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midwest chick 12-21-2011 04:56 PM

Trying to keep it under 10 smokes a day is difficult!!!!!

Maybe should just start the process early, and make the QUIT my Christmas present to myself this year...it's only a few days away.

Yuck, I hate being irritable

DapperButch 12-21-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midwest chick (Post 490224)
Trying to keep it under 10 smokes a day is difficult!!!!!

Maybe should just start the process early, and make the QUIT my Christmas present to myself this year...it's only a few days away.

Yuck, I hate being irritable

If you went from a pack to under 10 a day, then yes, it would be difficult, as you are going through withdrawal. It does sound like a good plan, though. It makes sense to me that when you quit on the 26th your withdrawal won't be as bad if you didn't start cutting back early.

Hang in there!

midwest chick 12-22-2011 09:37 PM

Got out the nicotine lozenges today, so far so good! I haven't had a cigarette today, and only want one when I let the dogs out. Going to try this for the weekend, if I end up smoking over the weekend, can still quit on Monday morning without kicking myself for failing.

Last smoke was at 11pm yesterday, almost 24 hours....:twitch:

Lady Pamela 01-18-2012 11:34 PM

Ok this sucksss!!!!!
 
I have offically cut down to 5 or 6 smokes a day for the last 4 days so far..Might I say..IT SUCKS BIG ONES..lol

Deep breathing, water, chewing on ice, walks, keeping busy, etc...That is what my plan is..any other ideas?..I am so having an issue..lol

I have smoked since I was 12..a pack to a pack and a half normally...Yikessss!..lol

I want to be healthy...I want more years in my life than what is coming my way if I continue..besides the money factor of course.

Thanks for any help.

And yes..I am most definately doing the withdrawls..sweaty, irratable, anxiety, and feelin bitchy..but trying to keep tabs on it all.

politicalboi 01-19-2012 12:43 AM

Root Beer Tasty Puff
 
I used an e-cigarette and found if you also get some Root Beer tasty puff it helps with the taste.. Just a few drops in the filter will make it taste better.

politicalboi 01-19-2012 12:47 AM

If you can handle the salt, Sunflower seeds are good to eat and it keeps your hands busy like smoking.

mustangjeano 01-19-2012 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 507893)
I have offically cut down to 5 or 6 smokes a day for the last 4 days so far..Might I say..IT SUCKS BIG ONES..lol

Deep breathing, water, chewing on ice, walks, keeping busy, etc...That is what my plan is..any other ideas?..I am so having an issue..lol

I have smoked since I was 12..a pack to a pack and a half normally...Yikessss!..lol

I want to be healthy...I want more years in my life than what is coming my way if I continue..besides the money factor of course.

Thanks for any help.

And yes..I am most definately doing the withdrawls..sweaty, irratable, anxiety, and feelin bitchy..but trying to keep tabs on it all.

Toothpicks, hard candy, gum???????If you have some sage to burn--this calms my nerves. You are on your way. I so admire your strength.

Lady Pamela 01-19-2012 01:42 AM

Thank you!..All of you.

This is easier when I can bitch and ask help from those who have been there before me..I can do this..I can do this..ha

A heck of alot of deap breathes..lol

mustangjeano 01-19-2012 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midwest chick (Post 490811)
Got out the nicotine lozenges today, so far so good! I haven't had a cigarette today, and only want one when I let the dogs out. Going to try this for the weekend, if I end up smoking over the weekend, can still quit on Monday morning without kicking myself for failing.

Last smoke was at 11pm yesterday, almost 24 hours....:twitch:

Way to go!!

DamonK 01-19-2012 01:56 AM

None since 1/8/12.

I downloaded a word search thingy on my android.

It makes time pass whilst on breaks at work so I'm not tempted.

I'm weird though. I've found that if I start craving, if I keep my mouth closed and inhale a slow deep breath through my teeth then exhale slowly, it mimics the activity of smoking and I'm okay again.

Lady Pamela 01-19-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamonK (Post 507943)
None since 1/8/12.

I downloaded a word search thingy on my android.

It makes time pass whilst on breaks at work so I'm not tempted.

I'm weird though. I've found that if I start craving, if I keep my mouth closed and inhale a slow deep breath through my teeth then exhale slowly, it mimics the activity of smoking and I'm okay again.

Way To Go Congrats!!!

Actually that is an awesome idea I will be using..don't have android but I do have a word search book around here ..lol or 20 of em..lol Thanks

Daktari 01-19-2012 05:20 AM

'Grats to all who've taken the plunge or are almost there. Read back in the thread, there are loads of handy hints, tips and personal stories to help you keep on track.

Try not to replace cigs with food, you'll regret it big time. Try to break the visual cues too. I found one of the plastic inhalator thingies a good way for me to break not only the hand to mouth action but the visual cues as it didn't look remotely like a cig. I used toothpicks and straws too.

Lady P, you've got it down thus far, have you considered using a NRT? Maybe patches? I took Chantix which really worked for me - along with the will power that has to be present too. A hundred patches stuck all over ya won't work unless you want them to. :cheesy:

Regards
Inc - nicotine free since 26.04.2010

Lady Pamela 01-19-2012 12:48 PM

Thank you for your support.
I am actually going to try a difrent patch but they don't come for a bit..like a week. I may not need them by then..lol
I can't use alot of them nor the chantrix due to allergies and health conflicts.

But I believe the one I sent for will be good. Crossin my fingers atleast..smiles

I also had an idea like just now...I will try to put what I learn't when quitting drugs into play..Don't know if it is the same but sure feels like it.

The word HALT puts you in check..HUNGRY, ANGRY, LONELY AND TIRED.
WHEN FEELING UNSETTLED YOU NEED TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ARE OK AND IN CHECK.

Hoping this will work too..smiles


Thanks again. wish me luck..day 5 at slowing down drastically.

mariamma 01-19-2012 01:38 PM

Hi all,

I have never been a tobacco smoker but have loved many who smoked. My sister smoked for 35 year, quit about 8 times and finally broke the habit after the second time she tried it with these herbs.

For those who don't know, tobacco is a stimulant and a depressant of the autonomic nervous system. It will increase you the fight/flight and relax with dopamine the pleasure part of your nervous system. So when you stop smoking, these neuronal receptors in the brain freak out (low dopamine) and you'll twitch like a tweaker yet you'll have less energy (less of a fight/flight response).

Nicotine is actually a neurotoxin in high doses. It's used industrially as an insecticide. When one smokes for many years, these nervous systems get used to not working as well and get too used to external pressure. These herbs are to help one get over that initial 2 to 4 week period when one quits.

Keep your smoking break habits up. Put the tincture is a bit of hot water and drink it like tea. Take the 5 minutes to stop, wool-gather, reflect, chit-chat or whatever you usually do while smoking. Just don't do it with another smoker until you get off the addiction and can be around smokers without wanting a cigarette.

Basic herbs for cessation
-mullien 15 drops, 3x a day
-licorice 5 drops, 1x a day
-Siberian ginseng, 12 drops, 1x a day
take before or at the usual time you have your first cigarette. The ginseng is a stimulant and will give you a little kick. You might want to take it a few times thru out the day when first quitting.

Liver detox (almost everyone should do this every year)
-burdock 12 drops 1x day
-milk thistle 12 drops 1x a day

Muscle relaxer (for the shakes and jitters)
-passion flower 12 drops 3x a day

Sugar cravings (they put sugar on the tobacco leaf which leads some to have sugar cravings when they quit tobacco)
-panax or American ginseng 10 cc vial a day (you can break up the timing to 2x or 3 x a day if that feels better)

Emotional cravings
-skullcap 3 to 5 drops a day (some find this a powerful herb. Listen to how your body responds to it)

Emotional/adrenal (energy) fatigue
-fresh oat head 5 to 10 drops 5x a day

Nicotine cravings
-lobelia 3 drops a day

Herbs are bitter and taste nasty, if an herb tastes good to you you probably should take it regularly if not monthly.

No one likes this cold infusion tea. Let me know if you like it

Fresh comprey and marshmellow root
-place a handful of herbs in a quart jar, cover with cold, fresh water and let sit over night. Strain and drink slowly through out the next day.

Lady Pamela 01-19-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariamma (Post 508255)
Hi all,

I have never been a tobacco smoker but have loved many who smoked. My sister smoked for 35 year, quit about 8 times and finally broke the habit after the second time she tried it with these herbs.

For those who don't know, tobacco is a stimulant and a depressant of the autonomic nervous system. It will increase you the fight/flight and relax with dopamine the pleasure part of your nervous system. So when you stop smoking, these neuronal receptors in the brain freak out (low dopamine) and you'll twitch like a tweaker yet you'll have less energy (less of a fight/flight response).

Nicotine is actually a neurotoxin in high doses. It's used industrially as an insecticide. When one smokes for many years, these nervous systems get used to not working as well and get too used to external pressure. These herbs are to help one get over that initial 2 to 4 week period when one quits.

Keep your smoking break habits up. Put the tincture is a bit of hot water and drink it like tea. Take the 5 minutes to stop, wool-gather, reflect, chit-chat or whatever you usually do while smoking. Just don't do it with another smoker until you get off the addiction and can be around smokers without wanting a cigarette.

Basic herbs for cessation
-mullien 15 drops, 3x a day
-licorice 5 drops, 1x a day
-Siberian ginseng, 12 drops, 1x a day
take before or at the usual time you have your first cigarette. The ginseng is a stimulant and will give you a little kick. You might want to take it a few times thru out the day when first quitting.

Liver detox (almost everyone should do this every year)
-burdock 12 drops 1x day
-milk thistle 12 drops 1x a day

Muscle relaxer (for the shakes and jitters)
-passion flower 12 drops 3x a day

Sugar cravings (they put sugar on the tobacco leaf which leads some to have sugar cravings when they quit tobacco)
-panax or American ginseng 10 cc vial a day (you can break up the timing to 2x or 3 x a day if that feels better)

Emotional cravings
-skullcap 3 to 5 drops a day (some find this a powerful herb. Listen to how your body responds to it)

Emotional/adrenal (energy) fatigue
-fresh oat head 5 to 10 drops 5x a day

Nicotine cravings
-lobelia 3 drops a day

Herbs are bitter and taste nasty, if an herb tastes good to you you probably should take it regularly if not monthly.

No one likes this cold infusion tea. Let me know if you like it

Fresh comprey and marshmellow root
-place a handful of herbs in a quart jar, cover with cold, fresh water and let sit over night. Strain and drink slowly through out the next day.

That is a great remedy. And I know people who can use it so thank you.

But with me..thats a whole lotta stuff to remember for me..I do good remembering to breathe..lol

I need an assistant to administer all that if I did it..lol
And it is also a bit costly.

But I will definately pass it along to a couple people who are using that form for sure.

Thank you.

Scuba 01-19-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariamma (Post 508255)
Hi all,

I have never been a tobacco smoker but have loved many who smoked. My sister smoked for 35 year, quit about 8 times and finally broke the habit after the second time she tried it with these herbs.

For those who don't know, tobacco is a stimulant and a depressant of the autonomic nervous system. It will increase you the fight/flight and relax with dopamine the pleasure part of your nervous system. So when you stop smoking, these neuronal receptors in the brain freak out (low dopamine) and you'll twitch like a tweaker yet you'll have less energy (less of a fight/flight response).

Nicotine is actually a neurotoxin in high doses. It's used industrially as an insecticide. When one smokes for many years, these nervous systems get used to not working as well and get too used to external pressure. These herbs are to help one get over that initial 2 to 4 week period when one quits.

Keep your smoking break habits up. Put the tincture is a bit of hot water and drink it like tea. Take the 5 minutes to stop, wool-gather, reflect, chit-chat or whatever you usually do while smoking. Just don't do it with another smoker until you get off the addiction and can be around smokers without wanting a cigarette.

Basic herbs for cessation
-mullien 15 drops, 3x a day
-licorice 5 drops, 1x a day
-Siberian ginseng, 12 drops, 1x a day
take before or at the usual time you have your first cigarette. The ginseng is a stimulant and will give you a little kick. You might want to take it a few times thru out the day when first quitting.

Liver detox (almost everyone should do this every year)
-burdock 12 drops 1x day
-milk thistle 12 drops 1x a day

Muscle relaxer (for the shakes and jitters)
-passion flower 12 drops 3x a day

Sugar cravings (they put sugar on the tobacco leaf which leads some to have sugar cravings when they quit tobacco)
-panax or American ginseng 10 cc vial a day (you can break up the timing to 2x or 3 x a day if that feels better)

Emotional cravings
-skullcap 3 to 5 drops a day (some find this a powerful herb. Listen to how your body responds to it)

Emotional/adrenal (energy) fatigue
-fresh oat head 5 to 10 drops 5x a day

Nicotine cravings
-lobelia 3 drops a day

Herbs are bitter and taste nasty, if an herb tastes good to you you probably should take it regularly if not monthly.

No one likes this cold infusion tea. Let me know if you like it

Fresh comprey and marshmellow root
-place a handful of herbs in a quart jar, cover with cold, fresh water and let sit over night. Strain and drink slowly through out the next day.

Shoot...haven't smoked for a year and a half but it sounds like some of these might do a body good anyway :) Thanks!!

DapperButch 01-19-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 508215)
Thank you for your support.
I am actually going to try a difrent patch but they don't come for a bit..like a week. I may not need them by then..lol

Be careful with the patches. If you are already down to only 5-6 cigs a day, seems as though you would actually be increasing how much nicotine you are getting by using the patches (most patches give people one pack of cigs per day).

Good luck to you. Believe you can do it, and you will!

Lady Pamela 01-19-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 508504)
Be careful with the patches. If you are already down to only 5-6 cigs a day, seems as though you would actually be increasing how much nicotine you are getting by using the patches (most patches give people one pack of cigs per day).

Good luck to you. Believe you can do it, and you will!

Thank you so much for youe help. And very valid point.

So taking your advice, I will go to either the next step down or the last step down when they get here.

Thank you seriously.

DapperButch 01-19-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Pamela (Post 508326)
That is a great remedy. And I know people who can use it so thank you.

But with me..thats a whole lotta stuff to remember for me..I do good remembering to breathe..lol

I need an assistant to administer all that if I did it..lol
And it is also a bit costly.

But I will definately pass it along to a couple people who are using that form for sure.

Thank you.

Cheaper than smokes, though! :winky:

Lady Pamela 01-20-2012 01:37 PM

day 6 slowing down.
 
Ok so officially on my 6th day of cutting way down...Still doing like 6 smokes a day..except last night I stayed up and had 7 for the day..I just might be getting a little better handle on it for now. Atleast untill the next time I have to breathe deep or a stresser comes my way..Either way...I will stay on this no matter what, EVEN IF I FEEL IT WILL KILL ME...Ha!
I have found in RT, people don't see cutting down as a good thing. Really kinda sucks. But I see it as a great success.


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