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Gulf Oil Slick
I'm surprised we don't have a thread on this. And I figured might be worthwhile to discuss. Reading HP today I found this:
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More than ever, it has made me NOT want to get a license and drive a car. :angry: |
I am absolutely SICK over this and completely PISSED OFF that these companies think they have the fucking RIGHT to keep scientists from observing, taking photos, or doing experiments while there are millions of gallons of oils just spilling out into the ocean.
I cringe to think of how many sea creatures and birds will be dead because of this. There already has been reports of dead dolphins, shrimp, and fish and many articles say that the fishing industry off the gulf may be so damaged it might never recover. |
I have to space my reading of articles on this tragedy out; it's too much.
Apparently, Obama gave the companies a piece of his mind the other day. I haven't watched it yet, though. |
It is an oceanic holocaust that will have an exponential effect on all of life as we now currently know it. To think otherwise, I believe, is to delude oneself.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill |
I agree Linus the government should freeze gas prices coming from BP. It seems there should be something BP or the government could do to stop the leak. I can't believe nobody had a disaster relief plan in place for this. I mean we didn't just start drilling a few years ago, it's been a long time and most companies have a disaster relief plan or a OSHA regulated or EPA regulated plan for emergencies.
I'm about tired of paying $2.89 for gas and it is summer and it is going up. I was only paying $1.60 this time last year. Can you imagine how much they will jack up the price of gas when government fines and EPA fines and the cost of clean up effect their bottom line? |
Im admittedly pretty ignorant over the who and what of this situation but if BP is owned by the Brits at least in some part, are they required to help cleanup the spill and fix the leak?
Or is BP a private entity owned by a Brit, therefore making the British government not responsible for anything? |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP They are private.. and they are a big private. |
I am horrified over this oil spill. It is nothing like what BP originally stated, and then the pictures came out...my heart sank. Mother Nature is pissed. This has and will continue to change the face of our oceans, animals, and our way of life for generations. This is just another example of corporate greed. |
Yes the ecological system has and will continue to take a huge hit from this. Sad thing is BP doesn't seem to care. I bet they'd give a rats ass if the Feds cut off their ability to sell gas until it was cleaned up. I know they wouldn't do that because that wouldn't be good for the unemployment since most stores are open 24 hrs and that would effect a lot of people economically.
Some where someone has an idea to get BP stepping up to the plate in a manner that will stop this leak and start the clean up and restoring of the ocean and its inhabitants. |
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Who the fuck are THEY to tell anyone that they can't observe all the damage that their company is doing to the environment. Im crazy pissed about this and cant believe that its been gushing for 2 fucking weeks and still NO end in sight. |
No end in sight. And the latest with the long tube going into the sputing well failed as well. We are still at Ground Zero. I think BP needs to open up all connections and take the publics ideas. This is not the same world as it was 2 years ago or 5 years ago. I know I won't be buying their products. |
Thanks Linus for opening this thread!!!
I am intimately acquainted with the Gulf Coast. I have spent many a houseboat vacations putting up and down Cayo Costa seashore. I also have spent many September weekends diving for scallops in the Steinhatchee area of Florida. I gave a quick call to check in with the owners of the place I stay when I go scalloping. Now this is the Northern coast before the panhandle just along the south end of the curve of Florida panhandle. She told me they were already seeing birds and animal life coming in contact with oil. She said there will be no scalloping business for her this year. She was very upset. She was born and raised there. After getting off the phone with her I got pretty nervous calling the couple that owns the houseboat rental business I use when I go down there. They realized right away when this happened how it is going to ruin their business. I could hear her voice cracking when we talked about the animals and plant life that will be wiped out. I may not care for the politics of my state but I can say I have had a love affair with Floridas waterways and all they have to offer since i was a small child. I am sad over this!!!! |
When the platform sank they said there was NO leak,then we had a BIG leak and it has gone on far to long.They keep trying new things to stop it but I know they have got a centerfuge machine that can suck up sea water and oil and separate the two..WHY ARENT THEY USEING IT????The well owners, who ever they are,have screwd up the ecosysten of my state for generations to come.If they had used some things I have herd about like paper shreded that will soak up oil or big nylon bags to store the spill in by sucking up the oil and sea water into it.They store oil and gas in these things and float them out in the ocean..its should work for this as well.Now how do I know this..My X was,last time I saw him was into big oil as an exutive and has showd me the things mentioned..years ago.
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This is what I mean. They have to know what to do. Something is up. I feel like a hostage. |
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We were recently there in the Panhandle and yes there were brids and sealife coming to shore via the tides, dead covered in oil. my heart breaks for our sea life and the businesses. It's also true business is going to suffer BIG TIME the shrimpers were venting at the local Marina and it wasn't pleasant to hear. Someone needs to step up PDQ and take accountability. Let whomever necessary tell BIG MONEY how to CLEAN this mess up. |
Andrew..yesterday I filld up my car at the circleK for $2.89 a galon....ouch! Hostage isnt the word ,if the prices are this nigh now ,godess help us by time this is over.
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This is a catastrophe of such proportions we will feel the impact of the devastation for decades.
How many times did we campaign against this? I cant believe the impunity private enterprise has shown, despite the concerns and warnings from us "tree-huggers". Such denial in thinking that this would or could never happen has set them up for the catastrophe we are all experiencing now. I am sick over what has been done, and despite any entity's best effort, the oil continues to flow. |
See this is what I don't understand. As a youngster I was pounded into a pulp about being responsible, and respectful of nature. And here I am with my 2 great nephews asking me why the grown ups aren't doing anything. I just am at a loss of what to say. Really, I have no idea of what to say because here on the East Coast there is nothing shown being done that is slowing down the flow of oil, or cleaning up the spill. Everything is like this and that. Nothing of real importance. I am just so upset over this event, and everyone knows it. Rockinonahigh, Gas here is about the same price. It is a dent in my wallet each week. |
I am trying to do some research to find out how BP and other oil companies get approval to drill so close to our shores and the shores of Mexico and islands in the Carribean.
Anyone know where to look? |
they should not only freeze prices but be forced to sell at a discount but then we'd have to worry about the government giving them a bail out for losing money. lol
it's such shit really but mistakes happen but on this scale the consequences should be huge because the impact of that mistake is also huge. I love Steinhatchee. They should be responsible for a relief fund where small businesses like this are supported. |
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By the way, in the week after Obama said no more permits for offshore drilling would be issued, MMS issued at least 5 new permits, including one in Alaska. If ever there were an agency that needed to be completely disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up, this is it. |
This oil spill will destroy Louisiana's Coastal Wetlands, and Estuaries for decades to come. Bayous full of generation after generation of shrimpers, and fisherman. All will be out of jobs. They don't know any other life. Many of them have never been out of the state of Louisiana. BP should have to pay dearly. It all brings tears to my eyes, and makes me sick to my stomach.
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I keep remembering walking the shores in Valdez, Alaska in 2003 (a long time after the spill there) and rolling over rocks with oil deposits.... Although Exxon was found liable, the people there losing their livelihood as well as what it did to the environment and critters - it has still not paid up. There are eco-systems lost there that will never return. Oh, and the cruise ships still pump sewage into the waters, there. The impact of the environmental devastation will never stop..... they are now using chemicals to try to stop the flow, and synthetic materials... Also, the 11 people that died on that rig were blown to hell. Others are suffering from severe PTSD. Why are we going to continue to do off-shore drilling just due to this loss of life? Oh, that's right, coal-mining companies that cut corners, block labor unions, etc. are also a dime a dozen... But, you know, there are senators in Congress trying to block off-shore wind energy fields primarily due to bird losses... Yes, I care about birds but data demonstrates that wind energy bird losses are minimal. I do not know what all the possible problems could be with wind energy (or so-called clean-coal, but just can't help but think about the mega-billion dollar oil industry will not lose in the end. I have made personal changes in my own energy use, but until we all do, nothing much is going to change. There are some new solar hot water residential systems now out that can be financed at zero interest rates- take a look! But, yes, its damn hard for most of us in this economy to even think about these kinds of changes. Soooooo... how about big-buck corporations having to make changes on their buildings? You know, that pipe may never be able to be corked! And BP is far more interested in what it is losing in sweet crude. They will probably gain a means to re-build that rig as the only means to divert that oil. And the fact remains that that area is far too deep to drill in and have any kind of safety surrounding it. It never should have been able to be there in the first place. Do you see any efforts to shut-down all this rigs in this heightened risk area? And…. To date, we still have no way to dispose of nuclear waste generated by nuclear power plants. But, you can bet there is going to be a big campaign (billions toward lobbying) to build more of these plants. |
This is much bigger than the gulf. The oil and chemicals will drift from the Gulf Stream out in to the Atlantic, where they will join with the North Atlantic Drift, eventually impacting the entire Atlantic Ocean, North America, and coastal Europe.
linkyloo The Gulf Stream, together with its northern extension towards Europe, the North Atlantic Drift, is a powerful, warm, and swift Atlantic ocean currentGulf of Mexico, exits through the Strait of Florida, and follows the eastern coastlines of the United States and Newfoundland before crossing the Atlantic Ocean. that originates in the Here's a nice visual linkyloo |
By the way, those chemicals being used to disperse the oil? The formulas and ingredients are protected, so we have no way of knowing what is in them. The companies refuse to divulge the information.
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After 26 days of pumping oil into our beautiful ocean, and destroying such creation, I am truely devistated over this distruction. So many lives and creatures are affected and effected. I am sick over this. Just sick. |
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Bet Dick Cheny knows what they are and what is in them! Probably will get a kick-back off them. The whole idea that someting that is developed to break down sweet crude could possibly not be harmful is just nuts! And I am sure that future generations will be posting on-line about birth defects, cancers, etc. resulting from these chemicals getting into the food-chain. And we worry about foreign terroists destroying us! |
Worry that Gulf oil spreading into major current
Latest news from the Associated Press http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/...gulf_oil_spill |
I wrote a response to this over on my personal site. Sometimes I write a decent paragraph, the last was one is my favorite.
As long as there are oil rigs off shore, there will be accidents. As long as we consume foreign oil, there will be war in the Middle East. The solution is engineering and alternative fuel sources. It’s time that we quit being a bunch of self centered bloated petulant children and started behaving as if we cared about our planet and each other. |
It is a shame that the eventual fine/cost will be ours to bear. Will it ever have an impact on those who are at the helm of the sinking ship, so to speak? Seems someone other than the responsible party ends up paying the price of recovery.
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Every day I get more depressed and ...angry about this...and think about how much my grand daughters love to fish and camp, hike, be among the trees. What will their lives be like 10 years from now... 15, 20.....? If they choose to be biological parents, will their kids be born healthy?
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Right. The underground spill is bigger than MANHATTAN. That is almost too much to think about, and it is heading over to FL and up the atlantic coast.
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I am sick over this. And the BP Corporate big wigs just talk and talk and talk while still reeling in huge paychecks. |
Now this Trail of Tears is being caused by robots they say..in search of black gold. Skulldrudgery!
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Further, it appears that BP will not allow any other oil company people to aid in the efforts to stop the flow. So... what the hell are they hiding about what they are using? OK, I am thinking that the Obama administration needs to put some kind of hold/lein/judgement on BP's financial accounts (well, if this can be done) after all the finger pointing during the hearings to pass the buck. It will be years of litigation before the fault is determined and payments are made for damages. This is so very serious! |
Jack, You are so right. My neighbor told me this morning that they are planning on digging or drilling in Alaska now. Is this true? Money is the root of all evil. I have seen this happen time after time. |
Its insanity!
They had zero plan if something went wrong! The plans they have to fix it sound like things a 5th grade science class would come up with...Top Hat? Cork? Bendy Straw? None of this sounds very scientific. And Halliburton all up on the middle of it. SICKENING! We all need to cut back on our oil consumption, until we do...this type of thing will continue. I don't even care about gas prices, it's the environmental impact and the fact that they have zero clue what to do to fix it. |
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