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Strappie 02-11-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spritzerJ (Post 747154)
http://www.ecblendflavors.com/all-na...rganic-100-vg/

Well I sure hope not. I am really trying to just use the VG base! Have you heard otherwise?

Oh and Loren_Q recommends the extra flavoring with the all VG flavors. And I will do that as they are pretty darn mild.

Thanks Strappie!

Perhaps I read it wrong.. I'll go back and check.. My bottle has both listed Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). So I'm guessing your would to? Maybe I just assumed?... I'll go look.

Strappie 02-11-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spritzerJ (Post 747154)
http://www.ecblendflavors.com/all-na...rganic-100-vg/

Well I sure hope not. I am really trying to just use the VG base! Have you heard otherwise?

Oh and Loren_Q recommends the extra flavoring with the all VG flavors. And I will do that as they are pretty darn mild.

Thanks Strappie!

As I read further... I seen that you can Choose if you want Propylene Glyocol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerin (VG).

I first read it as... they use Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). for their product.

I stand corrected... Thank you!!

spritzerJ 02-11-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 747161)
Perhaps I read it wrong.. I'll go back and check.. My bottle has both listed Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). So I'm guessing your would to? Maybe I just assumed?... I'll go look.

It is a specific type of juice you need to order. Not all the flavors are 100% VG.

Happy to help out!

Strappie 02-11-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spritzerJ (Post 747172)
It is a specific type of juice you need to order. Not all the flavors are 100% VG.

Happy to help out!

Yep... Of Course right when I seen on that page that it listed both.. I thought it was exactly like mine... once you wrote that you only use VG.. I went back and looked at the site again... Sorry about that Spritzer!! Thank you for the site!!

spritzerJ 02-12-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 747192)
Yep... Of Course right when I seen on that page that it listed both.. I thought it was exactly like mine... once you wrote that you only use VG.. I went back and looked at the site again... Sorry about that Spritzer!! Thank you for the site!!

You are very welcome Strappie! I am grateful to the help and hints you've offered so far on the thread. I hope you find a juice that doesn't dry mouth you to high heaven and tastes yummy. :koolaid:

I did not know my water intake would need to be adjusted. I am going to up it asap. No need to get dehydrated.

Loren_Q 02-12-2013 08:17 AM

vapor dries out...
 
Who would have thought, but it is true that vapor will dry out your mouth.

I definitely drink more water and tea now, but I don't see that as an issue.

100%VG is lot thicker than a PG/VG blend. I've read where some folks add distilled water to thin it out.

Oh, another thing about 100% VG, ECBlends and Heather's Heavenly Vapes (and probably others) have preprinted labels that might have PG listed in the ingredients, even though there's no PG in your bottle.

wolfsgirl 02-12-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie (Post 747114)
Forgive me if anyone posted about this already. I haven't read all pages here.

I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with "Dry Mouth?" I have been vaping for about a yr and half and I have major problems with dry mouth. I've researched it and only find that if people get this, it only lasts about 2 weeks. For me, it's so bad that I can not create any saliva to the point I have a lisp. I have spoke to my local store and they have only heard of this from one other person. For her she knew she was alergic to the propylene glycol and takes that chance for cigarette free life. I haven't spoken to my Doctor yet, that's coming. I also know it's used in toothpaste which would explain why (I think) my mouth is dry after I brush.

I also know when Vaping you are to drink a lot of water! This hasn't helped me with the "Dry Mouth" it has almost made it worse.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone else has had this issue? It sucks because I went for 4 months without smoking (one wknd I had 4 cigs) but couldn't take the dry mouth any longer.

Does anyone use Liquids with out the Propylene glycol in their liquids. If so where do you get them and can you shoot me the site you get them from.

You could have a PG allergy. Try a vg only liquid. There are many people with the same or worse PG allergies. Deejstuff has VG only liquid. He's the only mixologist I use now.

Hollylane 02-12-2013 10:32 PM

Day 5 without smoking! YAY!
 
Following Medusa's post, I started browsing Heathers Heavenly Vapes.

Here's what is on the way:


1 ea. E-Liquid 3ml Sample 4 Pack-$10.00

Flavor #1 - Blueberry Muffin
Flavor #2 - Cinful Pear
Flavor #3 - Just Peachy
Flavor #4 - P Nut Butter Cookie


1 ea. Cin City $6.00: This is a spot on, right out of the oven cinnamon bun vape.

Nicotine Level - 18mg
Bottle Size - 6ml
PG/VG Ratio - 70/30


1 ea. Powder Keg $6.00: A powder keg of flavor combining dark chocolate, fresh coconut and roasted almonds.

Nicotine Level - 18mg
Bottle Size - 6ml
PG/VG Ratio - 70/30


I'll post what I think of the flavors after they arrive. I hope they come soon, I'm soooooo excited to try new ones!

I love the battery life on this thing, on a full charge, I have been using it constantly for 2 days now.

Medusa 02-12-2013 11:42 PM

It's a real deal!

It's called "vape mouth"!

I got it after about my second week because I started "mouth vaping" more and inhaling less (not that you can't get it from inhaling because you certainly can but mouth vaping seems to be a huge culprit.)

I am not allergic to the pg but it is an alcohol-based substance if I remember correctly so you will have drying agent in your mouth and even in small amounts can strip your tongue and mouth of the slick stuff.

* The higher the PG content, the more likely you'll get vape mouth.

* If you vape 100% VG, you have to be really careful about your clearomizers because that juice is a LOT thicker and will burn a clearomizer up quickly.

* Most places (except for super boutique stores) will let you pick what blend you want. There are some stores who sell their juices pre-mixed with what they consider to be the optimum blend for flavor.

* I always vape a 70/30 blend. Propylene Glycol is a much better flavor conductor than VG but VG produces more smoke so you will often have to adjust accordingly. I like the flavor and could care much less about the smoke, hence my 70/30 blend!

* Jackhammer ordered a juice that was pre-mixed at 50/50 and she had to draw pretty hard on her cartomizer to get any smoke. It smoked HUGE but she was annoyed with how hard the pull was with the thicker juice AND it burns up a lot faster.

* Drink tons of water! I've also found that chewing gum seems to help keep the mouth feeling more normal and less like a fur carpet!!!

If you DO get vape mouth, it will go away fairly quickly but it is definitely uncomfortable.

Hollylane 02-12-2013 11:47 PM

I have to mention, that currently, I am getting away with vaping, with some discreetness at my desk. I am certain that it is improving my stress level during difficult calls. I hope they either don't notice that I'm doing it, or ignore it. We do have quite a few 5 year old adults, who enjoy a good tattle, so unfortunately, it probably won't last.

A few people have mentioned that they really like the smell of blueberries that is around my desk. :)

Medusa 02-12-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollylane (Post 747902)
I have to mention, that currently, I am getting away with vaping, with some discreetness at my desk. I am certain that it is improving my stress level during difficult calls. I hope they either don't notice that I'm doing it, or ignore it. We do have quite a few 5 year old adults, who enjoy a good tattle, so unfortunately, it probably won't last.

A few people have mentioned that they really like the smell of blueberries that is around my desk. :)

If you are worried about the smoke - Blow your vapor into a tissue or a handkerchief. It's super discreet ;)

Hollylane 02-12-2013 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 747904)
If you are worried about the smoke - Blow your vapor into a tissue or a handkerchief. It's super discreet ;)

I do that, it really works! In a pinch, I blow it into my sleeve.

PearlsNLace 02-13-2013 12:05 AM

I don't smoke. However the idea of vaping cinnamon rolls and blueberry muffins sounds way better than noshing on high calorie bad tasting gluten free versions of these things.

Should vaping be reserved for tobacco and former tobacco smokers only?

Medusa 02-13-2013 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PearlsNLace (Post 747907)
I don't smoke. However the idea of vaping cinnamon rolls and blueberry muffins sounds way better than noshing on high calorie bad tasting gluten free versions of these things.

Should vaping be reserved for tobacco and former tobacco smokers only?

No way, girl! There are two people at work who have gotten into vaping just because they were smelling my delicious vapor creeping around the floor. Neither of them have ever smoked and they are using it to help kill the sugar cravings!

I have lost 6 pounds since quitting smoking and I highly attribute it to having my vape with me when I want something yummy :)

Strappie 02-13-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 747899)
It's a real deal!

It's called "vape mouth"!

I got it after about my second week because I started "mouth vaping" more and inhaling less (not that you can't get it from inhaling because you certainly can but mouth vaping seems to be a huge culprit.)

I am not allergic to the pg but it is an alcohol-based substance if I remember correctly so you will have drying agent in your mouth and even in small amounts can strip your tongue and mouth of the slick stuff.

* The higher the PG content, the more likely you'll get vape mouth.

* If you vape 100% VG, you have to be really careful about your clearomizers because that juice is a LOT thicker and will burn a clearomizer up quickly.

From what I understand they do have "clearomizer's" on the marker to handle 100% VG


* Most places (except for super boutique stores) will let you pick what blend you want. There are some stores who sell their juices pre-mixed with what they consider to be the optimum blend for flavor.

My store is pre-mixed 50/50


* I always vape a 70/30 blend. Propylene Glycol is a much better flavor conductor than VG but VG produces more smoke so you will often have to adjust accordingly. I like the flavor and could care much less about the smoke, hence my 70/30 blend!

* Jackhammer ordered a juice that was pre-mixed at 50/50 and she had to draw pretty hard on her cartomizer to get any smoke. It smoked HUGE but she was annoyed with how hard the pull was with the thicker juice AND it burns up a lot faster.

I am a visual person, so I need to see it to feel like I'm getting anything.


* Drink tons of water! I've also found that chewing gum seems to help keep the mouth feeling more normal and less like a fur carpet!!!

Shitty thing is I was up to a milk jug of water a day.. and it never helped. I tried the gum, that made it worse. I even bought stuff at Wallgreen's for dry mouth (infact G was with me when I got it the first time)

If you DO get vape mouth, it will go away fairly quickly but it is definitely uncomfortable.


I had it so badly I had to stop... I lost all the taste of food and had a lisp. It wasn't fun. I stopped for 5 weeks and on the 6th week my taste started to come back. I went back to vaping, however not as much as I would like!

I'm hoping that changing my mixture will alleviate my troubles! If not I will talk to my Doctor and see what I can do

Medusa, thank you for all the research you have done!! It has already helped me!!

Loren_Q 02-13-2013 06:06 PM

Strappie,
It does sound like you are allergic to PG. Is there any way your store can make a 100% VG, since you're not planning on ordering on-line?

One of my co-workers does 100% VG, he uses a standard starlight clearomizer. What he does though is he dilutes it with distilled water. He pops the cap off the juice and drops it in with a clean eyedropper. Then closes the cap and "shakes it to hell and back".

I hope you find a way around vape-mouth, it's a shame if you can't.

Strappie 02-13-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PearlsNLace (Post 747907)
I don't smoke. However the idea of vaping cinnamon rolls and blueberry muffins sounds way better than noshing on high calorie bad tasting gluten free versions of these things.

Should vaping be reserved for tobacco and former tobacco smokers only?

I agree with Medusa. I have friends that have never smoked a day in their life. But love the smell of them. They also found it fun to have it at the bars or restaurants. So they ended up getting one for themselves. They buy the liquids that do not contain nicotine.

Strappie 02-13-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PearlsNLace (Post 747907)
I don't smoke. However the idea of vaping cinnamon rolls and blueberry muffins sounds way better than noshing on high calorie bad tasting gluten free versions of these things.

Should vaping be reserved for tobacco and former tobacco smokers only?

Absolutely Not!! Go for it!! Go Nicotine Free!

Strappie 02-13-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren_Q (Post 748301)
Strappie,
It does sound like you are allergic to PG. Is there any way your store can make a 100% VG, since you're not planning on ordering on-line?

One of my co-workers does 100% VG, he uses a standard starlight clearomizer. What he does though is he dilutes it with distilled water. He pops the cap off the juice and drops it in with a clean eyedropper. Then closes the cap and "shakes it to hell and back".

I hope you find a way around vape-mouth, it's a shame if you can't.


Yes, it's been a damn shame that I can't smoke it like I want to. I am however going to try the higher dose of VG if not the 100% VG rather than my stores 50/50.

LaDivina 02-14-2013 10:08 AM

*raising my hand*

I started vaping on one of Scorp's about a week ago. She's got the eGo-T, with eGo transparent clearomizers. She had a tank with ECBlend's "top of the muffin blueberry" that she didn't like, but I did, and have been using that ever since. I wasn't sure if it was something I would like -- I've never been a smoker (except for that one "rebellious" summer...rar :winky:) but thought it might help with food cravings. I do like it, and will probably get a starter kit of my own (eGo-C in pink, anyone?)

I'm kind of getting sick of the flavor now, but we just ordered 9 more (haha!) from ECBlend to try out.

I was really confused by all the terminology -- texting Medusa a few days ago, asking "wtf is throat hit?" LOL -- and just found this review of several different tank systems that might be helpful to someone. I don't think I've seen this link here, but I may have missed it. Anyway:



Enjoy!


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