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scootebaby 12-21-2011 01:34 PM

DISCLAIMER--these are things i have ALWAYS demanded and are not directed at any one partner!
 
took me awhile to figure out if i even had 3....some may say i have many others may agree on the ones i list....either way this is what I feel........


1....HONESTY!!! if you cant/dont/wont be honest about the small,mundane things because you dont want to deal/hear my reaction,then its a good indicator u really wont be honest about the big things....this in turns destroys everything else--trust,passion,openness!


2...if you dont understand the relationship/connection i have with my son,at least respect it...after all i have known him longer,i KNOW his negatives and positives.

and i had to struggle to find the 3rd one but....

3...dont talk out both sides of your mouth! dont say what u think i want to hear,dont try to impress me

Kätzchen 12-21-2011 02:29 PM

-be appreciative of wicked smart intelligence
-must love hunting ;)
-sharing a love for all seasons

Truly Scrumptious 12-21-2011 02:46 PM

Things like honesty, compassion, sense of humour (including the ability to laugh at oneself) and good hygiene are givens. I mean, I wouldn’t be considering a relationship without them. But assuming those criteria are met, my next 3 are:

Must love to “do” the beach the way I do.
I used to say I wanted someone who loved the beach. Then I learned almost everyone loves the beach, but that saying so means different things to different people. Some people mean they like to look at it, some like to walk on it, some like to spend an hour or so there. I like to get there before anyone else does, and leave after everyone else has. I can spend 9 or 10 hours at a stretch there, and then come back and do it again the next day.

Must love mushrooms.
Two partners who hated them and one who was ambivalent about something I love so much made this a requirement.

Must be able to let things go.
Look, we’re going to hurt each other from time to time . . . it just happens. I try hard to say what I mean, mean what I say, and not say it mean, but every so often I am going to say something I don’t mean, or do something without thinking it through . . . everyone does. I am too old and tired to carry a grudge, or to deal with the silent treatment while I try to figure out what I’ve done wrong, and anyway, I’ve probably already forgotten it. I let these things go quickly. I don’t think everything needs to be hashed out, and could live the rest of my life happily never hearing the words “I need to process this” ever again.

This of course only applies to (what to me are) little things, because there is no coming back from (what to me are) big things like cheating.

twist of lime 12-21-2011 03:26 PM

Well, I gave this a go, like, 12 times and it just seems to turn into an insurmountable list.

*feeling a bit unreasonable : /



Dominique 12-21-2011 04:28 PM

OK, No wire hangars was funny (I think)

My list is short and sweet.

No cigarettes, no drugs, no drunks

Sassy 12-21-2011 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 489959)
- ..and does not like the Yankees or any quarterback named Manning or Tebow.

I <3 heart <3 this

I live in Seminole country. I hate the name Tebow.

*laughs!* ;)

Elijah 12-21-2011 05:15 PM

No substance abusers (I am 9 years clean and sober)

Honesty. Period.

A sense of humor.

Kinky or open to it.

No. Drama.

(I don't follow rules so well)

HoustonHuny 12-21-2011 06:41 PM

When the love bug hits me....Everything is negotiable. :goodscore:

Soft*Silver 12-21-2011 07:03 PM

you must know who red skelton is and adore him

traditions are important to me and my adult daughter. Honor them and help us create some for you and us

speaking of, its a package deal...me and the adult kid, and any grandchildren that might come along.

Gemme 12-21-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jett (Post 489090)
It's a hard question because I'll think of ten things that do really matter to me by the time I post this... okies, here we go.

1. A stable personality... that comes out that way, if you say six different things depending on your mood we have a big problem right there, I need to know where someones really coming from without having to read between the lines or compare all your statements and guess which one is the overall truth.

My friend, if there are many out there who think this way, I am doomed. It's the curse of the Gemini to feel everything a different way at different times. It's the built in flibbertygibbet in us.

:princess:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Quintease (Post 489125)
And 5. Must like chocolate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS Butch (Post 489454)
Well, dang.... I guess that means we won't ever date :sunglass:.... I am not a chocolate lover....Odd but true....Hey wait.... Does giving chocolate count;)

I'd like to expound on this a little bit more. How about we take Quintease's chocolate demand and make it

And 5. Doesn't have to like or love chocolate, but must like or love giving me chocolate, in large quantities.

Is that acceptable?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Truly Scrumptious (Post 490187)
Must love mushrooms.
Two partners who hated them and one who was ambivalent about something I love so much made this a requirement.

I :stillheart: this.

Gemme 12-21-2011 07:41 PM

For myself, I also have a difficult time narrowing something so complex down to just three ticks on a list but these are the really, truly big ones:

1. No abuse. You will not hit me. You will not force me to do things I don't want to do (the occasional making me go out to visit Auntie Maude and Uncle Fester when I really don't feel like leaving the house is okay....). There will be no non-concentual roughness of any kind. This include physical, mental and emotional domains.

2. Mind your addictions. Non-prescription, illegal drugs are not welcome. Neither is excessive drinking. Neither is betting on the ponies. Neither is bedding anyone and/or everyone you meet. The internet is negotiable, as I have a small addiction to it as well.

3. Respect. You will give what you get with me. You give me shit, then that is what you receive. You give me kindness and consideration and respect and tenderness and you shall receive those back in spades.

AtLast 12-21-2011 09:03 PM

No lying, period. Even if my feelings could be hurt by something, I'd rather have the truth and deal with what it means.

Self-sufficiency and an adult- I am not a Daddy (no negative judgement of others in alternative types of relationships, this is just not for me).

Self-examined and aware that our actions do effect others- guess this is about not being entitled and unaware of others around us.

Have to add that I can't be with someone that drinks a lot. And I don't know if I would do well with a recovering alcoholic or other substance abuser to be honest.

Hummm... as an older person, I find that there are many things I just won't deal with that I may have in the past. Love and partnership is a wonderful thing, but I just don't have the same need for a relationship as I did earlier in my life. Maybe it is just that relationship variables have just changed as I have aged and I am used to and like living on my own. The last LTR (6 years, prior one 21 years), I did not live with my partner and it worked well for both of us. Although, we lived about 20 minutes from one another.

Gemme 12-21-2011 10:58 PM

And....you will tell me when I spell nonconsensual wrong.

BEFORE I post.

:blink:

DapperButch 12-21-2011 11:39 PM

1) Integrity

2) The person prefers a stone partner

3) The person consciously works towards being the best self that they can be in all areas of their life (in love, in their work, in their mental health, in their financial choices, in their family relationships, etc.)

Butterbean 12-21-2011 11:42 PM

1. My toaster strudel is mine.

2. My toaster strudel is mine.

3. My toaster strudel is mine.


Some things are sacred.

foxyshaman 12-22-2011 12:05 AM

1. Don't spy on me. If I am doing something, it WILL be in the open. This girl is way too wise to hide.

2. I am not your "everything". We are separate entities. You can live without me. Proof - we met - therefore, you were alive previously.

3. Having super honed intuition gives me a tad leg up. Lie... I'll know. But you won't necessarily know I do. Self-Hanging is not fun to watch, but I won't intervene.

Just_G 12-22-2011 01:25 AM

I will say that three non-negotiables for ME:

1. The dogs sleep in the bed...they were here first :winky:

2. No Missouri Tiger fans. NONE. Zilch. Zero.

3. You've gotta like to go dancing! (and if you want to take some ballroom lessons with me, you get extra credit!! :winky:)


mustangjeano 12-22-2011 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyhawkxx (Post 490013)
WHAT?? What's this I'm reading....? Are you being totally reasonable here or what? This is incredible! A Butch with reasonable expectations for hys woman/femme! OMG - (walks directly into wall in front of me - SMAK!!) ((((((MUSTANGJEANO)))))) I think I just might love ya!!!! LH

There IS a Santa Clause, there IS a Santa Claus.!!! Thank you Dear Lady

persiphone 12-24-2011 09:40 AM

~using my child as a pawn to try to manipulate me in some way. even my own child sees through this.

~abuse of any kind whether it be verbal, emotional, or physical.

~giant egos. PASS.

girl_dee 12-24-2011 10:04 AM

No alcohol

Goals in life

Self sufficient

kittygrrl 12-24-2011 05:09 PM

I think three (really wanted to say five) is healthy (with some things being givens) because the more "I have to have this" it takes the less open we are to what life has to offer..life isn't perfect and we aren't either, thats ok, in life there has to be sweet and bitter..but balance is what we are seeking..(imo)

JAGG 01-03-2012 07:52 AM

Integrity
Intelligent
Energetic/ Fit

ruffryder 01-03-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butterbean (Post 490383)
1. My toaster strudel is mine.

2. My toaster strudel is mine.

3. My toaster strudel is mine.


Some things are sacred.

This reminds me of the subway commercial. He he.

kittygrrl 01-03-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffryder (Post 497166)
This reminds me of the subway commercial. He he.

(in a fix) toaster strudel rules :byebye:

1QuirkyKiwi 01-03-2012 12:44 PM

I’m adding….

Annunciation
Pronunciations
Sentence formation

This my seem like the pot calling the kettle black, considering my accent may be seen as a bastardisation of the English language in terms of pronunciation of the words…. There is no letter E and our I’s are lonely without the O, unless it morphs into a U when the O is not needed in the word ….really we only use the vowels A, O and U.

….OK! I admit that when I’ve said some things, I’ve been given the “WT….?” Look. A classic example is when I’ve arranged to meet a date and I’ve said: “Us sucks, good for you?” (Translated as: “Is six, good for you?”) …. And at the restaurant, I’ve ordered: “Munner stroney, followed by Fitter Cheney with Oluves and Ever Cardeau.” (Translated as: “Minestrone and Fettuccine with Olives and avocado)

I don’t expect, and I’m not looking for the perfect linguist to have conversations with, yet, I’d like to be able to at least stand a decent chance of understanding what my date says! It’s cringe-worthy when I can’t tell if it’s a new dialect of British English and I’m too embarrassed to ask, AGAIN! Although, I’m growing quite fond of the east London accent that sounds like a love child of Alan Rickman and Michael Caine, lol!



VintageFemme 01-03-2012 01:11 PM

Absolutely Non-Negotiable
 
  • honesty
  • loyalty
  • strength [heart, soul & spirit]
you would think these are all a given in any relationship but they are in fact quite rare. even the smallest of white lies and betrayals are commonplace in most relationships and finding true strength of heart, is probably the hardest and yet most important trait in a relationship for me.

foxyshaman 01-03-2012 01:23 PM

First and foremost a sense of humor; cause I am kick ass funny and if you don't laugh I will be sad...
interest in tantra or sacred sex - wham bams - need not apply
deeply spiritual - I will accept yours if you accept mine

Apocalipstic 01-03-2012 02:26 PM

no birds as pets

no snakes in the house

must love cats and dogs and allow them to sleep in the bed

:glasses:

OS Butch 01-03-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic (Post 497357)
no birds as pets

no snakes in the house

must love cats and dogs and allow them to sleep in the bed

:glasses:

Dang! Another deal breaker! No birds or snakes, love dogs and cats. I have a Boxer, but he has his own bed. ;)

Novelafemme 01-03-2012 02:51 PM

1. respect and understanding for and of my daughters. they come first.

2. a healthy relationship with food. it's a big part of my life but not the center of it.

3. loves to laugh.....at me and with me. :) especially about farting, pooping, and everything bathroom oriented. :passinggas:

Gráinne 01-03-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QuirkyKiwi (Post 497320)
I’m adding….

Annunciation
Pronunciations
Sentence formation

This my seem like the pot calling the kettle black, considering my accent may be seen as a bastardisation of the English language in terms of pronunciation of the words…. There is no letter E and our I’s are lonely without the O, unless it morphs into a U when the O is not needed in the word ….really we only use the vowels A, O and U.

….OK! I admit that when I’ve said some things, I’ve been given the “WT….?” Look. A classic example is when I’ve arranged to meet a date and I’ve said: “Us sucks, good for you?” (Translated as: “Is six, good for you?”) …. And at the restaurant, I’ve ordered: “Munner stroney, followed by Fitter Cheney with Oluves and Ever Cardeau.” (Translated as: “Minestrone and Fettuccine with Olives and avocado)

I don’t expect, and I’m not looking for the perfect linguist to have conversations with, yet, I’d like to be able to at least stand a decent chance of understanding what my date says! It’s cringe-worthy when I can’t tell if it’s a new dialect of British English and I’m too embarrassed to ask, AGAIN! Although, I’m growing quite fond of the east London accent that sounds like a love child of Alan Rickman and Michael Caine, lol!



I take it no one who sounds like Eliza Doolittle need apply, either ;).

I finally learned not to try to guess where someone is from. Aussies/Kiwis don't appreciate my saying "Are you British"? Oops. I myself sound like Scarlett O'Hara from Milwaukee.

*ahem* As for me:

1. No undealt with addictions (and if recovering, it's more than one year)

2. No rage issues. No abuse or disrespect.

3. Responsible.

Slowpurr 01-03-2012 04:01 PM

I had some difficulty distinguishing between deal breakers and desires. Anyone reading this, I assume, is a member here and therefore knows how important both sexual preference and sexual orientation are so I eliminated them from my list.

I could not be with someone who is not;

Honest:not the brutal kind

Compassionate: not just to those with the acceptable diseases, behaviors or life problems, to everyone.

a Nonsmoker

This is the quintessential speed dating question.
I know someone who will be prepared because she reads the dynamic posts on the bfp.

1QuirkyKiwi 01-03-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guihong (Post 497375)
I take it no one who sounds like Eliza Doolittle need apply, either ;).

I finally learned not to try to guess where someone is from. Aussies/Kiwis don't appreciate my saying "Are you British"? Oops. I myself sound like Scarlett O'Hara from Milwaukee.

*ahem* As for me:

1. No undealt with addictions (and if recovering, it's more than one year)

2. No rage issues. No abuse or disrespect.

3. Responsible.

Err….no! We don’t appreciate being called British (no offence to the British), although, I can’t think why we get mistaken for the British….we Kiwis sound like we have rocks rolling around in our mouths when we talk! :| LOL! When I was in the U.S I was often told that I sounded ‘lovely’…. I’m sure it was just politeness, lol! :)

I’ve been mistaken for South African a lot over here! :blink: ….I love the melodic French, Italian and Scandinavian cadences, also, the Louisiana and east coast accents. *Swoons*

ROFL! Eliza Doolittle comes under the east London accent as the love child of Alan Rickman and Michael Caine, lol! ….My attempts at doing a Cockney accent are somewhat left to be desired….my Kiwi accent creeps through and I sound like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins, only with a cold! LOL! :|

Scarlett O’Hara with a Milwaukee accent, eh? That sounds interesting! :)



Jett 01-03-2012 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=Gemme;490285]My friend, if there are many out there who think this way, I am doomed. It's the curse of the Gemini to feel everything a different way at different times. It's the built in flibbertygibbet in us.

:princess:
[quote]


Lmao@ "flibbertygibbet"... (and I know what you mean- I think that's dif than what I was thinking so no worries lol ;) )

spritzerJ 01-03-2012 05:42 PM

subject to change with notice...
 
So three non-negotiables in a relationship (of the this is serious type)...

1. Have a deep understanding of what it means to be a parent and a clearly choose to be in a relationship with someone that is a parent. This includes loving the kiddo, me, sharing a common perspective about how I parent, respecting how I parent. And pretty much be over your need to sleep in for a while.

2. Possess the capacity for forgiveness. For yourself, others, etc. I will endeavor to make it right, but I won't get it right the first time always. Forgiveness includes openness for me.

3. Passion... for your goals, for "us", what you want, what we are defining together, sex. Passion can ebb and flow but underlying there is a desire to be on life's journey.

1QuirkyKiwi 01-03-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenna8987 (Post 497443)
So three non-negotiables in a relationship (of the this is serious type)...

1. Have a deep understanding of what it means to be a parent and a clearly choose to be in a relationship with someone that is a parent. This includes loving the kiddo, me, sharing a common perspective about how I parent, respecting how I parent. And pretty much be over your need to sleep in for a while.

2. Possess the capacity for forgiveness. For yourself, others, etc. I will endeavor to make it right, but I won't get it right the first time always. Forgiveness includes openness for me.

3. Passion... for your goals, for "us", what you want, what we are defining together, sex. Passion can ebb and flow but underlying there is a desire to be on life's journey.

My Maori Grandmother always told me that forgiveness was one way to respect yourself and others for making mistakes in life and learning about yourselves and the world around us. Not forgiving was like saying you cannot make mistakes and must always attain to be perfect.

Soft*Silver 01-03-2012 06:36 PM

handsome ears

must have a bookcase filled with books

must enjoy indoor animals

DapperButch 01-03-2012 08:38 PM

Miss Tia you are up to 9!!! I am calling foul!

:readrules: :police: :tease:

Sassy 01-03-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy (Post 489283)
I have one non-negotiable.... Spirituality. You must be open-minded, open-hearted and interested in alternative faiths and spiritual practices at least to the point of being willing to discuss/debate philosophical differences and participate in rituals, etc. on special occasions. :praying:

And then one solid, undeniable truth... I'm a Sagittarius. The wild wanderings -- verbal, mental, emotional, physical, sensual and metaphysical -- of a Jupiter's child can be tiring. If you have days where you don't have the energy to get off the couch, then you do not have the energy for me. ;)

After entirely too much thought on this subject lately, I have to amend/add something:
Health conscious.
Willing to prepare, or at least eat, healthy food. Not bring junk food in the home. Take walks, ride bikes, visit the gym, etc. ... good for me in more than just the dinner-and-a-movie kind of way.

JAGG 01-03-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss_Tia (Post 497476)
handsome ears

must have a bookcase filled with books

must enjoy indoor animals

handsome ears. hahahah Okay.


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