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DapperButch 11-07-2012 05:35 PM

Happy Obama Day!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi (Post 694635)

I am presuming the deer caught in the headlights look in his eyes was the result of realizing he is going to have to face those in the new world order who invested gazillions in him and its not gonna be pretty.


Completely agree. He looked pale, empty eyes, and disconnected from his body. He looked like he had just came out of some sort of trauma (like he had just walked away from a car accident), and was in utter shock and feeling numb. I concur on how he looked and what was worrying him.

Greyson 11-07-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Okiebug61 (Post 694928)
We no longer have "Affirmative Action" in Oklahoma. What bugs the hell out me is that a Woman wrote the bill that was passed last night :-(.

Thanks for mentioning this. I read a blurb on this somewhere this morning but I decided not to post it because I was not aware of it until this morning. I know I will be searching the internet to learn more about it.

My initial reaction was one of disbelief. I try not to stereotype but honestly my mind did go to "It's the South......."

Okiebug61 11-07-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyson (Post 694930)
Thanks for mentioning this. I read a blurb on this somewhere this morning but I decided not to post it because I was not aware of it until this morning. I know I will be searching the internet to learn more about it.

My initial reaction was one of disbelief. I try not to stereotype but honestly my mind did go to "It's the South......."

You are correct. Everytime any part of the nation goes forward we go 2 steps backwards, because we have to hang on to our Traditional Oklahoma Values. (Puke).

We now have an open gun carrying law so saddle up your horse and slap your six shooter on your hip it's going to get scary.

Gentle Tiger 11-07-2012 05:56 PM

Boy was I ever surrounded by unhappy people at work today. I work in Romney zone. Several that really do not like the President.

Needless to say I was quite happy; along with a few others. :D

girl_dee 11-07-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentle Tiger (Post 694944)
Boy was I ever surrounded by unhappy people at work today. I work in Romney zone. Several that really do not like the President.

Needless to say I was quite happy; along with a few others. :D



That's what happened to me 4 years ago. Grown adults went in their offices and shut the door when i had the inauguration on.

i sat there all by myself watching !

Martina 11-07-2012 06:00 PM

I have read that conservatives prioritize fairness over compassion. They are both good values. But that makes them more sensitive to issues like welfare or affirmative action.

They tend to be more frightened by difference. That has been found in a number of studies. They are less open, less adventurous, less interested in others outside their own group. Purity is a a value that resonates for them. So that is rife for exploitation by racists.

When I was growing up, conservatives were against intervention in foreign wars, which was something I can get behind. They were more "Don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you," something I can get behind as well.

The eighties and later Moral Majority conservatives who tried to impose their own standards and values on others -- those folks were NOT like the conservatives I grew up with.

The reason conservatism became so extreme was because white male privilege has come under attack since the sixties. So to fight back, they grabbed onto ideology -- Christian, racist, misogynistic ideology, which alienated a lot of otherwise conservative folks. That's what whites did when their privilege came under attack after the Civil War. They emphasized and elaborated on racist ideologies to justify Jim Crow laws and other restrictions on the freedoms of African Americans.

When I was young, conservatives weren't all that pro anything. They were more libertarian.

Linus 11-07-2012 06:03 PM

I saw this on Facebook (not sure if anyone posted it yet) and was curious what others thought:

http://www.syrlinus.com/wp-content/u...on-slavery.jpg

Kobi 11-07-2012 06:42 PM


Linus, that is a very interesting map comparison. Have to mull that over.

Sun 11-07-2012 06:51 PM

Update on the post I made last night re: Sheriffs race in Maricopa AZ :fastdraq:

Badass racist Joe Arpaio. Apparently some 480,000 votes were not counted and someone called the election. Many were early mail in votes. Looking forward to seeing the results. This is the Sheriff who is proud of his "Tent City" torture chamber.

Also open gun laws in AZ. Any idiot can get a gun. Nice place.

girl_dee 11-07-2012 06:52 PM

PLEASE lets get that maniac out of there. HOW is HE not in prison?!?!

Corkey 11-07-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus (Post 694957)
I saw this on Facebook (not sure if anyone posted it yet) and was curious what others thought:

http://www.syrlinus.com/wp-content/u...on-slavery.jpg


An accurate account of the red (confederate) states of America. For all we evolve, there are somethings that remain the same.

Gráinne 11-07-2012 07:27 PM

I may have posted this already, but it seems the last word:


Miss Scarlett 11-07-2012 08:12 PM

I think he was over confident and expecting an enormous voter backlash against Obama so losing came as a shock.

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Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 694929)
Completely agree. He looked pale, empty eyes, and disconnected from his body. He looked like he had just came out of some sort of trauma (like he had just walked away from a car accident), and was in utter shock and feeling numb. I concur on how he looked and what was worrying him.


Martina 11-07-2012 08:17 PM

Rachel is on fire tonight.

princessbelle 11-07-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina (Post 695060)
Rachel is on fire tonight.


(news to Republicans)

...."President Obama did win the electoral and popular vote, again. And...there really wasn't any chemicals of mass destruction, and there really is global warming, and we really did land on the moon"...

She's so enjoyable to watch. She is happy. Like all of us.


*Anya* 11-07-2012 08:26 PM

I TiVo'd Obama's speech because I had to go to bed last night.

I am struck by the folks listening: young, old, men, women, straight, lesbian, gay, trans, black, white, Hispanic, Asian and other ethnicities- a real rainbow coalition.

It is awesome to hear and see him be the true orator that he genuinely is and that I have not heard for a very long time.

tara_kerrie 11-07-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Okiebug61 (Post 694933)
You are correct. Everytime any part of the nation goes forward we go 2 steps backwards, because we have to hang on to our Traditional Oklahoma Values. (Puke).

We now have an open gun carrying law so saddle up your horse and slap your six shooter on your hip it's going to get scary.

Arkansas is the same way. I do not think that Arkansas will ever move forward.
Although the medical marijuana act wasnt rejected by as big of a margin as i thought. 52% against 48% for

Sun 11-07-2012 09:01 PM

Reporting from Tent City Central
 
Huffington Post is all over this story

BREAKING: Arizona Outrage Over Unprecedented Provisional Ballot Mayhem; Record Latino Vote Marred

People are protesting and waiting at the election office until every vote is counted. Note that this comes on top of an ongoing demonstration protesting Arpaio's brutality that caused the death of a woman in Tent City who was denied medication for diabetes. The womans family was awarded nothing in a lawsuit. The people are outraged. There is no justice here.

Sun 11-07-2012 09:35 PM

DeeDee Blase of The Tequila Party reports:
 
This is unreal. Nazi's and KKK on the streets. This is the old West at its worst.

Seriously if I were not seeing it I would have a hard time believing it.

Another article:


It is Going to Take the DOJ or a Conservative Candidate to Oust Sheriff Joe Arpaio with the Archaic Tea Party Stronghold Here


This is really all about Democracy. If this vote is stolen from the people and this criminal Sheriff is allowed to stay in office well we are all in serious trouble. If the win is legitimate, so be it. The Tea Party poured a lot of money into this race. But KKK and Neo Nazi's should not be running this state. People are fighting for life here.

Martina 11-07-2012 11:57 PM

Rachel's intro tonight:
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We are not going to have a Supreme Court that overturns Roe versus Wade. There will be no more Antonin Scalia’s and Samuel Alito’s added to this court. We are not going to repeal health reform. Nobody is going to kill Medicare and make old people in this generation or any other generation fight it out on the open market to try to get themselves health care. We are not going to do that.

We are not going to give a twenty percent tax cut to millionaires and billionaires and expect programs like food stamps and kid’s health insurance to cover the cost of that tax cut. We’re not going to make you clear it with your boss if you want to get birth control from the insurance plan that you are on. We are not going to redefine rape. We are not going to amend the United States Constitution to stop gay people from getting married. We are not going to double Guantanamo. We are not eliminating the Department of Energy or the Department of Education or Housing at the Federal level.

We are not going to spend two trillion dollars on the military that the military does not want. We are not scaling back on student loans because the country’s new plan is that you should borrow money from your parents. We are not vetoing the Dream Act. We are not self-deporting. We are not letting Detroit go bankrupt. We are not starting a trade war with China on inauguration day in January. We are not going to have as a President a man who once led a mob of friends to run down a scared gay kid, to hold him down and forcibly cut his hair off with a pair of scissors while that kid cried and screamed for help. And there was no apology, not ever. We are not going to have as Secretary of State John Bolton. We are not bringing Dick Cheney back. We are not going to have a foreign policy shop stocked with architects of the Iraq War. We are not going to do it. We had the choice to do that if we wanted to do that as a country. And we said “No” last night, loudly.




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