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*Anya* 12-06-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481042)
Smoking can make nipples fall off

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/1...f/?hpt=hp_bn10

I wonder if there are smokers who will read that and think, Well, that does it! I go on the patch, starting tomorrow. Maybe I'll be able to avoid that cancer and heart disease and COPD, too. That'd be a plus.

tapu, only you would find this! WTF! As an RN I did not even know this. This is some scary shit.

Smoking is extremely addictive. I do not know that this information would assist in smoking cessation but I do hope so.

1-800-nobutts is a free service to assist smokers in quiting.

Toughy 12-06-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481042)
Smoking can make nipples fall off

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/1...f/?hpt=hp_bn10

I wonder if there are smokers who will read that and think, Well, that does it! I go on the patch, starting tomorrow. Maybe I'll be able to avoid that cancer and heart disease and COPD, too. That'd be a plus.

How about a little sanity here.........from the article:

I cringe every time I see a patient for a breast lift who is a smoker. I’m deathly afraid that despite my warnings, she will smoke before or after surgery and cause her nipples to turn black and fall off.

Yes. Smokers who undergo breast lifts are at great risk of losing their nipples.



This is about re-positioning nipples post surgery. My guess is this would also apply to folks who undergo chest reconstruction and mastectomy. It is well known among medical folk that ANY post surgery healing is compromised if you smoke.

So.......your nipples are not gonna fall off if you smoke and don't have any kind of breast surgery.

I hate overblown scare/fear tactics.

Cin 12-06-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 481093)
I hate overblown scare/fear tactics.

Well you're living in the wrong place and time...

Cin 12-06-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 481093)

So.......your nipples are not gonna fall off if you smoke and don't have any kind of breast surgery.

That big whoosh you just heard was a collective sigh from Europe.

Montreal was pretty relieved as well.

Toughy 12-06-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Tick (Post 481097)
Well you're living in the wrong place and time...

........ok I snorted coffee out my nose on my keyboard.........thanks ever so much........laughin.....

Cin 12-06-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by *Anya* (Post 481070)
Smoking is extremely addictive.

I quit drinking, drugging and smoking and I can say that during the unfolding of an uneventful day i might think about having a cigarette once or twice. Certainly much more often than i ever think about a drink. I rarely think about dope anymore at all. However, once I think about a drink or a drug I have to follow the thought through and give it some attention, that's not necessary with cigarettes. I'm not sure if that's the nature of the various addictions or if I just have more fear surrounding my alcohol and drug addictions.

Sorry for the derail. No breaking news event here.

betenoire 12-06-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 481093)
So.......your nipples are not gonna fall off if you smoke and don't have any kind of breast surgery.

Well this sucks because I was totally considering a boob job.

No. I wasn't.

I have no idea what non-smokers do while they're waiting at a bus stop. Do they just STAND there? Ugh.

DapperButch 12-06-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 481093)
How about a little sanity here.........from the article:

I cringe every time I see a patient for a breast lift who is a smoker. I’m deathly afraid that despite my warnings, she will smoke before or after surgery and cause her nipples to turn black and fall off.

Yes. Smokers who undergo breast lifts are at great risk of losing their nipples.



This is about re-positioning nipples post surgery. My guess is this would also apply to folks who undergo chest reconstruction and mastectomy. It is well known among medical folk that ANY post surgery healing is compromised if you smoke.

So.......your nipples are not gonna fall off if you smoke and don't have any kind of breast surgery.

I hate overblown scare/fear tactics.

Yes, I have heard from various people (here and IRL), that plastic surgeons warn of this prior to chest reconstruction. Smoking also increases the amount of scaring one has, for the same reasons. I have seen this motivate some transguys to quit prior to surgery, as many don't want their chest surgery to be evident.

tapu 12-06-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 481093)
How about a little sanity here.........from the article:

I cringe every time I see a patient for a breast lift who is a smoker. I’m deathly afraid that despite my warnings, she will smoke before or after surgery and cause her nipples to turn black and fall off.

Yes. Smokers who undergo breast lifts are at great risk of losing their nipples.



This is about re-positioning nipples post surgery. My guess is this would also apply to folks who undergo chest reconstruction and mastectomy. It is well known among medical folk that ANY post surgery healing is compromised if you smoke.

So.......your nipples are not gonna fall off if you smoke and don't have any kind of breast surgery.

I hate overblown scare/fear tactics.



Wow, serious buzzkill. :(

AtLast 12-06-2011 02:28 PM

OWS sentiments at work-
 
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/12/gov_scott_walker_says_recall_election_is_likely.ph p

Gov. Scott Walker: Recall election is likely
It's been little more than two weeks since foes of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker began petitioning for a recall, and they've already surpassed 300,000 signatures -- more than half of the 540,000 needed by the January 17 deadline.

If they keep progressing at this pace, a recall election will be inevitable. Even Walker says it's likely.

"My guess is they probably will" collect the necessary signatures, Walker told CNBC yesterday. "If you look at other states, if they pay 10,000 people to come in, which they can legally do, they'll probably get those signatures."

Walker made a lengthy list of enemies before he was even sworn into office. The push for a recall began shortly after he was elected, even though his opponents couldn't begin gathering signatures until November 15 of this year.

The anti-Walker movement hit the 300,000 mark after only 12 days of petitioning, according to its website, United Wisconsin to Recall Walker. From the site:

We are excited to announce that in the first 12 days, volunteers across the state have collected over 300,000 signatures to Recall Scott Walker. Over 300,000 signatures in 12 days-that is over 1,040 per hour!
Our work is not done yet, so to all of the passionate volunteers who have been collecting signatures throughout the state: Keep it up!!!


The anti-Walker movement has until January to collect 540,000 signatures.
​In the CNBC interview, Walker devalues the movement against him by pointing out that even if they do get the necessary signatures, it doesn't amount to the majority of Wisconsin voters.

"Their goal is to get about 670,000," he says. "And remember, that's still just a fraction, that's about 25 percent of all the votes cast in the last gubernatorial election. So minority voters will get to force a new election in Wisconsin. And assuming they're legitimate voters...that'll force a new election costing millions of dollars to the taxpayers this spring in Wisconsin."

But if it does come to that, Walker says he's ready. He's even welcoming the chance to brag about what he's done in Wisconsin so far this year.

"I look forward to that," he says. "I'd love to have the chance to talk to the voters of Wisconsin again, to tell that story. "

[HT: Politico]



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To me, the underpinnings of the OWS movement began in WS's backlash against Walker and other GOP Govenors elected in 2010. Seeing the WS statehouse being under seige by demonstrators and the Democratic senators leaving the state to stop voting on Walker's anti-union legislation had to help move people into the streets all over the country.

Toughy 12-06-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481278)
Wow, serious buzzkill. :(

the truth is a buzzkill??? Good...makes me happy

tapu 12-06-2011 05:34 PM

The pleasure is all mine. :)

Toughy 12-06-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481424)
The pleasure is all mine. :)

so fear mongering is a pleasure you claim......it is not my pleasure but..in the spirit of idiots can say what they want.....good on ya

tapu 12-06-2011 06:05 PM

Did she just call me an idiot?

Okay, ya got me. Let's not get June and Medusa in here. Peace.

Toughy 12-06-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481438)
Did she just call me an idiot?

Okay, ya got me. Let's not get June and Medusa in here. Peace.


chicken...........

HoustonHuny 12-06-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapu (Post 481278)
Wow, serious buzzkill. :(

Oh, not at all...I'd rather have my smokes than my nipples, although...purple nipples sound pretty cool. Love this thread! :cheesy:

Corkey 12-06-2011 07:59 PM

http://peacefreedomprosperity.com/56...endment-right/

Federal court rules it is a first amendment right to video tape police in public space.

DapperButch 12-06-2011 09:19 PM

Obama Admin to Consider Gay Rights When Allocating Foreign Aid
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1..._lnk2%7C118130

MsDemeanor 12-07-2011 03:41 AM

I thoroughly enjoyed today's banter-fest. My favorites:
I have no idea what non-smokers do while they're waiting at a bus stop. Do they just STAND there? Ugh.

Let's not get June and Medusa in here.

chicken...........
:goodscore:

MsDemeanor 12-07-2011 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Corkey;481521[SIZE=4
Federal court rules it is a first amendment right to video tape police in public space.[/SIZE]

Not to worry, the Supremes can take care of this pesky little ruling....


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