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Haircut prices = DUMB!
Does anyone else get annoyed that women are charged more than guys for haircuts? I can understand if the girl has long hair or a demanding style. But if she has short hair that requires as much effort and essentially is- a guy's cut she should be charged the same.
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Yes, I get annoyed by that.
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It bothers me also.
Now I go to a barbershop where its always the same price. |
i guess it depends on how you look at it. generally a pricing structure at a salon is just a basic guideline. and haircuts for women regardless of length or "demanding" style is irrelevant. for the most part, when booking a woman for an appointment it will take more time (due to styling, length, etc). now if you develop a relationship with your stylist by being a good client they may realize that your service is less time or fuss and charge accordingly. so you are paying for time, experience and service. now you can always avoid what you view as an "unfair high price" by going to barber shop that doesn't do all the styling that a salon does or a chop shop (super cuts/fantastic sams) where even a shampoo is ala carte. just remember that the person cutting your hair does not make the full amount on your service...sometimes it's 40% sometimes more and in some cases they get paid a paltry hourly wage. now if you want to talk about unfair pricing... let's talk about dry cleaning ;)
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I don't think I have ever had anything dry-cleaned. I suppose if I did I would just go in and give them what needed cleaning and pay in cash so they would assume I was a guy and charge me less. Stickin it to da man lol.
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1st sign Joe Blow's Salon ( not real name as i forgot it) 2nd sign Men's haircut $10 3rd sign Women's haircut $18 Now.. with an appropriately raised and furrowed brow, I asked the wifey if I should go in there and ask for a man's cut. I get a men's cut. So.. am I going to pay 18 for a Caesar when the guy next to me gets the same cut for 10? Dunno, but if they are open when we go back up Sunday, we'll see how it rolls out ( if i can wait that long, coz i am lookin like a damned hippie) No offense all y'all hippies out there... I just get twitchy when the hair touches my ear. grrrrr Dry cleaners defined the subtle difference between "shirt" and "blouse". I think it's about four bucks... GRRRRRR |
i recently decided to stand my ground about the whole mens and ladies pricing thing... regardless of the fact that if i had just stfu i wouldve passed and gotten the 5 dollar savings...
barbers are so much better... its just hard in GA to find the ones that i can deal with that look in their eye when they have scissors in their hands... as for the dry cleaning... at least they go by the fact... if your buttons are on the correct side it is priced one way... no matter who brings it in... |
It's nice that in CA gender pricing for dry cleaning and hair cuts is illegal. Now if they could just do the same for big ticket items like auto insurance and health insurance.
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true..
it is very annoying. Unless I give my birth name, I squeeze by and recieve a gentleman's pricing... This last time, I did muse about the price difference and the "why", while watching a gentleman give the Stylist more directions than a fuckin' GPS on the Jersey turnpike. I finished before he did... He kept interrupting "No, not that one..I want #3, I always get #3 on that part/Try to make the nape into 'Duck tail'" And the stylist was pissed with him, sending My stylist "s.o.s" glances... I say stylist cuz there's maybe ...2 decent barbers in my town, and both were closed that day {figures}, sooo I was stuck... By the time I got my wallet out, My stylist was dealing with his ass..and I got a discount +compliment {that's a lovely color of red * me = bashful smile, staying quiet*}... I much prefer barbers, good price, colorful jokes, nice porn magazines {i'll never understand that part...youre reading porn while waiting for a haircut, whatre ya gonna do? say "excuse me, where's the bathroom"??} Eventually I'll find a certified Barber school, maybe open my own gender neutral place... As for dry cleanin.....I have a black "hot topic" long coat that needs it, I'm petrified of the prices ["be afraid...be very very afraid"~ geena davis *the fly*] |
I think it really depends on where you go. If you go to a place like first choice haircuts it just depends on what you want done. Standard price for adults is something like 14 bucks, then depends if you want them to wash it and dry it.
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Personally, if the stylist I use does a great job, and I continue to use her, I don't bitch about the pricing and I usually leave a 5 dollar tip so they can buy lunch. Stylists really don't make that much money, and they risk their wrists in what they do to having carpal tunnel syndrome. I have an ex that was a stylist whom no longer does it because of her wrists. She didn't bring in the dough either like a lot of people would think, and she was great at it too.
So, to me the pricing I don't care about as long as the cut you get is worth it. |
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I started shopping around when the salon I used doubled the price for cuts.
Now, I have a fantastic stylist at a very reasonable price and best of all, she comes to the house! |
If it's long, male or female, then I can understand charging more - but not because of mere gender.
When I lived in New York (not the city, but in Westchester) my hair dresser BARELY trimmed my bangs (only because she didn't do it right the first time). She tried to charge me $35. WTF? |
Have been going to a stylist for over 3 years, the price has steadily increased.
Found new barber now pay $10 flat fee. |
If I received a man's hair cut it would piss me off to pay more than a man does.
I, however, go to a stylist and they do way more stuff to my hair than just a cut, so I am fine with paying more. I am also fine with paying more to have my hair done in a professional calm peaceful; setting where they stylists are not on the phone, fist fighting, pulling each other's hair, nor have their kids running around screaming. :) |
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Hairstyling is an art.
At an upscale salon you're paying for expertise, training (that most stylists go through monthly to stay current and trendy), products used (high end color etc) and treatment. Most salons do not charge different prices. Instead the menu is based on services. For instance, my haircut is usually $70.00 dollars, but if combined with coloring, it's slightly discounted. This works for both male and female clientele. If you're looking for inexpensive pricing that is across board for all, try SuperCuts or another chain. Most of their stylists are proficient at simple doos. Happy hair moments all! |
when i was about 15, i went for a haircut at my local salon. the woman gave me a very crappy haircut, referred to me as male the whole way through, then did a doubletake, realised i was a girl and charged me the female (higher) price. after a complaint, she charged me the lower (male) price ... it made no sense to me at all.
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my haircut
i think that the inequality of gender-related haircuts is very unfair and confusing. due to my being a Roshi and Taoist monk *smile, for now*, i keep my hair extremely short, esp. for a femme. think Pema Chodron, if you've seen a pic of her. i used to go to a barbershop to get it cut, got a very nice cut and usually extremely good service, not to mention cool conversation, for 10.00. when i go to a chain unisex shop, the price goes up to 15.00 b/c i'm a woman. if i go to an upscale beauty salon, the price can vry from 20-35.00, depending up and locale. now my housemate does it for free. i must admit to missing the barbershops, though. i had the sense of being on "other" territory and getting a peak into another world. but i've been told by locals that women here do NOT go into barbershops! bo,bo,bo! so either i spend 15.00, more incl. tip, or get it cut by my housemate. my only complaint w/my hair is that it's refusing to turn gray! i'm 50 in May, and it's still medium brown w/some auburn highlights in the sun. i'm entering the second half of my life. i want my gray hair!
namaste, DamselFly :| |
I've been buzzing my head for over a year (usually with a #1.5 inch guard) instead of parting out for a decent cut around here. It only takes ten minutes every month and besides, I'm lazy and don't wanna deal with having to take care of it.
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Last year I got one of many crapy hair cuts that were way over priced,I tell them NOT to cut the top of my hear short leave it fairly long,just trim around the ears & leave some sideburns..trim my bangs 1 inch above my eye brows.Not hard to do?! Well last time but time they got done no matter where I measured my hair it was two inches long..I looked like a peeled onion.GRRRRRRRR I was not happy.So as It grew I trimed it myself,I am satisfied with the rustic Johnny Cash hair cut I now have,my hair is a little fine but has waves every where they were cutting off like a mad butcher.My son trims the back,then I comb it the way I want it to lay so with a trim round the ears and a snip hear and there ...its all good.That crapy cut was costing me $15.00 now I save the cash.
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I have had the same hairstylist for I would guess around 12-15 years and I swear her approach to cutting is never the same, even when I am getting the same cut. It usually comes out about the same, but sometimes it is a little different. I would say that it wasn't until about a year ago that I stopped being my neurotic self and ceased questioning what she was doing (if she was doing it "right"). One day I noticed the look in her eyes while she was cutting...it was this sense of passion she had...I said, "this is like art to you, isn't it?" And she was like, "absolutely". So, I pretty shut up after that day b/c I finally "got it". Her cost went dramatically up when th eshop decided to put all the hairstylists on a scale. Like A1 - A4, or something like that. It is based on skill set, classes, etc., like Enchantress mentioned. My hairstylist is all about learning new things and is constantly taking new classes and getting excited about products. She always has an "intern" in tow, as well. The cost for a cut is $39 (she is an A4, or whatever the top is). This includes a shampoo. It may or may not include conditioner or a blow dry (don't know). Sometimes I just get a "wet down" b/c I don't feel dealing with someone all up in my head (people other than my stylist). It doesn't matter male or female, the cost is the same. When there was a separate cost for men and women she charged me the men's price. I like my stylist. She is on time. She is quick. She gets I'm a guy and wouldn't consider using anything but men's products on me or recommending men's products for purchase. Unfortunately, I have a habit of encouraging my gfs to go there, so I have several exes who I could run into at any given time! ;-) |
You know Dapper that is so true about it being an art. Most people don't realize the cost and continuing education of a hairstylist. I looked up the NC Barber schools and if you want to do the whole shebang, the hairstyling, the nails, makeup, it can cost in excess of $10,000 for a one year course. That ain't cheap and they must take continuing education classes like you said at an additional cost.
The old dudes in barbershops don't go thru all that, if you just want to cut hair I think the tuition was like around $6000 which still ain't that cheap and if you want to stay current on styles then there's additional cost for that continuing education. I'm like you, I've had the same woman cutting my hair for years now, she charges me the men's rate cuz my hair is relatively easy to cut, I always tip her $5 and at Christmas it's $30. They have to make a living as well, are always standing on their feet, usually wind up with a lot of leg issues from standing all day as well as carpal tunnel which could kick them out of their chosen field. They often have long hours as well and work most Saturdays. If they aren't the shop owner then they have to pay part of what they take in to the shop owner to rent a chair in the shop which could be upwards of 60% of what they take in. It's surely not a profession I would enter into, so I don't begrudge one penny I have to pay to them. |
In terms of tipping, I always do 15%.
Question for the hair stylists around: Is this standard/accepted practice? |
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She charges me $18 for a haircut and I tip $5 so I'm about in line with you I reckon. It'll be interesting to see what hairstylists here have to say. |
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I would like to be sure that I am in line with what is customary. |
It is an art.
I have weird hair and have been on a search for someone who can do a good job with my unruly hair for years and years. I have thin spots, thick spots, naturally curly limp hair. When I have bangs I want them really short. So essentially my hair is a bitch to do well. I have gone to the chain places like Fantastic Sams to uber-expensive places and have had horrid experiences at both. I have finally found someone who understands my hair, listens to what I want and is highly trained through quarterly classes at Bumble and Bumble in NYC (and I live in Louisville) and I let her try the new stuff out on me when it would work. AND she shows me what to do to make my hair look exactly like it does when she styles it...it's never as nice but it is in the same ballpark. I like to keep my hair relatively short (chin-length graduated bob with layers in the back because it's so thick back there) but there are times where I tell myself I am going to grow it out and I get sick of it and go back and get it cut. She sees my gray hair coming in and doesn't try and get me to dye it because I refuse. She is the best.
I also pay for the best. I pay about $100 every time I see her and that includes getting my do done, my brows done and a tip. If I need my bangs trimmed I can walk-in and she won't charge me but I'll give her $10. I am pretty thrifty and cringe when I have to pay over $40 for most anything, and this is one of the exceptions. Unfortunately, I am moving this summer and will have to go on the search once again. Yuck. |
I hear ya puregrrl. Ya get a good one that listens to ya or knows how you want it and don't try to sell ya everything under the sun and either they up and move or you up and move, lol. I'm trying to think, I think I've only had 6 people cut my hair my entire life and I'm 54, lol. I guess that's not to bad, lol, at least I'm loyal!
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In my experience, I've found that going to the beauty school is always the best option for me. I pay $8.50 for shampoo, cut, blow-dry and style... and I usually tip $4-5. I guess the way I see it is, because I usually go for edgy haircuts, my friends who are there with the mohawks and purple hair are probably the best ones to do my hair... :lol2:
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I pay £30 (approx $50) on average for a very quick cut and shampoo ... takes 10 to 15 minutes max and the quality is very hit and miss.
I've been struggling to find a good hairdresser here in London ... one of my best friends was a hairstylist in my previous location (Belfast) and I was able to always get a fantastic cut that suited me for around half the price I'm paying in London and some good conversation and coffee thrown in also. |
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2 hair stylists in 41 years! Seriously. Went to my first one starting at age 9 (I assume my mother did it before then). Saw her until I switched to this one 13 or so years ago. THAT is loyal! (of course, it is notable that I am a commitment phobe in my personal life, so maybe I shouldn't start shouting from the rooftops! ha!) |
for the last few yrs my son and i have used the same hairdresser....she is an older woman,her help is older as well,and a lot of her clientele are older/elderly ppl..she charges everyone the same price...$10 for a wash,cut and dry--regardless of sex or age--i stick with her simply bc my son is picky and this is only the 3rd person is has liked
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my favorite salon:
GOING STRAIGHT SALON :confused: LOL!!! http://philippines.panpages.com/gall...salon-8963.jpg I require myself to have my favorite hair treatment, once a year, I call this maintenance, to keep my hair healthy and neat. cost = 1,500 in Philippine peso or $34.77 (P1,500 / $43.14) for me, this is expensive and have my hair trimmed, (2 inches, lol!) every other month, well, in a different salon :) |
As a hairstylist I understand the cost of haircuts. There are some salons that charge a set price whether male or female. Some even have a lower price for a clipper cut and clipper cut only, this means one length all over.
I love what I do and it comes across in the work that I do. Whether it is a simple haircut to a more edgy look you will get the same treatment. I have done my fair share of off the wall and totally crazy haircuts. I have etched favorite numbers, team logos and I have even done a checker board. All I totally enjoyed doing. We must not forget the mullet, but that in and of itself is 2 haircuts so you better believe I am going to charge accordingly. If you are going to tip by all means be generous, 5 bucks is nice but if you are getting a color done consider the time and effort that goes into this sort of application. Many stylist have gone to booth rent which in some places is ridiculously high which means you will pay more for a service and even those that aren't booth rent charge more depending on the level of stylist you are dealing with. Some even have a base rate that is just at minimum wage and if you don't hit that base rate in dollars per hour you can lose your job, which in my opinion sucks! I work very hard for every dollar I make, but if you think it is costly by all means buy your own clippers and take a whack at it. Just my .02... |
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Being that other hair services is more than a cut, would you say that 15% is fair? Thanks. |
Dapper, I have personally been tipped almost 50%...
But,15% is nice, some even go so far as to tip 20%. Thank you for doing your part in keeping your stylist happy! |
I got my first "butch" hair cut earlier this year, at the ripe old age of 22 :P Up to this point, I kept my hair long and pulled back into a ponytail because I never felt that I had to have my hair short just because I identify as a butch lesbian, and I wanted it long enough to donate to Locks of Love. One day, I decided I was ready to cut my hair for the first time in more than ten years. My twin sister and best friend both insisted that I go see their hair dresser, Dawn. She charges me $20 for a wash and cut rather then $35, and I always leave her at least a $10 tip. $30, in my opinion, is well worth it for me to have a hair cut I actually like.
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The relationship does help. I can get a color, cut, style and waxing for less than $60-not including tip. A coworker spends $100 for a color and cut only. Additionally, WHERE you are matters. I go to a stylist in a small town where as my coworker goes to a stylist in a more upscale area. I have friends who go to barbershops and swear by the cut and service they get. :sparklyheart: |
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