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Electrocell 11-20-2014 09:13 AM

Portrait of an INFP - Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
(Introverted Feeling with Extraverted Intuition)

The Idealist



As an INFP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your personal value system. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.

INFPs, more than other iNtuitive Feeling types, are focused on making the world a better place for people. Their primary goal is to find out their meaning in life. What is their purpose? How can they best serve humanity in their lives? They are idealists and perfectionists, who drive themselves hard in their quest for achieving the goals they have identified for themselves

INFPs are highly intuitive about people. They rely heavily on their intuitions to guide them, and use their discoveries to constantly search for value in life. They are on a continuous mission to find the truth and meaning underlying things. Every encounter and every piece of knowledge gained gets sifted through the INFP's value system, and is evaluated to see if it has any potential to help the INFP define or refine their own path in life. The goal at the end of the path is always the same - the INFP is driven to help people and make the world a better place.

Generally thoughtful and considerate, INFPs are good listeners and put people at ease. Although they may be reserved in expressing emotion, they have a very deep well of caring and are genuinely interested in understanding people. This sincerity is sensed by others, making the INFP a valued friend and confidante. An INFP can be quite warm with people he or she knows well.

INFPs do not like conflict, and go to great lengths to avoid it. If they must face it, they will always approach it from the perspective of their feelings. In conflict situations, INFPs place little importance on who is right and who is wrong. They focus on the way that the conflict makes them feel, and indeed don't really care whether or not they're right. They don't want to feel badly. This trait sometimes makes them appear irrational and illogical in conflict situations. On the other hand, INFPs make very good mediators, and are typically good at solving other people's conflicts, because they intuitively understand people's perspectives and feelings, and genuinely want to help them.

INFPs are flexible and laid-back, until one of their values is violated. In the face of their value system being threatened, INFPs can become aggressive defenders, fighting passionately for their cause. When an INFP has adopted a project or job which they're interested in, it usually becomes a "cause" for them. Although they are not detail-oriented individuals, they will cover every possible detail with determination and vigor when working for their "cause".

When it comes to the mundane details of life maintenance, INFPs are typically completely unaware of such things. They might go for long periods without noticing a stain on the carpet, but carefully and meticulously brush a speck of dust off of their project booklet.

INFPs do not like to deal with hard facts and logic. Their focus on their feelings and the Human Condition makes it difficult for them to deal with impersonal judgment. They don't understand or believe in the validity of impersonal judgment, which makes them naturally rather ineffective at using it. Most INFPs will avoid impersonal analysis, although some have developed this ability and are able to be quite logical. Under stress, it's not uncommon for INFPs to mis-use hard logic in the heat of anger, throwing out fact after (often inaccurate) fact in an emotional outburst.

INFPs have very high standards and are perfectionists. Consequently, they are usually hard on themselves, and don't give themselves enough credit. INFPs may have problems working on a project in a group, because their standards are likely to be higher than other members' of the group. In group situations, they may have a "control" problem. The INFP needs to work on balancing their high ideals with the requirements of every day living. Without resolving this conflict, they will never be happy with themselves, and they may become confused and paralyzed about what to do with their lives.

INFPs are usually talented writers. They may be awkard and uncomfortable with expressing themselves verbally, but have a wonderful ability to define and express what they're feeling on paper. INFPs also appear frequently in social service professions, such as counselling or teaching. They are at their best in situations where they're working towards the public good, and in which they don't need to use hard logic.

INFPs who function in their well-developed sides can accomplish great and wonderful things, which they will rarely give themselves credit for. Some of the great, humanistic catalysts in the world have been INFPs.




Jungian functional preference ordering:

Dominant: Introverted Feeling
Auxiliary: Extraverted Intuition
Tertiary: Introverted Sensing
Inferior: Extraverted Thinking

SleepyButch 11-20-2014 07:26 PM

I forgot and was also reminded that I still had not disclosed my test results. Then I forgot what the my specific personality type is. Soooo.. here I am to finish what I started.


I'm an ISTJ. So let's see what that means....

ISTJ - The Duty Fulfiller

Serious and quiet, interested in security and peaceful living. Extremely thorough, responsible, and dependable. Well-developed powers of concentration. Usually interested in supporting and promoting traditions and establishments. Well-organized and hard working, they work steadily towards identified goals. They can usually accomplish any task once they have set their mind to it.

ISTJ Strengths


• Honor their commitments
• Take their relationship roles very seriously
• Usually able to communicate what's on their minds with precision
• Good listeners
• Extremely good (albeit conservative) with money
• Able to take constructive criticism well
• Able to tolerate conflict situations without emotional upheaval
• Able to dole out punishment or criticism when called for



I would agree with most of this above. Makes me look pretty desireable doesn't it? Well until you see this part:

ISTJ Weaknesses


• Tendency to believe that they're always right
• Tendency to get involved in "win-lose" conversations
• Not naturally in-tune with what others are feeling
• Their value for structure may seem rigid to others
• Not likely to give enough praise or affirmation to their loved ones


I don't agree with some of this.. like... I'm not always right.. unless I am right... which I cannot help if it's all the time! I think I'm pretty intuitive when it comes to other's feelings. I used to be one who didn't give enough praise and affirmation but I try to make it a point now in my relationships to do so because it's important.

What else.. let's see....

ISTJs are committed, loyal partners, who will put forth tremendous amounts of effort into making their relationships work. Once they have made a commitment to a relationship, they will stick with it until the end. .

Sexually, the ISTJ is likely to approach intimacy from a physical perspective, rather than as a means of expressing love and affection. They usually have a problem expressing their deepest feelings, even though they may be very strongly felt. They will expect sex on a relatively scheduled basis, and are likely to honor traditions regarding gender role-playing. Male ISTJs will assert their perspective on their partners, while female ISTJs will tend to follow along with what their male counterparts want (although they will be uncomfortable with anything extremely out of the traditional norm).

The ISTJ's natural partner is the ESFP, or the ESTP. I don't necessarily agree with this either. I could find an ESFP or ESTP that didn't understand the I part of my equation and that is a means for disaster in my book. I cannot have someone who wants to force me into situations in which I am not comfortable and I've had it happen too many times.

Anyway, interesting to say the least. I was on the cusp of S and N but since it leaned slightly towards the S side of things, I went with it.

JoSchmooze 11-21-2014 06:29 PM



I'm an ESTJ.....the supervisor....
Of course.....


Tuff Stuff 01-08-2016 10:35 PM

I Fooled Around and Fell In Love...
 
:married:

But just for kicks I took the test..wait for it..wait for it..this is me.

INTJ...The Scientists

(Introversion)
(Intruition)
(Thinking)
(Judging)

Now what?

TL1 01-08-2016 11:30 PM

Took this type of test a while back and the results were different. But I took my time and answered best I could and I think for the most part it's accurate. Couple things I don't agree with but pretty damn close....

ISFP

Angeltoes 01-09-2016 01:17 AM

I'm pretty much a classic INFJ but more introverted than most. INFJs are known as counselors or advocates because they like to advocate for people and causes. They're idealistic dreamers, but also capable of putting their ideals into action. They love helping and being of service. It's supposedly a very rare type like Hershel from the Walking Dead. :)

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Lecheloco 01-09-2016 05:28 AM

ENTP - Extraverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving
(Extraverted Intuition with Introverted Thinking)

The Visionary

Clever" is the word that perhaps describes ENTPs best. The professor who juggles half a dozen ideas for research papers and grant proposals in his mind while giving a highly entertaining lecture on an abstruse subject is a classic example of the type. So is the stand-up comedian whose lampoons are both funny and incisively accurate.

ENTPs are usually verbally as well as cerebrally quick, and generally love to argue--both for its own sake, and to show off their debating skills. ENTPs tend to have a perverse sense of humor as well, and enjoy playing devil's advocate. This sometimes confuses, even angers, those who don't understand or accept the concept of argument as a sport.

ENTPs are as innovative and ingenious at problem-solving as they are at verbal gymnastics; on occasion, however, they manage to outsmart themselves. ENTPs can be prone to "sharp practice" – especially cutting corners without regard to the rules if it's expedient – or, their juggling acts may simply be so over-ambitious they collapse.

Both at work and at home, ENTPs are very fond of "toys" -- physical or intellectual, the more sophisticated the better. Once these have been "solved" or become too familiar, however, they’ll be replaced with new ones.

ENTPs are basically optimists, but in spite of this (perhaps because of it?), they can become petulant about small setbacks and inconveniences. (Major setbacks they regard as challenges, and tackle with determination.) ENTPs have little patience with those they consider wrongheaded or unintelligent, and show little restraint in demonstrating this. In general, however, they are genial, even charming, when not being harassed by life.

In terms of their relationships with others, ENTPs are capable of bonding very closely and suddenly with their loved ones. Some appear deceptively offhand with their nearest and dearest; others are so demonstrative that they succeed in shocking co-workers who've only seen their professional side. ENTPs are also quick to spot a kindred spirit, and good at acquiring friends of similar temperament and interests.

ENTPs may sometimes give the impression of being largely oblivious to the rest of humanity except as an audience: good, bad, or potential. In general this is unfair – but it can be difficult to get an ENTP’s attention when they’re not immediately aware of you, especially for an Introvert.

The best approach in communicating with an ENTP is to be straightforward. No games – they’ll win. No "pulling rank" – they’ll just want to put you in your place. No apologies – you’ll undermine yourself. Try "I need/want to talk to you."

Some Famous ENTPs:

Alexander the Great
Confederate General J. E. B. Stuart
Sir Walter Raleigh
Fictional:

Mercutio, from Romeo and Juliet
Horace Rumpole, from John Mortimer's Rumpole of the Bailey series
Dorothy L. Sayers's detective Lord Peter Wimsey

A Functional Analysis -- by Joe Butt

Extraverted iNtuition

ENTPs are nothing if not unique. Brave new associations flow freely from the unconscious into the world of the living. Making, discovering and developing connections between and among two or more of anything is virtually automatic. The product of intuition is merely an icon of process; ENTPs are in the business of change, improvement, experimentation.

The attraction Extraverted iNtuition has toward the real and physical amounts to a cosmic non sequitur: theory is drawn to practice. Such encounters are clearly puzzling. Both parties--the intuitor and the realist--are aware of a xenic quality in their meeting, with reactions ranging from recoil to reverie.

Introverted Thinking

Thinking is iNtuition's ready assistant, an embodiment of the sort of logic found in laws, boards and circuits. Thinking's job is to lend focus and direction to iNtuition's critical mass. The temporary habitations of changeling iNtuition are constructed of Boolean materials from Thinking's storehouse. Ultimately, Thinking is no match for iNtuition's prodigiousness. Systems lie in various states of disarray, fragmentary traces of Thinking's feverish attempts to shadow and undergird the leaps of the dominant function. One can only suppose that Thinking must continue to work during REM sleep pulling together iNtuition's brainchildren into integral wholes.

Extraverted Feeling

To the extent that Feeling is developed, ENTPs extravert Feeling judgment. As a result, it is not uncommon to find affability and bonhomie in members of this species. Tertiary functions are potentially utilitarian. Their limitations appear in their relative underdevelopment, diminished endurance, and vulnerability. ENTPs may harness Feeling's good will in areas such as sales, service, drama, humor and art. ENTP loyalty often runs high and can be hooked by those the ENTP counts as friends.

Introverted Sensing

Like a tail on the kite of iNtuition, Introverted Sensing counterweighs these beings drawn to nonconformity and anarchy. These shadowy sensory forms, so familiar to SJ types, serve as lodestones which many ENTPs employ Herculean measures to escape. "Question authority! (then do exactly what it tells you)" sums up the dilemma in which ENTPs may find themselves by attempting to best the tarbaby Sensing. Occasionally acknowledging awareness of norms and abnormality could, in theory, be potentially freeing.

Additionally, I've noticed that ENTPs have the need to have areas of expertise/excellence/uniqueness in which one is second to none. I've never beaten an ENTP at his/her own game--not in the final analysis. (e.g., just tonight, my neighbor who is recuperating from an illness received a call from an ENTP friend offering his special recipe for tea. The instructions required only the finest ingredients, a particular brand of orange juice, tea made with a ball--none of those horrid teabags--..., which will of course make the best tea of which he himself drinks 50 gallons each winter!)

A Few More Famous ENTPs
U.S. Presidents:
John Adams, 2nd US president.
[Adams appears to have been competing with
Thomas Jefferson to see who would live the
longest. ("Jefferson surv...")]
James A. Garfield (who could reportedly write Latin
with one hand and Greek with the other, simultaneously)
Rutherford B. Hayes
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
Thomas Edison
Lewis Carrol, author (Alice in Wonderland)
Julia Child
Suzanne Pleshette
George Carlin
Valerie Harper
John Candy
John Sununu
Dr. Bill Bass, forensic anthropologist
Weird Al Yankovick
Marilyn Vos Savant
Alfred Hitchcock
Tom Hanks
David Spade
Céline Dion
Matthew Perry, Chandler ("Friends")
Rachel Ray
Rodney Dangerfield

Fictional Characters:
"Q" (Star Trek--The Next Generation)
Shirley Feeney (Laverne and Shirley)
Bugs Bunny
Wile E. Coyote
Garfield the cat
Copyright © 2012 by Joe Butt and Marina Margaret Heiss

BullDog 01-09-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angeltoes (Post 1037590)
I'm pretty much a classic INFJ but more introverted than most. INFJs are known as counselors or advocates because they like to advocate for people and causes. They're idealistic dreamers, but also capable of putting their ideals into action. They love helping and being of service. It's supposedly a very rare type like Hershel from the Walking Dead. :)

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I am INFJ and so is my partner gotoseagrl. It really is amazing and works.
I used to test as INTJ. I think I've softened a bit, lol.

angelface 01-09-2016 11:35 AM

INFJ - a common trait on BFP :)
 
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Haha so true for me!

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kittygrrl 01-09-2016 11:54 AM

I'm INTP-The Thinkers

CherryWine 06-20-2018 09:22 PM

Bumping just because....

Any other INTPs out there besides kittygirl and myself? :)

DapperButch 06-20-2018 10:03 PM

ISTJ

When I first started taking these 20 years ago, I always got ESTJ. Since then, it has been a toss up between I and E. The STJ never changes. The J is on the lower end than it used to be. I think that is because I have become more flexible over time. I am less rigid, less "wound up tight", since transition.

ETA: I think that I would have to be with a Thinker over Feeler. I have a hard time when people don't make decisions based on hard data, or don't think "logically" when it comes to problem solving. It puts me over the edge. :seeingstars: I can be very pragmatic and struggle understanding someone who isn't. With that said, I wish I was less pragmatic and prefer a partner who is less pragmatic than me, in general.

imperfect_cupcake 06-21-2018 12:10 AM

when it comes to dating, I prefer to date what compliments me.

ENFP - gI get balanced by INFJ or INTJ very well. I have a HUUUUUUGE "P" like, off the scales "P" so those with a "J" tend to help me out.

I have shitloads of fun with the two above types - usually. There are people in any group that I don't get on with, of course. But I have always had the best fun/relationships with those and through my history a *large* percentage of them have been one or the other. And this has been my experience with them:


I love that I can really have stupid fun with those types because they get that "dark, intelligent, irreverent, piss taker" part of me when others see a "rainbow care bear that is grumpy pants. Poor grumpy oogums."

That doesn't mean they won't call me a care bear to piss me off at every opportunity -but someone who has the intelligence and interest to insult me with care and wit means they have to pay particular attention to me to get that far - and I like that. That's hot.

That's also why I will irritate them with little toe puppets on my feet acting out Swiss Family Robinson Loves My Little Pony when they are really, really fucking busy.

Because, it would really piss them off but also secretly tell them things.

I also know it would piss an INFJ off in a much different way than it would an INTJ (frankly it's more fun to piss an INTJ off. They are more fun with being pissed off)

INFJs are more fun with pissing *me* off.

But they are both fun at both. They are just weighed slightly better at one more than the other.

My INFJs tended to be a bit more Mudpuddly with being pissed off by a good solidly applied perry, whereas my INTJs got a bit of *~frisson~*.

when my INFJs have pissed me off it was more Fozzy Bear "oh I pissed off the Mrs! Waka waka!"
And the INTJ if they managed to sincerely piss me off is was met with more "WHAT? IT WAS ACADEMIC." *poke*? (you aren't seriously mad are you? I mean, I had a point...)

tantalizingfemme 06-21-2018 06:23 AM

I am an ISFJ - The Nurturer


So an ESTP or ESFP appears to be my ideal date. Not quite sure about that.

Wrang1er 06-21-2018 07:06 AM

I took this three times because I didn't think I fit the description. The result was the same every time. ISFP.

charley 06-21-2018 07:23 AM

Personality Type - Myers-Briggs
 
I took this test many years prior to deep meditation, was INTP then.

Mopsie 06-21-2018 07:45 AM

I've taken Myers Briggs in the past many times - I always come out INFP/J (Equally split between P & J). Also when I was younger I learned more towards E than I but have become more introverted as I've gotten older.

CherryWine 06-21-2018 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 1215813)
ISTJ

When I first started taking these 20 years ago, I always got ESTJ. Since then, it has been a toss up between I and E. The STJ never changes. The J is on the lower end than it used to be. I think that is because I have become more flexible over time. I am less rigid, less "wound up tight", since transition.

ETA: I think that I would have to be with a Thinker over Feeler. I have a hard time when people don't make decisions based on hard data, or don't think "logically" when it comes to problem solving. It puts me over the edge. :seeingstars: I can be very pragmatic and struggle understanding someone who isn't. With that said, I wish I was less pragmatic and prefer a partner who is less pragmatic than me, in general.

Everyone needs an ISTJ in their lives! My dad and my girlfriend are both ISTJs, and let me tell ya....you’ll never meet two more dependable people in your life. If they care about you, and you need them...they will be there. You can bet your bottom dollar.

They are also both very innovative/inventive and come off as rather serious while secretly having wicked senses of humor. (I don’t believe I’ve ever laughed so hard as when my gf started a conversation between my cat and my kitten using two separate voices that fit each of their little personalities perfectly. :lol2:)

I have found that, relationship-wise, I get along much better with thinkers over feelers, as well. I am very blunt and logical and value those same traits in others. That being said, most of my dearest friends are feelers. Go figure.

Greco 06-21-2018 10:32 AM

INFP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greco (Post 939696)

INFP

(f) Greco

INFP...still...Thanks for the bump CherryWine.

nanners 06-21-2018 11:06 AM

INFJ! That was interesting!

~ocean 06-21-2018 12:42 PM

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ESFJ / Caregiver

RebelDyke 06-21-2018 02:50 PM

ENFJ/protagonist

2qt 06-21-2018 03:33 PM

Interesting! Thanks for sharing this test...

When combined, that makes your personality type ISFP - The Artist

Portrait of an ISFP - Introverted Sensing Feeling Perceiving
(Introverted Feeling with Extraverted Sensing)
The Artist
As an ISFP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your value system. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in via your five sense in a literal, concrete fashion.

ISFPs live in the world of sensation possibilities. They are keenly in tune with the way things look, taste, sound, feel and smell. They have a strong aesthetic appreciation for art, and are likely to be artists in some form, because they are unusually gifted at creating and composing things which will strongly affect the senses. They have a strong set of values, which they strive to consistently meet in their lives. They need to feel as if they're living their lives in accordance with what they feel is right, and will rebel against anything which conflicts with that goal. They're likely to choose jobs and careers which allow them the freedom of working towards the realization of their value-oriented personal goals.

ISFPs tend to be quiet and reserved, and difficult to get to know well. They hold back their ideas and opinions except from those who they are closest to. They are likely to be kind, gentle and sensitive in their dealings with others. They are interested in contributing to people's sense of well-being and happiness, and will put a great deal of effort and energy into tasks which they believe in.

ISFPs have a strong affinity for aesthetics and beauty. They're likely to be animal lovers, and to have a true appreciation for the beauties of nature. They're original and independent, and need to have personal space. They value people who take the time to understand the ISFP, and who support the ISFP in pursuing their goals in their own, unique way. People who don't know them well may see their unique way of life as a sign of carefree light-heartedness, but the ISFP actually takes life very seriously, constantly gathering specific information and shifting it through their value systems, in search for clarification and underlying meaning.

ISFPs are action-oriented individuals. They are "doers", and are usually uncomfortable with theorizing concepts and ideas, unless they see a practical application. They learn best in a "hands-on" environment, and consequently may become easily bored with the traditional teaching methods, which emphasize abstract thinking. They do not like impersonal analysis, and are uncomfortable with the idea of making decisions based strictly on logic. Their strong value systems demand that decisions are evaluated against their subjective beliefs, rather than against some objective rules or laws.

ISFPs are extremely perceptive and aware of others. They constantly gather specific information about people, and seek to discover what it means. They are usually penetratingly accurate in their perceptions of others.

ISFPs are warm and sympathetic. They genuinely care about people, and are strongly service-oriented in their desire to please. They have an unusually deep well of caring for those who are close to them, and are likely to show their love through actions, rather than words.

ISFPs have no desire to lead or control others, just as they have no desire to be led or controlled by others. They need space and time alone to evaluate the circumstances of their life against their value system, and are likely to respect other people's needs for the same.

The ISFP is likely to not give themself enough credit for the things which they do extremely well. Their strong value systems can lead them to be intensely perfectionist, and cause them to judge themselves with unneccesary harshness.

The ISFP has many special gifts for the world, especially in the areas of creating artistic sensation, and selflessly serving others. Life is not likely to be extremely easy for the ISFP, because they take life so seriously, but they have the tools to make their lives and the lives of those close to them richly rewarding experiences.

Anastasia11 06-21-2018 04:55 PM

INFJ, the Advocate

Femmadian 06-21-2018 05:13 PM

ISTJs from an INFP perspective
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CherryWine (Post 1215847)
Everyone needs an ISTJ in their lives! My dad and my girlfriend are both ISTJs, and let me tell ya....you’ll never meet two more dependable people in your life. If they care about you, and you need them...they will be there. You can bet your bottom dollar.

They are also both very innovative/inventive and come off as rather serious while secretly having wicked senses of humor. (I don’t believe I’ve ever laughed so hard as when my gf started a conversation between my cat and my kitten using two separate voices that fit each of their little personalities perfectly. :lol2:)
<snip>

Couldn't agree more. And the humour thing is spot on. My main ISTJ does this all the time with the pets in the family and carries on entire conversations with and between them in character. You will split your sides! They're incredibly imaginative and hugely playful!

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So, I quite like ISTJs. I was partly raised by one (someone I look up to very much and have a lot of respect for) so I have a bit of a soft spot for them. I think they're also very misunderstood overall so I feel a bit protective of them in general, especially when they get painted as some sort of strict, stiff-upper-lip military type. Yes, they can be, but there's also a lot more to them than that.

In any kind of relationship with an ISTJ, as an INFP I know I'm probably not going to get all my emotional needs met by them (need a fellow NF for that) but ISTJs have a kind of quiet integrity and groundedness which I find very admirable. I think they're the most likely to be the knights of the roundtable out of all the types of the MBTI.


Some things I've observed (YMMV):
  • Extremely hard workers, with an incredible, near inexhaustible work ethic; tend to define themselves by their output and get their validation from having their work be appreciated by others (with particular attention paid to the sheer amount that they did). Will work themselves into the ground if not careful or if another type doesn't come in and tell them it's okay to rest or that what they did was not only "good enough" but exceeds their expectations.
  • Self sacrificing. See above. Often personally identifies with their role as the provider or worker bee, depending on context, and judges their life by how well they were able to fulfill these roles.
  • Very values driven. I know a lot of attention is paid to INFPs being the ultimate value-driven type, but I find that ISTJs are just as much, if not moreso. It's just that their values are different... less about political and social equity (though that's often a feature) but more about personal qualities, like integrity, honesty, and reliability. They're much more likely to judge you based on your actions they've observed than the conversations you've had (although they tend to, in my experience, have a memory like a steel trap when it comes to the latter and can often brood, so choose your words carefully!).
  • When it comes to charity or giving back, they just do it, often quietly. Tends to be spontaneous and emotion-driven (rather than intellectualizing concepts of fairness). They don't tend to talk about it with others or make a big fuss, and it tends to be in direct response to something they saw that affected them (ie - going out and buying groceries and Christmas toys for the neighbour's kid after finding out their parents were just laid off, rather than opening their checkbook for a large children's charity "just because"). Seeing need rather than being told of need works better for them.
  • Nothing is ever half-assed. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well, at a level that feels like the equivalent of someone else's 120%. ISTJs can also have a bit of a perfectionist streak to them.
  • When they love someone (romantic or otherwise), it has an almost childlike purity to it. It's a love without qualifications. They don't love often but when they do, it is pure and really endearing to see. Likewise, when they're crushing on someone, there's a straightforward, guileless quality that's paired with a personal bashfulness, almost like they're made uncomfortable by their own emotions (and sometimes just by the very presence of their crush). So cheek-pinching-ly cute! :p
  • A wicked, often oddball sense of humour. Usually swings between extremes of very dry or very goofy. To an F-type, it can sometimes come across as mean, overly teasing, or off-putting, especially online without the benefit of tone or body language or if you don't know their personality very well.
  • They actually have quite the soft underbelly, despite their reputation for being a bit of a hard ass. Every now and then, if you're lucky, they'll show it to you, usually when no one else is looking, and usually unprovoked. Blink and you'll miss it. When they're feeling particularly open or tired or their guard is down, they may even allow you to stroke it (metaphorically speaking), but like most cats, they'll usually only allow one or two belly rubs before promptly jumping out of your arms and trotting away (like nothing ever happened) to go catch the bug near the window... or something. :)
  • Very practical and pragmatic. Can be a bit of a freight train when they're on a mission and can sometimes run you over unintentionally, especially if you're an NF. Breaking down for them how their specific behaviours create certain feelings in you (and thereby trigger specific behaviours from you towards them) works wonders. They respond well to clear explanations of cause and effect, particularly with emotions. They nearly always mean to do well. They just need you to give them the knowledge they need in order to do well.
  • An almost knight-like sense of personal integrity. ISTJs value loyalty and sincerity and have a low threshold for bullshit (can tie into their sense of humour). On the flip side, they will often beat themselves up over past examples in their head of when they fell short of their own expectations or values.
  • Appreciate ritual and tradition, but it has to make sense and hold meaning for them. Otherwise, they can be pretty blunt expressing their disdain for it (and sometimes the people who engage in it).
  • The older/more mature ISTJs tend to have a kind of bewilderment at how an NF type goes through the world, but also a kind of admiration for it even if they can't quite personally understand it... and they nurture the protectiveness of a lion for the NF's in their lives who they feel may be being threatened, which is incredibly endearing and kind of an awesome thing to behold when it's out in full force.
  • They do have a high need to be right, or perhaps more accurately, a strong sense of their own rightness. Can be a bit of a pit bull about it. Quite sheepish when they know they were wrong. Apologies are also kind of sheepish and mostly hinted around without actually saying the words (you have to read between the lines with them on this one). Nervous chuckles while they admit that another path or person may have been "okay too" and no real eye contact... They appear very vulnerable when they make an apology. It seems to shake their self concept a bit when they've been proven to be wrong and so, whenever possible, a bit of kindness and gentleness goes a long way (in other words, don't rub their noses in it).
  • ISTJs have a sometimes annoying habit of giving a LOT of unsolicited advice when you're just trying to bond with them over something or emote at them about something. Or they'll give a lot of unasked for advice when they just THINK your life isn't going according to how they think it should go (which can come off as judgmental and arrogant in the moment). This ties in to their own certainty about their own rightness. It's mostly well intentioned but it can really backfire and they often take it personally when you don't follow their advice. ISTJs can sometimes view the fact that you're not rushing right out to "fix" things according to them as a personal failing on your part! (I'm not illogical or stupid or self-sabotaging, thankyouverymuch. We're just different. Grrr... ) They sometimes need to be reminded that it "takes all kinds." :)
  • Seem to express their love and affection (love language) via acts of service. Not sure if this just the ones I've been exposed to or if it's a type-specific thing. If, for example, you ask an ISTJ you're close to how to change your oil, they will gladly rise to the occasion, giving you a ten point instruction on how to do it, why you do it, what happens if you don't do it, all the different scenarios that you might need to know where you should do it, etc., and they will probably completely take over the whole process while they're explaining it, too (to make sure it's done right, of course!). After all is said and done and you think it's all over, you'll thank them and you'll both go back to doing whatever you were doing before, but the next time you go out to see your car, you will notice that it has also now been washed, your tires have been topped up, there is a new ice scraper and broom waiting for you in your trunk, and they secretly took your keys when you weren't watching to vacuum out the inside of your back seat. And also your gas tank is now on Full. :blink: True story! When they see that you're finally near your newly sparkling supercar, they'll come over and usually mention what they did in passing, almost shyly but trying to be all nonchalant about it, but also wanting to see that you received their love as they intended it. Quite vulnerable, actually. It's hard to not love someone like that! :stillheart:
  • Devoted. If you are one of their chosen few, when the going gets tough they will put you above themselves at their own personal detriment without even thinking twice about it. Often it's to the extreme. They need someone equally as strong and protective of *them* in their life to remind them that they don't always have to do that (and that sometimes, in fact, they shouldn't).
  • Fiercely loyal, especially if you've demonstrated values that they personally align with.
  • Reliable to a fault. Expects others to be as well.
  • ISTJs are usually quite proud people. And they want you to see them as someone to be proud of. Will usually be a bit shy if you compliment them on it, but will be secretly tickled pink that you think of them that way. :) They will hold onto your compliments for years.
  • Usually voracious readers. Like, read the Encyclopedia in the bathroom readers (again, true story). Gifts of something to read on a topic they like, whether it be books, newspapers, topical magazine subscriptions, or even documentaries, etc., are usually very well received.
  • They don't mention their past or their childhood very much, especially when they're just getting to know you, but seem to be extremely touched when you remember the things they did mention, especially if you can demonstrate it as a gift, like in a related act of service or something physical for them to have as a reminder that they're important to you. It might help to explain that one a bit... So, for example, years ago an ISTJ friend of mine related an offhand story about how he'd always had a special relationship with his Scottish grandfather with whom he shared a birthday and another friend chimed in that when ISTJ friend was a little kid, he would always try to be like said grandfather by wearing bowties and suspenders to school (awwww, the little nerd... :p). So when his birthday rolled around a few months later, I made sure to gift him two matching bowties, one for him and one for his grandfather, in their Scottish family tartan, with a card explaining the link. My normally pretty stoic ISTJ friend actually got a little choked up (though he would never admit it!) and he then wore it whenever I saw him for like a solid month afterwards, always with a sheepish, shy smile (ISTJs are very sheepish people... heh). They don't like to admit that they have their soft and squishy bits but they're often the softest and squishiest of them all! :cheesy:

We don't always see eye to eye on many things (okay, most things) and I think that any STJ is bound to have a lot of friction with an NFP, but I have a lot of respect for them as people and how they move through the world. It takes a good long while to get to know them but when you do, it is absolutely, 100% worth it. :)

Kätzchen 06-21-2018 05:14 PM

IST, plus P & J.
 
The past few times I took the Meyer's Briggs test, I seemed to always be an ISTP.



But I tested it again today, and it scored me as an ISTJ.

https://www.16personalities.com/istj-personality

I think in my case, IST is an consistent assessment. I think I fluctuate some between P and J....because both P and J are both consistent, with how I process life, all around.

Fancy 07-12-2018 10:54 AM

INTJ -A

Sometimes through the years the T and F have flipped, but “thinking” typically jumps ahead.

candy_coated_bitch 07-12-2018 01:13 PM

Still an INFP here! This has never changed every time I've taken the test. I have no idea what type my gf is, but it could be enlightening to know.

imperfect_cupcake 07-12-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch (Post 1218541)
Still an INFP here! This has never changed every time I've taken the test. I have no idea what type my gf is, but it could be enlightening to know.

"Although two well-developed individuals of any type can enjoy a healthy relationship, INFP's natural partner is the ENFJ, or the ESFJ.

INFP's dominant function of Introverted Feeling is best matched with a partner whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling.

The INFP/ENFJ combination is ideal, because it shares the Intuiting way of perceiving, but the INFP/ESFJ combination is also a good match."

Complimenting and balancing. It's not about the letter, it's about the function of the letter and how it's "stacked."

*I know this has all been debunked this system of classification. I do find *points* of it helpful. But its not bible of personality the way it was once thought.

**So see if she tests as above, could be interesting.

candy_coated_bitch 07-12-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperfect_cupcake (Post 1218549)
"Although two well-developed individuals of any type can enjoy a healthy relationship, INFP's natural partner is the ENFJ, or the ESFJ.

INFP's dominant function of Introverted Feeling is best matched with a partner whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling.

The INFP/ENFJ combination is ideal, because it shares the Intuiting way of perceiving, but the INFP/ESFJ combination is also a good match."

Complimenting and balancing. It's not about the letter, it's about the function of the letter and how it's "stacked."

*I know this has all been debunked this system of classification. I do find *points* of it helpful. But its not bible of personality the way it was once thought.

**So see if she tests as above, could be interesting.

She is definitely more extroverted than I and I think is also a feeler and not a thinker, so she could very well be either of those types. I am definitely going to make her take the test now so I can see what her type is!

I have found the system helpful in the past and think I have figured out the T/F part is most important to me. I have struggled partnering with thinkers in the past and have found they really do NOT get me and we struggle with how we process the world. I am very much an intuitive feeler and I have found thinkers often dismiss the way I process.

Gemme 07-12-2018 05:37 PM

Portrait of an ISFJ - Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
(Introverted Sensing with Extraverted Feeling)
The Nurturer

As an ISFJ, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you takes things in via your five senses in a literal, concrete fashion. Your secondary mode is external, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your personal value system.

ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.

ISFJs have a rich inner world that is not usually obvious to observers. They constantly take in information about people and situations that is personally important to them, and store it away. This tremendous store of information is usually startlingly accurate, because the ISFJ has an exceptional memory about things that are important to their value systems. It would not be uncommon for the ISFJ to remember a particular facial expression or conversation in precise detail years after the event occurred, if the situation made an impression on the ISFJ.

ISFJs have a very clear idea of the way things should be, which they strive to attain. They value security and kindness, and respect traditions and laws. They tend to believe that existing systems are there because they work. Therefore, they're not likely to buy into doing things in a new way, unless they're shown in a concrete way why its better than the established method.

ISFJs learn best by doing, rather than by reading about something in a book, or applying theory. For this reason, they are not likely to be found in fields which require a lot of conceptual analysis or theory. They value practical application. Traditional methods of higher education, which require a lot of theorizing and abstraction, are likely to be a chore for the ISFJ. The ISFJ learns a task best by being shown its practical application. Once the task is learned, and its practical importance is understood, the ISFJ will faithfully and tirelessly carry through the task to completion. The ISFJ is extremely dependable.

The ISFJ has an extremely well-developed sense of space, function, and aesthetic appeal. For that reason, they're likely to have beautifully furnished, functional homes. They make extremely good interior decorators. This special ability, combined with their sensitivity to other's feelings and desires, makes them very likely to be great gift-givers - finding the right gift which will be truly appreciated by the recipient.

More so than other types, ISFJs are extremely aware of their own internal feelings, as well as other people's feelings. They do not usually express their own feelings, keeping things inside. If they are negative feelings, they may build up inside the ISFJ until they turn into firm judgments against individuals which are difficult to unseed, once set. Many ISFJs learn to express themselves, and find outlets for their powerful emotions.

Just as the ISFJ is not likely to express their feelings, they are also not likely to let on that they know how others are feeling. However, they will speak up when they feel another individual really needs help, and in such cases they can truly help others become aware of their feelings.

The ISFJ feels a strong sense of responsibility and duty. They take their responsibilities very seriously, and can be counted on to follow through. For this reason, people naturally tend to rely on them. The ISFJ has a difficult time saying "no" when asked to do something, and may become over-burdened. In such cases, the ISFJ does not usually express their difficulties to others, because they intensely dislike conflict, and because they tend to place other people's needs over their own. The ISFJ needs to learn to identify, value, and express their own needs, if they wish to avoid becoming over-worked and taken for granted.

ISFJs need positive feedback from others. In the absence of positive feedback, or in the face of criticism, the ISFJ gets discouraged, and may even become depressed. When down on themselves or under great stress, the ISFJ begins to imagine all of the things that might go critically wrong in their life. They have strong feelings of inadequacy, and become convinced that "everything is all wrong", or "I can't do anything right".

The ISFJ is warm, generous, and dependable. They have many special gifts to offer, in their sensitivity to others, and their strong ability to keep things running smoothly. They need to remember to not be overly critical of themselves, and to give themselves some of the warmth and love which they freely dispense to others.

Most of it is pretty accurate but this part "ISFJs need positive feedback from others. In the absence of positive feedback, or in the face of criticism, the ISFJ gets discouraged, and may even become depressed. When down on themselves or under great stress, the ISFJ begins to imagine all of the things that might go critically wrong in their life. They have strong feelings of inadequacy, and become convinced that "everything is all wrong", or "I can't do anything right". actually sounds more like my coworker than me.

In personal relationships, I require feedback--positive or not--and get frustrated when there's no communication or there is dishonesty. Professionally, I like to know others see that I did a good job but I don't get butt hurt if I don't get that feedback so that part is inaccurate but most of it is pretty much on point. That and the fact that I do tend to speak my mind. I'm not one for keeping all my feelings to myself.

*glances at my posting herstory*

*whistles innocently*

charley 07-12-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 1218562)

*glances at my posting herstory*

*whistles innocently*

I enjoy reading all your posts :)

Laughing out loud... a lot, :| <--- look... I is clothed, laughs some more

Esme nha Maire 07-13-2018 02:33 AM

Hmmn.. this test reckons that I am INFP (-A/-T), Mediator. Whilst there's a fair bit of accuracy in the description given, it misses out on my love of logic and the sciences. I've long recognised the duality in my personality in that on the one hand, I like the rationality of the sciences, whilst on the other I am somewhat spiritual and very much like silliness (as anyone who's chatted much with me will know!). I need both in my life in order to stay sane. I've also become more spontaneous as I've got older and more self-confident, especially recently. Definitely a touch of the Logician in me as well...

WheatToast 09-12-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopsie (Post 1215846)
I've taken Myers Briggs in the past many times - I always come out INFP/J (Equally split between P & J). Also when I was younger I learned more towards E than I but have become more introverted as I've gotten older.

I've taken this damn test a dozen times, and I always forget what I was within 15 minutes. Last time I wrote it down so I could check later. I have no idea where I stored that Post It note.
But I live in Texas, so let's just say I am an E-I-E-I-O. :cigar2:

WheatToast 10-27-2018 08:21 PM

I found it. I am an ENFP.
Is that good?

TL1 10-27-2018 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WheatToast (Post 1229483)
I found it. I am an ENFP.
Is that good?

Oh no that’s horrible!!!!! (Kidding)

Lol I don’t think there’s a “good” or “bad”

cathexis 10-28-2018 05:47 AM

Couldn't have been a closer match. Read it out loud to my Partner, we both snickered through it. That is until we hit the part about not liking small talk when both of us burst out laughing.

Anyone who knows me, can attest that I HATE small talk.

Btw, am totally an "INTJ."

WheatToast 10-28-2018 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esme nha Maire (Post 1218580)
Hmmn.. this test reckons that I am INFP (-A/-T), Mediator. Whilst there's a fair bit of accuracy in the description given, it misses out on my love of logic and the sciences. I've long recognised the duality in my personality in that on the one hand, I like the rationality of the sciences, whilst on the other I am somewhat spiritual and very much like silliness (as anyone who's chatted much with me will know!). I need both in my life in order to stay sane. I've also become more spontaneous as I've got older and more self-confident, especially recently. Definitely a touch of the Logician in me as well...

Wow! You had me at "whilst." From an ENFP, but not that extroverted.

TL1 10-28-2018 04:28 PM

Well it’s been over two years since I last took it? So I did it again because I know I have been through some stuff and changed some since. And of course I got something different. This time answering as honestly as possible I got INTP. The part that says I am not good at meeting emotional needs of others in relationships I do not agree with and a few other things. But yes my brain is constantly going. Anyway, Yeah it’s what I got. :)

The Thinker

As an INTP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things rationally and logically. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.

INTPs live in the world of theoretical possibilities. They see everything in terms of how it could be improved, or what it could be turned into. They live primarily inside their own minds, having the ability to analyze difficult problems, identify patterns, and come up with logical explanations. They seek clarity in everything, and are therefore driven to build knowledge. They are the "absent-minded professors", who highly value intelligence and the ability to apply logic to theories to find solutions. They typically are so strongly driven to turn problems into logical explanations, that they live much of their lives within their own heads, and may not place as much importance or value on the external world. Their natural drive to turn theories into concrete understanding may turn into a feeling of personal responsibility to solve theoretical problems, and help society move towards a higher understanding.

INTPs value knowledge above all else. Their minds are constantly working to generate new theories, or to prove or disprove existing theories. They approach problems and theories with enthusiasm and skepticism, ignoring existing rules and opinions and defining their own approach to the resolution. They seek patterns and logical explanations for anything that interests them. They're usually extremely bright, and able to be objectively critical in their analysis. They love new ideas, and become very excited over abstractions and theories. They love to discuss these concepts with others. They may seem "dreamy" and distant to others, because they spend a lot of time inside their minds musing over theories. They hate to work on routine things - they would much prefer to build complex theoretical solutions, and leave the implementation of the system to others. They are intensely interested in theory, and will put forth tremendous amounts of time and energy into finding a solution to a problem with has piqued their interest.

INTPs do not like to lead or control people. They're very tolerant and flexible in most situations, unless one of their firmly held beliefs has been violated or challenged, in which case they may take a very rigid stance. The INTP is likely to be very shy when it comes to meeting new people. On the other hand, the INTP is very self-confident and gregarious around people they know well, or when discussing theories which they fully understand.

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don't understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions. For this reason, INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

The INTP may have a problem with self-aggrandizement and social rebellion, which will interfere with their creative potential. Since their Feeling side is their least developed trait, the INTP may have difficulty giving the warmth and support that is sometimes necessary in intimate relationships. If the INTP doesn't realize the value of attending to other people's feelings, he or she may become overly critical and sarcastic with others. If the INTP is not able to find a place for themself which supports the use of their strongest abilities, they may become generally negative and cynical. If the INTP has not developed their Sensing side sufficiently, they may become unaware of their environment, and exhibit weakness in performing maintenance-type tasks, such as bill-paying and dressing appropriately.

For the INTP, it is extremely important that ideas and facts are expressed correctly and succinctly. They are likely to express themselves in what they believe to be absolute truths. Sometimes, their well thought-out understanding of an idea is not easily understandable by others, but the INTP is not naturally likely to tailor the truth so as to explain it in an understandable way to others. The INTP may be prone to abandoning a project once they have figured it out, moving on to the next thing. It's important that the INTP place importance on expressing their developed theories in understandable ways. In the end, an amazing discovery means nothing if you are the only person who understands it.

The INTP is usually very independent, unconventional, and original. They are not likely to place much value on traditional goals such as popularity and security. They usually have complex characters, and may tend to be restless and temperamental. They are strongly ingenious, and have unconventional thought patterns which allows them to analyze ideas in new ways. Consequently, a lot of scientific breakthroughs in the world have been made by the INTP.

The INTP is at his best when he can work on his theories independently. When given an environment which supports his creative genius and possible eccentricity, the INTP can accomplish truly remarkable things. These are the pioneers of new thoughts in our society.


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