I'm calling the doc's office tomorrow, theres something really wrong here, meantime, relax and watch the game on ice off and on tonight.

I dinged this shoulder really good this time from doing upright rows with heavy weights. I'm mentioning this as a caution for anybody doing exercises with weights. I stretched and warmed up too. I'm really pissed about this because I've starting making gains with P90x. Now another delay.
*shakes head* You wouldn't believe how many excerises engages the shoulders. Almost all of them.

Not a nurse but maybe can help.

I seem to remember once you mentioned you have a juicer.

First read foods- pro-inflammatory food to avoid while healing. Trust me, this is huge and you'd never thing it.


http://nutrition.about.com/od/dietsf...inflamfood.htm

Now try juicing celery and drink as much as you can. Some people hate it. I drink it everyday with carrot juice. I also often juice organic spinach. Eat a lot of pears.

There has been major changes in my joints and back since doing this. If I overwork myself or twist something I stay away from tomatoes, potatos, foods I know might make it worse and increase anti-inflammatory fruits and veggies.

Then see if you can find biofreeze, run hot water over it 10 min if you can, dry and then apply the biofreeze

Dr. Perricone's List of pro-inflammatory foods.

Stay away from pro-inflammatory foods, which accelerate the aging process. A simple rule of thumb is to consider the following: If it contains flour, and/or sugar or other sweetener, it will be pro-inflammatory. Sugary, starchy foods are poor choices and will not only pack on excess pounds, they will make you look older than your years.

Bagels
Breads, rolls, baked goods
Candy
Cake
Cookies
Cereals (except old fashioned oatmeal)
Cornstarch
Corn bread, corn muffins
Corn syrup
Crackers
Croissants
Doughnuts
Egg rolls
Fast food
French Fries
Fruit juice—choose the fruit instead
Fried foods
Flour
Granola
Hard cheese (except for feta and grating cheeses, such as Romano and Parmesan)
Honey
Hot dogs
Ice cream, frozen yogurt, Italian ices
Jams, jellies and preserves
Margarine
Molasses
Muffins
Noodles
Pancakes
Pastry
Pie
Pita bread
Pizza
Pasta
Popcorn
Potatoes
Pudding
Relish
Rice
Sherbet
Shortening
Snack foods, including: potato chips, pretzels, corn chips, rice and corn cakes, etc.
Soda
Sugar
Tacos
Tortillas
Waffles

Fortunately I don't eat anything on the list except rice (brown)

Sachita, I don't own a juicer and I don't care for pears. Thanks for the information though. My shoulder is a little better today having iced it off and on last night. Now it feels like a "kink." I can't see a doc until; the 5th, the medical clinic doesn't take my insurance. So, I'm going to have to tough this out.

I did upright rows and corkscrew curls. I should have backed off the weight and didn't. But at the time, It didn't feel like anything was wrong. Let this be a lesson.

omg make a list of what we should eat :(

:police:Why is that butch squatting in the curl rack eating a Dove bar?:|

I dunno, who is that butch?

Does Muscle Weigh More Than Fat?

A pound of muscle, a pound of fat: What's the difference?
By Martica Heaner, M.A., M.Ed., for MSN Health & Fitness


Q. Does muscle really weigh more than fat? I am a trainer and am frequently asked this question by members of my gym. I have heard conflicting reports and can’t seem to find the right answer.

A. No, muscle does not weigh more than fat. A pound of muscle weighs exactly the same as a pound of fat—they both weigh one pound!

This commonly cited gym cliché is somewhat misunderstood and misused. The rationale that muscle weighs more than fat is often cited as an explanation for why a person might find that they aren’t losing weight, or are gaining weight, when they kick off an exercise regimen. The idea seems to be that if you are exercising—and theoretically losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time—the effects cancel each other out. So, in theory, you won’t see desired weight loss as measured by pounds on the scale, even though you may be improving how you look.

You certainly can improve your appearance with exercise without always seeing a change in your body weight—by becoming firmer, more sculpted and sometimes leaner. But that doesn’t mean that you are gaining massive amounts of muscle, or losing lots of fat.

Muscle Does Not Turn To Fat

Some people believe that if they start working out they turn their fat into muscle or that, if they stop working out, their muscle will turn into fat. Neither is true; each tissue is distinctly different. You can gain muscle or lose weight, and you can gain or lose more body fat, but they don’t convert into each other. Both gaining and losing muscle and/or fat can both affect your body weight on the scale, depending upon the magnitude of the body fat or body muscle increase or decrease.

To gain significant amounts of muscle, you not only have to do the type of exercise that stimulates muscle growth—progressive and intense resistance training—you also have to eat more calories than normal to fuel the process. Most people who exercise, especially women, do not perform resistance training at this level, nor do they eat more to try to build muscle. Even if they did, it could take many months to increase muscle mass by just a few pounds.

Body Fat Tests

Some people get their body fat tested at the gym, either by using skin calipers or a portable, step-on, body-fat scale. These measurements may show shifts in muscle-to-fat ratios, making it appear that a person has gained pounds of muscle and lost pounds worth of fat, whether or not the normal body-weight scale registers any big changes. Whether these potentially large changes in fat and muscle mass are accurate is up for debate.

On the body-fat scale, for example, you can get a dramatically different estimate of these figures from the same “weigh-in” based on whether you are input as a “normal” person or an “athlete.” So at the exact same moment a scale may show that you are at 18 percent body fat or at 27 percent body fat, for example. This large discrepancy is because the formulas used in these types of machines to calculate your measurements are based on estimates.

And there’s always a “standard deviation” in these estimated readings from calipers and body-fat scales. In other words, your result may not be as specific as you think it is, it falls within a range.

Why Doesn’t Exercise Always Affect Body Weight?

If someone is working out and not losing weight, or not losing as much as they want—or if they’re actually gaining weight—the first place to look is the type and amount of exercise.

Weight loss boils down to burning more calories than you normally use in a day. Cardio exercise burns more calories than muscle-toning or the average resistance-training workout. So dialing down the stretching and core work to just once or twice a week, and replacing it with more cardio should produce more weight loss. And the more minutes the better when it comes to weight loss: An hour to 90 minutes of aerobic activity per day on most days of the week will affect body weight.

Some people get overly obsessed about numbers on the scale. If you are happy with the way you look and feel, and you feel like you are improving your fitness and strength, then continue doing what you are doing. Exercise works, and every minute of movement helps your health in some way. Weight loss through working out may be slower than you want, but it’s likely to be longer term solution and a healthier way to trim down and shape up, or at the very least to stave off weight gain over the years.

More from Martica on MSN Health & Fitness.

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Martica Heaner, Ph.D., M.A., M.Ed., is a Manhattan-based exercise physiologist and nutritionist, and an award-winning fitness instructor and health writer. She has a Ph.D. in behavioral nutrition and physical activity from Columbia University, and is also a NASM-certified personal trainer. She has written hundreds of articles for publications such as Self , Health , Prevention , The New York Times and others. Martica is the author of eight books, including her latest, Cross-Training for Dummies.

LOL...hy has already done the torture thing by getting my hooked on cycling. At first I was like, You want to do what? Climb what? hahaha

Last night, we were discussing the swimming thing. We came up with the idea of getting a ball (like a dodge ball or kick ball) and and holding it with my left hand against my abdomen and of course hold the kick board with the right hand. The ball will hopefully balance me while kicking. Hy also thinks the ball will help work the core since you will be trying to balance.

<grumbling> at ROM and muscle testing


LOL

Well, no doc until the 5th.
So here's what I've done to relieve the pain:
Ice for couple of days and then ice and heat to loosen up my shoulder going into the bicep. Ibuprofen and slowly and gradually moving my arm in various directions like circles and reaches. The pain is sill there but not as bad.

The clinic closest to me doesn't take my insurance. i'm doing what I can on my own.

My own workouts are going pretty well. I'm right on track as far as all my goals for Jan. 1 are concerned. Still got my routine split up into 5 days a week with some new tweaks here and there. Monday - isolating Hamstrings/Glutes, Tuesday - Back/Chest, Wednesday - Legs, Thursday - Shoulders, Friday - Biceps/Triceps

As far as cardio, I'm doing 4 days a week lately, doing a lot of skipping and rowing since I still can't do treadmill sprints like I used to with the knee. I'm really liking the rowing though, and hope to make my 10,000 metre goal in 15 mins soon. Hopefully I'll be able to go back to practice soon...I thought I was gonna be able to go back a month ago, but the damned knee still bugs me.

Just noticed this now. It is possible that stretching may have been your problem, Jet. How long did you hold the stretch? Generally, holding a stretch more than 10 seconds before working out (talking about strength training here) is a bad idea. It elongates the muscle (especially with a 20 - 40 second hold) and if you're into serious lifting, a more compact muscle is less prone to injury than an elongated muscle.

The best warm-up for strength training is either a dynamic warm-up or a warm-up doing precisely what it is you're going to be working on that day. F.ex. if you're on a shoulder day then doing 1 or 2 sets of 10-12 reps with 50-60 % or your 1 rep max. If you're doing squats then squat etc. Makes you much less prone to injury. Unless I'm feeling especially tight I skip even a 10 second hold, then follow up my workout with stretching and foam rollers afterward.

And yeah, totally get ya on the "can't believe how many exercises involve this muscle" thing. When I screwed up my knee in a match this summer I nearly had to stop working out altogether for a few weeks. My knee was somehow engaged in 70% of every exercise. Same when I managed to tweak my mid trap doing jump squat pullups a month or so back...tried to carry on with at least the chest component of my workout and couldn't even lie down properly for a bench press lol Of course the jump squat pull-ups were my warm-up, which meant that whole workout was botched lol

I injured my shoulder doing upright rows, nothing more

Me and my younger sister are both naturally skinny, and unfortunately [yes, i want to GAIN weight] everything I eat doesn't stink. I don't know where it goes. According to Marine Corps standards I am 4 pounds from being underweight. It is mandatory for us to workout as a unit 3 times a week. That's all I do. It keeps me toned and that's all I need. I don't want to work out on my own unless its some crazy workout that will give me a few pounds. I'm 5'8" and 128lbs.

[QUOTE=*euniique*;202607]Me and my younger sister are both naturally skinny, and unfortunately [yes, i want to GAIN weight] everything I eat doesn't stink. I don't know where it goes. According to Marine Corps standards I am 4 pounds from being underweight. It is mandatory for us to workout as a unit 3 times a week. That's all I do. It keeps me toned and that's all I need. I don't want to work out on my own unless its some crazy workout that will give me a few pounds. I'm 5'8" and 128lbs.[/QUOT

OOOPs my bad..the last post I put in didnt works as I intended for it too sorry.
What I ment to say was...try some southern cooking it never fails to put weight on a body,im liveing proof.

you gotta be kidding. It's cholesterol-heart attack city. One of my dearest friends is an Executive Chef in North Carolina. She told me that the Obits columns are full of people who died in their 40s because of the fats and cholesterol in southern cooking. I personally won't touch it except maybe once a year. And she refuses to serve it in her restaurant. She wont; even serve sweet tea. I have yet to taste sweet tea.

Jet
 

I didnt say southern cooking was good for you,but that anyone can gain weight eating it.

Its a good thing you never tried sweet tea, you would be hooked!!! LoL

Yoga is amazing. The strength, agility and balance required are incredible. I love watching people who have mastered yoga.

Ah, the plight of the ectomorph :p Have you tried cutting down weight training workouts to about 30 - 45 mins? Usually ectomorphs burn fuel pretty fast, so working out more than an hour without getting some quality food in doesn't help. Other than lifting heavy for shorter periods, try adding more protein to your diet if you're not already, and try to time the protein intake to post-workout, when you wake up in the morning and before bed. I'd also make sure to get in a good pre-workout meal/snack. If you're going to do any cardiovascular training, I'd carb up before hand.

There are some good articles on www.bodybuilding.com as far as ectomorph training/diet. Doesn't mean you have to become a bodybuilding, lol, but they definitely do have some good advice on defeating certain predispositions. Good luck!

you don't know if she's ectomorph, maybe its metabolism or something medical. I wouldn't speculate with anybody here.

An extremely fast metabolism resulting in difficulty putting on weight is the primary and determining characteristic of a natural ectomorph. They wouldn't be ectomorphs otherwise, just as the defining characteristic of a true endomorph is a naturally extremely slow metabolism resulting in a difficulty in losing weight.

She wrote:

I didn't assume a medical issue because she stated that she was naturally skinny (unless it's an inheritable disease like Cystic Fibrosis, in which case a similar approach would also help). If there is a serious medical issue, obviously that would be an entirely different story. She didn't give reason to assume, so I didn't.