I would actually love for amandatheartist to come over here and start a thread on barefoot running. Do you think she would come over to this site steph? She's really open and friendly and inquisitive like you. I bet she would make a lot of friends and learn a lot too, since it sounds like both if your experiences with butch femme seem really limited!

I did. I asked several. Never got an answer. It's unusual on this site for people to ask questions/start threads without explaining and sharing more. I did ask before I stirred the pot some. I don't question her identity. Don't care. But the stepped on sensitivities, yeah, I expect her to hear back about that. We all did when we started here.

Until the recent threatened flounces, I didn't have a clear sense of the level of maturity we were dealing with. Now I do. And I won't take it all as seriously. But I expect that she, like anyone, will get stood on when she doesn't pay attention. And honestly, this bright young woman can not claim that she is paying close attention to what is going on around here -- in spite of her apparent curiosity.

Perhaps there is more validity to yotlyolqualli's line of thinking than I had thought.

Perhaps it really doesn't matter if what you write is the truth or not. You aren't directly hurting or influencing me!

I guess you rub the part of me that likes specific answers when I ask what I consider to be a direct question - the wrong way. And I don't feel I received an answer.

Oh well. :)

As far as binding goes; I tried a compression shirt on once and I felt like I was being squeezed by a boa constrictor. I nearly had a panic attack!! :blink:

I'm off to class. Be well!!

But, do we really know if she has an MIT background or just going by what she tells us?

I am always wary of someone that asks so many questions and is somewhat evasive in giving their own answers to questions others give back.

I shall just kick back and continue to read as I ponder more over the person.

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I don't know if she has a degree, went to MIT, has a girlfriend named Amanda, plays for The Militia, has a car, dog or life.

I know she claims to have a lot of the above things, I can't disprove it. I am a bit disconcerted that these things are being questioned yet.... yet when a new Daddy/Dom/Top/Master rolls into town they're NOT.

I'd be more alarmed with the above than a 20 something MIT graduate talking about butch stuff.

If she explained why she doesn't bind in another thread it would be nice to read that.........would have been entirely logical to start the thread with that post....and I would think logic would be an innate trait in a brain of MIT caliber..

I am always suspicious of anyone who asks tons of questions, asks folks to share and will NOT give of herself or answer direct or clarification questions.

The flouncy part just made me laugh....I was wondering WHEN it would happen....

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This might be obvious but no one is forcing anyone to answer her questions!

One thing I really like about the Planet, regardless if anyone is confrontive of a new person or pins them down for an answer or not; if they are not legitimate, sooner or later, they depart as mysteriously as they appeared!

I have seen it happen many time during my short tenure here.

Just say no ( thanks Mrs. B) and move on to the next thread, if you do not want to answer or if it does not feel right.

If someone is legitimate, hopefully, they will not feel too beat up and will stick around.

I used to ask a lot of questions about trans folks. Not because I was a troll but because I genuinely did not know. As we say in nursing: I had a knowlege deficit!

It was not transphobia but I sure was batted about for a bit (figuritively) and I almost left and thought about not returning.

I am glad that I did because I did receive the education that I so sorely needed.

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I think what pisses people off is the vague untruths and that Steph doesn't engage when asked a question unless she wants to.

She has that right, she isn't causing harm and unless she's passive aggressively directing something at someone,and they call her out then she can't. Until then she can continue on her merry way having the choice to engage with whomever she pleases.

Like I said earlier, if she triggers you (general) don't engage, it's that simple!

i think this stuff - in purple - about you, without the anger/hackles part. i think it about Martina, Aishah and Lady Snow and Princessbelle. serious. you all bend my brain in ways no complacent brain willingly bends. ok sometimes Martina makes my face go all... O.o ...but i'm still sincerely grateful that she beats up my ignorance from time to time. same is true for the other formidable women i've mentioned, you included. if someone wasnt cracking open my limited perspective by being real with their opinions and generously sharing their experiences i'd be worse for the loss. i've also yet to see any of you not be willing to expound on your thoughts, explain where there's confusion, apologize with sincerity if something comes out wrong or say 'i dont know' when information or knowledge wasnt available to you. none of you avoids the hard work -that i've ever observed- and it's pretty rare that you let shit slide when it shouldnt slide. if i have one beef with Steph it's really just one of preference. i like questions and answers to be a 2 way street. i dont see a lot of that happening. with that said, i agree. who cares if she's real or a shared hallucination? i'm not being harmed. i dont like being lied to but i'm not a perfect person either. i told a lie or two when i was a much younger person. not saying Steph is lying. just not interested in seeing yet another thread deteriorate into another 'is she or isnt she' debate. if Steph is BFPs newest agent provacateur then becoming divisive over her threads and posts simply gives her what she came for. i discovered there's an ignore option for the people who offend me deeply.

as for the subject matter:
i've known butches who bind and butches who dont. i think the OP question should have been "who binds and why or why not?" binding is no more a butch province than wearing a bra is a femme one. hell, i used to think that i was 'binding' any time my bra was too small! :cracked:

i don't feel we have a right to demand anyone to divulge information. She is evasive no doubt but who cares? It's up to us whether or not we post in threads. She is very curious for sure, and went about gaining knowledge by starting threads.

i love the critical thinking threads no matter who starts them. What i don't like is when certain threads seem to divide us.

i'd just like to know whether we are part of a research project or not and if so, i sure hope it benefits our community!

See these were my questions and concerns from the beginning of this thread... and never got answered. Well, at least the research question. As for the division of community, this is furstrating to me... but this is not Steph's fault that the community at-large has inner issues communicating over hot topics.

It's a learning experience... and learn I have.

well spoken. and ditto about the learning experience.

This has gotten interesting...

I am not butch.
I don't bind...
but I do own a Spanx tank top smooth out the bumps item.

And I love it. It is like a hug all day. And some days I need an all day hug. I doubt it is secure as a compression top.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the thread topics themselves or the inconsistencies that come with the OP. Her not me.

I do take a step back from my community when people take threads like this and create the opportunity/scenario to disrespect other peoples ID's or ways of doing things. It doesn't matter what ID they are poo pooing or what activity it might be, they may not be my ID or my activity, but I am sure somebody here that I care about is reading it and feeling pretty shitty about it and that is something to be concerned about.

Going organic! Wait....not the right thread!
 

You said you are 6'1 and weigh 225. Unless you are inherently an A or B cup, being that large of a woman , I sincerely doubt your cup size could be that small to begin with or prove me wrong (because I was one of those who fell asleep in biology class). Are you taking any anabolic steroids or testosterone? Because even for most professional female bodybuilders they still have some breast fat, and have to dehydrate themselves for up to three weeks to get their breast size down to looking like all pec muscle just to take pics. And when they rehydrate, their breast size increases. So my question is, "how do you maintain continuous pec muscle, without natural breast fat if you are not on T or roids?"

It was pointed out to me that MIT did explain why she did not bind. I would like more information because the above statement does not make sense to me.

And...

MIT is not the only person on this web site that makes me feel suspicious....she is not special in that way.....:sunglass:


Oh and no I do not bind nor have I had a bra on in probably 40 years except a sports bra for swimming. I don't really see a reason to bind and there are several reasons not to bind. If I had DDD ta-ta's I might feel differently, maybe but I doubt it......

I like my ta-tas just fine.......I know plenty o femmes who like a little butch cleavage.....that white shirt with the top 3 buttons undone (and the boots and levis of course.....)

For what it's worth, when I lost 150 pounds and worked out 3 hours a day, 7 days a week, I went from a DDD cup to a small B cup. So it is entirely possible to go from being quite busty to rather small-breasted if you work out.

I totally agree! I lost over 60lbs and my boobs did not go away; they remained the same size.

Zimmeh

Why is it unanswerable to you? Or is that unanswerable too? :|

Heads up..Don't mention anything from a PM in the threads. :goodluck:

Zimmeh

Right. This seems to be more of a thread question for trans if Steph is looking for why people bind, with what, etc.. Once again confused by a thread and what the OP is looking for exactly in an answer or just if she wants to discuss butches binding in general which I would probably say there would not be much info. there. However some butches mentioned that they do and some do so for other reasons than just binding, some for medical, etc.. It has already been mentioned that alot of butches identify as female and that includes breasts, and embracing their female parts so there would really be no reason to bind other than the reasons already mentioned here.

ahhh I don't think you're that new steph. Afterall you've posted more than some that have been members for years and started threads some haven't even. . .and I think you have been receiving the benefit of the doubt here.

As for the binding, I have and I do sometimes but I ID as trans. Not sure what exactly you want to know about binding. My preference is a compression muscle shirt. I feel I don't always need to bind and most times I don't. Do you also want to know if we "pass" without binding or binding because I do either way and most times not binding.

Ummmm I lost over 200 pounds and I went from a DD to an ......... well... I wear a B because I REFUSE to go to an A cup... but it would be doable.

I've also known very tall women, who have very slim hips and are very nearly flat chested and ummm no.. they don't take T and they don't lift weights.

Every human body is different and so is every human experience. No two people experience the exact same thing in the excact same ways.

When some people are in extreme pain, the only IV med that will work is morphine. It's a powerful drug! It's takes away the pain, every time. Right?

Wrong, morphine doesn't do a damned thing for me. In fact, oral vicodan will take care of the pain for me, MUCH better than morphine ever could!

Pain, trauma or stress raises blood pressure, right?

Not for me. Stress, pain and or trauma will cause my blood pressure to lower into dangerous numbers, even if I am NOT bleeding internally lol


No two bodies are exactly the same. What exercise does for one person, may not do the same for the next.

Besides, why do these threads ALWAYS devolve into what the OP looks like?

I also was offended by the insinuation that the OP was on steroids.

WTF? What does that have to do with the subject of the thread? Seriously.

I mentioned it in an effort to illustrate that I had reached out to Steph privately. I don't have any other means of contacting her privately. Duly noted.

Well, there is my telepathic ability, but that's for another thread! ;)

Anya, (on bended knee) will you marry me?

Novela, the last time I checked, you were already married and I don't think that Katy would like bigamy one little bit!

:)

hehehehehehehehe :)

i was just teasing

:)

Hey Folks-

I just wanted to give a quick update to the community in regards to "StephfromMIT".

We have permanently banned that user.

That user was using a fictitious identity and appeared to have several identities across the internet. Most everything they posted about themselves was not only a lie, but appears to have been designed to integrate themselves into this community with as much familiarity as possible.

Unfortunately, this is the Internet and there are going to be people out there who do these things for entertainment or out of boredom. Sometimes it's even because the person wants to "try on" a different identity to see how it feels.

The one positive from this is that we have several interesting threads that we can continue discussions in and I hope that is exactly what we do.

Much appreciation to you all. Now let's get back to discussing the world!

Thanks,
Admin

Well, I was sure fooled. Makes sense though. God, that flouncing really is manipulative, isn't it?

I am so not feeling bad re any future flouncing on anybody's part.

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Well, the good thing is we tried, we tried and gave them the benefit of the doubt.

At least we can truly say we are a welcoming community:vigil:

Sometime back I was on a site where the same thing was happening. A lot of discussions being started by one individual, targeting ftms & the OP never really got involved in the responses. I eventually was privated & asked if I would be part of a study; disclosing basically my entire life experiences, supposedly for a thesis. When I asked for some sort of validation & guarantee of anomitity (sp) ( being anonymous) I was informed all I would see is a release form. I politely declined & found out quite a few of us had been contacted.
You never really know who is behind the screen or what their agenda is.

My apologies. I was typing & did not see this before posting.

I think it is really healthy to let this be a reminder of several things:

1. There are going to be newbies here who do have a lot of questions and we don't always need to treat them with suspicion. Sometimes they just really want to know what they are asking.

2. Other times, we are going to have really unhealthy individuals in our midst who get off on toying with people and we should be aware of this possibility when devoting time to responding to them.

3. We'll do the best we can at the upper level safety-wise but your personal safety level is up to you. Some folks want to know who they're talking to when posting and some folks don't care as long as they are heard. Either scenario is ok! But please consider that you aren't any more "unsafe" posting on this community than you are on Facebook or a random AOL wall. (meaning, there are strange fuckers everywhere!)

4. It is not healthy to hyper focus on paranoid scenarios of someone here to slurp up our knowledge but it is *very* healthy to decide as an adult what you are comfortable sharing.

In short, your ability to create your own experience is very empowering if you let it be so! Create a positive experience by focusing on the idea that you might be saying something that will help someone who is really sincere out there rather than the possible troll who asked. Or don't respond. It's your choice where you put your energy!

Again, we do appreciate the folks who stepped up to offer their thoughts on this scenario!

Appreciate you all, good people!

and just to think...
 

I logged on today looking for a thread entitled.....

"Shopping for bras"

or

"Big Breasted Butches and Bras"

or

"Shopping for bras before the reunion? Anyone? Bueller?"

Alternatively titled "How to induce a migraine"

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I see a poll and an icon in my future....

I'm confused as to why StephMIT is logged on right now and reading threads?