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Jess 03-24-2010 01:56 PM

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...W15Ew7gg5hc%3D

I'm sure Sarah Palin would be " shocked and almost speechless" if anyone interpreted her "targets" as "cross hairs". When will folks learn to accept their responsibility in the power of "suggestion".

AtLast 03-24-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 72565)
As a follow-up to this, apparently someone severed the propane tank hose. The original guy claims he's "a little shocked and amazed.".

Really?! Responsibility not required, huh?


(emphasis mine)

What the hell is going on?? Thanks for posting this.

Linus 03-24-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jess (Post 72579)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...W15Ew7gg5hc%3D

I'm sure Sarah Palin would be " shocked and almost speechless" if anyone interpreted her "targets" as "cross hairs". When will folks learn to accept their responsibility in the power of "suggestion".

Someone yanked that picture from the link. Do you have it somewhere still?

Jess 03-24-2010 02:35 PM

http://twitpic.com/1ajru7

I saw it on Rachel Maddow last night.. pulled it off the site above.

MsDemeanor 03-24-2010 02:53 PM

I'm concerned about April 19th. April 19th was the start of the American Revolution, the Branch Davidian fire, and the Oklahoma bombing. This year, the tea baggers and the gun nuts are staging events all over the country, including a 2nd Amendment gathering in DC. I've heard that they are also having a big 'bring your guns' gathering at a park in Virginia, supposedly the closest location that they could find to DC where they can tote their guns in public. Obama is speaking about health care that day in Virginia, too.

In regards to the 2nd Amendment rally, um, jackasses, Obama supports the 2nd Amendment and gun owners' rights. Get a fucking clue.

SuperFemme 03-24-2010 03:02 PM

Gas line cut at home of Va. congressman's brother
By DENA POTTER Associated Press Writer © 2010 The Associated Press
March 24, 2010, 2:04PM

RICHMOND, Va. — Authorities are investigating a severed propane line at the home of a Virginia congressman's brother after tea party activists posted the man's address online.

Activists are upset about U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello's vote in favor of the health care reform.

Perriello's office said that a line to a propane tank on a gas grill was cut at Bo Periello's Charlottesville home on Tuesday. Tea party activists had posted the address online thinking it was the congressman's home, telling opponents to drop by and "express their thanks" for his vote.

Albemarle County spokeswoman Lee Catlin said the county fire marshal's office was assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigation. She said investigators didn't believe the home's occupants were in danger.

AtLast 03-24-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 72640)
I'm concerned about April 19th. April 19th was the start of the American Revolution, the Branch Davidian fire, and the Oklahoma bombing. This year, the tea baggers and the gun nuts are staging events all over the country, including a 2nd Amendment gathering in DC. I've heard that they are also having a big 'bring your guns' gathering at a park in Virginia, supposedly the closest location that they could find to DC where they can tote their guns in public. Obama is speaking about health care that day in Virginia, too.
In regards to the 2nd Amendment rally, um, jackasses, Obama supports the 2nd Amendment and gun owners' rights. Get a fucking clue.

Whoa.. April 19!

What I am finding lately is that I get the same dreded feelings as I did back in the 60's when civil unrest resulted in violence. Doesn't matter what political or ideological sentiments are involved. It is remembering the people killed (Kent State, the assinations of JFK, MLK, & RFK, the race related rioting and burnings, for example) and hurt, the crazy eyes, the hateful eyes, the absence of reason. The lack of regard for human life.... all of our lives. I don't want to go back to that, not the violence.

I believe in our right to protest and demonstrate. I just don't want bloodshed. And I see so many politicians stoking the fire in order to gain power and frankly bring down a Democratic/perceived as far-left African American president. African American is the operative detail, I honestly believe.

:titantic: We are sinking into such power mongering and hate.

Bit 03-24-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 72682)
.... bring down a Democratic/perceived as far-left African American president. African American is the operative detail, I honestly believe.

I believe this, too. I believe this has nothing at all to do with politics in the sense of bills and amendments, etc, and everything to do with politics in the sense of racial hatred.

I'm still praying for the safety of everyone associated with the White House.

AtLast 03-24-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bit (Post 72694)
I believe this, too. I believe this has nothing at all to do with politics in the sense of bills and amendments, etc, and everything to do with politics in the sense of racial hatred.

I'm still praying for the safety of everyone associated with the White House.


I know, me too. I remember the day JFK was shot and exactly how I felt, even at the age of 12. It was one of the most horrid days of my life. Not so much because my parents backed him, but just having it happen, knowing the hate goes to that level.

I know all president's have threats, but Obama has many more threats than most do. I was not happy when that couple made their way into a White House affair... did not feel that Obama and his family are being protected as good as can be.

Diva 03-27-2010 04:36 PM

Great article:

> > Linky Loo < <



Soft*Silver 03-27-2010 05:52 PM

And he finished strongly with the most beautiful words: "You may want “your country back,” but you can’t have it. That sound you hear is the relentless, irrepressible march of change. Welcome to America: The Remix."

WOOO HOOO! SO thats what I have been hearing...my gut can feel like its kicked in but as long as I hear the sounds of change, I know the old is breaking off and the new is being chiseled strongly in place....




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Originally Posted by Diva (Post 74174)
Great article:

> > Linky Loo < <




Soft*Silver 03-27-2010 06:22 PM

Ijust caught this on yahoo...refering to Sarah Palin "Now a Fox News analyst and potential 2012 presidential candidate, Palin faced criticism after posting a map on her Facebook page that had circles and cross hairs over 20 Democratic districts. She also sent a tweet saying, "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!"

She said Saturday she wasn't inciting violence, just trying to inspire people to get involved."

really? RELOAD isnt inciting violence?

Oh my goodness....this is not going to be getting any better, is it?

AtLast 03-27-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diva (Post 74174)
Great article:

> > Linky Loo < <



Very fine article- love this from it....

Even the optics must be irritating. A woman (Nancy Pelosi) pushed the health care bill through the House. The bill’s most visible and vocal proponents included a gay man (Barney Frank) and a Jew (Anthony Weiner). And the black man in the White House signed the bill into law. It’s enough to make a good old boy go crazy.

Thanks, Diva!

AtLast 03-27-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softness (Post 74244)
Ijust caught this on yahoo...refering to Sarah Palin "Now a Fox News analyst and potential 2012 presidential candidate, Palin faced criticism after posting a map on her Facebook page that had circles and cross hairs over 20 Democratic districts. She also sent a tweet saying, "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!"

She said Saturday she wasn't inciting violence, just trying to inspire people to get involved."

really? RELOAD isnt inciting violence?

Oh my goodness....this is not going to be getting any better, is it?



She is sooooooo nuts! But scary in that she does draw out the right-wing extremists in a way that they feel comfortable using racist, et. al. slurs and posters with Obama as Hitler, etc. She gives them license by being what is considered to be a viable candidate and spokeswoman for common folk.[I]Circles and cross hairs [/I]plus RELOAD and she doesn't get that this incites violence? Wait, of courswe she doesn't....

Soft*Silver 03-27-2010 10:04 PM

she is a very dangerous person. We can poke fun at her all we want, but she is by no means powerless...AND ... those IN power are grooming her carefully. My biggest fear is that she will win the next presidential race. When she quit being governor and was being very quiet about her plans, I Knew she was being offered something beyond her immediate power. The mutiny wont come with this president..the mutiny will come with her as president...


Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 74394)

She is sooooooo nuts! But scary in that she does draw out the right-wing extremists in a way that they feel comfortable using racist, et. al. slurs and posters with Obama as Hitler, etc. She gives them license by being what is considered to be a viable candidate and spokeswoman for common folk.[I]Circles and cross hairs [/I]plus RELOAD and she doesn't get that this incites violence? Wait, of courswe she doesn't....


socialjustice_fsu 03-27-2010 10:38 PM

I agree with Softness and AtLastHome...
 
Sarah Palin is going to have to be reckoned with...that is a certainty. Yes, she calls out the extremists but does so in an unbelievably uncanny way. She pumps 'them' up...sort of incites the old riot...and then seizes more of a powerbase. The Tea Party has money. Lots of it. And it is a powerbase whether we like it or not. She was paid a handsome fee for her keynote speech only to donate it back to her cause. She is a talking head with a whole lot of clout from the right wing and she is positioning herself quite well at this point in time. The media joins in the ranks and 'projects' the general population as seeing President Obama in an unfavorable light thus making it fertile ground for someone of Palin's character (or lack thereof) to lock in the powerbases. I thought my days of political activism had moved to the back burner...but the thought of Palin even running on a ticket makes me want to step up to the plate and re-think what to do with my time, money and talent.

Soft*Silver 03-27-2010 10:48 PM

and just in case no one else might not warn you, let me...

if you are of weak knees, flimsy stances, conquerable ethics and fearful existances, beware. Get your name taken off lists NOW. Stop your subscriptions NOW. Dont web around where you shouldnt, NOW.

they ARE coming...and they will find you if you arent careful NOW....

and no I am not paranoid. Those of you old enough, remember...when the favor splits and havoc plays on the sense of right from wrong, moral elitists will form groups to select out those who they deem sinful and will make it illegal.

if you think we dont have a seperation of church from state now, just wait...

the hockey mom who wears Jesus around her belt, slings a powerful halo and will use it ring us in....

careful now..you have been warned ahead of time...

AtLast 03-28-2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softness (Post 74407)
she is a very dangerous person. We can poke fun at her all we want, but she is by no means powerless...AND ... those IN power are grooming her carefully. My biggest fear is that she will win the next presidential race. When she quit being governor and was being very quiet about her plans, I Knew she was being offered something beyond her immediate power. The mutiny wont come with this president..the mutiny will come with her as president...


Actually, I have always viewed her as dangerous because of the grooming she was given and still is. I knew we were not going to see the last of her after MCCain lost. Oh, no, she is not powerless and the tide is ripe for a backlash to stop Obama in getting re-elected. After seeing Reagan elected Govenor of CA and then elected as president for two terms as well as GW Bush, I believe she could end up president. Obama is the exception in having intellect.

Cyclopea 03-28-2010 01:38 AM

let's talk Palin updo
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACaqFtVHviE"]YouTube- Palin's Face Turned Into a Maze[/ame]

Soft*Silver 03-28-2010 10:41 AM

corn nuts...:badscore:


AtLast 03-28-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softness (Post 74432)
and just in case no one else might not warn you, let me...

if you are of weak knees, flimsy stances, conquerable ethics and fearful existances, beware. Get your name taken off lists NOW. Stop your subscriptions NOW. Dont web around where you shouldnt, NOW.

they ARE coming...and they will find you if you arent careful NOW....

and no I am not paranoid. Those of you old enough, remember...when the favor splits and havoc plays on the sense of right from wrong, moral elitists will form groups to select out those who they deem sinful and will make it illegal.

if you think we dont have a seperation of church from state now, just wait...

the hockey mom who wears Jesus around her belt, slings a powerful halo and will use it ring us in....

careful now..you have been warned ahead of time...

Thank you, Ma'am... I feared that all of the new blood that was involved in getting Obama elected would fade after the election and that we would be where we are with the 2010 midterms. Let us not forget Clinton and the '96 midterm elections... and Newt! And Rove is still workin' the crowds- has a new book out!

Right now, it is very important to be firing-up the progressive and liberal masses, folks! November is just around the corner! Our work did not end with Obama's election!

Soft*Silver 03-28-2010 12:41 PM

"our work did not end with Obama's election"

Indeed..it only began...

I am terrified that people will now sit back and rest their hands over their plump little bellies (me included, as in plump little belly) and bask in our credits of having elected the first black president.

While we are doing that, the Non-Obamas (the NO's) are quietly and quicklye gathering forces ... and momentum...

if you dont like what you are seeing and hearing...trust that what you are not hearing and seeing would make your skin crawl...

history is going to repeat itself....unless we get working on our sand bags...cuz that "damn" is rising...

Rockinonahigh 03-28-2010 01:58 PM

We all new change was comeing even if Hillary had gotten on office insted of Obama.Im not surprised at whats happend in the last year.Obama has given the gop plenty of time to work with him as a team puting this country to rights and on a leval playing feild with the modern world on many issues.This hasnt happened and we know why...the gop has owned this country for a long time and they hate loseing it,hell ist made them richer and the rich richer,the rest of us can work ourselves to the bone and have little or nothing but the scraps of what the repubs toss out.Will we have to meet them at a line drawn in the sand?OMG! I hope not,but I really think we will at some point cause Palin is/has and will keep feeding them the same retoric she has been no matter how she white washes it she preaches hate,raceism and intolernce..not to mention classism.Its not even about religion..thtas just one more prop they are useing to build up the fires of hate...nothing worse than a religious was..look at the two wars we are in.In reality I know the dems arent going to just let them march in a d take it away with out one dam fine fight to hold on to the new USA that is forming as we speak.U bet im not giveing it up and I doubt anyone who wants to have a real life will.

SuperFemme 03-28-2010 02:55 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpOUctySD68"]YouTube- No You Can't (Featuring John Boehner)[/ame]

Gryph 03-28-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadgeek (Post 71899)
I'm curious. What was evil about the book? It's a hard book. It's a disturbing book. But I thought that Goldhagen bent over backward to be fair, accurate and scholarly. I never got the feeling that he was writing an anti-German book rather was debunking a widely held myth: that the Holocaust was committed by SS men without the knowledge of the German populace.

Cheers
Aj


I've never read the book, but I spent some time in Germany as a soldier. I had several friends among the "Nationals" as we called the German citizens. I heard time and again from those who were alive in that day and age, just how scary it was and how you complied with Hitlers laws, because if you didn't you and your family would be the next ones to end up in a camp somewhere.

One of my favorite friends had been a nurse at that time and she felt so bad for so much of her life after the war ended, because of what she couldn't do to help those who were the camp she worked in.

Unfortunately I see the same mentality in those who are calling the names, as I saw in the Brown Shirts from the history movies.

Gryph 03-28-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softness (Post 74432)
and just in case no one else might not warn you, let me...

if you are of weak knees, flimsy stances, conquerable ethics and fearful existances, beware. Get your name taken off lists NOW. Stop your subscriptions NOW. Dont web around where you shouldnt, NOW.

they ARE coming...and they will find you if you arent careful NOW....

and no I am not paranoid. Those of you old enough, remember...when the favor splits and havoc plays on the sense of right from wrong, moral elitists will form groups to select out those who they deem sinful and will make it illegal.

if you think we dont have a seperation of church from state now, just wait...

the hockey mom who wears Jesus around her belt, slings a powerful halo and will use it ring us in....

careful now..you have been warned ahead of time...


Only one thing.

I DON'T RUN, let them come.
After all I thought for sure during Shrub's time in office I'd piss someone off enough with my emails and my political rants blog, that I would end up in jail for my beliefs.

Bit 03-29-2010 10:24 AM

Another great article: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/op...me&ref=general


The only thing which will stop them in their tracks is if we who are not racist--the true Silent Majority in the US today--stand up and say to the Teabaggers and to the Republican party, "Racism is NOT acceptable in the USA; racism is NOT a family value; racism is NOT patriotic!"



Linus 03-29-2010 11:38 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/29/...ex.html?hpt=T1

And so it begins. :( The reality is that the militia groups that exist in the US have been here for a while. But I wonder if latest developments have given them reason to stand up and become more active in their behaviour.

MsDemeanor 03-29-2010 11:54 AM

The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks militia groups and the have noted a great increase in activity. These groups ebb and flow; they were quite active during Clinton, then quieted down during Bush II.

The SPLC has loads of information, including maps, at their web site. splcenter.org

AtLast 03-29-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 75242)
The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks militia groups and the have noted a great increase in activity. These groups ebb and flow; they were quite active during Clinton, then quieted down during Bush II.

The SPLC has loads of information, including maps, at their web site. splcenter.org




Quote:

This site is terrific, thanks.

Obama's election and the recession have a lot to do with the increase in activity. Yes, they have always been around, and will continue to be. I just think it is very important to speak-out about this activity.

Bit- you are right, it is up to the silent majority to stop the silence. I am not naive enough to believe that these idiots will ever change, but, I don't have to accept what they say and do.

The GOP is actually courting tea baggers! They want their votes!!!


:nixon: Nixon... he coined the term Silent Majority...

Linus 03-29-2010 02:32 PM

Uh.. whut?! Really??

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...k-callers.php/

Quote:

A caller to C-Span this morning, who identified himself as a Republican from North Carolina, accused the network of taking too many phone calls from black people.

"You have black folks calling in on the Republican line, independents. And you have so many of 'em I can't believe this is just an accident. If you keep on with the way you've been programming, you should change your name from C-Span to black-span," he said. "I know they have an opinion but I wish that they would be honest and call in on the right line."


"Everyone one of 'em thinks that Obama is Jesus Christ and they don't like when anybody criticizes him," he added.
Every time I think that a new low is hit... I find an even lower one.

Soft*Silver 03-29-2010 02:40 PM

if this wasnt so damn seriously profanely WRONG, I could almost laugh at it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 75310)
Uh.. whut?! Really??

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...k-callers.php/


Every time I think that a new low is hit... I find an even lower one.


AtLast 03-29-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus (Post 75310)
Uh.. whut?! Really??

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...k-callers.php/


Every time I think that a new low is hit... I find an even lower one.

This absolutely amazing!! Yes, a new low.... I share a planet with this idiot!!!

:wtf:

Rockinonahigh 03-29-2010 03:38 PM

Recently I was sent an email from someone who lives a long way from me asking about something thay herd.Seems like ,near in my home town (so says the artical)that the local police has gotten close to 300 ex police and militare ppl to work as an backup to the popo if needed.The artical mentioned a war wagon to combat whatever it is needed to.They are very careful to not call it a millita(sp?),,dureing the mardigras parade they bhad something the news caster called the war wagon in the thing...my god it looks like something out of madd maxx.Scary it is that after all the effin bs we all went thrue in the 60's to think it will happen all over cause of neantherthall mentality of the gop.


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