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NotAnAverageGuy 12-12-2009 12:34 AM

Belle,

remember I spoke with you about the problems here with BARC?

Below is a news link from our local paper, Houston hired a new chief at BARC, I am not sure if you are going to be able to read the comments but they are very harsh to say the least.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6765474.html

NotAnAverageGuy 12-13-2009 11:03 PM

2 dog disease I hate most,

PARVO and Distemper

My best friend is going to have to put her almost 1 year old shih tzu down because of distemper. I know there is no cure and vaccines don't always help.

Why if they can cure certain diseases can't they cure these two?

Andrew, Jr. 12-14-2009 02:37 PM

Notanaverageguy,

I have no idea of why destemper and parvo are not curable yet. It just makes my heart melt when I see this. I have no clue as to why ppl won't get their pets vac. for these because of how horrible the disease itself is. :schnauzer::doghead::playingcat::junesmiley::cat:

violaine 12-14-2009 03:35 PM

i read the article you posted on barc- and i really am hopeful some positive changes will transpire for houston animals with the new chief . i could not read the comments, although i would have been interested in community feedback.

on topic of diseases such as parvo and distemper, a site that's been round for quite a while:

http://www.vetinfo.com/dencyclopedia/deindex.html

:bulldog:

hope you are all keeping well.

best,
belle

Kimbo 12-14-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy (Post 21209)
2 dog disease I hate most,

PARVO and Distemper

My best friend is going to have to put her almost 1 year old shih tzu down because of distemper. I know there is no cure and vaccines don't always help.

Why if they can cure certain diseases can't they cure these two?

Did the dog get vaccines? That is the best chance they have--I know they are not without error though.

I don't say this to be an ass but if she did not get the dog his basic shots,--and these 2 are contained in the basic puppy shots, then I would be really pissed at my friend for not being a responsible dog owner. Sorry but I'm an ass about this stuff. http://www.vetinfo.com/puppy-vaccines.html

--I'll never be as sweet as Belle!

Kimbo 12-14-2009 04:25 PM

I might add that both of those, distemper and parvo, are virus's like the flu. Just like the flu we need to get a shot every year to give us the best chance for not getting it but virus's are not cured in the human population.

Andrew, Jr. 12-14-2009 04:32 PM

Thanks for the info Kim. I didn't know they were virus's. That makes me even sadder for the pets.

Belle, I can't get into that link. Is it the right one or am I doing something wrong? Let me know. Thanks love.

Inuus 12-14-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimbo (Post 21488)
Did the dog get vaccines? That is the best chance they have--I know they are not without error though.

I don't say this to be an ass but if she did not get the dog his basic shots,--and these 2 are contained in the basic puppy shots, then I would be really pissed at my friend for not being a responsible dog owner. Sorry but I'm an ass about this stuff. http://www.vetinfo.com/puppy-vaccines.html
--I'll never be as sweet as Belle!

OH I hear ya! I am an ass about that stuff as well. My friends all turn to me for advice about their dogs when they are sick or having training probs. I tell them right up front. You want me to help then you better be prepared for what I might say and I dont mix words!

One other thing that just chaps my ass is people who DONT get yearly heartworm checks and DONT use heartworm medicine ALL year long. Its an easily preventable disease with the monthly meds

NotAnAverageGuy 12-14-2009 05:44 PM

Yeah the dog had her shots but I know nothing is fool proof and vaccines are not a cure all.

Kimbo 12-15-2009 12:46 AM

I learned a really hard lesson when I had PanLeuk go through my kitten room...the kitties would be playing one minute and then they would vomit and within hours they were dead, it's horrific to watch. It comes out in the dirt around here, some years it's devastating and other years we would see nothing. Once the kittens are exposed they go fast and very rarely do you save one. Once the outbreak is over everything must be sterilized. These kittens are to young to have shots..they say most kittens are exposed in their first year of life.

Also if you've ever seen a cat suffer with an upper respiratory--it's another tough thing to watch--The FVRCP shot is a damn good investment.


http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2139&aid=222

NotAnAverageGuy 12-15-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimbo (Post 21640)
I learned a really hard lesson when I had PanLeuk go through my kitten room...the kitties would be playing one minute and then they would vomit and within hours they were dead, it's horrific to watch. It comes out in the dirt around here, some years it's devastating and other years we would see nothing. Once the kittens are exposed they go fast and very rarely do you save one. Once the outbreak is over everything must be sterilized. These kittens are to young to have shots..they say most kittens are exposed in their first year of life.

Also if you've ever seen a cat suffer with an upper respiratory--it's another tough thing to watch--The FVRCP shot is a damn good investment.


http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2139&aid=222


I have seen this while working at the SPCA and such with the kittens as well as other shelters, it's freaking horrible.

FeminineAllure 12-17-2009 06:14 PM

http://action.humanesociety.org/site...?ecard_id=1261

Be The Agent Of Change

Thanks!

Kimbo 12-17-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeminineAllure (Post 22670)

I want that job!!

violaine 12-19-2009 10:57 AM

wishing each amazing soul a gentle weekend - thank you for all that you do in the name of animal stewardship :beachkids:

:cooking:


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pro...ewardship-bill

NotAnAverageGuy 12-19-2009 12:12 PM

Anyone donating to shelters and rescues for the holiday this year?

Andrew, Jr. 12-20-2009 10:34 AM

Every Christmas I take to the county humane society a case of cat & dog food, treats, toys, blankets, towels, and rawhides. It is the very least I can do. I witnessed first hand what happens. That is why I can't work there. It just tears me up.

Andrew

Kimbo 12-20-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy (Post 23325)
Anyone donating to shelters and rescues for the holiday this year?

This year I am going to be helping out Pasado's Safe Haven on Christmas--Home for the Howlidays..We did part of it yesterday

http://www.pasadosafehaven.org/articles/09.12.12/hfth/hfth.html

I think for me it will be the best Christmas I've had in years....

Happy Holidays to all of you and to your critters too!

NotAnAverageGuy 12-20-2009 03:31 PM

Same to you Kimbo

I donate to my Texas glider rescue around this time, I up the amount for the holidays, but I try to donate at least 7 times a year (7 is my lucky number). The small amount I donate, not on holidays, goes to get the males fixed and to the other vet funds needed for the sanctuary gliders and for other food and supplies.

Kimbo 12-20-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy (Post 23708)
Same to you Kimbo

I donate to my Texas glider rescue around this time, I up the amount for the holidays, but I try to donate at least 7 times a year (7 is my lucky number). The small amount I donate, not on holidays, goes to get the males fixed and to the other vet funds needed for the sanctuary gliders and for other food and supplies.

I am glad to hear you do this. It is not how much we do or give it is that we do it--that we have passion for life beyond ourselves--it's so very important to me and it sounds like to you as well. I commend you for putting your money and your time towards the sugar gliders--It may seem small to you but it feels HUGE to me and I am sure to those gliders who benefit from you. You're alright in my book!!

NotAnAverageGuy 12-20-2009 03:49 PM

Thanks Kimbo, yeah it may not seem much but it is HUGE, after I see the aftermath of what people do to these animals and why they ended up in sanctuary care in the first place.

FeminineAllure 12-20-2009 04:00 PM

Last year I adopted a cat for a year for my Dad for Christmas. I hung the picture of the animal on his refrigerator.
This year with the 5 or more ferals and a kitten out back it is costing me a small fortune. Their shelter, the igloo and blankets and beds, wet and dry food, cat milk. They are my financial focus for right now. And I also need to trap them soon and take each to the vet which ranges from 50$ to 85$ dollars a cat to be neutered or spayed, all shots, deworming, any medical care. And god forbid if they have feline aids or leukemia they put them to sleep so they do not infect the rest of the colony.

For gifts this is a great site>http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

And just by clicking on their site daily sponsers pay for food and care for a rescued animal living in a shelter or sanctuary.

NotAnAverageGuy 12-20-2009 04:03 PM

I also use GoodSearch, where you can designate a charity and each time you search something, a small donation goes to that charity.

Kimbo 12-20-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeminineAllure (Post 23719)
Last year I adopted a cat for a year for my Dad for Christmas. I hung the picture of the animal on his refrigerator.
This year with the 5 or more ferals and a kitten out back it is costing me a small fortune. Their shelter, the igloo and blankets and beds, wet and dry food. They are my financial focus for right now.

For gifts this is a great site>http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

And just by clicking on their site daily sponsers pay for food and care!

I'm glad you are there for them, your dedication inspires me. I know the financial impact, but I also know the rewards. I wish you and your ferals a very happy holiday.

I have to take patrol over again in my neighborhood now that my critter trapping companion is expecting a baby.

FeminineAllure 12-20-2009 05:11 PM

I finished some shopping up on The Animal Rescue Site and..."Your purchase will give or help:


70.0 bowls of food" How awesome is that!!! More things in this world should be Win Win.

violaine 12-21-2009 02:27 PM

:bouquet:

if the weather is bad where you are- very cold- a simple and very warm/durable/inexpensive house for outside animals can be made from a large styrofoam cooler turned upside down.

cut a hole in one size, and shipping tape/secure the top [which will be on the bottom if this will create a larger inside space]. for easy clean up, place a large liner of some sort on the bottom- tarp, vinyl, or plastic.

photo:

http://www.our-happy-cat.com/feral-a...or-winter.html

NotAnAverageGuy 12-21-2009 09:29 PM

I am seeing an ungodly amount of animals being sold on craigslist, about 95% of them are from BYB's or people who can't take care of their animals anymore but the other 5% percent are legit rescues and shelters.

This is very unsetteling to me. Anyone else find this appaling?

Andrew, Jr. 12-22-2009 12:57 PM

NotAnAverageGuy, :stillheart:

I think it is horrible to sell any animal on Craigslist or Ebay or any list for that matter. I just cannot imagine anyone doing something like that. It is just beyond my comprehension. Some people should never get pets. I believe that all animals have souls. I could careless what anyone says about that. I believe that. They are a creation from God, and to be respected as such.

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.:dogwalking::bigladybug::playingcat::bal lcat::goat::floatbee:

Peace.

:dog:

Sachita 12-26-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommi (Post 15571)
I know Melamine hit the news about our pets food. Sometimes other things don't make the headlines, and critters suffer.

Diamond Pet Foods Announces Recall of Premium Edge Adult Cat and Premium Edge Hairball Cat Food

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - On September 23, Diamond Pet Foods issued a voluntary recall for Premium Edge Finicky Adult Cat and Premium Edge Hairball cat because they have the potential to produce Thiamine Deficiency. Today’s announcement provides additional information from the company’s posted announcement of September 23 when the initial recall information was provided.

Thiamine is essential for cats. Symptoms of deficiency displayed by an affected cat can be gastrointestinal or neurological in nature. At the first stage the cat may show decreased appetite, salivation, vomiting, and weight loss. Later, neurologic signs can develop, which may include ventriflexion (bending towards the floor) of the neck, wobbly walking, circling, falling, and seizures. These ultimately may result in the death of the animal if left untreated. If your cat has consumed the recalled product and has these symptoms, please contact your veterinarian. "

Entire press release, and states affected can be seen @ http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm192404.htm


You know I don't think this is the first time they've been recalled. This company has had trouble. It's hard to find a good pet food these days. I use to use Wellness Core and switched to Taste of The Wild. It turned out to be better and cheaper. When you have as many dogs as I do it's expensive to feed everyone but its even more expensive to have huge vet bills. I'm thankful I don't have many vet bills.

Sachita 12-26-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy (Post 24263)
I am seeing an ungodly amount of animals being sold on craigslist, about 95% of them are from BYB's or people who can't take care of their animals anymore but the other 5% percent are legit rescues and shelters.

This is very unsetteling to me. Anyone else find this appaling?

when they allowed re-homing fees, which should be a good thing to insure a second thought, it opened the door for people looking to make a fast buck. $100.00 for an animal they picked up somewhere and might have even stolen.

I think it sucks yet at the same time I have found excellent homes for animals I adopt out but i take extra steps and make sure they are going to a good home. I follow up and give them the option to bring the dog back should things not work out.

I have 2 adorable kittens that need homes if anyone is looking for sweet indoor cats.

NotAnAverageGuy 12-26-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sachita (Post 25988)
when they allowed re-homing fees, which should be a good thing to insure a second thought, it opened the door for people looking to make a fast buck. $100.00 for an animal they picked up somewhere and might have even stolen.

I think it sucks yet at the same time I have found excellent homes for animals I adopt out but i take extra steps and make sure they are going to a good home. I follow up and give them the option to bring the dog back should things not work out.

I have 2 adorable kittens that need homes if anyone is looking for sweet indoor cats.

The excuses I see as to why they can't take care of their animal is the reason I don't like CL's policies.

Inuus 12-26-2009 07:36 PM

I use Taste Of The Wild as well. Works much better for my dog. her coat is so much softer, she sheds less and umm not to be gross but she poops less and more firm. Seems like its easier for her to digest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sachita (Post 25986)
You know I don't think this is the first time they've been recalled. This company has had trouble. It's hard to find a good pet food these days. I use to use Wellness Core and switched to Taste of The Wild. It turned out to be better and cheaper. When you have as many dogs as I do it's expensive to feed everyone but its even more expensive to have huge vet bills. I'm thankful I don't have many vet bills.


Inuus 12-26-2009 07:39 PM

It is annoying. I cruise CL every day several times a day looking for ads to flag. People just get smart and dont put a rehoming fee price on their ads they just list what they have and say contact me for more details rehoming fee applies. I have seen people on there too report others they know who just got a dog from them for free or small fee only to resell it on CL. Its hard its annoying but I still go in there several times a day to "police" what I can

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy (Post 24263)
I am seeing an ungodly amount of animals being sold on craigslist, about 95% of them are from BYB's or people who can't take care of their animals anymore but the other 5% percent are legit rescues and shelters.

This is very unsetteling to me. Anyone else find this appaling?


Diavolo 12-26-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimbo (Post 23703)
This year I am going to be helping out Pasado's Safe Haven on Christmas--Home for the Howlidays..We did part of it yesterday

http://www.pasadosafehaven.org/articles/09.12.12/hfth/hfth.html

I think for me it will be the best Christmas I've had in years....

Happy Holidays to all of you and to your critters too!

Pasado's made some serious mistakes during Katrina resulting in dogs being sent to a horder in Arkansas where they ultimately died. They were too interested in publicity and forgot about the animals. I think they mean well, but they dropped the ball and dogs died.

NotAnAverageGuy 12-26-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuus (Post 26001)
It is annoying. I cruise CL every day several times a day looking for ads to flag. People just get smart and dont put a rehoming fee price on their ads they just list what they have and say contact me for more details rehoming fee applies. I have seen people on there too report others they know who just got a dog from them for free or small fee only to resell it on CL. Its hard its annoying but I still go in there several times a day to "police" what I can

Flagging is one way to stop em but most of the time they come back and repost like you said, I am just sick of the excuses they hand out.

Andrew, Jr. 12-27-2009 01:38 PM

I just don't understand why corporate ppl think it's ok to get away with hurting animals. It isn't. It's wrong. We all know it is.

I just shake my head. What is this world coming too?

NotAnAverageGuy 12-27-2009 08:31 PM

IAMS tests on animals, makes me sick

Belle,

how long does change take when it comes to things like BARC?

Andrew, Jr. 12-28-2009 11:16 AM

Alot of the cosmetics and perfume/cologne companies do so as well.

Medical schools also train doctors on animals. I am not sure if the animals are living at the time.

I just enjoy animals. They are my companions in life. I would be lost without them.

IttyBittyFem 12-28-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr. (Post 26674)
I just enjoy animals. They are my companions in life. I would be lost without them.

LOVE this - it says it all!!!

IrishGrrl 12-28-2009 12:23 PM

New Puppy
 
I got a new puppy on Dec 13th from the aspca. She is 3 months old, a lab/shepard mix. 5 days later she had what I thought was a cold. Took her to the vet, and the vet says she either has kennel cough, or Distemper..but she cant tell which becouse if she tests her now, she will turn up postive since she was just vaccinated. Vet gave her some meds, but she's done with them now, and still sick. Eyes have discharge, nasal discharge,sneezing, occasional coughing still. Her appetite isnt very good, not drinking much water, but eliminating fine..no loose stool. She has a follow up visit tomorrow, but I"m wondering if there is something more the vet can do. I hope it's not distemper..I'll just die.

Advice?
How do I get her to eat? I've been fixing boiled chicken and rice for her, which she eats some of..but trying to get her to drink more water.

NotAnAverageGuy 12-28-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishGrrl (Post 26702)
I got a new puppy on Dec 13th from the aspca. She is 3 months old, a lab/shepard mix. 5 days later she had what I thought was a cold. Took her to the vet, and the vet says she either has kennel cough, or Distemper..but she cant tell which becouse if she tests her now, she will turn up postive since she was just vaccinated. Vet gave her some meds, but she's done with them now, and still sick. Eyes have discharge, nasal discharge,sneezing, occasional coughing still. Her appetite isnt very good, not drinking much water, but eliminating fine..no loose stool. She has a follow up visit tomorrow, but I"m wondering if there is something more the vet can do. I hope it's not distemper..I'll just die.

Advice?
How do I get her to eat? I've been fixing boiled chicken and rice for her, which she eats some of..but trying to get her to drink more water.

The houston aspca? You might have to feed her through a syringe to get anything down here, basically force feed. My best friend had to deal with this many a times, you can buy the big syringes at like Tractor Supply Co. or maybe a PETSmart or Petco. I pray it is not distemper, if it is than the ASPCA is at fault for not giving the dog the needed vaccinations for having a dog in the kennels there. If she gets worse I suggest taking her to an Emergency Vet in the area, maybe they can help more.


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