Dapperbutch
I just get my jackets one size up and tailor it down,harder to do with pants I gess.
Rockin

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I received my tie order (bow tie, regular tie and an ascot) from the site Jack recommended. Very happy with them! Thanks, Jack!

http://www.beautiesltd.com/?gclid=CN...Fdx05QodJDzrGQ

Was thinking about how I really do like 501's... even after all these years! Comfy casual for me. Yikes, my first pair (1960's) cost under $5!![/COLOR]
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Those bow ties are super-duper.

Well it depends. My day-to-day gear is usually jeans and a tee-shirt typically with some nerdy saying on it like my current favorites:

"Come to the Dark Side...we have cookies!"
or
98% Chimp
or
2+2=5 (For extremely large values of 2)
or (something my co-worker wore that I MUST have)
May the Mass times Acceleration be with you
(i.e. may the force be with you)

If I'm not wearing that I tend toward Dockers and polo shirts. When I'm going to 'step out' I like to wear a Brooks Brothers suit with a tie. :)

Cheers
Aj

I usually wear Unionbay jeans (a little big so my hips don't show), t-shirts or muscleshirts, Bates or Harley boots, and a leather jacket.

I want cookies....... yes, Brooks Brothers!

:scooter:

Dreadgeek,

After reading this post I did a google search and have ordered "98% Chimp" and "May the Mass times Acceleration be with you" - can't wait!

wear formal occasionally and casual more often but when its warm, just like to hang out in shorts - thats not underpants (im English) - short trousers - lol!

http://http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...king1/1100.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/manatca3.jpg

http://http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/P1010889.jpg

Sharp pics, Jaques!

So here's a bummer... I found the absolutely most comfy brand of tighty whity's ever and they have been discontinued. Jockey GO Sculpt low rise briefs. Most comfy EVAH! Still looking for them on line.. sighs..

Going crazy trying to find a white pique (worn with tails) style vest that has a back! I have the usual backless kind, but want one with a back! I did find a black wool one.... just know they exist... have to keep looking! Any known link would be appreciated!

:worried:

I always wear either a suit or a suit coat and pants with a cotton dress shirt or a more casual cotton button down shirt. Neckties often.
I like pleated pants, too, especially in a suit. Flat front is fine, too. I have some overcoats I really like, mostly gray or black, and one camel hair.

I buy a lot of stuff second hand. In this economy, nice items have become harder to get.

I don't own anything that was manufactured for women just because everything I prefer was manufactured for men.

Man, that sucks. It took me years to find just the right pair of trunks for me, so I can totally empathize....the idea of them no longer being available would suck! I sincerely feel for ya!

Yeah :( They make a similar line that the site directs you to when you search for those. Guess I'll be looking into them before the wife decides it's time to toss "those raggedy ass holy drawers"... sic semper tyrannis :pirate-steer: arrrrrrrr!

oops.. she sleeps where I sleep :byebye:

Hell yeah...and when they get that look in their eye, you know that crap is going bye-bye. (I had a partner who warned me about some shorts that were holey in strategic places. She hated it. Came home one day and she had totally cut them open. All. The. Way. It was sad to say goodbye to such a comfy friend.

I never do it, but honestly, the ticket is this: As soon as you find stuff you like that fits you, go out and buy more of it. Invariably, I wait and end up like you Jess, looking for a replacement. When will I learn?

...........i do this very thing, when i was in Laos a couple of yrs ago, i bought some Lacoste tighty whities in a box, they were perfect so the next day i bought another box

Not much use to you but i often buy marks & spencers boys aged l5 tighty whities, dunno if they have M&S in the states?

Not sure if the wording indicates a back or not.....says "backing" made of white silk. ???

http://www.tuxedosonline.com/detail....EPIQUEWHITETIE

As a femme, i would like to tell butches that if the clothes don't fit, they don't look good. Sometimes it's as easy as shopping in the women's section for a similar garment. Sometimes, tailoring is needed. i don't care how nice the clothes are, if they don't fit, . . .

This from a femme who alternates between three skirts and about six or seven tops. So, for what it's worth.

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......whooooooooooo, ARE YA GONNA TAKE THIS YOU GUYS:|

i think the dirty little secret of butch fashion IS that a lot of things from the women's section DO fit better. My ex -- who used "he," etc. -- bought, among other things, Gloria Vanderbilt cargo pants. The way his ass looked in those pants. . . . He also wore tailored shirts with darts. i think because he was proud of his abs and didn't want his shirt bagging down the waist. Damn, he was hot. *fans self remembering*

I have an authentic WWII Eisenhower Jacket. I found it many years ago in a thrift store. Sigh......................now if I could only still wear it.

What is it 'us guys' are gonna take?

Solid advice to buy clothes that fit properly?

I buy clothes that fit properly. I don't give a shit which department the clothes come from. I do have some women's shirts that fit me better than men's shirts. NO shame in that.

I rarely buy from the women's department, but that does not mean I must buy only from the men's department or risk having my butch card revoked.

Buy clothes that fit properly and if needed, have them altered.

Why is it such a big fucking deal to buy a shirt (or slacks or jackets) with the buttons sewn on the right side rather than the left side?

Cheap women's clothes are very poorly made of lousy fabrics(besides they are usually just plain weird looking) but cheap men's clothing is much better quality and still cheap.

things, they are a-changing
 

My femme room mate talked me into looking in the (gasp) woman's department for pants and what do you know? I found a pair of pants I like (decent sturdy material) that fit me well. And no pleats and no touching my curvey thighs. I was kind of excited about the materials and patterns I saw there.

But another thing about woman's pants that I can't stand is the pockets are so freaking small. What, "lady's" are not allowed to put their hands in their pockets??? And forget about putting a wallet in the back ones. And only one back pocket....really? Or they are sewn shut...go to all the trouble of making a pocket and then sew it shut? Is this what they charge extra for?

As for altering, I'm not expected to alter EVERYTHING right? My casual clothes get pretty torn and stained anyway because of the type of work I do, and my free time mostly is spent doing dog things. Maybe a couple of nice things for those rare dressy occasions?

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome
Going crazy trying to find a white pique (worn with tails) style vest that has a back! I have the usual backless kind, but want one with a back! I did find a black wool one.... just know they exist... have to keep looking! Any known link would be appreciated!

Seamstressly speaking "backing" is the material on the reverse or backside of a garment used to give structure to the garment... it can be a non-woven material such as Pellon, a light cotton, silk or artificial fiber such as nylon or polyester (aka microfibre). It has nothing to do with whether or not a garment has a back.

Usually vests for wear with a tuxedo, dinner jacket or morning suit do not have a back; this is to provide less weight to the overall design and enhance wearability without adding layers that may increase warmth and lead to sweating... peri and post menopausal Butches take note...

Pique is actually the name of a weave of cloth... can be done in just about any material but works best with cottons, cotton blends and light or tropical weight wools... best example of pique is in a LaCoste golf shirt ( the ones with the lil alligator crest) or knock offs of those... but for its use in formal wear, take a "pique" at this !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piqu%C3%A9

*<giggles> at pun...*

Yeah... just get things for dressy stuff altered. My casual clothes are just that... casual.

[COLOR="Navy"]There are women's clothes made that have deep pockets and I put a wallet in my back pocket in them all the time. But, no, not cheap. Although, if I have the time (and patience), I will go to the discount places and rummage. I have found top brands (men's & women's) for a fraction of the cost many times. Again, what fits YOU the best and you like is what matters.

I have my dog doing stuff attire, too! Rat pack! And painting fixing stuff, camping & fishing clothes.[/COLOR]


Gotta disagree here. I have seen weird/cheap in both and the opposite.

Jackhammer & Thinker have posted some good online links for great ties, vests and jeans for those of us that like to wear suspenders. Both are in mens wear. I want some of those sloops!

There are women clothing designers that have some great uni-sex styles that as a larger woman, fit me well. It looks like for a lot of smaller butches there is a whole other set of problems.

WOW, I am getting a lot of tips here! Hummm... one thing I can't wear via the women's department are shoes & boots. Never could. Got some way wide, big feet! Also, women's styles for the most part just don't speak to me for myself.


Thinking, cheap anything sux in clothing. I try to buy stuff that will last as well as fit. Even cheap men's T's are not for me. I have a hard time with anything that is tight or made from a fabric that isn't comfy for me. My breast/chest/shoulders have always been a problem even with many men's brands. I sure shop discount and thrift/vintage places, but I'd rather pay a little more and be able to wear something for awhile.

Also, in formal wear, buying a good brand is an investment. Just change shirts, ties, vests, etc. and a good tux can be worn for years (classic design).

I found this site called the Fedora Lounge a few months back, it has all these great vintage clothing photos. Clothing advice,history, etc. Covers the WWII era and before, so interesting and such lovely stuff. Eisenhower jackets? There were threads about them.

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