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girl_dee 03-23-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 551701)
Well the 2x4 would really attract me Dee!!!!!!!! I would figure 1 of 2 things. Either she is really skilled in DIY home remodels in which case PERK and SWOON, or she needs a butch to help her in which case , it would be her lucky day if I was single at the time. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!


One would think.

Yaknow you can only spend so much money sending boxes to yourself hoping the UPS butch will get the hint...signing your phone number never works, they make you fix it.... You can only break so much stuff in a small office space before they start investigating.

you can only trigger the fire alarm so many times before they fine you, and that butch firefighter is never on duty when you need her to be. (Now i have my very own firebutch and She doesn't really like the fire alarm trick)

i nearly ripped off the floor trim in my office once to get the attention of our handybutch. It didn't work, she came in, fixed it and left shaking her head saying she was not exactly sure how that could come off like that. (Luckily she didn't see the heel print )

You THINK she would have gotten the message when that darn trim came off a second time, not to mention the desk drawer being stuck and that stupid light bulb that i just could not reach.

She DID however ask me to come see her toolbox and her truck. My truck was bigger but I didn't mention that.

Hey wait! Maybe i was the 2x4 femme! Honestly i could have done my own repairs because i am very handy that way but it sounded like a good idea at the time.

Actually i was not trying to catch a date, but just to OUT myself somehow as being gay, and i am sure in the end that happened but not without a LOT of effort and extra construction work on her part.

LaneyDoll 03-23-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by socialjustice_fsu (Post 552292)
Attention all Femmes:

What do you say about gethering up JAGG and hauling him to the lumber yard and let him get cozy with some of those 2 x 4's.

I'm game! I have handcuffs and the skills to put them on you before you even realize they are there.
;)

:sparklyheart:

socialjustice_fsu 03-23-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 552298)
I'm game! I have handcuffs and the skills to put them on you before you even realize they are there.
;)

:sparklyheart:

OMG! The visual I have going on in my head is film-making worthy.

LaneyDoll 03-23-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by socialjustice_fsu (Post 552299)
OMG! The visual I have going on in my head is film-making worthy.

So, a trip to the lumber yard, with a butchnapped Jagg, handcuffs AND a camera?

Sounds like a great weekend to me!

:sparklyheart:

Gemme 03-25-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy (Post 552141)
I think this is more common than some gals might think.

When I met my SO she was friendly, but not willing to (in her words) "scare the straight girl" no matter how much I batted my lashes. So, I flat out asked her if she was single. After she said yes, I told her she looked delicious in those vintage jeans and asked if I could buy her dinner one Friday night. I wasn't creepy stalkerish in my approach. Just to the point. If it had gone the other way, no harm, no foul.

My opinion, Say Something. Even if they turn out to not be available, you may have made someone's day by just making them realize they've "still got it" ;)

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Originally Posted by Martina (Post 552156)
And saying something really flirty might make you assume we want to date you or as Snow says, get into your pants. i do not want to confuse anyone. i sure don't want to be rejected when i wasn't even on the make. So . . . .

That would be my hesitation in the direct approach. The natural assumption that I was interested in them even if all I wanted was to acknowledge them and be seen myself.

Of course, if they took it as attraction and asked me out.....:thinking:....

JAGG 03-26-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 552301)
So, a trip to the lumber yard, with a butchnapped Jagg, handcuffs AND a camera?

Sounds like a great weekend to me!

:sparklyheart:

I may or may not have a similar fantasy about this very thing. LOL

LaneyDoll 03-26-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 553765)
I may or may not have a similar fantasy about this very thing. LOL

Hmmm. May or may not?

Should that read MAY or may not?


;)

:sparklyheart:

Lady_Di 03-29-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by theoddz (Post 551722)
I've had a Femme self identify herself to me ONCE, and let me tell you, it couldn't have come at a better time, too!!

I was in the hospital a few years ago having a total knee replacement and those idiots (the surgical staff) put a LATEX foley (urinary) catheter in me. Well, it shut my kidneys down and was super painful. I kept telling my nurses how badly it was hurting, but they'd all dismiss me and tell me "Oh, no one is comfortable with those". I actually went into a full reaction with that and got little to no sympathy. :(

Until the second day, when I got a wonderful woman named "Lisa" for my nurse. Lisa was a Femme, thankG-dinSunnyHeaven!!!! She told me so, since I was just in my first year of transition at that time, but she recognized some of my more subtle changes and knew I was trans. When she introduced herself to me at the first of her shift, she gently leaned down and whispered in my ear, "Don't worry, you have "family" here and I'm going to take good care of you.". I know I had tears in my eyes when I realized what she was saying and I asked her, almost joyfully, "Are you a Femme??", to which she smiled and said, "Let me put it this way....My significant other is very masculine." Well, I told her my sad story of hurting so badly, and no one would listen, and could she please check the catheter and see if something was wrong. Well, she ended up pulling that damned thing out and she told me it was latex!!! She saw to it that I immediately got some medication to take my allergic reaction down. It took about a week, total, to get the reaction under control, but my kidneys finally started up and making urine again. I don't know what I'd have done without Lisa, that wonderful Femme, and her determination to take such good care of me. Thank G-d for her!!!!

Ladies, you DO make a difference to us, bois, boys, Butches and fellows. Don't be afraid to take those extra measures to let us know who you are. You might be quite pleasantly surprised!!! :winky:

~Theo~ :bouquet:

On one hand this makes me so proud of my profession and the femmes that abound within. On the other hand, I am so pissed off that the rest of the staff there treated you so poorly. Could have fricken killed you and they would have been none the wiser. Really sad, but a valuable lesson here. I will always defend each and every patient I get, especially the ones that the rest of the staff abhor or dismiss for whatever reason. And I have seen many biases and supposed reasons for their dismissive attititudes. Bottomline it is unethical in a profession that prides itself on the very highest of ethics and honesty. I think the nursing board needs to be forewarned of such bs, imnsho. They have the power to educate and demand equal and fair treatment to one and all. Fight the good fight, mon ami.

JAGG 03-29-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 553819)
Hmmm. May or may not?

Should that read MAY or may not?


;)

:sparklyheart:

I think I will just let that be a big mystery. Haha. Let's do the math, shall we ? Kidnapped by a group of femmes handcuffed and hidden in a lumber yard , now what butch has thought about that once or twice, that's all I'm gonna say about that. (Sheepish grin)

LaneyDoll 03-29-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 555478)
I think I will just let that be a big mystery. Haha. Let's do the math, shall we ? Kidnapped by a group of femmes handcuffed and hidden in a lumber yard , now what butch has thought about that once or twice, that's all I'm gonna say about that. (Sheepish grin)

Yeah be careful with that thought. I am really bad with directions and I may lose someone if I stash them anywhere. They would need a GPS locator, a flashing beacon etc for me to find my way back.

Especially in a lumber yard.

:sparklyheart:

JAGG 03-29-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 555500)
Yeah be careful with that thought. I am really bad with directions and I may lose someone if I stash them anywhere. They would need a GPS locator, a flashing beacon etc for me to find my way back.

Especially in a lumber yard.

:sparklyheart:

Haha. Wouldn't be the first time, I was left behind. Just wasn't handcuffed. Lol

LaneyDoll 03-29-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 555511)
Haha. Wouldn't be the first time, I was left behind. Just wasn't handcuffed. Lol

Handcuffed in a lumber yard with your butch-napper who is lost is not a good idea.

:sparklyheart:

JAGG 03-29-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneyDoll (Post 555524)
Handcuffed in a lumber yard with your butch-napper who is lost is not a good idea.

:sparklyheart:

It be tough trying to explain things to the local news stations and police. Lol

LaneyDoll 03-29-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JAGG (Post 555528)
It be tough trying to explain things to the local news stations and police. Lol

Hey! I bet the homemade video would go viral! We could be rich!

:sparklyheart:

Princess 03-30-2012 01:17 AM

Ya know earlier on Medusa said she wore a necklace that said "femme" on it...well it made me curious because ive never seen anything like that. So I went on a little hunt and sure enough Etsy had cute little necklaces that say Femme on them, and I also found a site that you could personalize your own necklace for somewhere around $30. Not too bad!

On another thread someone had mentioned that maybe we (femmes) should wear some specific type and color bracelet so that we could be spotted and identified easily. What do you guys think about that?

~ocean 03-30-2012 01:24 AM

only u princess would find just what someone is looking for !!! I <3 u :)))

Quintease 03-30-2012 12:39 PM

I used to wear a 'Dyke' until the day I walked into a store and the guy behind the counter said, 'Who's Duke? Is he your boyfriend?'. Completely stumped for what to say I walked out of the store in silence.

I would wear a 'femme' however, in fact someone I know wears a femme...

MaggieBluIze 05-08-2012 05:58 PM

Hi *smile*

This last Sunday ...
Due to a laundry situation, had to borrow my g/f's boi polo ...
Due to a slight weight :seeingstars:, wore my baggy khaki shorts ...
Due to lots of walking planned for our outing, I wore tennis shoes ...
Due to needing a haircut, had hair in ponytail ...

Result ... "They" SAW Me!!!

The butches I walked by SAW me ...
Said hello ... Nodded ... Smiled ... OMG!!!!!

This does NOT happen!!!!!
Not just once, but SEVEN times!!!!

It was so exhilarating ...
Till I remembered each time that I was not in my "normal" garb.
I would normally not look like "this".

In MY "normal clothes" today, walked past 3 butches at separate times, not even a half a glance.
Nothing!!!!!!!! It was a very sad moment, each time.

Femme Invisibility ... Yes, I know it well.

FemmeAllae 05-17-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kannon (Post 551934)
I propose the development of a new Iphone app called:

femme visibility.

it will work like a GPS tracking device.

Brilliant!

Clyde 02-27-2015 04:54 PM

<3 this
 

cricket26 02-27-2015 09:47 PM

at the grocery store...i was getting my wallet from my purse...and saw barefeet with sandals...my gaze went up and i saw plaid shorts...further up i saw a butch with a dallas cowboys ski cap on her head walking by me at the check out....looking at me as if i were invisible...as the couple behind her walked by me i did not notice the husband, but the wife glared at me...i did not feel invisible to her..i managed to get my things rung up while the girls behind me watched my peculiar interactions with total strangers...and as i tried to make my way passed all of them i was invisible as all of them found a way to prevent me from passing...ugh...this happens to me every time i am at the store...sigh...

randrum 02-28-2015 12:16 AM

So I thought I'd add my two cents to this thread, because I find it interesting. Not sure what I have to say is worth that much though. ;)

I'm completely oblivious. To everyone. It's not a matter of not knowing if a lady is femme or not. It's me being so lost in my own head and probably thinking about my own feelings of invisibility that I don't notice anyone around me in return.

And when it comes to a femme being interested in me or flirting with me? I'm definitely the butch you'll need a 2x4 with. Unless you make it 100% clear and obvious, I will not pick up on the subtly.

thedreamerin 03-07-2015 07:19 PM

What people see..
 
I am completely invisible, as far as my status as a lesbian goes. For me it is kind of nifty. I kind of see it like this... by mistaking me for just any other heterosexual woman they are proving a point that I try to make everyday of my life.
We're all humans first. :D
Still, I guess it can be a bit frustrating because I have yet to get hit on by a woman in the physical.
Then again I am the type that you would have to be semi aggressive with to gain any headway because I live in my own little world.

thedreamerin 03-07-2015 09:15 PM

Semi aggressive
 
By semi aggressive I mean You have to come up to me and say "Hey I think you're beautiful... " that gets my attention. Or at least you could say something along that vein. Just don't grab my butt, that will get you slapped, and don't stare at my boobs..

CherylNYC 03-08-2015 09:32 AM

It feels as if the older I get, the more invisible as a femme lesbian I become. First of all, I now own a car and I no longer ride my motorcycle everywhere full time, and year 'round. I did that until I was about 48 years old. Besides the fact that riding through winters in New York makes any person look bad-ass, (bad-ass woman=lesbian is often a safe assumption), my motorcycle and my helmet are bedecked with rainbow stickers. That's been my regular cue to the world for most of my adult life.

But it's not just the motorcycle. Something else has changed. I may look softer now, and for better or worse, I think I blend in better. My closest friend who has known me since I was in my mid twenties commented on it the other day. She said, "You look more and more like a straight girl. If I were meeting you for the first time I might not guess you were queer."

I don't like it, but I don't think I'm prepared to deliberately change anything about myself. At least not yet.

Martina 03-08-2015 09:54 AM

I have always looked straight and always refused to get the alternative haircut or go performatively feminine in ways that would have gotten me a second look from other queers -- because it's not me. It has sorta sucked to get that "you are not a dyke" look from women who weren't even born yet when I came out, but there is something about my gender presentation that is pretty core. I don't plan on changing it.

thedreamerin 03-08-2015 07:35 PM

I believe that
 
It is just beautiful that we don't have to change. :)

BombsiteBoudicca 03-09-2015 05:52 PM

two sides of the coin
 
i know this sounds old skool, but i'm rarely 'seen' unless i'm with a butch partner/date/friend. This is simultaneously extremely frustrating *and yet* gives me a little frisson of excitement. It's the thrill of being recognized...a very powerful- and empowering- feeling for those of us who are often mistaken as straight.

princessbelle 03-09-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BombsiteBoudicca (Post 976775)
i know this sounds old skool, but i'm rarely 'seen' unless i'm with a butch partner/date/friend. This is simultaneously extremely frustrating *and yet* gives me a little frisson of excitement. It's the thrill of being recognized...a very powerful- and empowering- feeling for those of us who are often mistaken as straight.

I don't know how this is "old skool" but i completely agree with your post. It IS frustrating to not be seen when alone or with other femmes. However, when with my butch...wow, what a feeling. I walk tall and proud. I know i'm seen by both straight folk and most importantly by gay folk.

I remember not too long ago being with Durx8 at the mall and we passed a couple of butch folk and they smiled at us and nodded. Point is, if i had been alone, i would not have received that smile or nod or even noticed. It feels GOOD to be included in the community!!!!

I'm not sure what butches feel like when walking with femmes, but this femme feels SEEN. And PROUD. :)

MsTinkerbelly 03-09-2015 06:11 PM

Still invisable, looking more like a middle aged woman every day. Lol, whatever that really means!

I used to think femme meant dresses and heals, but i came out late in life (38) and had no role models other than finding the old B-F site and reading about what a femme SHOULD look like. I finally learned to just be me, and i am much happier.

I get visability when I'm with my love, and I am content with that. ;)

Nat 03-10-2015 12:18 AM

One of the things I really have enjoyed about the reunions is the ability to be *understood* on sight by relative strangers, without necessarily having a date on my arm to queer me.

I've taken up the nod.

cutiefemme 03-10-2015 02:59 AM

I can't find an exciting butch. Once at a party two butches were debating if I was straight until I tried to dance with one of them but she already had a girlfriend. But sometimes I'm confident enough to turn my head and smile at a cute butch and then they notice me.

The_Lady_Snow 03-10-2015 06:37 AM

Work
 
I lose my visibility at work, doesn't bother me till it does.

femmeandstrong 03-10-2015 06:57 AM

Invisible can be so peaceful and my friends know how to find me...

BombsiteBoudicca 03-11-2015 03:55 AM

head/heart
 
I totally understand the peacefulness that can come with invisibility, but I guess the older I get the more I want to scream "HERE!!!! OVER HERE!!!!"
The feminist in me (well, every bit of me is feminist but anyway....) resents the fact I need another human being to publicly define me. Yet I know deep down I need my butch/daddy to feel truly me. My head may be conflicted but my heart and panties love it ; )

Nat 03-11-2015 05:39 PM

Invisibility gets on my nerves the second someone asks me if I have a husband or references gay people as though I am straight or when a straight woman expects me to drool over some male celebrity with them. I outed myself on the first day of my current job because one of my coworkers was talking about a doctor and she said, "you know he's *whisper* gay, right?" I was all "me too." Maybe it would be smarter to keep silent - but I just don't want to participate in bullshit.

Femminator 05-03-2015 11:54 AM

I find my invisibilty comforting at times, and annoying at others. I want it to be known that I am beautiful and proud to not be open for male gaze, that I am with a Butch of my choosing and I also am Queer. During dangerous times, I can pass and it's kinda nice because I can protect myself.

Angeltoes 11-14-2015 12:50 AM

I see tons of cute butches when I'm out and about, but I get really weird responses when I try to flirt. I think I must look like a church girl from the suburbs. I still remember the one time a very attractive butch tried to flirt with me and I blew it off because I was upset about something. I think that memory will haunt me for the rest of my life..lol.

JDeere 11-15-2015 12:09 AM

My poor girlfriend is "invisible" but I don't think she has an issue with it or not, I am trying to get her into the realm of the butch-femme dance and such. IDK if I will succeed but at least I can try.

I read the femme's stories in here and it sounds a bit like how my g/f is perceived outside of the comfort of her home.

Mormegil 11-15-2015 09:38 PM

Well I know im invisible , since Im 31 and not one woman ever has approached me or flirted...and im butch and theres a gay community here lol . So dont feel bad about being invisible i know what you mean. Iam so over being invisible.


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