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Talon 04-26-2012 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 571609)
The acrylic would have to come off I think. I've had the gels done before and I liked them. They didn't damage my nails like acrylic. They would last up to 2 weeks for me, but I am hard on my nails.

I just got my first shellac manicure and I like it too. It's lasted about a week and a half so far, and may make it to 2 before I get annoyed enough to have it redone.
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.

Talon 04-26-2012 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by justkim (Post 571744)
What type of gel are you thinking about? Something along the line of Shellac by CND, OPI also has a version, actually there are many versions out there. Although you can use acrylic and gel together the person doing the process should be able to do it right. I would suggest finding someone in your area that uses Young Nails. It is the product I use as a licensed nail tech/cosmetologist. I have used OPI and the CND Shellac of those two I prefer OPI. As far as tips go, I only sculpt my nails and steer clear of using tips, mind you this is just my preference and may not be something your nail tech does.
I wish you luck in finding what works for you.

Thanks for the info, justkim...I will have to look into the sculptured nails as a possible option. Are they as strong as acrylic?

vixenagogo 04-26-2012 12:25 PM
tomay-to...tomah-to.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

Talon 04-26-2012 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).

Thanks for clearing the gel/shellac thing up. And also the acrylic/gel thing, too. :groucho:

justkim 04-26-2012 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.
Talon, more damage is done by the nail tech to the natural nail when they are not trained properly. ALL of my clients could go without nail enhancements if that is what they chose to do. But they don't. I take any and all classes that are offered to me so that I can provide the most current and up to date information to my clients.
You can put gel over acrylic, but proper steps need to be taken to make sure you get the best adhesion.

justkim 04-26-2012 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).
There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Gemme 04-26-2012 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talon (Post 573149)
Yeah, unfortunately the acrylic wrecks your nail bed, but I love the length and strength w/ acrylics. Maybe the next time I remove them, I'll try the gel manicure. Do you know if it the same w/the shellac mani,(having to remove your acrylic first?)
Thank you for your response, Gemme.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vixenagogo (Post 573157)
a gel manicure is the same a shellac manicure. shellac is just a brand name of a gel manicure product. i have had shellac and gelish products used. personally i like the gelish because it's a little thicker in consistency and seems to wear longer ( i get about 3 weeks wear). gelish also has more colors to choose from (including sparkles for those so inclined).

so yes, you would have to remove your acrylic first if you are interested in a gel manicure cause you wouldn't need both, right?

in regards to your nail bed... if you pick or peel off the gel polish, it will cause damage to your nail beds, too. always have any artificial nail product (gel or acrylic) removed the proper way by soaking in acetone. the nice thing about the gel manicure is that there is no aggressive filing on the natural nail like acrylic nails because the product is removed every time you have it done (instead of layering).
Quote:
Originally Posted by justkim (Post 573353)
There should NEVER be any aggressive filing on the natural nail bed no matter what you are having done. You only need to remove the shine from the natural nail bed. I have used buffing block to remove the shine. I had no problems with my product adhering to the nail. It is all in the prep work. Acrylic doesn't need to be removed for every application, if you are being told this then you are being ripped off.

I do this for a living, I also teach. It is my job not only to educate my students but also my clients. I share this information with you all because I love what I do, not because I want to be perceived as a know it all... If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.
Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.

justkim 04-26-2012 09:01 PM
Some of my handy work...
 
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Beloved 04-27-2012 04:22 AM
I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

justkim 04-27-2012 08:29 AM
Go ahead and pamper yourself... Do it when it is cold too... Your feet will thank you...



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Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 573495)
I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.

Talon 04-27-2012 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 573393)
Vixen and kim pretty much answered you, Talon, so I won't get into a long or drawn out dialogue but I will say that I'm up to 2 weeks now with my shellac mani and, though I can see the growth and where it could be filled in, I got a French so it still looks good.

I will say that next time, I'm going to have them go really deep on the white part. That way, when it grows out, I won't be able to see the shadow of the growth as soon. It may last me 3-4 weeks if I do it that way.

*edited to say*

I spent the first 3 days of my new shellac mani in water. If I wasn't in the pool, I was in the jacuzzi so my nails took a beating. I looked more pruney than humany. I have a regular pedi on my toes and the polish began to chip on the edges a little bit but my fingernails still looked fabulous. I'm really liking this.
*chuckle*....I'm in the water quite a lot too, especially in summer, so the shellac sounds perfect for me.
Thanks, for everyone's response, I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. :lips:

girl_dee 04-27-2012 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 573495)
I'd love to have cute nails but I can't because of work. So I make up for it with pedicures in the warm months.
me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!

Beloved 04-27-2012 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajun_dee (Post 573668)
me too , bodyworker with long nails not good!

i made a post about pedicures on the nail me butch version, i am so sick of seeing people get foot funguses from pedicure places!
I've never seen a place that uses basins. What you wrote scares me!

Beloved 05-09-2012 03:54 AM
Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!

justkim 05-09-2012 06:57 AM
Beloved, be careful with leaving your files in a bag. This can encourage the growth of undesirable types of bacteria also. I also use the drop in disposable liners. They are worth their weight in gold and the peace of mind they bring to clients is invaluable. Glad you found someone who makes you comfortable.





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Originally Posted by Beloved (Post 581336)
Update: I had a pedicure last week and I found a woman that is REALLY clean. She uses a foot bath with disposable liners. She doesn't share files, she dries yours out and keeps it in a baggie with your name on it.

I was telling her how HAPPY I was to see her foot bath and that I was scared of getting foot fungus from the places with those whirlpool like tubs. She told me that foot fungus isn't the worst thing you could get. There is a place in the mall that closed by the health dept because it was spreading MRSA! She also had a client that had a gift certificate to another place and she got a blood infection when that drill they use on acrylics nicked her cuticle. She said that the state goes crazy with these places because when they try to shut them down they say they sold it to another person (another family member usually) and they get the run around.

She told me some other disgusting stories as well. Just be careful everyone!

Ms. Tabitha 05-09-2012 07:48 AM

femmsational 05-09-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ms. Tabitha (Post 581432)


Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie

Ms. Tabitha 05-09-2012 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by femmsational (Post 581502)
Holy cow!! I am a total nail girl. Even if I have a ball cap, jeans no makeup etc.. my nails are done. always.

Those duck nails freak me out. How do you wear shoes??? Wouldn't they cut the hell out of your other toes? And me being a putsy person normally, if my hands had nails that flared like that, I'd knock everything I tried to touch over. :|

I guess if you're used to them they might not be so hard to live with??? Maybe?

Still....Holy cow!!!


julie
I agree Julie ~ I may not have my makeup on and my hair may be pulled back in a ponytail but, my nails and especially my feet, are done :)

I could hurt myself with those nails :blink: or someone else :blush:
I don't think you would be able to wear closed toe shoes if your toes had the 'flare' on them, could you?

Imagine the pain if one of them broke?

justkim 05-09-2012 01:35 PM
Ummm... NO! Not only No but ummm... hell no... I have seen some crazy trends come and go when it comes to nails. This is NOT an option I wish to entertain. I have done them on a client, she loved them...
To each their own...



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Originally Posted by Ms. Tabitha (Post 581432)


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