but I still don't know that it causes those of us who live a normal life (whatever that means) erasure or invisibility. I'm willing to learn though. Off to ponder. |
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I am so not an expert in psychological theory, but my understanding of Jung's "shadow aspect" is that people tend to take the things they dislike about themselves and try to reject those things. But they can't really eradicate those qualities within themselves - they can only repress them.
From wikipedia - because I'm an intellectual like that - According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections are unrecognized "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power." These projections insulate and cripple individuals by forming an ever thicker fog of illusion between the ego and the real world. I do wish Jung hadn't used images of dark and light to make his point, but I do think he has a point that the things you repress/despise in yourself get projected onto others. I think it goes along with that saying, "The things you despise most in others are the things you despise most in yourself." |
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It all began with Shakespeare, didn't it? ~ when he wrote something along the lines of: "Methinks thou doth protest too much." I think it was Shakespeare.... EDITED: I had to go look...yes on the Shakespeare, from Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks. |
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Frankly, if he were living as a private person, minding his own business and letting others live the way they want to, then he can hire all the rent-boys or whatever he likes, and do whatever he wants. I won't judge...and truly don't care. He can be open about his lifestyle, keep it a secret, whatever....his call. It's when people try to tell me how to live, legislate my morality and judge me...while acting hypocritically...that I get a little ticked off. Actually, more than a little. I'm glad he's getting a nice dose of public humiliation. He's earned it. I feel a bit bad for the escort, who didn't ask for this kind of publicity. But as far as Rekers goes...I'm ready to hold the juice box on his neck so Lady Snow can get a really good shot. |
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Did I happen to mention that this Rekers guy looks frightening similar to my Christian fundamentalist ex~husband? :| I know. |
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What makes a person shape their entire life around gay people, what the gays are doing, how bad the gays are, etc? I think it's gotta be a pretty short list of motivations. |
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Interview--Michael Signornile and Joe Jervis (of joemygod.blogspot.com who has communicated with Rekers via FB and is all over it)
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Okay...I'm sorry....but this just made me giggle :giggle:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/....1207277030..1 |
George Rekers Is a Homosexual, Escort Says
The male escort hired by anti-gay activist George Alan Rekers has told Miami New Times the Baptist minister is a homosexual who paid him to provide body rubs once a day in the nude, during their ten-day vacation in Europe. Rekers allegedly named his favorite maneuver the "long stroke" -- a complicated caress "across his penis, thigh... and his anus over the butt cheeks," as the escort puts it. "Rekers liked to be rubbed down there," he says. In his first interview since New Times broke the story Tuesday, the 20-year-old escort, who prefers to go by the name Lucien, contradicts Rekers's contentions that he hired the escort to help carry his luggage and that he was trying to save the soul of a lost sinner. Although Rekers does have physical ailments that make it difficult for him to haul suitcases, Lucien wasn't hired to carry luggage on their European vacation, the escort says. "It's a situation where he's going against homosexuality when he is a homosexual," Lucien says. |
JMG Readers Shut Down Florida AG Bill McCollum's Facebook Campaign Page
Thanks to the thousands of you that heeded my call to visit Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum's gubernatorial campaign Facebook page, the page's administrators have repeatedly closed it down, wiping out all of the entries demanding his response to the Rekers scandal. My outclick tracker thingy tells me that 22,441 of you hit his page in the last 24 hours and I thank all 22,441 of you beautiful people, whether you left him a message or not. And big thanks to Michelanglo Signorile, who yesterday sent his listeners there too. We've gotten McCollum's attention, that much is certain. Today we're waiting for a response from the Florida Department of Children and Families, to whom McCollum's office yesterday passed the buck regarding the $87,000 payment to Dr. George Rekers so he could continue his campaign to rip apart Florida's gay families. |
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This is probably a derail, but since 'Slut Night' was brought up, I thought perhaps those who don't know, should know where that came from. This will be the short and sweet version.
ButchFemme Socials of Oakland/San Francisco has been doing Socials for over 10 years now. In Oakland, we originally did them at the White Horse (fondly know as 'the Ho'). At one of our first Socials, one of the femmes in attendance had on a black form fitting dress that could have been a slip. She went to the bar to get a cocktail and the old gay man bartender told her she needed to put some clothes on.....that she was dressed inappropriately. She came over to me and said that man had insulted her and hurt her feelings......well......... laughin.....that set me off and I ended up threatening to strip down to my boxers (with all the butches behind me)...which I wasn't wearing........long story short....one of the femmes said 'if he thinks that is slutty, we can show him slutty'......and Slut Night was born. The first Slut Night was held for the next social at the Ho and the femmes came in all their slut finery.......corsets, garters, etc.......a tradition was born and continues to this day at various times across the country. ------- I got nothing but disgust for hypocrisy. |
miss juney da poodle...........
I know nothin about no 'long strokin'....nothin... :riding2: and just so ya know.....that femme who was in the inappropriate dress is a PhD professor of economics at a 'prestigious' college somewhere in the US.......... we got us some smart sluts around here........... |
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I love this article. I love that it includes all these so called pastors, ministers, tele evangelists reagrdless of whether it is sex with male or female prostitutes, killing wives, or just saying crazy stuff like Robinson does regularly. This article shows the hypocrisy of all of them. Why do people still follow and believe the junk they spew. Ultimately they are the agents of their own demise. We just have to sit back and wait. Haggard is out there now trying to rehab his image and I'm sick of seeing him. Rufus |
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It keeps getting better.
May 9, 2010
Far Right Leader Busted With Gay Escort Got Taxpayer Money from GOP Gov Candidate to Bash Gays Alternet. This post originally appeared on Washington Monthly. REKERS GOT TAXPAYER MONEY FROM FLORIDA’S MCCOLLUM…. At first blush, the controversy surrounding George Alan Rekers is just another embarrassment for the religious right movement, and another example of bizarre personal hypocrisy on the far-right. But the story might turn out to be more politically relevant than first believed. If you’re just joining us, Rekers, a Baptist minister who worked with James Dobson to create the right-wing Family Research Council, has long been a virulently anti-gay crusader. It was interesting, then, when we learned this week that Rekers hired a young, male prostitute to join him on a European vacation last month. Rekers met his travel companion on a website devoted to connecting gay escorts with clients. Though Rekers later said he merely counseled his companion on how to stop being gay, the escort later said the two were physically intimate. Yesterday, however, the larger story took on a new angle. Rachel Slajda reports that Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum (R), currently a leading gubernatorial candidate, used taxpayer money to pay Rekers to bash gays. [McCollum] paid George Rekers at least $60,900 to be an expert witness in 2008 while defending Florida’s ban against gay couple adopting children. When a judge called Rekers’ testimony neither “credible nor worthy of forming the basis of public policy,” McCollum explicitly defended him in following briefs. Rekers is currently embroiled in a scandal for hiring a male escort to accompany him on a trip to Europe. But he’s also a leader in the ex-gay movement. He co-founded the Family Research Council and sits on the board of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality. He has, by all accounts, dedicated his life to protecting children from the “harmful” influence of gay people. In his testimony for the state of Florida, Rekers testified that homosexual people have a higher incidence of depression, substance abuse and break-ups than heterosexual people. This, he testified, made homosexual partners incapable of “providing a safe and secure and emotionally stable environment for the child.” Rekers’ anti-gay testimony was ridiculous, and the judge in the case rejected his remarks, noting that his conclusions are “motivated by his strong ideological and theological convictions that are not consistent with the science.” But this certainly seems like an area that warrants some follow-up. Bill McCollum used at least $60,900 in taxpayer money — more than most Americans earn in a year — to pay Rekers to make ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims against gay people? And then we find out that Rekers also gallivanted through Europe with a male prostitute? McCollum has been leading in most statewide polls, but this one might leave a mark. |
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George Rekers Resigns From Anti-Gay Group In Wake Of 'Rentboy' Scandal
HuffPo First Posted: 05-12-10 09:32 AM, Updated: 05-12-10 11:38 AM Prominent anti-gay activist George Rekers, who was caught last week returning from a 10-day trip to Europe with a male escort he found on Rentboy.com, has terminated his association with a major anti-gay group. Rekers has resigned from the board of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, or NARTH, "to allow myself the time necessary to fight the false media reports that have been made against me," the retired professor said in a statement. Once again, Rekers declined to dispute specific elements of the Miami New Times' coverage, choosing instead to contradict its obvious implications. "With the assistance of a defamation attorney, I will fight these false reports because I have not engaged in any homosexual behavior whatsoever," he said. "I am not gay and never have been." NARTH, which advocates "therapy" to convert gays and fights scientific research suggesting that such treatment is ludicrous, attached a statement to Rekers' resignation asserting that his apparent hypocrisy does not reflect on their work. A NARTH spokesman told TPM that the extent of the organization's involvement in the Rentboy scandal is to tell Rekers "if he is innocent he needs to get a good lawyer." Rekers is no stranger to courtrooms. As Michael Rogers notes, Rekers has testified against gay adoption on behalf of the states of Florida and Arkansas, for which he was paid $120,000 by Florida and $60,000 by Arkansas -- the latter in a settlement following a two-year court battle after he billed Arkansas for $165,000. In each case, the presiding judge called Rekers' testimony "extremely suspect" or concluded that "the court cannot consider his testimony to be credible nor worthy of forming the basis of public policy." The escort Rekers was caught with, Jo-Vanni Roman, appeared on "Anderson Cooper 360" to talk about their trip to Europe. Roman didn't have too many new details, but he talks a bit about some elements of the contract Rekers drew up, which required that Roman spend eight hours and eat two meals with him per day during the trip. |
McCollum says he needed Rekers in case challenging state gay adoption ban
Attorney General Bill McCollum Tuesday defended his personal intervention into the selection of an antigay expert witness in the case defending the state's gay adoption ban, saying his office "searched a long time" for someone and that George Rekers was the only one of two they could find. Records show that McCollum personally requested that the state's Department of Children & Families hire Rekers at $300 an hour to help the state defend the case. When the agency balked at the price tag, McCollum's office persisted, ultimately leading to DCF paying pay him $120,000 over two years. McCollum said that while he would not hire Rekers again knowing what he knows now -- that Rekers vacationed for two weeks in Europe with a gay male escort from Miami and received sexual massages from him -- he suggested that without Rekers the agency would not have been successful. DCF lost the case in circuit court and the matter is now on appeal. Here's a Q and A between McCollum and reporters today: Q: Did you push for Rekers because he was the only expert you could find that represented the point of view that you wanted to take in that case? A: The attorney generals office played its traditional role and defended DCF and the legal challenge, McCollum said. "There was a search that I oversaw and saw for the best available experts. Dr. Rekers was one of the two expert witnesses we used in this case. We recommended both to the department. They decided to hire Dr. Rekers and they paid him. "If I knew what I know today would I recommend him again? Of course not. Would I ever recommend him again? No. But he was the best available at the time.'' Q: Was he the only available? A: "There were two." Q: There were only two you could find in the whole nation? A: "There were only two willing to step forward and testify and we searched a long time. His credentials were very good and, on paper, excellent. That's why we recommended it because those kinds of people that we were able to fill for the job. It's nice to quarterback in hindsight but we didn't know his background that we know today. Nobody else did." Q: Does it raise some questions about about the nature of hiring an expert witnesses? ...If you are trying to find an expert witness who will only say one thing and you can only find two people who will only say one thing does that raise any questions in your mind about the legal principle here? A: "If you want to look at the whole system of law today, the battle of expert witnesses needs to be addressed. But the way our system works today, expert witnessses are important. You have to establish your case. We happened to be on the side of the state. You've got to get the very best you can." Q: If you didn't have an expert witness what would have happened to your case? A: "If you don't have an expert witness you aren't going to be as successful...I didn't try the case. These are our lawyers for the department and I'm proud of our lawyer team." Q: Should the state ask for its money back? A: "I can't comment on the litigation itself. It's an ongoing process." |
Who will fill Georges shoes?
Commentary: Professor George Rekers explains it all
Fred Grimm | The Miami Herald last updated: May 10, 2010 01:31:55 PM If Professor George gets away with this, I'm going straight to Rentgirl. It's my bad back. Not that I'm suggesting George Rekers went straight to Rentboy, the explicit website where his fellow traveler advertises a willingness "to do anything you say as long as you ask." Professor George, as he styles himself on his website, ProfessorGeorge.com , offers a vaguely plausible (alcohol might help) explanation. He didn't procure the services of a 20-year-old male prostitute to join him on a 10-day-jaunt through England and Spain for purposes of prostitution. "Following medical advice Professor George Rekers requires an assistant to lift his luggage in his travels because of an ongoing condition following surgery." With a line like that, and a note from a doctor, who knows how many relationships I might have salvaged? To be fair, Professor George has never testified that gays don't make splendid international traveling companions. George Rekers was paid handsomely by Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum ($60,900) and the state of Arkansas ($60,000), to flog gay men and women as unfit parents. Particularly adoptive parents. As a bonus, at no extra charge, Rekers testified in Miami-Dade Circuit Court that he also considered American Indians to be in the same risky category. Best I can tell, Rekers has never disparaged the fitness of gays or Indians to hump his baggage. George Rekers comes with a lot of baggage. Rekers, 61, of North Miami, a Baptist minister and a retired professor of behavior science, has long provided academic cover for the Christian right's anti-gay agenda. He's written books, delivered lectures and provided pithy quotes that intimate a scientific basis for opposition to gay adoption and gay marriage. |
I am wondering who will expertly hate on us now that Georgie is unavailable?
He was crucial as an expert witness in both Florida and Arkansas banning adoptions by gays. BUT according to the AG's office in FL, there were only two such *experts* willing to come forward and testify. I am hoping that his fall from grace will result in more than a resounding *thud* as conservative groups trip over themselves to put some distance between Professor George and their organizations. I am hoping that there will be nobody left. Dare I hope that his actions take away his credibility as an expert in appellate court? |
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Let's hope.
BTW, what is his problem with Native Americans? I had no idea he had it out for more than just us. |
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