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cinderella 03-10-2010 10:16 PM

Not a movie...but I just had to post this.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBd3cKuLPPg"]YouTube- Abbott and Costello Who's On First[/ame]

cinderella 03-11-2010 05:10 AM

Ok, it's 6am EST, and I haven't been to bed since 5pm last night, and just can't fall asleep. So, I am watching my favorite channel on TV, and being the fanatic I am for classic Hollywood films, the only channel worth watching is TCM (Turner Classic Movies) - in case you didn't know by now.

That said, I must report...it''s been a lovely very late evening/very early morning on TCM - Rogers and Astair, how could it possible get any better?

I just finished watching 'Follow the Fleet' - a favorite since childhood when me and my sister used to watch it on Saturday mornings on 'Million Dollar Movie' in the 60's.

Nothing short of liquid poetry in motion, Rogers & Astair. I am posting one of my favorites: 'Let's Face the Music and Dance'. My only criticism is that I wish it was Astair's voice instead of Nat King Cole's we hear in this vid. This is a montage of several films. I tried finding a sole version of them doing the 'Let's Face the Music...' routine, but couldn't find it.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFI0rFFp8j8&feature=related"]YouTube- Fred & Ginger: Lets' face the music and dance[/ame]

Jet 03-11-2010 09:45 PM

An actress I really like is Jean Arthur.
Really cute, but underrated.
She did some nice work.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...icture11-2.png

cinderella 03-11-2010 09:53 PM

Yes, I love her too. She was great in Frank Capra's 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65216)
An actress I really like is Jean Arthur.
Really cute, but underrated.
She did some nice work.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...icture11-2.png


Jet 03-12-2010 03:08 PM

Love scene from Ryan's Daughter
considered to be one of the most sensuous on film.
David Lean directed and it had the most beautiful main title.
I saw it at the theatre when it was released in the 70's.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZdDMXw42S0"]YouTube- La Figlia di Ryan - D.Lean[/ame]

cinderella 03-12-2010 05:44 PM

Never saw it...now, I must. Wasn't Fred Astair in this? Or am I confusing it with another film?

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65714)
Love scene from Ryan's Daughter
considered to be one of the most sensuous on film.
David Lean directed and it had the most beautiful main title.
I saw it at the theatre when it was released in the 70's.


YouTube- La Figlia di Ryan - D.Lean


Jet 03-12-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65819)
Never saw it...now, I must. Wasn't Fred Astair in this? Or am I confusing it with another film?

no. watch the clip.

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:07 PM

I did, not good for my equilibrium...

Oh, yes, it was Finian's Rainbow Fred was in...it's the Irish names that confuse me...

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65824)
no. watch the clip.


Jet 03-12-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 63522)
Nah, you didn't ruin Louis for me...

Yanno, I always get their names mixed up too, because they're so similar. I just keep reminding myself that it was Wyler Bette Davis had an affair with! It's so much easier for me to remember things when there's a scandal attached to it. lol

I too love the list of Wyler's films you have here, Ol' Jet. I'd be hard put to pick a favorite, but if I needed to, I think it would be The Little Foxes...I have never seen such evil portrayed as the scene where Herbert Marshall is crawling up the stairs trying to get to his heart medicine, while Bette listens without turning to look at his desperate climb - it's all in her eyes!!! Unbelievable!!! That is the most riveting performance without dialogue I've ever seen!!

That seen in The Little Foxes is pretty close to the ice heart of Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, remember Joan gasping and reaching for help? I'm a fan of The Little Foxes because it was written by Lillian Hellman who also wrote Watch on the Rhine and The Children's Hour. I think she was married to Daschiell Hammet (sp)

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:14 PM

Hmmm, married to Dashiell Hammett, could be, don't know for sure...

Yes, that scene in The Little Foxes, it is a tour de force for Bette, I think. No dialogue yet so intense and riveting. Reminds me also of the scene in The Letter, where Bette goes to see 'the woman', and she makes Bette stoop down to pick up 'the letter'. The Letter is another phenomenal Davis film, I love it!


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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65840)
That seen in The Little Foxes is pretty close to the ice heart of Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, remember Joan gasping and reaching for help? I'm a fan of The Little Foxes because it was written by Lillian Hellman who also wrote Watch on the Rhine and The Children's Hour. I think she was married to Daschiell Hammet (sp)


Jet 03-12-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65845)
Hmmm, married to Dashiell Hammett, could be, don't know for sure...

Yes, that scene in The Little Foxes, it is a tour de force for Bette, I think. No dialogue yet so intense and riveting. Reminds me also of the scene in The Letter, where Bette goes to see 'the woman', and she makes Bette stoop down to pick up 'the letter'. The Letter is another phenomenal Davis film, I love it!

Directed by William Wyler who she was having a relationship with at the time. They argued all the time making that movie.

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:20 PM

Yes, I know. But, I think Wyler brought out the best in Davis, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65846)
Directed by William Wyler who she was having a relationship with at the time. They argued all the time making that movie.


Jet 03-12-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65849)
Yes, I know. But, I think Wyler brought out the best in Davis, don't you think?

I guess, she's always a bitch. if he brought that kind of intensity in Davis' nasty characters, my vote would be Jezebel as his best. The scene at the cotillion where she's wearing red and everyone else is in white is riveting. You feel the embarrassment and shame for Henry Fonda.

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:27 PM

Other very best favorites...

How Green Was My Valley - I love this film.
The Corn I Green - Bette Davis version - love it!
My Cousin Rachel - why don't they ever show this on TCM, I've requested it several times
Brief Encounter - the original, directed by David Lean (Jet, you know this is my favorite of all time)
A Man For All Seasons - the story of Thomas Moore and his downfall - great film
The Shoes of the Fisherman - Anthony Quinn as the pope

So many other...I can't think right now.

On March 23, at 8pm EST, TCM will be showing 'Roshomon' a film by Akira Kurosawa. A prominent Japanese director with unbelievable and unprecedented 'vision'. He is amazing, you must see this landmark film. Here's a short syopis of 'Roshomon' in my opinion one of the best films ever made.

The story told by Rashomon is both surprisingly simple and deceptively complex. The central tale, which tells of the rape of a woman (Machiko Kyo) and the murder of a man (Masayuki Mori), possibly by a bandit (Toshiro Mifune), is presented entirely in flashbacks from the perspectives of four narrators. The framing portions of the movie transpire at Kyoto's crumbling Rashomon gate, where several people seek shelter from a pelting rain storm and discuss the recent crime, which has shocked the region. One of the men, a woodcutter (Takashi Shimura), was a witness to the events, and, with the help of a priest (Minoru Chiaki), he puzzles over what really happened, and what such a horrible occurrence says about human nature.

Jet 03-12-2010 06:30 PM

You know what else they don't show? The Helen Morgan Story with Anne Blythe and Paul Newman 1957. I requested it, but there's a rights problem.

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:38 PM

I know who Helen Morgan was...but I didn't realize TCM never showed that film. It could be there's a 'rights' problem, as you said. That's prob the case with 'My Cousin Rachel', tho I wish they would let us know.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65859)
You know what else they don't show? The Helen Morgan Story with Anne Blythe and Paul Newman 1957. I requested it, but there's a rights problem.


cinderella 03-12-2010 06:41 PM

YES!!! It is intense, isn't it? I always feel so bad for him during those scenes...but Jezebel was just a natural rebel - she was just being herself. The times and people were just not ready for her, that's all.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65851)
I guess, she's always a bitch. if he brought that kind of intensity in Davis' nasty characters, my vote would be Jezebel as his best. The scene at the cotillion where she's wearing red and everyone else is in white is riveting. You feel the embarrassment and shame for Henry Fonda.


Jet 03-12-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65866)
I know who Helen Morgan was...but I didn't realize TCM never showed that film. It could be there's a 'rights' problem, as you said. That's prob the case with 'My Cousin Rachel', tho I wish they would let us know.

They wrote and said it was a rights problem. I love the movie and it took me years to find the soundtrack on vinyl on RCA and then on CD which is now discontinued. Ray Heindorf did the music (I'm a fan of his) and it's kick ass with Gogi Grant dubbed in for Ann Blythe.

cinderella 03-12-2010 06:46 PM

Speaking of singers...TCM recently showed 'I'll Cry Tomorrow' -not common fare for TCM. I always loved that film, and I love Susan Hayward. She was very good in this. As you know, she died way before her time of a brain tumor. So sad. She was so beautiful...

Jet 03-12-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65873)
Speaking of singers...TCM recently showed 'I'll Cry Tomorrow' -not common fare for TCM. I always loved that film, and I love Susan Hayward. She was very good in this. As you know, she died way before her time of a brain tumor. So sad. She was so beautiful...

I have that soundtrack, too. Another one i spent about 20 years looking for and all because of Alex North's musical direction of "Sing You Sinners" Kick ass version!

Jet 03-12-2010 07:00 PM

Psycho is on tonight on the Chiller Channel.

Watch if you dare!

Jet 03-12-2010 07:11 PM

Jet's FlixMix-Remakes
 

Double up with
Remakes!

Not all remakes are good—usually not good at all.
But here are a few from different genres that carry their weight make for pretty interesting nights for classics.


The Thing 1982/The Thing from Another World 1951 (science fiction)

A Star is Born 1937/1954 and 1976 (the 1954 version with Judy Garland is my pick) (a true melodrama)

Lady for a Day 1933/Pocket Full of Miracles 1961 (both directed by William Wyler) (Comedy-drama)

Roxy Hart 1942/Chicago 2002 (musical)

These Three 1936/The Children's Hour 1961 (both directed by William Wyler) (heavy drama)

3:10 to Yuma 1957/3:10 to Yuma 2007 (the original is excellent black and white)(western)

cinderella 03-12-2010 07:17 PM

Not sure I understand what you mean...I hate remakes...even of bad 'B' pics. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Tho I must admit, I like The Children's Hour way better then Those 3 any day of the week! And, yep, A Star Is Born - I like Judy in ANYTHING!!!

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65885)

Double up with
Remakes!

Not all remakes are good—usually not good at all.
But here are a few that carry their weight make for pretty interesting nights for classics.


The Thing 1982/The Thing from Another world 1951
A Star is Born 1937/1954 and 1976 (the 1954 version with Judy garland is my pick)
Lady for a Day 1933/Pocket full of Miracles 1961 (both directed by William Wyler)
Roxy Hart 1942/Chicago 2002
These Three 1936/The Children's Hour 1961 (both directed by William Wyler)
3:10 to Yuma 2007/3:10 to Yuma 1957 (the original is excellent black and white)


Jet 03-12-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65889)
Not sure I understand what you mean...I hate remakes...even of bad 'B' pics. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Tho I must admit, I like The Children's Hour way better then Those 3 any day of the week! And, yep, A Star Is Born - I like Judy in ANYTHING!!!

well, that's your opinion. i think these are good remakes and that's my opinion.

cinderella 03-12-2010 07:21 PM

I don't get 'Chiller Channel' whatever that is...but I do have Psycho on tape, and can watch it anytime I want. But you know, after seeing it a gazillion times, it never fails to entrap and mesmerize me - that's the Hitchcock magic at work!!

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65879)
Psycho is on tonight on the Chiller Channel.

Watch if you dare!


cinderella 03-12-2010 07:23 PM

And we all know that we're entitled to them...opinions, that is.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65895)
well, that's your opinion. i think these are good remakes and that's my opinion.


Jet 03-12-2010 07:40 PM

I'm watching Psycho and then i'm watching another horror flick.

cinderella 03-12-2010 07:43 PM

Enjoy...I'll watch TCM for awhile if there's anything worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65909)
I'm watching Psycho and then i'm watching another horror flick.


Jet 03-12-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65909)
I'm watching Psycho and then i'm watching another horror flick.

remind me never to accept an invitation to sandwiches and milk

Jet 03-12-2010 09:16 PM

The Nanny, 1965
 
I think one of the best psychological thrillers from Bette Davis is The Nanny, 1965
Check out the trailer.

This is a shpooky...movie...about a nanny whose charge are the two children
of a young, wealthy London couple.

The youngest child, a little girl, dies from a freak drowning accident,
but leaves her older brother suspect and sent away.
When he returns to find their nanny still in the household,
he does everything to protect himself from her in an intense cat and mouse game.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_2519YDw4c"]YouTube- The Nunny[/ame]

cinderella 03-12-2010 09:29 PM

Gee,not even if there's stuffed birds involved? lol

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65915)
remind me never to accept an invitation to sandwiches and milk


cinderella 03-12-2010 09:33 PM

I love Bette Davis, but this is so not my cup of tea, so, I think I'll pass....
I guess she was needing money desparetedly at this point to consend to this type of film...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65965)
I think one of the best psychological thrillers from Bette Davis is The Nanny, 1965
Check out the trailer.

This is a shpooky...movie...about a nanny whose charge are the two children
of a young, wealthy London couple.

The youngest child, a little girl, dies from a freak drowning accident,
but leaves her older brother suspect and sent away.
When he returns to find their nanny still in the household,
he does everything to protect himself from her in an intense cat and mouse game.


YouTube- The Nunny


Jet 03-12-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65972)
I love Bette Davis, but this is so not my cup of tea, so, I think I'll pass....

never saw it? vintage davis and really well done. others may like it, so i'm putting it out here for those looking for classic movies.

cinderella 03-12-2010 09:38 PM

Well, whatever...I just don't like seeing 'The Davis' in that sort of movie...OK, I'm done.

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet (Post 65974)
never saw it? vintage davis and really well done


Jet 03-12-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65972)
I love Bette Davis, but this is so not my cup of tea, so, I think I'll pass....
I guess she was needing money desparetedly at this point to consend to this type of film...

then she must have consented to Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte and Baby Jane since they were done in a row...must have needed money?

Jet 03-12-2010 10:23 PM

TCM is great tonight. Plenty of sci-fi B flicks from the 50s.

Jet 03-13-2010 10:10 PM

I'm not a big fan of James Coburn or his movies per se.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...mes_coburn.jpg

But there is a great sort of clock and dagger, whodunit that really is good.
The Last of Sheila plays like a sophistocated Clue game
leaving you at the very last asking, "what really happened to Sheila?"
Most of the movie takes place on a yacht, leaving a cast of star-studded
actors as suspects into the disappearance of Sheila.
I recommend this as a great little psychological whodunit from the 70's.
And well worth the watch and the rent if you can get it.
There aren't any good lifts from YouTube, but at least there's visuals:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWh5R1t3820"]YouTube- #489) THE LAST OF SHEILA (1973)[/ame]

See you at the movies...

Jet 03-13-2010 10:31 PM

5 Easy Pieces
 
There's a thousand comments we could all make about Jack Nicholson as to what makes him a fantastic actor,
a few not even preferring Nicholson.
I won't share my views about Nicholson other than to say the first time I ever saw him was in 5 Easy Pieces in 1970.
He was nominated for Best Actor. All I remember was his profound presence on screen
and the fact that he made everything seem so real. I thought, "I've never seen anybody like that!"
The best scene of all was in the famous diner scene
which typifies Nicholson's edgy, off the cuff presence.
It's awesome and I'd recommend viewing it as well as a great movie which about...

Summary, 5 Easy Pieces

Robert Dupea has given up his promising career as a concert pianist and is now working in oil fields.
He lives together with Rayette, who's a waitress in a diner.
When Robert hears from his sister that his father isn't well, he drives up to Washington to see him,
taking Rayette with him. There he gets confronted with his rich, cultured family that he had left behind.

See ya at the movies....


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtfNE4z6a8"]YouTube- Five Easy Pieces Diner Scene[/ame]

Martina 03-14-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cinderella (Post 65873)
Speaking of singers...TCM recently showed 'I'll Cry Tomorrow' -not common fare for TCM. I always loved that film, and I love Susan Hayward. She was very good in this. As you know, she died way before her time of a brain tumor. So sad. She was so beautiful...

Loved Susan Hayward.

Jet 03-15-2010 10:23 PM

I like sitting down to a classic just because it is classic even if it's not great.
I like The FBI Story as unreal as it was because I like Jimmy Stewart movies.
J. Edgar Hoover had script approval being the paranoid, schizo control freak that he was...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWHw98XI60"]YouTube- Jimmy Stewart in The FBI Story: Library Proposal Scene[/ame]

I like The Glenn Miller Story too. Helen Miller did wear a size
3 and 1/2 shoe. A peer of mine and I wrote a 3 hour docudrama
for radio on the life Glenn miller called "The Major." They did locate
his single-engine monoplane, a Norseman, in the English channel, a few year's back.
I speculate that, if he would have lived, Glenn Miller would have been a great composer
and arranger in films. He had already done two movies before entering the army and forming the AAF band.
Here's the scene when he discovers "the sound...' after Willie Schwartz cuts his lip on a trumpet. The story is legend but it is a nice one...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_knLCjiWI"]YouTube- Glenn Miller Story-Cut his lip and the sound[/ame]


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