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The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 05:48 PM

I believe many people have adviced you to tell Mom what is going on with her man child, Dad should be approached and child educated on trans people. Good luck!

Dreamer 07-05-2011 05:50 PM

Well to be honest I am wondering why your nephew can't go to his mother about this as surely she is the one who would be in the best position to help him. So that is what I was questioning. I mean it is great he can come to you and talk to you about his concerns, but whilst you can provide advice to him and be a sounding board ultimately it is his parents that need to address the situation.

tapu 07-05-2011 06:01 PM

If a kid talks to anyone, be grateful. Then that person can make it safe for them to talk to the parents/guardians, as is appropriate in most cases.

There are an awful lot of details about this that, in my opinion, don't bear at all on the real issue. To me, the real issue is that this child feels trapped and is looking to find alternative routes to aid. It sounds to me like Okie and Red are continuing in a good direction.

Dreamer 07-05-2011 06:04 PM

And without sitting down with the child and discussing it and getting to the nitty gritty of what the problem is then no one here really knows what the real issue is, only what is presented and so therefore there is no real solution.
I hope that Nick gets the guidance he requires and I wish him well.

Okiebug61 07-05-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 372716)
First of all The furrie is a WOMAN not a man, i hope that was explained to all The children, can we have some sensitivity for The MTF members of our community, and have you or Red taken The time and let unknown parent know said child is distraught?

Dear Lady Snow!

No she is not a woman she doesn't claim to be a woman, she id's as a transgendered furry female who makes sure the male identifying body parts are very well displayed in the tight spandex pants she wears. She likes to make sure everyone knows she is a biological male and she has stated that she has no wish transform but likes being addressed at a woman.

I have complete sensitivity to our transgendered members. This however is not one. I ask that you do not jump to conclusions about my thoughts or feelings about our Transgendered community members. I totally respect all of them and support their journey.

Peace!

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:12 PM

Um Okie one does not have to transition to be know they are woman!
I'm sorry but you also need to educate yourself on transpeoples.

tapu 07-05-2011 06:15 PM

Call me crazy, but I think educating this boy on transgendering would be pretty far down in the developmental curriculum at this particular juncture. Especially with "hands-on" (meant figuratively) learning.

Dreamer 07-05-2011 06:18 PM

If it is part of his life on a day to day basis then I think educating the boy to understand would be a very good idea. But that of course is just my opinion.

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 372762)
Call me crazy, but I think educating this boy on transgendering would be pretty far down in the developmental curriculum at this particular juncture. Especially with "hands-on" (meant figuratively) learning.



Why? Transpeoples exist, why shouldn't the child be educated? Everyone should know transgendered folks are out there, it's not harmful to any child.

tapu 07-05-2011 06:22 PM

That sounds great if anyone can figure out what is going on at all. But right now, you have an acute situation. It's about where this kid is. Before you can sit down and explain the larger picture, you have to help him deal with the fact that he's in a desperate spot now. Of course, the underlying problem there is that they didn't approach the bigger picture with maturity and sensitivity to begin with. But right now, he is not reachable that way.

And I just want to establish now that anything that comes out of my mouth is necessarily my opinion. That's why I don't find it necessary to remind everyone.

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:24 PM

The obvious choice has not been made, not all parents know child is distraught, add transphobic thinking and now it's a huge gross mess. Poor kid!

tapu 07-05-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 372770)
Why? Transpeoples exist, why shouldn't the child be educated? Everyone should know transgendered folks are out there, it's not harmful to any child.

I'm talking about THIS child. See above. I tell my kid about everything. Even fetishes. (Maybe not all, but he sure knows some examples.) I tell it as it comes up, and sometimes preemptively.

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 372777)
I'm talking about THIS child. See above. I tell my kid about everything. Even fetishes. (Maybe not all, but he sure knows some examples.) I tell it as it comes up, and sometimes preemptively.


Um Tapu I never gave your kid a thought, I was refering to OP's nephew not Tapu's kid, what's your deal?

tapu 07-05-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 372785)
Um Tapu I never gave your kid a thought, I was refering to OP's nephew not Tapu's kid, what's your deal?

Huh? No, I meant where you said "children" need to learn about transgendering. I'm saying I totally agree and that mine does learn these things. But I'm saying that the general thing right for 'children" is not appropriate NOW in the situation with this child who is going to other relatives with his pain.

We're cool, I believe. Yes?

Okiebug61 07-05-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow (Post 372757)
Um Okie one does not have to transition to be know they are woman!
I'm sorry but you also need to educate yourself on transpeoples.

Lady Snow! Please do not assume you have the right to tell me on what subject matter I need to be educated on. The woman in question has point blank stated that she is not a woman, she just likes to id as a furry female and be addressed as a female. She does not embrace being a female what so ever, it is her way of gender fucking and she would be the first to tell you that.

I am now going to completely step away from conversing with you on this subject matter.

Peace!

Dreamer 07-05-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapu (Post 372773)
That sounds great if anyone can figure out what is going on at all. But right now, you have an acute situation. It's about where this kid is. Before you can sit down and explain the larger picture, you have to help him deal with the fact that he's in a desperate spot now. Of course, the underlying problem there is that they didn't approach the bigger picture with maturity and sensitivity to begin with. But right now, he is not reachable that way.

And I just want to establish now that anything that comes out of my mouth is necessarily my opinion. That's why I don't find it necessary to remind everyone.

Okay forgive me but from the original post.
"The poor kid is in the middle of full blown puberty and is having a huge problem with all of this. The furry wears a tale in public and the slave collar with a huge lock. The brother wears the key to the lock around his neck. It's embarrassing poor Nick and he doesn't want to go anywhere with his dad and the furry in public."

What I see is a kid embarrassed by his father and his current relationship. I am not sure this is acute or desperate and I do believe that sitting down with the child discussing things and educating him on different types of people in the world is not going to be damaging.

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:40 PM

:| then why refer to her as transgender? Sooo confused, maybe cross dresser? I dunno I'm now just as distraught as said child.. :goodluck:

The_Lady_Snow 07-05-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapu (Post 372794)
Huh? No, I meant where you said "children" need to learn about transgendering. I'm saying I totally agree and that mine does learn these things. But I'm saying that the general thing right for 'children" is not appropriate NOW in the situation with this child who is going to other relatives with his pain.

We're cool, I believe. Yes?


Shit Tapu at this point I'm confused!!! Thanks for clarifying though:)

kannon 07-05-2011 06:56 PM

Okie,
That age is very difficult. I’m sure the boy is embarrassed to deal with someone and something that is so out of the normal range of behavior. From the very limited amount of information you’ve provided, I would suggest discussing the issue with the mom and the dad. Maybe they can figure out what is really going on here.
It's just that your nephew is embarrassed to be seen with them, right? Maybe the child can openly discuss what’s going on with him. He can tell his dad he’s embarrassed and would rather not go out in public with them. Maybe his dad would make some concessions if he realizes how embarrassed and unprepared the child is to deal with this.
Would you be okay with your nephew spending time with the dad and partner if the child is okay with it?

kannon 07-05-2011 07:09 PM

The definition I found at urban dictionary:

Ok, an attempt at a balanced definition. I am NOT a furry but both sides hear me out before reaching for that thumbs down.

Furries are a relatively recent phenomenon which has been catapulted into near-mainstreamness almost solely because of the internet. It is obvious furries are very much victims of tarring the majority with the brush of an "unappealing" minority.

In the simplest sense furries are fans of anthropromorphic animals. That is, animals with human like features or tendencies (Fox McCloud, Sonic the Hedgehog... etc) pretty much all furries will create their own character or "fursona" for use as an art model and roleplaying, the designs of which vary wildly dependant on the artists skill and eye for contrasting colours (You get both amazing and appalling furry artists, and a wide skill range between these two) some furries can work wonders when it comes to creating a character on second life

The above paragraph is an apt description of your standard "furry", however there is a small but VERY vocal minority of the "yiff yiff" kind of division. Even though this sort of furry probably only takes up 1/10th of the fandom this is by FAR the type you hear about most often from anti-furry biased sources.

Furry porn is dangerously close to bestiality. Sorry to anyone who likes it, but it is... However the ones who like it seem to be in a minority, with the ones ...


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