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charley 01-20-2019 02:44 PM

Melania doesn't care
 
I don't feel anything for the lot of them trumpsters, I don't feel anything for bad people...


There Melania is with her jacket, sporting the words:

'I really don't care. Do U?'

So, why on earth does anyone give a flying fig what happens to people like that? She's not mentally handicapped, and knows perfectly well the kind of man she married. And, Don Jr. knows who is father is, and nobody in that family dares say anything, because of $$$$ and the fact that they are all corrupt and rotten to the core, and none of them give a d*** about anything but themselves.

dark_crystal 01-20-2019 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charley (Post 1238780)
I don't feel anything for the lot of them trumpsters, I don't feel anything for bad people...


There Melania is with her jacket, sporting the words:

'I really don't care. Do U?'

So, why on earth does anyone give a flying fig what happens to people like that? She's not mentally handicapped, and knows perfectly well the kind of man she married. And, Don Jr. knows who is father is, and nobody in that family dares say anything, because of $$$$ and the fact that they are all corrupt and rotten to the core, and none of them give a d*** about anything but themselves.

i also feel bad for sex offenders and i think Lucifer was just asking questions so

Martina 01-20-2019 07:35 PM

I thought most of Melania's cringe-worthy moments were something to ignore because she never planned on this. I don't think initially being the First Lady meant anything to her, which is fine. That's her situation. I think she has invested now, and some of what she has revealed about herself is not all that admirable.

When she said the Press and writers of political books, etc. were using her family name to get ahead, I felt like I saw a glimpse of the real Melania. She has managed to get a lot of money and some power, and she imagines most people interacting with her, or talking about her, are trying to take something from her. It's kind of a sad way of looking at life. It may be how she operates. When someone once asked her if she would have married Donald if he had not been rich, she wisely replied, "Would he have married me if I had not been beautiful?" (Not an exact quote.)

She sees the world as people fighting for resources, and if you have more, people will want to exploit you. Obviously, that is sometimes the case. But people writing books about the Trumps are not necessarily opportunists. They're trying to understand our era and making arguments that might change opinion, and so on.

Melania has a very transactional and materialistic view of public and probably private interactions. She's not alone in that. But it's tacky and sad.

Martina 01-20-2019 07:42 PM

Re the kids, they all seem to get through college, which many of my friends' children seem not to be able to do. The youngest is in law school at Georgetown. Maybe it's the mothers. Ivana seems bright. Marla Maples, I don't know. I find it amusing that she fucked around on him.

homoe 01-20-2019 07:48 PM

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IMHO when it comes to the Trump kids, I think it's a case of The Apple Doesn't Fall Far From The Tree......

WheatToast 01-21-2019 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1235056)
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What the hell is with Susan Collins lately?? Has she lost her mind or perhaps fallen on her head?

She suffers from 'Cake n'Eat it' syndrome--fooling moderates into thinking she is representing their interests in a sea of misogynist male GOP white guys. Then when a crucial vote comes up, she votes with the aforementioned boys.
I will never believe her again after her Kavenaugh vote.:fastdraq:

WheatToast 01-23-2019 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orema (Post 1238721)
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign... I have not. I said the President of the United States ..." Pres. Trump’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani to Chris Cuomo in televised interview.

Of course this is a lie, but I also thinks it’s the first step in Trump throwing his family, particularly Don Jr., under the bus. I don’t think it will be an effective tactic, but it will help Trump deflect for awhile.

I’m looking forward to seeing Trump’s downfall, but not this. Regardless of how complicit a child may be, I don’t like watching a parent throw their children to the “wolves” especially when it’s to deflect a spotlight, but I guess it’s unavoidable with this family.

I heard some MSNBC pundit say that Trump doesn't fire Rudy because when Rudy goes on TV and plays the buffoon, the media talks about Rudy, not Trump. In Trump's insane world, I guess it makes sense. Any diversion makes sense to him, it seems.

Speaking of insane diversions, this shutdown has entered month two and effected civil servants have lost another paycheck. The economy is already starting to suffer over Trump's stubbornness. But when one considers the enormous ramifications of the shutdown extending into another month, I'm starting to think Putin saw what was happening and ordered his minion Donald to continue the shutdown. Does anyone agree?

kittygrrl 01-23-2019 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WheatToast (Post 1239028)
I heard some MSNBC pundit say that Trump doesn't fire Rudy because when Rudy goes on TV and plays the buffoon, the media talks about Rudy, not Trump. In Trump's insane world, I guess it makes sense. Any diversion makes sense to him, it seems.

Speaking of insane diversions, this shutdown has entered month two and effected civil servants have lost another paycheck. The economy is already starting to suffer over Trump's stubbornness. But when one considers the enormous ramifications of the shutdown extending into another month, I'm starting to think Putin saw what was happening and ordered his minion Donald to continue the shutdown. Does anyone agree?

Wheat, you are wise beyond your years-
on a happier note..Pete Buttigieg is interested in exploring possibly running-i like him
facts about him-
37 years old
Mayor of South Bend Indiana
Harvard Grad
Rhodes Scholar
Vet
Gay (out 2015)

-enjoyed his introduction on msnbc
he will be interviewed by Chris Hayes tonight (i think) stay tuned

Orema 01-23-2019 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WheatToast (Post 1239028)
I heard some MSNBC pundit say that Trump doesn't fire Rudy because when Rudy goes on TV and plays the buffoon, the media talks about Rudy, not Trump. In Trump's insane world, I guess it makes sense. Any diversion makes sense to him, it seems.

Speaking of insane diversions, this shutdown has entered month two and effected civil servants have lost another paycheck. The economy is already starting to suffer over Trump's stubbornness. But when one considers the enormous ramifications of the shutdown extending into another month, I'm starting to think Putin saw what was happening and ordered his minion Donald to continue the shutdown. Does anyone agree?

I'm thinkin' Stephen Miller (the alt right asses) and Mike Pence (religious zealots) are the forces keeping the government shut. I don't underestimate Putin's influence on this administration, but I think it's Miller and Pence who are keeping it shut down.

Orema 01-23-2019 02:38 PM

Kamala Harris on Rachel Maddow 01/23/19
 
I watched Rachel Maddow yesterday and I'm certain she said Senator Kamala Harris will be on her show this evening.

Rachel is on at 6pm Pacific Time on MSNBC.

WheatToast 01-23-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1238805)
Re the kids, they all seem to get through college, which many of my friends' children seem not to be able to do. The youngest is in law school at Georgetown. Maybe it's the mothers. Ivana seems bright. Marla Maples, I don't know. I find it amusing that she fucked around on him.


Trump proves that, with enough money, anyone can get through college.
As for his adult chidren...
People call them kids, but those kids are over 30 and advisors to the President of the United States and run multi million dollar, international corporations.
Kids, shmids. They are adults who appear to be as guilty of almost as many felonies as their creepy dad.
They probably tolerate him and joined Trump's campaign because he's at the age where inheritance becomes a major factor. He taught them to worship money and I'm sure they are all looking forward to inheriting his. I know I'm looking forward to the reading of his will! ;)

homoe 01-23-2019 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orema (Post 1239033)
I watched Rachel Maddow yesterday and I'm certain she said Senator Kamala Harris will be on her show this evening.

Rachel is on at 6pm Pacific Time on MSNBC.

Yes this is correct! I've watch MSNBC most of the day (in the background) and they are promoting the hell out of this...........:hangloose:

homoe 01-23-2019 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittygrrl (Post 1239030)
Wheat, you are wise beyond your years-
on a happier note..Pete Buttigieg is interested in exploring possibly running-i like him
facts about him-
37 years old
Mayor of South Bend Indiana
Harvard Grad
Rhodes Scholar
Vet
Gay (out 2015)

-enjoyed his introduction on msnbc
he will be interviewed by Chris Hayes tonight (i think) stay tuned

Yes, this too is correct! He will be on Chris Hayes tonight......:hangloose:

Martina 01-23-2019 06:46 PM

Money alone will not get you through Penn. It means you don't have to work. But you still have to take the same classes as any other undergraduate and pass them. Lots of people with the ability and opportunity to go to college don't finish. I don't care if you are privileged. An undergraduate degree means something. Research shows that finishing a degree in anything other than business actually changes your brain. Probably the Trump offspring majored in business. But the youngest, Marla Maples' daughter, is in law school at Georgetown. You can't buy your way through that.

Martina 01-23-2019 06:49 PM

I looked it up. The three oldest Trump children majored in business, but Tiffany graduated from Penn in Sociology. I am sorry, but they did not give her that degree. She earned it.

WheatToast 01-23-2019 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1239043)
Money alone will not get you through Penn. It means you don't have to work. But you still have to take the same classes as any other undergraduate and pass them. Lots of people with the ability and opportunity to go to college don't finish. I don't care if you are privileged. An undergraduate degree means something. Research shows that finishing a degree in anything other than business actually changes your brain. Probably the Trump offspring majored in business. But the youngest, Marla Maples' daughter, is in law school at Georgetown. You can't buy your way through that.

True enough, in most cases. I suspect Trump's CV, but I have no proof.
Funny thing, George W. Bush applied to the University of Texas and was rejected because of his grades. His father had to get him into Yale as a legacy admission.

dark_crystal 01-26-2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1239044)
I looked it up. The three oldest Trump children majored in business, but Tiffany graduated from Penn in Sociology. I am sorry, but they did not give her that degree. She earned it.

I had an ex point to my degrees one time and declare them worthless because i did not earn them, they were given to me because of my privilege.

I am aware that privilege played a role in making college accessible to me, and in creating a home environment where NOT attending college was unthinkable, but privilege did not write all of those papers. Otherwise i would have finished my Bachelor's in 4 years instead of nine :bigcry:

However, a dumber-but-richer girl than me would have done a lot better, because she would not have had to work retail (or at all) during half of her study time. So in that way privilege can buy half of a degree maybe.

Although my biggest barrier was not my four-evenings-per-week work schedule, but my five-evening clubbing schedule. Who knows how much clubbing a rich girl might have to do :superfunny:

homoe 01-26-2019 05:05 PM

During the next year I will be watching closely to see what Republican Senators start breaking party lines on major voting issues!

With Trumps approval ratings hitting a new low, Trump's term half over, and the government shutdown fiasco I think we're going to see more and more Senators start trying to distance themselves from this Administration in order to insure their re-election!

homoe 02-06-2019 12:10 PM

Stacey Abrams knocked it out of the ball park last night in her response to the State Of The Union Address rebuttal.....Something tells me we're going to be seeing a lot more her down the road..:hangloose:

Kätzchen 02-12-2019 04:29 PM

Subject: Plagiarism & Copywrite Infringement Law and Policy
 
Did anyone see the press release by HuffPost about how you-know-who used the campaign mantra by Hillary Clinton? "Stronger Together?"

Carnival of Lies in El Paso

I am struck by the blatant mis-use and borrowing of campaign slogans, the mis-use and borrowing of popular songs by Queen (We Are The Champions) and other copywrite infringement issues by well known American music artists and bands, and the multiple flagrant plagiarism issues by you-know-who.

Is there some sort of loop hole in codified plagiarism law or copywrite law which is preventing the prosecution of or the ability to file legal complaints?


I will have to see what I can research on this subject alone, but it's concerning that you-know-who has yet to be taken to task for these types of abuse of intellectual property rights types of issues.

homoe 02-26-2019 10:30 AM

.........
PLEASE spill your guts Cohen!

homoe 02-28-2019 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1241412)
.........
PLEASE spill your guts Cohen!



And spill his guts he did..........:hangloose:

MsTinkerbelly 02-28-2019 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1241596)
And spill his guts he did..........:hangloose:

The repugnant members of the committee kept asking why they should believe a liar...

If Cohen lied up there about things that the PROSECUTORS already know, he could get more charges leveled, his short sentence lengthened, and lose all cooperation deals! So, the fact that none of them spent time defending the pumpkin is VERY telling...they know it is all true!

Andrea 02-28-2019 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homoe (Post 1241596)
And spill his guts he did..........:hangloose:

Wish I was more optimistic about this information making any difference at all.

theoddz 02-28-2019 11:02 AM

But then, there's THIS, and we have to keep everything in perspective: (the SDNY investigation is the one that will actually GET Trump and his crime family)



~Theo~ :bouquet:

BullDog 02-28-2019 01:45 PM

I agree with this. I think Mueller has done a good job but I have thought for a long time that ultimately it will be SDNY (if anyone) that brings the Trump family down.



Quote:

Originally Posted by theoddz (Post 1241610)
But then, there's THIS, and we have to keep everything in perspective: (the SDNY investigation is the one that will actually GET Trump and his crime family)



~Theo~ :bouquet:


C0LLETTE 02-28-2019 02:43 PM

Don't know about you, but I have no idea what Mueller or the SDNY are up to. I just nod my head when I hear/see this "expert" or that "expert" depending on who seems closer to my own ideology...that's a lousy way to predict the future .

Martina 02-28-2019 04:31 PM

I suppose his testimony mattered, but I couldn't care much.

Obviously, the state of New York can file charges that Trump can't pardon himself for. I don't think the pardon is an issue though because I don't think they'll file before the election. This Supreme Court will not allow a sitting president to be indicted. I do think that figuratively, if not literally, Trump will leave the White House in handcuffs.

charley 02-28-2019 08:45 PM

Indicting Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1241618)
I suppose his testimony mattered, but I couldn't care much.

Obviously, the state of New York can file charges that Trump can't pardon himself for. I don't think the pardon is an issue though because I don't think they'll file before the election. This Supreme Court will not allow a sitting president to be indicted. I do think that figuratively, if not literally, Trump will leave the White House in handcuffs.

I have learned a lot from watching Rachel Maddow, whom I absolutely adore. From her show, I have understood that there is absolutely nothing in the constitution that prevents the indictment of a sitting President. Apparently, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

That was from Article II, Section 4, of the American Constitution:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arti...s_Constitution

Agnew was threatened with being indicted unless he resigned because they were afraid that after Nixon left - the rationale being that they didn't want Agnew to end up as the President (Agnew was a crook), hence the threat. So Agnew quit, and got a slight slap on the wrist...

Maddow explained the why and how of that situation clearly, as follows:

“The key point is that "under Justice Department rules,” that is a reference in fact to the standing internal Justice Department policy that says a sitting president of the United States can't be indicted. It's not a law that says a president can't be indicted. It's not written into Justice Department regulation. It's just a department policy. And it is a policy that derives from a very specific place.
...

“I mean, what the Dixon memo said in 1973, what that memo said was you could indict a vice president but incidentally you couldn't indict a president. And the way that the history of it has been remembered since then is that that 1973 OLC memo was written specifically with the Richard Nixon Watergate problem in mind and it was a definitive look at whether a president can be indicted, and even in the context of Watergate they believed that Nixon – really it was about Agnew and specifically trying to get to an outcome where the answer would be, yes, you can bring charges against Agnew.”

http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rac...how/2019-02-21

~ocean 02-28-2019 09:11 PM

~
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by charley (Post 1241633)
I have learned a lot from watching Rachel Maddow, whom I absolutely adore. From her show, I have understood that there is absolutely nothing in the constitution that prevents the indictment of a sitting President. Apparently, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

That was from Article II, Section 4, of the American Constitution:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arti...s_Constitution

Agnew was threatened with being indicted unless he resigned because they were afraid that after Nixon left - the rationale being that they didn't want Agnew to end up as the President (Agnew was a crook), hence the threat. So Agnew quit, and got a slight slap on the wrist...

Maddow explained the why and how of that situation clearly, as follows:

“The key point is that "under Justice Department rules,” that is a reference in fact to the standing internal Justice Department policy that says a sitting president of the United States can't be indicted. It's not a law that says a president can't be indicted. It's not written into Justice Department regulation. It's just a department policy. And it is a policy that derives from a very specific place.
...

“I mean, what the Dixon memo said in 1973, what that memo said was you could indict a vice president but incidentally you couldn't indict a president. And the way that the history of it has been remembered since then is that that 1973 OLC memo was written specifically with the Richard Nixon Watergate problem in mind and it was a definitive look at whether a president can be indicted, and even in the context of Watergate they believed that Nixon – really it was about Agnew and specifically trying to get to an outcome where the answer would be, yes, you can bring charges against Agnew.”

http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rac...how/2019-02-21


First ~ I wish every American who can would open a window and yell "YOUR FIRED" as the handcuff Trump and take him out of OUR White House ~ :)))

Second ~ I adore Rachel Maddow as well ~

I just wanted to share a mental picture of what I saw while reading this post ! lolol

Martina 03-01-2019 12:47 AM

I understand that it's legally possible to indict a sitting President. I just don't believe this Supreme Court will allow it.

charley 03-01-2019 04:18 AM

The Justice Department
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1241652)
I understand that it's legally possible to indict a sitting President. I just don't believe this Supreme Court will allow it.

I'm glad you are aware of that fact, but I'm not sure that many Americans understand that fact.

The problem, as I see it, is that there is a world of difference between the "policy" of the Justice Department (and the A.G.) as well as that of politicians (in general) and what the Constitution actually says.

I find that policy itself betrays what it means to be American; in other words, policy itself is un-American.

So, the core issue for me is not to be concerned as to whether or not the Supreme Court will indict the President. That is a classical "straw-man" argument - which seeks to deflect the real issue into some debatable and complicated argument. It is more likely that the Justice Department (and the A.G.) will be extremely reluctant to actually apply the Constitution, not to speak of the politicians themselves.

As I have often heard muttered quietly in the background (but I listened):

"The System is corrupt."

I will go further, and state most emphatically, that any System is but a reflection of "vested interests" of any small group of people (any gang or clique), and is therefore inherently corrupt. Historically, the policy of any System always regresses, degenerates, and devolves into "authority" - in other words, to authoritarian doctrine. And this authoritarian doctrine is always - repeat “always” - reflected and exemplified in the belief in a “leader”, which is nothing more than the co-dependent (i.e. neurotic) belief that there is hope and promise that there is someone out there who will save you from whatever mess you are in. This belief is always sustained by the most vulnerable and damaged part of the population, and every politician knows that, and uses that belief for self-aggrandisement, as a justification and rationalization for their drive for "leadership". And that is why "The System is corrupt."

Please understand that as a young adult, I often saw people of my generation (here in Canada) wearing that button: "Question authority" - which originally had came out from California at that time. Unfortunately, most people do not understand what that phrase implies. But it is really interesting if one goes deeply into that phrase "Question authority".

theoddz 03-01-2019 08:48 AM

The "Smoking Gun".....
 
One of the SINGLEMOST important takeaways from the Cohen Congressional interview:



...and it was NEVER argued about from any of the GOP panel members during Cohen's testimony!!! They kept their silly mouths shut!!!!

~Theo~ :bouquet:

Martina 03-01-2019 05:07 PM

Well, the state of New York is probably willing, but I doubt that they will based on the makeup of the Supreme Court. He's going to go to jail anyway, just later rather than sooner. There is no way to get him out of office other than electing a Democrat. I say concentrate on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by charley (Post 1241653)
I'm glad you are aware of that fact, but I'm not sure that many Americans understand that fact.

The problem, as I see it, is that there is a world of difference between the "policy" of the Justice Department (and the A.G.) as well as that of politicians (in general) and what the Constitution actually says.

I find that policy itself betrays what it means to be American; in other words, policy itself is un-American.

So, the core issue for me is not to be concerned as to whether or not the Supreme Court will indict the President. That is a classical "straw-man" argument - which seeks to deflect the real issue into some debatable and complicated argument. It is more likely that the Justice Department (and the A.G.) will be extremely reluctant to actually apply the Constitution, not to speak of the politicians themselves.

As I have often heard muttered quietly in the background (but I listened):

"The System is corrupt."

I will go further, and state most emphatically, that any System is but a reflection of "vested interests" of any small group of people (any gang or clique), and is therefore inherently corrupt. Historically, the policy of any System always regresses, degenerates, and devolves into "authority" - in other words, to authoritarian doctrine. And this authoritarian doctrine is always - repeat “always” - reflected and exemplified in the belief in a “leader”, which is nothing more than the co-dependent (i.e. neurotic) belief that there is hope and promise that there is someone out there who will save you from whatever mess you are in. This belief is always sustained by the most vulnerable and damaged part of the population, and every politician knows that, and uses that belief for self-aggrandisement, as a justification and rationalization for their drive for "leadership". And that is why "The System is corrupt."

Please understand that as a young adult, I often saw people of my generation (here in Canada) wearing that button: "Question authority" - which originally had came out from California at that time. Unfortunately, most people do not understand what that phrase implies. But it is really interesting if one goes deeply into that phrase "Question authority".


dark_crystal 03-06-2019 07:58 PM

So what do y’all think of the Ilhan Omar situation and the house anti-semitism resolution (which appears to be falling apart.)

I do not think her original remark was anti-semitic, it was anti-AIPAC. To me it is not the same thing but I am not Jewish

dark_crystal 03-17-2019 09:33 AM

Chelsea Clinton Confronted by Students at New Zealand Vigil: You 'Stoked' Islamophobia
Chelsea Clinton was confronted by a group of college students who claimed at a vigil on Friday that the former first daughter was partly responsible for the New Zealand mosque shootings, claiming she had previously “stoked” hatred against Muslims.

According to the Washington Post, Clinton, who is pregnant with her third child, attended a vigil in New York City for the victims of the Christchurch mass shooting, which left at least 49 people dead and 20 injured at two mosques on Friday. Clinton, who co-founded the Of Many Institute, an multifaith organization at NYU, had been invited to attend the vigil.

“This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world,” one student can be heard telling Clinton, 39, in a video of the confrontation, which was initially posted by fellow student Rose Asaf, who has since deleted her Twitter account.

“I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there,” the student added.

Maintaining her composure throughout the video, Clinton responded by saying, “I’m so sorry that you feel that way.”

“Certainly, it was never my intention. I do believe words matter. I believe we have to show solidarity,” she added.

Before the end of the clip, another student, who was not visible, could be heard asking Clinton, “What does ‘I’m sorry you feel that way’ mean?”

<snip>

The students’ comments appear to be in reference to Clinton’s earlier condemnation of Minnesota State Rep. Ilhan Omar, who was recently accused of making anti-Semitic comments enforcing hateful cultural stereotypes.

In February, 37-year-old Omar — who is one of the first Muslim women to ever be elected to Congress — issued an apology after sharing tweets that suggested U.S. relations with Israel centered around money, NPR reported.

Clinton was one of many who spoke out against Omar, writing on Twitter at the time, “We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism.”

According to NPR, following the backlash over Omar’s comments, the House went on to pass a resolution condemning “anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, racism and other forms of bigotry.”
What do we think?

I think the student had a point (everyone who complained about Omar last week should be called on it this week) but was her position strengthened by this action? A whole bunch of mainstream dems were outraged on Chelsea's behalf, and then all of them got dogpiled by leftist twitter, with the result that the division between the normie and progressive wings of the anti-Trump side are even more divided.

Personally, i think it's a mistake for Chelsea to be as visible as she is. She should not have been confronted, but she also should not have been there.

My reason for saying this is that she was a featured speaker at our conference a couple of years ago, and she just does not have anything much to say.

She's not that smart! There is no reason for her to be out there except nepotism.

Martina 03-17-2019 10:32 AM

I don't get the connection between criticizing Rep. Omar and the hate crime in New Zealand. Did the manifesto mention that? Those white supremacists have a long history of anti-Muslim sentiment and rhetoric to draw on.

I think Rep. Omar was right to criticize the lobby in support of Israel, but that dual allegiance comment that followed was fucked up.

Re Chelsea, she is dull. She has a Stanford undergraduate education and a doctorate from Oxford, yet she is so unmotivated that she's never held a real job in her field.

I read she did clean up the Clinton Foundation some, making it less an obviously pay for access enterprise.

The reason she has nothing to say is that the neo-liberal tradition out of which she comes is intellectually bankrupt. It has nothing to offer. She could go in other directions, really working in, say, international women's rights. But she's happier as an influential Manhattan socialite.

dark_crystal 03-17-2019 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 1242953)
She could go in other directions, really working in, say, international women's rights. But she's happier as an influential Manhattan socialite.

I mean, Princess Diana picked land mines. Come on, Chelsea.

She's like the Joel Osteen of neoliberals, in a riding-parental-coattails sense

Martina 03-17-2019 01:00 PM

She is a Clinton. If she's not going to get money, status or influence out of it, it's not going to get much of her time. I imagine she's interested in her kids. But who isn't?

I don't think she'll ever run for office. It's too much work. She'll just keep being on boards, teaching the occasional graduate seminar, and writing children's books.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_crystal (Post 1242963)
I mean, Princess Diana picked land mines. Come on, Chelsea.

She's like the Joel Osteen of neoliberals, in a riding-parental-coattails sense


nhplowboi 03-22-2019 10:14 AM

It would appear the Mueller report may break this weekend. Mueller is a strategist and I can see him aiming to ruin Donald's Mar-A-Lago weekend. I will say the Trump camp seems a little too calm about this so I am sure they have something up their sleeve, even if it is only Barr. I have NEVER thought our government could so easily be taken over by such blatant, unethical, corrupt, money grubbing people.
Oh PS (while I am on my rant)....how dare the R's sit quietly and meekly as this draft dodging, pathological liar maligns and speaks ill of the deceased Senator McCain.


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