I wonder if secrecy and confidentiality are the same thing for you. It's really not the same thing but I can see where you see it that way.

The chat room (in theory as it still is) I understood was open to anyone who wanted to participate, and that is what I still understand. I don't know anything else, really...and being able to see who is in the room is one thing, hearing or reading what is being said is quite another.

Your thread is great, I have posted in it and I am glad it's available to all, but do you see where some posters aren't comfortable with posting any details? That's okay right, but they still post to let us know they are there. That's a start. Posting in black and white is permanent. Like maybe it locks in your words and then it can't change...but that's not true, we know it can all change...good or bad (read trigger or healing) sometimes with just a well placed word, phrase or explanation...

I don't think anyone's abusers win when we the victims seek and find help. The abusers thought we could not do anything without them and we have, even starting this thread is a giant step in that direction. What I see about abusers in my mind and heart is that they are the ones who are royally messed up and in order to deal, they hurt others/us/everyone. (Hurt people hurt people) It's horrible to feel anything but anger towards them, but I do feel pity, and it's such a shame that they didn't have what we do...therapy, healing, hope...so now THEY are the sad little things in our memories and somewhere in our lives that don't have any more power over us...NO MORE!

I wish you all the best always...

Thank you so much!

But what if someone sees we are in that chat room and wants to be a part, but is not invited? It hurts my heart to think about it.

Does that make sense?

However, you have to remember that some folks have different motives than we do. We are survivors. We are recovering each day. Thank God above!

Some folks want to take our struggles and limitations to a different level and try to silence us so they have some attention that they are lacking in life. That is how I feel.

I don't know really, but I just don't feel much like being silenced ;)

Maybe the group can be worked out so no one feels bad. I hope so.

For me it is important to speak my truth when I need to and I hope that by not being ashamed of things that have happened in my life others will not feel so alone.

I hope you feel better! I've had the cough and headache for 3 weeks now. UGH.

So back to my triggers, laugh. :)

After pondering how to deal with Rocky the Cemetary Dude, I decided to get my sister to handle it. She quite likes telling people off in a nice way. :)

We can't just be rude because our whole family is buried there, and we will end up seeing Rocky the Cemetary Dude again soon...but not for my funeral.

:)

Um I agree with the courtesy thing, especially because I was thinking Apoc was part of creating the chat room people were talking about. I am confused but reading on.

I am confused, as well, because it seems that courtesy would have been involving the thread creator and participants rather than coming in and announcing the wonderful PTSD chat that only certain people were invited to.

I had two people contact me today about whether or not I was invited to the chat (which I was not), one of whom was pretty upset about it.

I'm not much of a chatter, but it sucks that other people who may have benefited from such a support are upset/ confused.

I hope that it gets cleared up and everyone can feel good about it. :)

Times are probably hard for everyone, but really do you need to have a cemetary telemarket you?!? This seems really rude on so many levels.

I am really glad to hear your sister is handling it for you. I too find it hard to deal with people politely in social situations when it is DIRECTLY related to my abusers and triggers. Sometimes I end up feeling badly for reacting from that panic or rage state of mind.

Instead of anyone asking questions evertyone lets their imaginations run wild and start making assumtions and uninformed statemtent. The chat room willbe open to ALL PTSD surviviors that need support. If u want to join, you PM and and you get the password. Simple as that. But everyone felt the need to put their 02. cents in when they really had NO clue how the group was going to be run. It is password protected because people dont want someone who has just wanted to go and have the regular chat I.E The Planet chatroom, to come into the PTSD chatroom and hear their private stuff. Sooo ANYONE that wants to discuss PTSD can get the password. It was ALL put in place so survivors could have confidentitality if THEY needed it. The open forum is awesome for people that are comfortable putting their stuff out in an open forum, some of us are not evolved in our PTSD journey and dont want it in an open forum. There is NOTHING opressive or elitist about than when its open to all members. And as far as breaching this forum thread, its already been discussed and there was NO advertising involved. Someone asked a question and it was answered and then it go bigger. Lets get back to aopcs original thread here and when the kinks have been worked out, an announcement in ANOTHER thread will be made. enough is enough. Do we have to dissect and pick apart every single things thats made public? And no the facilitators arent PHDs. They are people that have been thru PTSD themselves and want to help others. They are just there to make sure we dont sit there and not know what to say to each other. Just to help the convo along.

Chat rooms and following conversations are difficult. I personally think they suck for support groups but that is my opinion. I might suggest free phone conferencing where you can actually gather a group and talk with one another. They're free...

http://www.freeconference.com/conferencecall.aspx

If people have phones with unlimited long distance it is a much easier process than trying to follow a chat dialogue. In support sessions hearing a voice can make it all that much more personal. Just a suggestion.

In the future, if you again choose to quote me, I would appreciate it if you don't then vomit out all of your confusing frustration in my direction.

I directed nothing at you, I just made a general statement because I was confused and others are, as well. I didn't even mention most of those things you are complaining about in my post.

But thanks for clearing that all up. :)

Glad to hear the room was so meaningful and helpful for you princess4u. I am more confused now hearing that it is not open and not announced yet, but open to all who know to pm for a password. Seems that its already opened to me?? Hoping someone can explain whats really going on here in this thread and support chat rooms that arent really secret. At all..?

Amelia, sorry there seems to be such confusion. I didnt realize prior to that posting that the "chat group" hadnt been made public..i seriously doubt that there was ever any intent on making a by invite only group. I dont think that was the goal then nor now. I didnt have a positive experience that night and personally have no plans to continue with any support other than what we do here on the thread. I am not in charge of it, had nothingn to do with setting it up. I would think that whomever is taking control of this venue..will make sure that everyone is made aware of the when's and how's....I think we have a good outlet here in the thread and for those who would like open group discusson then the chat will perhaps meet their needs....We are seeming to get out of control here...and I am sorry if my post started all this....i was very upset and needed support from my PTSD community, so I reached out without knowing that it wasnt made known there was going to be a chat room for us. So please, everyone take a deep breath....we are here to love and support....when and if a chat room will be up and running will hopefully be made known once all the legistics are well thoughtout. Until then....we are still a community who needs one another. And that is why A made this thread......it is a strong foundation and forum for us to post our thoughts and feelings and cries for help. For only a PTSD sufferer can understand what another PTSD sufferer is going through. I know some ppl may feel cheated, or left out, or perhaps there is some click thing going on in the chat community...but that is not the case....just some ppl need different venues for their outlet.....thats all....plain and simple..perhaps it wasnt handled the best way.....that could be just from lack of knowledge .....we all live and learn....and most of all we are all human....lets not forget that....there was no dishonest or evil plots trying to unfold here............I love you all....I value your hearts, your pain, your friendship and kindness......lets stick together.....for some of us......this forum is all we have at this moment in time......much love and peace to all of us.....princess

Good....for....you!!! And thanks for your sincerity...

I never went to this "group" thing whatever it is. I only knew of it skimming through the last couple of pages. This is a thread to share our experiences and support as victims. PTSD is bitch and a bitch to talk about as it is. That group thing is alienating to the uninvited and uninformed, and from what it sounds like, not very workable. I'm glad people are sharing opinions against the idea and/or the meeting that didn't work for them. My .02.

Thank you for your input, Im sorry the whole thing just hit me wrong after seeing the passcode and hearing that certain people would not be allowed.

I appologize if I made you feel bad. Come and discuss or read any time :)



I had no idea.

Stuff affects me differently than my sister, for her making the call is empowering. :)


That is a great idea. Then, no one will feel left out and no one can SEE the chat room they are being excluded from! Thank you!