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Martina 09-20-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog (Post 658415)

Any time butch and trans are put together we are automatically seen as he/male and referred to or compared to that.

This bears repeating.

Corkey 09-20-2012 06:20 PM

When in doubt, ask.

DapperButch 09-20-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlixKnight4All (Post 658476)
Dapper
I agree with you completely. My post is actually out of order and not is response to the current topic. Sometimes I truly do take to long to write my posts *laughs*.
Mine was in response to posts I now know I should have quoted. Again my mistake. I was just offering clues that may help here and else where not this thread.

To be clear when I see hy I do not assume male and I do not assume not male. What I do assume is I should use it with that person until I know them or I ask.
In most threads it is just simpler not to use pronouns period accept foe me and I.
But as always thank you for your response you always make me think.

No need to apologize, I was just presenting my opinion/information about myself.

Tony 09-23-2012 03:23 AM

Well, so much to read & I have so much to say but in my stupid smart phone, my typing gets tedious. Please bear with me. I have learned so much, & continue to learn from this site. I've lived a stealth life since my late teens as a TransSEXUAL. The term "trans", when I was younger only meant transsexual. The "born in the wrong body" thing. Now I understand it to encompass many more chosen ID's. I think this is where some confusion comes from. Bottom line, for me, is it's all about respect. I personally have problems with pronouns, but they only happen on sites like this, & once I've corrected or informed someone, it's been fine. As someone mentioned earlier, when in doubt, ask. And your profile does give the opportunity to let people know your personal wishes.
Hope I came off ok. Lol
Just my .02

weatherboi 09-23-2012 09:02 AM

From my perspective I agree with Toughy and Bulldog.

I am a pre op trans man and continually get lumped into a butch category of some kind by femmes, my transgender community (men and women alike), gay men, and other people that tend to be gender binary guardians.

In all my years of knowing that I am a man born to a female body did I ever encounter this till the late 90's online. I have watched this particular behavior carry over into the world we all walk in together socially. When I have this experience, it has been for many different reasons all particular to each offender and something I can never get the full understanding of because I am not them. Sometimes I correct people and sometimes I don't. It all just depends what space i am in and why I think they are doing it and sometimes continue to do it. Understand, I am talking about people that pretty much know me and know that I am a man born to a female body.

Transgender has no hierarchy regardless of body modification or not, regardless of T or not, for me being born in the wrong body starts in the mind and ends in the mind. The physical transition is a plus and a privilege for some, or not, and others it will never be an option and can be a burden, or not.

For me, feminine and masculine are the continuum, and genders are the constant in a giant universe of fluidity, because presentations vary sooooo much, and then sometimes they don't, creating norms and stereotypes.

Tony 10-12-2012 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Canela (Post 630249)
Thank you for your fierceness. The protective nature that you have for me, that quality that makes you want to stand up for me even when you know I'm more than capable to stand up for myself.

Thank you for showing me love in a discreet and (not so discreet-not pda) way sometimes, in front of my family and friends. The kindness and courtesy you give me that moves even straight couples to reassess their own behaviors....

Thank you for making me the Queen of our world/life/relationship and understanding your own place as our King.

Thank you for committing to us, to our life and to our loved ones. Being you is the only way I can love you, and thank you for receiving my love in it's entirety.

Thank you for letting me be me with you, the girl, the mama, the wifey the kitten, the tigress, the lamb, the big baby. Thank you for being my bf, man, husband, daddy, mister, sir, friend, lover, (big baby) among others and for understanding that masculine terms are natural to me for you, and I revel in being able to use them. That means more to me than you know.


Thank you for appreciating me in all my many facets. For making me feel good about being a girl/woman who loves her bf/TG/FtM/Transman.

Thank you for"getting" it.

Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

GraffitiBoi 10-12-2012 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 673945)
Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

Yes she is. I hope to find a woman who thinks of me that way some day.

LoyalWolfsBlade 05-20-2013 12:42 AM

Thank you....
 
Tonight I want to take the time to say thank you and to acknowledge how much I appreciate one of my trans brothers. So I say thank you Paphgleo for taking this guy to his first trans meeting ever and making me feel more comfortable than I thought I could be.

I was pretty much a complete stranger to you yet you were willing to be there for one of your brothers and I thank you for that. I swear I do not normally talk as much as I did tonight. :cigar2:

Tony 05-26-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 673945)
Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

Who knew that I'd be that VERY lucky guy? Life is good.

DapperButch 05-26-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 803879)
Who knew that I'd be that VERY lucky guy? Life is good.

No shit? That's awesome!

Tony 05-26-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 803910)
No shit? That's awesome!

Yea, it really is. Very awesome. ;-)

Canela 05-26-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 804078)
Yea, it really is. Very awesome. ;-)


Unless you're me, you have no idea how awesome my sweet loving man truly is...
He's better than chocolate! Lol

Tony 05-26-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Canela (Post 804116)
Unless you're me, you have no idea how awesome my sweet loving man truly is...
He's better than chocolate! Lol

Wow. Better than chocolate? Damn, I hit the jackpot.

Canela 05-27-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 804206)
Wow. Better than chocolate? Damn, I hit the jackpot.

Hey! That's how I feel--so happy! :cheer:


LoyalWolfsBlade 05-28-2013 02:15 PM

I want to take a moment to show some Trans appreciation for Nadeest. She is always there to answer a question and to show support. Whether it is for one of us old timers like myself or any new comer. She is both knowledgeable, gentle, and true.....a real lady. I for one appreciate all she does on this site and has done for this guy. :rrose:

Nadeest 05-29-2013 01:05 AM

You are very welcome, and thank you for the lovely compliments. However, as to my being 'gentle', you might! want to ask my younger brothers about that. I'm fairly certain that they have a vastly different opinion, on that subject. :P

LoyalWolfsBlade 05-29-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nadeest (Post 805132)
You are very welcome, and thank you for the lovely compliments. However, as to my being 'gentle', you might! want to ask my younger brothers about that. I'm fairly certain that they have a vastly different opinion, on that subject. :P

That's okay my younger brother has the same opinion of me...smile


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