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job 01-09-2016 01:43 AM

1. You must love animals. And I don't mean eating them. How you treat animals tells me pretty much everything I need to know about you.

2. Honesty. Even if you think I won't like it, just say it. If I don't know how you really feel then nothing between us is accurate or real.

3. Want me. If you can take me or leave me, then I don't want you. I don't want to be replaceable.

Good hygiene and a dirty mind are gimmes...

storyspinner70 01-09-2016 01:51 AM

1. Must have a good voice: You can look like a supermodel and sound horrible and I'm not having it. No. How things sound matter a lot to me. Just couldn't do it. I got super lucky in that regard.

2. Have to be clever or intelligent: Again, I got lucky and my butch is both.

That's pretty much my two main requirements. The rest will sift out with time and we'll work it out as it comes up.

lucid 01-30-2016 06:48 AM

My favorite response to this question is "H.O.T."

H. = Housing
O. = Occupation
T. = Transportation

my response is more nuanced, but hot is a good start!

:fireworks:

imperfect_cupcake 01-30-2016 01:28 PM

After some rethinking its

1) patience. If you want instant intensity and passion, it's not me. I want to slowly get to know someone before I decide, before you decide, what we want to do. I may feel a deep attraction, but for me that has never proved a good basis for anything. I have felt deep attraction for people who have turned out to be narcissists, or alcoholics, or addicts, or people with untreated BPD co morbid with bipolar.
Just because I feel attraction does not mean I will go forward with it. And many times attraction takes me a a while to feel because I'm emotionally slow and reserved. If I'm poked at, the only emotion I reveal is irritation and anger.

You have to have the patience. It's ok to be unsure yourself. It's ok to take your time to decide if we are good for each other. I get it. And for the love of fuck, we don't have to have a conversation about it every time we get together, or every time we talk.

It's also ok that we don't do everything according to societal dictates in what "couples should do". And that you have the calm patience to allow what we do to evolve slowly, organically and without pushing.

2) humour. Our humour has to match. I can't stress how important that is.

3) confidence. You are confident enough to give me my independance and know that you still take centre stage in a romantic view. Work comes first for me, my career is my meaning, my love and a passion. It keeps me sane and happy. I won't put my career at risk.
so there are things I can't do that other people can because they aren't a Health Worker under scrutiny by a government agency.
This doesn't threaten you.
My independance doesn't threaten you or make you feel small or unimportant. You "get" that about me. You understand how fiercely loyal I am and that it doesn't have to translate into constant attention/reassurance cycles. You don't pick arguments to get my attention, to get me to talk to you when I'm busy or when I need quiet, down time.
Coming up and just laying next to me and reading your own book, watching a movie with headphones on, or writing your own stuff, with an ankle over mine is just fine.
But sometimes I also want alone time.
And not seeing me for a few days, you aren't constantly worried about what I'm up to, what I am doing, why haven't I contacted you in the last five hours.
Confidence.

kittygrrl 01-30-2016 03:33 PM

In browsing i found this interesting..
 
Discover how compatible the two of you are


December 10, 2013
how-secure-do-you-feel




According to the Enneagram, you can find out how compatible you are with your partner quite simply by checking out what they called your “Instincts”

We are each endowed with 3 specific instincts that are necessary for our survival. While we have all 3 instincts in us, one of them is our dominant focus. Then we have a second instinct that is used to support the dominant instinct, as well as a third one, which is least developed – a real blind spot in our personality and our values.

These form what they call our “stack”.

Our instinct priority has a huge impact on how compatible we feel with our partner.

If two people have the same first instinct, they are much more likely to get along easily since their basic values and outlook on life are congruent.

Conversely, if your stack is completely opposite to your partner’s, then you can expect tensions and conflicts. Each of you will usually be trying to convert the other.

Most importantly, a healthy balance of all instincts is important. So, if yours is a different stack to your partners, rather than fight about it, you can seek to understand and acknowledge the wisdom in each, learning from each other, and how compatible are youcreating a better balance for both of you. Here are the 3 Instincts:



1. Self Preservation Instinct.

People of this Instinctual type are focused on enhancing their personal security and physical comfort, and can be preoccupied with the basic survival needs, for example, money, food, housing, health, physical safety and comfort. Being safe and physically comfortable are priorities, and they will often bring their supplies with them.

When entering a room, they will tend to notice lighting, uncomfortable chairs, the room temperature, when the coffee break will be, and whether they will like the food provided.

These people often have issues connected with food and drink, either overdoing it or having strict dietary requirements.

They tend also to be the most practical in the sense of taking care of basic life necessities like paying the bills, maintaining the home and workplace, acquiring useful skills.

If this is an instinct that you have least developed, you may not eat or sleep properly, and can lack the drive to accumulate wealth or property, or even care about such matters. Also time and resource management will typically be neglected, often with seriously detrimental effects to your own careers, social life and material well being.



2. Intimacy / Sexual Instinct.

People of this type have a strong desire for intensity of experience and intimacy. This intensity could be found in great conversation or a great movie. The direct riveting gaze is the dead give- away for people of this type.

When they enter a room they gravitate toward people they feel magnetized to, regardless of the person’s potential for helping them or their social standing. It is as if they are looking for the juice.

These people can be intimacy junkies, and have a strong desire to fuse with someone, often neglecting pressing obligations or even basic maintenance if they are swept up in something that has captivated them. This gives a wide ranging exploratory approach to life, but also a lack of focus on one’s own priorities.

If this is the area that is least developed, you will find you avoid intimacies as much as you can, finding ways to not get up close and personal with people.



3. Social Instinct.

People of this type are focused on their interactions with other people and with the sense of value and esteem they derive from their participation in group activities. These include work, family, hobbies and clubs, or any arena in which you can interact with others for some shared purpose. They understand their own and other peoples sense of place in the hierarchy of groups, and can desire attention, recognition, honor, success, fame, leadership and appreciation, as well as the security of being part of something larger than themselves

On entering a room, these people would immediately be aware of the power structures and subtle politics between the different people and groups. They are subconsciously focused on other’s reaction to them, particularly about whether they are being accepted or not.

They need to know what is going on in their world; they need to touch base with others to feel safe alive and energized.

In general they tend to enjoy interacting with people, but they avoid intimacy. They are the most extroverted of the types.

If you have this as your least developed instinct, you will have a lack of interest socially beyond your immediate needs, with very few friends, and will not be very interested in people. You also disregard the opinions of others very easily. You feel you do not need others and others do not need you, thus there may be frequent misunderstandings with others.

It can be interesting to find out what both your own stack is, and also that of your partners’.

This can give you some great information about whether you feel compatible or not, and what you can do about it. For more help in understanding how these forces work in your relationship, come and discover more in our relationship counselling sessions at the Hart Centre.

Gayandgray 03-05-2016 02:21 PM

1) no lying. 2) no cheating. 3) never hit me or you will regret it

MsTinkerbelly 03-05-2016 02:37 PM

Loves me
Loves my child
Thinks I rock the world

Does anything else really matter?

I'm kidding, of course there are other things:

Don't hit me
Don't fight dirty
Be kind to strangers

Chad 03-05-2016 03:38 PM

Non-negotiables
 
Always the same 3

No cheating
No lying
No drugs

I would like to add no stealing and no freeloading but it says 3.

Women are beautiful, sweet, yummy humans and that is who I want in my life.

Poss 06-23-2016 08:50 AM

I keep it simple ...it's all about values and ethics for me
 
No lying, cheating or stealing,

Things I learnt long ago:
1. If/when your love for me runs dry; say so and move on rather than lie to me, cheat on me and steal from me.
2. Deep and honest communication is paramount; between the sheets as well as at the kitchen table.
3. Love me as I love you in an awakened state of universal consciousness.

TL1 06-23-2016 09:34 AM

Where did this come from? Many good answers.... It's hard to pick 3.


1. Gets me (Because I am different and weird and complex among other things)
2. Nice and sense of humor (hopefully no one needs explanation to that one...and yes I did sneak that extra one in.)
3. Likes to receive (I'm a total giver)

But I want to do a 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 too... Damn. Can we post more than one post with three different things each? Lol

kittygrrl 06-27-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL1 (Post 1072108)
Where did this come from? Many good answers.... It's hard to pick 3.



But I want to do a 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 too... Damn. Can we post more than one post with three different things each? Lol

Yes..3 is only one number :)

JDeere 07-30-2016 08:10 PM

I am going to add here

Cheating
Stealing
Drugs

homoe 07-30-2016 08:13 PM

:readfineprint:

1. Smokers............
2. Alcholics.............
3. Druggies...........

Bčsame* 07-30-2016 10:05 PM

Don't be controlling!

flapdoodle 07-30-2016 10:08 PM

communication

my space

no addictions

homoe 08-03-2016 07:52 PM

1. Being a "know it all"
2. NEVER admitting to being wrong!
3. It's YOUR way or the highway!

Sweet Bliss 08-04-2016 09:21 AM

patience

enjoys my touch

plays fair

JDeere 08-06-2016 07:28 PM

Seems like there is a common theme with some of us on this thread LOL

C0LLETTE 08-06-2016 08:23 PM

no shoplifting
no stiffing servers
no psychobabbling

DapperButch 08-06-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1080796)
no shoplifting
no stiffing servers
no psychobabbling

Damn it. I'm out.

C0LLETTE 08-06-2016 09:21 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

DapperButch 08-06-2016 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1080821)
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

And, seriously...shoplifting? Do you come across this much, or just being funny?

C0LLETTE 08-06-2016 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 1080822)
And, seriously...shoplifting? Do you come across this much, or just being funny?

Was an attempt at humour.

kittygrrl 08-07-2016 12:31 AM

kind
thoughtful
unconditional

clay 08-07-2016 05:32 AM


free spirited

able to laugh at yourself

have a kind, gentle, loving heart

DapperButch 08-07-2016 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1080825)
Was an attempt at humour.

I always get hot and bothered when I see Canadian spellings.

TL1 08-07-2016 08:36 AM

- no games (I'm too old for that shit. Just be real in the way you talk and act. I do not like being confused as it makes me want to give up.)
- must be clean.
- likes to play and have fun but knows how to be serious. Can make me a priority as I would them. Otherwise don't bother.

Gemme 08-07-2016 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1080825)
Was an attempt at humour.

Some of us....*eyeballs Dapper*...got it.

For me, I don't like being made an accessory in a crime without my permission.

If it feels like you might be the getaway driver, you probably are.

:pirate-steer:

:blink:

Blade 08-07-2016 10:10 AM

To much drama
No jealousy
Must love day trips

DapperButch 08-07-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 1080885)
Some of us....*eyeballs Dapper*...got it.

For me, I don't like being made an accessory in a crime without my permission.

If it feels like you might be the getaway driver, you probably are.

:pirate-steer:

:blink:

Be nice to me! :shocking:

I got it, I just wanted to make sure...

Lecheloco 08-07-2016 10:59 AM

Must be happy for the most part

Knows how to carry themselves in various situations and /or company.

Kind loving and compassionate

Gemme 08-07-2016 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch (Post 1080904)
Be nice to me! :shocking:

I got it, I just wanted to make sure...

Don't tell me what to do!

:blink:

anotherbutch 08-07-2016 06:33 PM

must not be judgemental ...

must be independent, have your own interests....

must not be clingy, smothering......

Sweet Bliss 08-10-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE (Post 1080796)
no shoplifting
no stiffing servers
no psychobabbling


:rrose::rrose::rrose:

Sweet Bliss 08-10-2016 06:24 PM

unwilling to step up without being asked

playing stupid

not taking care of my pets when I'm in the hospital.

tantalizingfemme 12-06-2016 06:03 PM

Cheating
Lying
Lying about cheating

easygoingfemme 12-06-2016 07:51 PM

Trust me (and be trustable)
Respect me (and be respectable)
Know how to have fun and be happy

Soft*Silver 12-06-2016 08:45 PM

must be able to read me and respond appropriately as often as humanely possible

keep the drama on stage and what does come in our house, let it be from others, not from each other

faithfulness of committment. I am now in a poly marriage that allows other partners, sexual and otherwise. But our core relationship never falters.

*Anya* 12-06-2016 08:47 PM

Demonstrating:

1. Cruelty

2. Narcissism

3. Lack of empathy (see number 2)

4. Zero insight into self

Ok, 4 but I could keep on going

Medusa 12-06-2016 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 489031)
3 Musts for me:

1. MUST be a stable adult: For me, this means they have a checking account, a stable place to live, and a job of some sort. This doesn't have to mean they have tons of money but it does mean that they would pay their car insurance over buying a new xbox if it came down to it.

2. They must be hella smart with a wicked sense of humor. Smart enough to call me on my shit and funny enough to poke at the irony of it in the first place.

3. They must be honest in every way.



I posted the above almost exactly 5 years ago and it's pretty amazing that my top 3 musts haven't changed.

I'll expand a little as well.

1. On being a stable adult - I want to include emotional stability there as well. I want kindness, an ability to be introspective, the ability to take personal responsibility, an aversion to blaming everyone and everything around you for your behavior, and the ability to wake up with general gratitude every day. Basically, I don't expect my partner to be all kittens and rainbows but I expect them to know themselves, to know their own triggers, and to be able to cope in healthy ways.

2. On being hella smart - They must also be evolved in ways that allow them to dismantle any privilege they have, to be able to meet other people exactly where they are (or leave them where they are), and to be able to "big picture" when they need to. I want analytical thinking when needed punctuated by those moments where we are guffawing with hysterical laughter at the stupidest shit in the world. Oh, and must laugh at farts.

3. Honesty. Non-negotiable. Emotional honest as well as verbal honesty. Knowing that omitting a crucial fact is dishonest.


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