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JustJo 08-17-2010 06:26 AM

Here's a link to a wonderful op-ed piece in the NY Times about the Sufis...wish it was required reading for everyone in this country.

lipstixgal 08-17-2010 07:57 AM

I don't have anything against it..in fact I have Muslim friends and they are very nice to me and I'm a Jew by choice so I think that everyone should have the right to practice their religion no matter who they are..

Jo the piece you have in your link was very nice I enjoyed!!

afixer 08-17-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betenoire (Post 161564)
Further off topic. Obama was right - Five Guys has the best fucking burgers in the universe. Omg.


this is the truth.


this is worth repeating.

After the number of Americans killed by it,
I cannot abide by such a disrespectful act of building a McDonald's so close to the WTC!

turasultana 08-17-2010 09:29 AM

There's a 5 guys burgers in park slope brooklyn... I think I need to go again soon. :)

lipstixgal 08-17-2010 09:35 AM

Golly is there a five guys in NJ?? lol

Apocalipstic 08-17-2010 10:23 AM

If we are against building that Mosque, we should be against building any churches on what was formerly Sacred Ground for those Native People who came before the United States...Wal-marts too!

I think it is idiotic that this is even a subject, we allegedly have freedom of religion and division of church and state???

AND

The building is not on the Ground Zero site!!! how far away is OK? 5 blocks? 10?

Now people all over the country are freaking out about ANY Mosques being built.

SnackTime 08-17-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 176576)
If we are against building that Mosque, we should be against building any churches on what was formerly Sacred Ground for those Native People who came before the United States...Wal-marts too!

I think it is idiotic that this is even a subject, we allegedly have freedom of religion and division of church and state???

AND

The building is not on the Ground Zero site!!! how far away is OK? 5 blocks? 10?

Now people all over the country are freaking out about ANY Mosques being built.

Just like people freaking out in Rutherford County, because they want to build a Mosque in Murfreesboro!

I have no issue with building the new learning center. Just like you said, this center is not going to at Ground Zero

AtLast 08-17-2010 01:12 PM

Can you believe all the trash talk about Obama, the president of the US, making statements about the constitution? Oh, that's right, he isn't really a US citizen and ya' know he is really Muslim... Now this is getting all heated in teerms of the mid-term elections with the GOP/Tea Party wackos!! of course, these idiots believed that Iraq was behind 9/11.

It is actually a community center with a prayer room in it! This is so nuts! It is NOT a mosque!

It is times like these that I feel some shame about my country....

Apocalipstic 08-17-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 176666)
Can you believe all the trash talk about Obama, the president of the US, making statements about the constitution? Oh, that's right, he isn't really a US citizen and ya' know he is really Muslim... Now this is getting all heated in teerms of the mid-term elections with the GOP/Tea Party wackos!! of course, these idiots believed that Iraq was behind 9/11.

It is actually a community center with a prayer room in it! This is so nuts! It is NOT a mosque!

It is times like these that I feel some shame about my country....


Meeee toooooo!!!!!!!

All the talk of changing the Constitution they so love....

And even if it were a Mosque, I have a hard time understanding how it is going to sully the adult book stores and peep shows in its area, which AGAIN is not at ground zero.

:seeingstars::seeingstars:

I had no idea people were still so upset about FDR???

Apocalipstic 08-17-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SnackTime (Post 176628)
Just like people freaking out in Rutherford County, because they want to build a Mosque in Murfreesboro!

I have no issue with building the new learning center. Just like you said, this center is not going to at Ground Zero

Yeah, like Murfreesboro and Antioch are anywhere NEAR Ground Zero????

People are nuts!

They want to turn the Hickory Hollow Cinemas into a Mosque and people are upset about that too....I am fine with not building it, IF....they will also tear down the Wal-Mart on Charlotte built on the Native American Burial Ground, and EVERY church in Nashville...since every single one is built on what used to be Sacred Ground.

AtLast 08-17-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 176679)
Meeee toooooo!!!!!!!

All the talk of changing the Constitution they so love....

And even if it were a Mosque, I have a hard time understanding how it is going to sully the adult book stores and peep shows in its area, which AGAIN is not at ground zero.

:seeingstars::seeingstars:

I had no idea people were still so upset about FDR???

Oh, yeah, still mad at FDR... WTF??

They want a constitution based upon only their values.

Now, idiots are talking about the property in question being hit by landing gear (or something liket his) during the 9/11 attack...

To me, rising above this kind of mentality is a tribute to our diverse society. The idea of having different cultures and religions represented near ground zero points to healing and keeping with our diverse identities as a country. and And it sounds like a community center there might just help the neighborhood out!

I wish some of the families of Muslims that were killed that day would speak up along with other families representing all the faiths represented by workers (and first responders lost) and the general public that day. The WTC was a symbol of what is good about the US in many ways (not others).

Thinking about how this center being built could also demonstrate how US Muslims are NOT part of terrorist factions among their faith in the world.

UGH... is it true that somewhere there is a group of jerks wanting to do a public burning of the Koran to demonstrate against this? Oh, and the guy that wants a ban on ALL mosques being built in the US... there's a piece of work!

Soon 08-17-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 176762)
UGH... is it true that somewhere there is a group of jerks wanting to do a public burning of the Koran to demonstrate against this? Oh, and the guy that wants a ban on ALL mosques being built in the US... there's a piece of work!

(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam.

Outlaw 08-17-2010 04:14 PM

From a friend who still works just a few blocks from the WTC site - The piece entitled "Hallowed Ground" showcases some of what we would see on the walk from from the subway to the office.

MsDemeanor 08-17-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow (Post 176770)
(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam.

I wonder how many of these folks have family or friends who have done time in Iraq. You know, that place where we've killed thousands of American solders and tens of thousands of Iraqis and blow billions of desperately needed dollars. You know, that place where we're doing all of this to help Muslims. Fucking morons.

AtLast 08-17-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor (Post 176821)
I wonder how many of these folks have family or friends who have done time in Iraq. You know, that place where we've killed thousands of American solders and tens of thousands of Iraqis and blow billions of desperately needed dollars. You know, that place where we're doing all of this to help Muslims. Fucking morons.

Very GOOD point! What is it you say about sharing this planet with morons? GAWD!! Sometimes, I just can't believe the level of ignorance of some factions of the US population today!

All of the families of those fighting (and have) in Iraq really should be pissed off at this ignorance! Talk about no respect for our military and what troops are going through and have for years, now!!

AtLast 08-17-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow (Post 176770)
(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam.

Well, I guess they use the preferred Islamic spelling.... my bad. This is so disturbing and so damn dumb!

MsMerrick 08-17-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlaw (Post 176774)
From a friend who still works just a few blocks from the WTC site - The piece entitled "Hallowed Ground" showcases some of what we would see on the walk from from the subway to the office.

Well worth repeating !
A Community Center, not unlike a YMCA or a YMHA, is what is being built btw, not a "Mosque"

MsDemeanor 08-17-2010 07:14 PM

I like the point made last night by Keith Olbermann - there's already a mosque 4 blocks from the WTC site, and it's been there since before the WTC was even built!!!

Outlaw 08-17-2010 07:40 PM

Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10
 

Toughy 08-17-2010 08:16 PM

I keep trying to remember the 'average American' who has never walked down the street and heard at least 2 and usually 3 languages on a routine basis.........

or spent every friday night family dinner where at least 8 languages could be spoken at the dinner table...


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