Originally Posted by Cyclopea (Post 18864)

YAY I Won!!!
Yeah, our frames of reference for "hard rock" are very different. But thanks for the historic info, I had forgotten all about Fanny. That's so cool that you have one of their 45's. Have you ever had opportunity to listen to one of their albums? I haven't. Nor the GTO's.
One time years ago I spent hours sorting through boxes of "one-dollar" albums and found a mint copy of the GTOs. Unfortunately the jerk-off who owned the store decided to refuse to sell it to me because he "didn't realize he had it". Uh, yeah, that's what dollar boxes of records in used record stores are for, jackass, finding a gem. I never went back.
Hope he enjoyed his record. He lost a TON of business over it and must have pissed off a lot of collectors because he soon went out of business. The landlord kept his stock in leu of rent and probably sold it en mass at auction.
Bad karma!
So I get a Fanny album as a prize, right???
ha!
:rockband:

Originally Posted by Mindy (Post 19284)

I love music! When I was a kid, I played piano, but I wasn't real good at it. I took up guitar and liked it but then decided I'd also like to try bass guitar. I fell in love! I learned how to play and I can play pretty well. I had 3 different bands ask me to play in their bands, but I either didn't like their band or didn't like the music they played. One had a terrible singer and I just couldn't play in a band where I couldn't stand to hear the singer, one was a country band and they played that whiney, twangy stuff I don't like, the 3rd we were actually working on getting an all gal band together but couldn't find a drummer, male or female. Then when I moved to Illinois it seemed I never got time to practice and ended up selling it. I miss my bass, a lot!

Originally Posted by Mindy (Post 20083)

I have always, always, loved Prince.

YouTube- Prince Perform His Latest Hit"Crimson and Clover"live on Ellen!

Originally Posted by WILDCAT (Post 19869)

So, what is your "point of reference"? I suppose we all "categorize" in our own dividual ways. I started REALLY listening to music at age five. Which would be 1962. So, I initially listened to mostly '50's music then - some '40's I'm sure. And then followed right on through the 60's, 70's and into the early 80's - where I then took somewhat of a "hiatus".
I guess my point of reference for "hard rock" would begin with Sabbath, maybe Zeppelin...

But, during these decades there was soft rock, (pop), hard rock, southern rock, country rock, heavy metal rock, GRUNGE, and then what I refer to as the "Flocking Seagulls" electronic era moving in during the eighties.

From 1970 on things with regards to women rockers radically changed from year to year. Although there were front women rock singers, such as Janis Joplin and Gracie Slick in the 60's... which one was consider bluesy and the other psychedelic...

The band GTO's (to me) was way a head of it's time, but, reminds me of female valley girl music, with a light punk twist. But, if you had Zappa as your buddy and stayed with him... (?) Anything was possible. The band with Kelly Johnson you posted was incredible guitar rock, but you'll notice that in the video she has a "Heart" band t-shirt on. (I think that is what it is.)
Oh, I agree the GTO's were pretty talentless, but they did make a pretty big cultural impact at the time? But they were just Zappa groupies, for sure. Historically significant fluff.

Heart was popular from the mid-70's on... until folks had major issues with Ann Wilson's weight. (Marketing, promoting female sexuality.) Which was a fucking shame - with all of that talent. They actually turned to Nancy Wilson "sexually" during this time and they became corporate victims to what they believed in musically. (This they know and state themselves.)

Fanny was from '70 - '75. The "Runnaways were from '75 or so to 1980. Joan Jett broke off from that band and her song "I Love Rock and Roll", wasn't until maybe 1982. Now, folks think she was the first heavy female rocker. She wasn't. Yes, she was the bad "tough ass" here at this time, when in fact others paved the way. (In fact twenty-something record labels at this time for solo Joan even DECLINED to sign HER on... and thus the "Blackheart" label was born because of who she was close to.)
Girlschool predates the Runaways and was much more successful and well-known, probably in every country but the U.S.
They were serious players, wildly talented and had a long career playing stadiums. The reason Kelly Johnson was wearing a Heart Tshirt was because that video had excerpts from her entire 30 year career. GIRLSCHOOL ROCKS

My last trivia question is a woman who was in the early 70's who I believe was an earlier style to Joan... You don't mean Suzi Quatro do you? (I cannot speak for Joan, who her immediate mentors were when she was just a teenager or whatever age...) But, the one I am referring to was accepted abroad WAY before she was accepted here. WE were just fucked up here regarding women "rockers". So true! The "feminists" movement was ROUGH here with regards to music and rock. But, this woman finally got some hits here (more later 70's now), and became popular for "another reason"...

Then the "glamour" rock started in the late 70's too and there was already "disco". Although bands like the Stones and such were still around, and Bruce, etc... I did not follow THAT MUSIC through the second half of the '80's much. But, I was living in N.Y.C. then and really caught up just in city life and all that has to offer. (Broadway, obscure performances, street musicians (I LOVED), etc...)

Alternative rock became wide open too during this time. (Not that is wasn't ALWAYS around in some form or another.) Things just were so wide open in the late 80's musically, and now is to this day.
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So, yes... I have "Mother's Pride" album by Fanny. (I think still.) You'll take that over the new hybrid car that you had won...?! OK! No problem!!
Ha- I'll sell the car and buy all the albums I want! *insert maniacal laugh smilie*


WILDCAT!

:guitar:

*P.S. Sorry I got Scorp and you mixed up here in two of my posts. Plus, that BITES you didn't get that historical album for a dollar. (What did you DO? Tell him it was valuable?! Or did he "catch it" when you went to buy it?)Lord no, I did not tell him it was a good find, he figured it out...bastid.

**Plus, just saw today you have a music thread about chair dancing? I want to check that out! Enjoy! It's a silly thread of fun (?) nonsense

Originally Posted by WILDCAT (Post 23257)

Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.oh yeah, deep purple, for sure. always loved their version of "river deep, mountain high".

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.
Cool. my first live concert in memory was blood, sweat and tears. and my mind was blown!
Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
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I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?They are totally cool and slightly "before my time". So glad you posted about them!

More to follow!
Keep up the good work!

WILDCAT

*Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!

Originally Posted by NJFemmie (Post 24910)

Originally Posted by Selenay (Post 25490)

Originally Posted by Duchess (Post 25498)

This is my favorite song for a jam session with me on piano. :grandpiano:

YouTube- Samba Magic - Basement Jaxx (high quality)

Originally Posted by WILDCAT (Post 26151)

I could SO feel you here! Is this the song (or version) that you would "jam" with at home - or wherever... or are you actually IN this recording?

This is "SO SMOOTH CLASSY" YOU!!! I can totally see and feel it! (Very clean it is!! Musical terms, OF COURSE!!)

Thanks!

:grandpiano:

WILDCAT