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Corkey 05-25-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cane (Post 113666)
You've been talking about finding pants with high weists for tall people, but what about the opposite, does anybody know of a good site with clothes for short guys? Not very concerned with brands but quality is really important to me. I usually get my suits made especially for at the tailors but that is really expensive, and I would like to have another option.

LLBean.com, excellent size choices.

AtLast 11-03-2010 09:08 PM

In the market for a new tux. I do wear them fairly often, I have found and think investing in a more well-made one is a good idea. I like to go to all the formals during the Holidays and I plan on going to the next ReUnion.

I can't go nuts on price, but think I can find a good deal on some of the better brands and fabric. Anyone have suggestions about this? I might go double-breasted, but have to see when trying them on. I want a more light weight tux. Thinking classic cuts are best as I will wear it with different ties, vests, etc and hope to get good wear out of it.

I do want to buy it where it can be fitted and altered right there. There is always the men's Warehouse, I guess. But, maybe some of you have other suggestions?

Tcountry 11-03-2010 09:34 PM

At Last...
I dont know about where you are from but here a lot of bridal shops have great selection of tux's and of course measure and alter there...

Thinker 11-03-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 220289)
In the market for a new tux. I do wear them fairly often, I have found and think investing in a more well-made one is a good idea. I like to go to all the formals during the Holidays and I plan on going to the next ReUnion.

I can't go nuts on price, but think I can find a good deal on some of the better brands and fabric. Anyone have suggestions about this? I might go double-breasted, but have to see when trying them on. I want a more light weight tux. Thinking classic cuts are best as I will wear it with different ties, vests, etc and hope to get good wear out of it.

I do want to buy it where it can be fitted and altered right there. There is always the men's Warehouse, I guess. But, maybe some of you have other suggestions?

When I read stuff like this it kinda makes me drool. ;) I just love tuxedos!

I suggest (since you're investing for the long-term) a simple style that is timeless.

-100% wool
-one- or two-button
-notch lapel (but I think you, ALH, would really dig a shawl lapel)

Personally, I'd steer clear of a double-breasted.


Have fun!!

Wryly 11-03-2010 09:48 PM

also check out a men's formal rental place - you might be able to get a good quality used tux.

DomnNC 11-03-2010 09:50 PM

A few links for Western attire:

http://www.sheplers.com/

http://www.cowtowncowboy.com/content/39.htm

http://www.drysdales.com/

http://www.lebos.com/site/index.cfm

RockOn 11-03-2010 09:55 PM

I get my suits from Jos A Bank Men Clothiers ... anything else ---> it is men's area in Banana Republic.

BR has some great new style khakis in a variety of colors right now. If anyone is interested, they are Gavin and Dawson style and sit a little lower on the waist (actually they are down on your hips) than that of previous Gavin's and Dawson's. Very reasonably priced too. Side Note: With the horrible heat we had this past summer, I was an ice cream eating fool but the yardwork kept it so the ice cream was not affecting me. Well, I have not done any yardwork in a month and kept up the same intake on the ice cream. Just this week I had to go buy size 32 in the men's Dawson style because the size 31 became uncomfortable to button the top button. I had 3 buckets of ice cream in my buggy at the grocery store this past weekend. I was so proud of myself because I put every one of them back in the freezer just before I went to the check out line. Made me kind of sad. The dogs are disappointed too. We'll make it ... somehow ... I think. Just have to tighten up, suck it up and go on. LOL!

AtLast 11-04-2010 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinker (Post 220321)
When I read stuff like this it kinda makes me drool. ;) I just love tuxedos!

I suggest (since you're investing for the long-term) a simple style that is timeless.

-100% wool
-one- or two-button
-notch lapel (but I think you, ALH, would really dig a shawl lapel)

Personally, I'd steer clear of a double-breasted.


Have fun!!

Hummm... I have wondered about double breasted in terms of really wanting to get the wear out of it. The simple/timeless is what I do need. I have seen some shawl lapels that I like, but, dunno... maybe stay more traditional.

Probably go over to the Castro so I will feel comfy trying them on and being fitted. Although I am getting tired of the hustle and bustle of the Bay Area, for this it is good to be close to SF.

Thanks Thinker and Thanks All!!! Some good ideas!

RockOn 11-04-2010 05:27 AM

Agreeing with Thinker about the double-breasted. I have one db suit and won't buy another simply because it is aggravating and kind of uncomfortable to negotiate sitting down. I don't know - maybe it is just me.

waxnrope 11-04-2010 05:36 AM

I have one double breasted tic jacket. Has vents, a pair. No problem sitting. Hmmm. Not sure what to say. I'll try on some ... and see.

waxnrope 11-04-2010 05:42 AM

Anyone try out the high collared shirts? I really like the looks of these ... and, I have a long neck, so maybe this is good for me.
I've been cruising eBay lately. There's interesting stuff on the site. But since you can't try on .... don't know if that will be a problem. Can't tell the taper of most pants when they are folded, and can't determine the rise, either. Anyone shop on eBay?

swagger 11-10-2010 03:55 AM

jeans and t-shirts most of the time; either vintage, designer "factory" stores or ... well i'm just to mean to spend a fortune on clothes, but i have a tight eye for style and it matters to me. cargo pants. button down shirts. all from the men's department. customised, funky suit jackets. boots, sneakers, bare feet. men's pyjamas.

silentshout 11-10-2010 02:43 PM

I have a casual style. Just jeans and t-shirts. Sometimes button downs. I don't like shorts. Not sure why. If I get a career I'd really, really like to wear men suits. So that should be interesting.

LipstickLola 11-10-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 220449)
Anyone try out the high collared shirts? I really like the looks of these ... and, I have a long neck, so maybe this is good for me.
I've been cruising eBay lately. There's interesting stuff on the site. But since you can't try on .... don't know if that will be a problem. Can't tell the taper of most pants when they are folded, and can't determine the rise, either. Anyone shop on eBay?

I do! I learned to never buy from a seller with less than 99% positive feedback and? it matters to me that items of clothing come from a 'smoke free' environment, so that also matters in the description of clothing items.
Hope this helps, may you be victorious! :)

DapperButch 11-27-2010 10:54 AM

FYI - all posts cut/pasted with parts taken out 'cause too long otherwise and I don't think that any meaning was missed by doing so. Please let me know if any offense taken and I won't do it again! The dots (...) indicates where editing occurred

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 220289)
In the market for a new tux.....I might go double-breasted, but have to see when trying them on....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinker (Post 220321)
When I read stuff like this it kinda makes me drool. ;) I just love tuxedos!....Personally, I'd steer clear of a double-breasted....

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 220406)
Hummm... I have wondered about double breasted in terms of really wanting to get the wear out of it....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 220445)
Agreeing with Thinker about the double-breasted. I have one db suit and won't buy another simply because it is aggravating and kind of uncomfortable to negotiate sitting down. I don't know - maybe it is just me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 220448)
I have one double breasted tic jacket. Has vents, a pair. No problem sitting. Hmmm. Not sure what to say. I'll try on some ... and see.

Just an FYI: The latest Detail (men's fashion magazine) says that double breasted is the "must have" style this season!

(but personally, I'm not too big on the double breasted, either). :)

asphaltcowboi 11-27-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by silentshout (Post 224904)
I have a casual style. Just jeans and t-shirts. Sometimes button downs. I don't like shorts. Not sure why. If I get a career I'd really, really like to wear men suits. So that should be interesting.

i agree with the casual!! my idea of dresse up is usually my "good jeans", polished cowboi boots. either a good tee or a button down with a sport coat..
sometimes ill wear my tux shirt "that the sleeves are neatly torn out of" and leather jeans with matching sport coat

EnderD_503 11-27-2010 03:44 PM

Here to join the casual brigade :P I prefer to stick to jeans/cargos and t-shirts/longsleeves/sweatshirts. When dressing up I'm kind of like cody in that I tend to go for the "good jeans." Will wear dress shirts/button downs, polos etc., and dress pants if needed, but really not into the whole suit thing. Luckily I work at a job where the dress code = sports wear.

But...have my first work Christmas party soon and while we don't have to get dressed up to the nines, I'm guessing the usual work clothes won't cut it lol So will have to figure out what to wear for that...ugh

naturlover_52 11-27-2010 07:18 PM

for me
 
I found that I like the sweaters that have the zipper that goes to about mid chest and then would wear a turtle neck or a dress shirt and tie and a pair of nice jeans or my dress slacks and motorcycle boots.

for cas: it is Jeans and tennies and my ball cap and my hoodies

katsarecool 11-27-2010 07:21 PM

Its been so long since I've seen a real live butch I would not care if they were wearing a torn up t-shirt and a pair of winnie the pooh boxers!

aldebaran 11-27-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by katsarecool (Post 236681)
Its been so long since I've seen a real live butch I would not care if they were wearing a torn up t-shirt and a pair of winnie the pooh boxers!

Are sponge bob square pants boxers acceptable?:onebutch:

katsarecool 11-27-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aldebaran (Post 236711)
Are sponge bob square pants boxers acceptable?:onebutch:

Oh yeah! that'll work!

waxnrope 11-27-2010 08:08 PM

A follow up on eBay.
I'm not doing real well there ... or elsewhere. Lol. What happened to the flannels? The regular wools? The stores and online places have the "super" 100s wool. I can't stand them. I'd worry that o was naked ... they are thin as paper!
I found some middle and heavy weight woolen trousers, but they are very pricey. I like plated, sit at the waist pants.
On eBay, I'm looking at Harris and other tweed jackets. After the first mistake of ordering my size, and finding that vintage runs smaller, I've measured all my parts, and checked with sellers about the measurements of their coats. It's a journey, I'll tell ya. Lol.

On the plus side, I purchased enough ties to open a shop!

katsarecool 11-27-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 236726)
A follow up on eBay.
I'm not doing real well there ... or elsewhere. Lol. What happened to the flannels? The regular wools? The stores and online places have the "super" 100s wool. I can't stand them. I'd worry that o was naked ... they are thin as paper!
I found some middle and heavy weight woolen trousers, but they are very pricey. I like plated, sit at the waist pants.
On eBay, I'm looking at Harris and other tweed jackets. After the first mistake of ordering my size, and finding that vintage runs smaller, I've measured all my parts, and checked with sellers about the measurements of their coats. It's a journey, I'll tell ya. Lol.

On the plus side, I purchased enough ties to open a shop!

Hey did you win the bid on the coat?

waxnrope 11-27-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by katsarecool (Post 236762)
Hey did you win the bid on the coat?

The first one, yeah ... its on its way back. Didn't fit right.:ROFL:
There's another that I have my eyes on ...

katsarecool 11-27-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 236776)
The first one, yeah ... its on its way back. Didn't fit right.:ROFL:
There's another that I have my eyes on ...

Well I hope that one fits you nicely!!!

I am dreaming about colorful cartoonish boxer shorts tonight!!!!

T D 11-27-2010 11:13 PM


I've gotten into sweater vests this year, have a number of them now. I really like the way they look with long sleeve shirts. I can wear a tie or not depending on the event, and with or without a jacket. They're really very versatile.


waxnrope 12-05-2010 01:44 PM

I'm not too sure about which of two threads about butch clothes to post ... but there are two things on my mind today. Again, re eBay.

While perusing men's jackets, I noticed that there were a lot of tux jackets listed. Some were the ? made stuff, some rentals, etc. There's something for nearly anyone, should you be in the market. Great prices on known quality makers, and good wools, too. Real bargains to be had, just in time for the holidays. Or, next years reunion.

Maybe I'm the only one who did not know this, but there is a lot of things to do before purchasing on line.

To purchase a jacket or coat, one takes a coat of similar material, lays it on a flat surface, and measures the "chest", from armpit to armpit - double this for the correct size; then, measure the sleeve, either from the shoulder seam to end of cuff, or from the midpoint at the back of the neck to the cuff; then, from shoulder seam to shoulder seam. Turn jacket over, and measure from the base of collar to the hem for the length.

Now, the above are the most common measurements given on eBay. There are occasional variations. However, these measurements are typical for a generalized masculine figure. So, you may need to ask about the waist measurement. Or, if appropriate for your shape, the approximate abdominal measurement. It's a lot of work, I know, but worth it if you purchase online. I'm learning things about my body that I normally ignore :lol2:

Just some musings here and hope to share this info with anyone who has not tried this way of shopping, and currently considers doing so.

Rook 12-05-2010 03:33 PM

I need one of these...
ASAP

http://www.mysingaporetailor.com/pro...08%20-%20A.jpg

:glasses:

MasterWolf 12-05-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rook (Post 241978)
I need one of these...
ASAP

http://www.mysingaporetailor.com/pro...08%20-%20A.jpg

:glasses:

Nice! I've got a Bill Blass Frock Tux jacket that I wish still fit or wasn't too expensive to have tailored because I LOVE frock tux jackets. Im about to e-bay and then try to find one similar to the pic you posted that fits

peace

Wolf

Starbuck 12-05-2010 09:23 PM

My Style
 
I prefer jeans, t-shirt (usually a Harley t-shirt) and either tennis shoes or my Harley boots; during the winter I add my leather riding Harley jacket. During the summer I prefer jean shorts, t-shirts and tennis shoes. When times arise that I have to dress us, I choose my best pair of dark jeans and boots.

Passionaria 01-10-2011 03:03 AM

I have to admit it is fun to come in here and listen to you all talk clothes. Makes me smile. I just wanted to add a word of support that us femmes do really appreciate your well dressed efforts. Well dressed and smelling good says your date is worth the effort.

As a femme that loves to shop for Butch clothes (not for me silly) I would like to add there are many pieces that can be classy yet have an edge that is fun. European sexy. One of those is good leather pieces (yum) The feel and smell add a nice element. There are classic leather pieces that can be worked for a sexy variety, like black leather pants and a really good black turtleneck. With jewelry, don't forget some jewelry.Or a turtle neck with a classy leather jacket. Or cashmere mixed with leather pieces. The textures make you fun to snuggle up to........

I realize you all have your own styles, but it doesn't hurt to chime in. Also an EBAY tip*** Don't be afraid of EBAY stores in other countries if their shipping is reasonable, and their rating high. I shop all over the world, and find there are countries where your dollar goes further. Especially with Leather and jewelry. I have been very happy with my foreign country purchases. Amazed even. Also buy several pieces from the same vendor and you often get lower shipping.....

:wine:look forward to uhumm seeing you all dressed up.....


Daktari 01-10-2011 03:42 AM

I love ebay for vintage clothing. I've scored some fantastic vintage waistcoats and skinny ties. Sadly items that actually fit me are few and far between. Age 14/15 is my size :D Ebay is great for finding Levis 501s too, I have loads of pairs, they look great with Harley boots, a funky shirt and a jacket.

Write14u 01-12-2011 10:31 AM

Best thing about living in the frozen tundra now: Being able to wear button downs and my ties. When I lived in the South, there were about five days a year that were cold enough for even long-sleeved button downs. Of course, the flip side is it being so cold you don't take your jacket off, so nobody sees it. LOL

Mister 01-26-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome (Post 43896)
For anyone to post in about butch clothing, and styles. I always like to see what we all put on!

And no, this is not a butch cock & packing thread :superfunny:..... there is one of those already!

So, what are we all wearing these days? Casually, to formals.... to work?

Just checking out the threads and stumbled across this! Love a 3 piece suit with a button down shirt, cufflinks, tie and brogues but that's more for an occasion - theatre/opera or a special night out/party. For more of our community events/clubs I like my leather braces, shirt, jeans and boots. Right now, it's so hot here... cargos and wifebeaters or a tshirt.

waxnrope 01-26-2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterWolf (Post 242150)
Nice! I've got a Bill Blass Frock Tux jacket that I wish still fit or wasn't too expensive to have tailored because I LOVE frock tux jackets. Im about to e-bay and then try to find one similar to the pic you posted that fits

peace

Wolf

Sometimes, too often, really, I find myself posting and then don't go back to thread :byebye: I caught this post today that MasterWolf posted. It reminds me of a thought that passes through my mind when I've read about the femme clothing swap ... that is, are there any butches who might have interest in the same?
My buddy Alex is currently the recipient of shirts that don't fit and also a vintage jacket bought from eBay which was incorrectly sized :crybaby: Gawd I loved that coat! Leather buttons ...
Anyway, does anyone else have items of clothing and have interest in some sort of swap? Or, should we do this at Reunion? Just curious.

waxnrope 01-26-2011 09:09 AM

shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister (Post 272583)
Just checking out the threads and stumbled across this! Love a 3 piece suit with a button down shirt, cufflinks, tie and brogues but that's more for an occasion - theatre/opera or a special night out/party. For more of our community events/clubs I like my leather braces, shirt, jeans and boots. Right now, it's so hot here... cargos and wifebeaters or a tshirt.

Unfortunately, I can't wear a men's suit to work ... my gay male E.D. would kill me. Long story ... There aren't enough occasions for me to wear them, but I do seek opportunity to do so. Haven't yet worn a tie with button down ... it has been a no no within certain (older and well heeled) fashions.

Where I have shirt interest is in the "cut away" shirts worn in Europe. They've taken off in the states, and even in some shops on eBay. Here's a link to one such shirt not so much the color, but the design. They are mostly worn to accommodate the large knot tie: http://www.morcouture.com/steven-lan...ess-shirt.html

Also, if you don't have a short neck, the long neck shirts have become a fad in some circles. Some of these are rather outrageous, IMHO, but there are some beautiful designs. The inside of the collar and inside of the cuff are made with contrasting colors and/or design: http://www.morcouture.com/axxess-lig...lar-shirt.html
Note that these are shirts NOT to be worn with a tie ...

BEST FIND ON EBAY for getting a shirt that fits properly, a problem for many of us, at reasonable cost is Everything Bespoke (for anyone new to the term, bespoke refers to tailored/made to measure clothing). If nothing else, the information provided informs one about how to measure for a man's shirt. But, to have 3 shirts made for your measurements for under $100 is simply awesome! http://stores.ebay.com/Everything-Bespoke :hangloose: No more shoulder seams on the biceps! :lol2: And, yes, they also make pants. I'm saving up. Even in the men's section on eBay it is hard to find trousers to fit my long legs (w). I'm saving up!

DapperButch 01-26-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxnrope (Post 272598)
Unfortunately, I can't wear a men's suit to work ... my gay male E.D. would kill me. Long story ... There aren't enough occasions for me to wear them, but I do seek opportunity to do so. Haven't yet worn a tie with button down ... it has been a no no within certain (older and well heeled) fashions.

Where I have shirt interest is in the "cut away" shirts worn in Europe. They've taken off in the states, and even in some shops on eBay. Here's a link to one such shirt not so much the color, but the design. They are mostly worn to accommodate the large knot tie: http://www.morcouture.com/steven-lan...ess-shirt.html

Also, if you don't have a short neck, the long neck shirts have become a fad in some circles. Some of these are rather outrageous, IMHO, but there are some beautiful designs. The inside of the collar and inside of the cuff are made with contrasting colors and/or design: http://www.morcouture.com/axxess-lig...lar-shirt.html
Note that these are shirts NOT to be worn with a tie ...

I know these are the new trend, but I just can't get into either of them....

BEST FIND ON EBAY for getting a shirt that fits properly, a problem for many of us, at reasonable cost is Everything Bespoke (for anyone new to the term, bespoke refers to tailored/made to measure clothing). If nothing else, the information provided informs one about how to measure for a man's shirt. But, to have 3 shirts made for your measurements for under $100 is simply awesome! http://stores.ebay.com/Everything-Bespoke :hangloose: No more shoulder seams on the biceps! :lol2: And, yes, they also make pants. I'm saving up. Even in the men's section on eBay it is hard to find trousers to fit my long legs (w). I'm saving up!

I'm definitely going to check out this link.

I have found that dress shirts from Express (men's) have always fit correctly....length in arms and of course, shoulder seams. The biggest downfall for butches...wearing shirts that have shoulder seams down on their biceps. Bugs me. I know it is tough to find ones that fit, but I don't think a lot of folks even think about it. It makes a BIG difference in how well a shirt looks.

(side note: it has been quite a few years since I bought from Express, however. I bought like 10 shirts (including doubles) in practically every color they had at the time!) Oh, also Calvin Klein works for me as well, not as perfect, but that has been where I have been purchasing the last few years since I now have access to an oulet store.

wax, I am really appreciating your posts and links here. thanks!

DapperButch 01-26-2011 10:21 AM

Cross post from FTM gear thread
 
FYI: Frog Bra is no more

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Many butches/FTMs have used the Frog bra from title nine sports alone or in conjunction with binders. I have been meaning to come on to post to let folks know that title nine is no longer making it, and evidently, the replacement sucks according to the comments and riot over the discontinuation of the Frog Bra. Supposedly, it was discontinued b/c they were unable to get the fabric they had gotten in the past.

Here is the replacement.

http://www.titlenine.com/product/bou...rtby=ourPicks#

ETA: Seems as though this page was deleted. Have to search for "booby trap" to get the page. The comments are hilarious! People threatening breast reductions b/c their bra was taken away.

waxnrope 01-26-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 272640)
FYI: Frog Bra is no more

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Many butches/FTMs have used the Frog bra from title nine sports alone or in conjunction with binders. I have been meaning to come on to post to let folks know that title nine is no longer making it, and evidently, the replacement sucks according to the comments and riot over the discontinuation of the Frog Bra. Supposedly, it was discontinued b/c they were unable to get the fabric they had gotten in the past.

Here is the replacement.

http://www.titlenine.com/product/bou...rtby=ourPicks#

ETA: Seems as though this page was deleted. Have to search for "booby trap" to get the page. The comments are hilarious! People threatening breast reductions b/c their bra was taken away.

:superfunny: oh boy

waxnrope 01-26-2011 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 272638)
I have found that dress shirts from Express (men's) have always fit correctly....length in arms and of course, shoulder seams. The biggest downfall for butches...wearing shirts that have shoulder seams down on their biceps. Bugs me. I know it is tough to find ones that fit, but I don't think a lot of folks even think about it. It makes a BIG difference in how well a shirt looks.

(side note: it has been quite a few years since I bought from Express, however. I bought like 10 shirts (including doubles) in practically every color they had at the time!) Oh, also Calvin Klein works for me as well, not as perfect, but that has been where I have been purchasing the last few years since I now have access to an oulet store.

wax, I am really appreciating your posts and links here. thanks!

YW, dapper.
How things fit ... according to one's shape. I include the measurements to make sure that a shirt fits my waist, abs, and, if long tails, hips. I can't wear a fit shirt because, while they may fit my chest, they do not fit the rest of me, and I am uncomfortable in snug clothing ... well, some exceptions there, but I ain't talkin' bout that! :blink:

Still interested in seeing if any butches want to think about doing a clothes swap ...


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