Olivia Cruisers? Carribean Sun Cruise October 30th
 

I thought I would post a little postie seeing if there was anyone from here that was going on the cruise other than me :) Drop me a line here or on my profile! It would be great to meet other Femmes and Butches on the cruise!

MountainStar

Tech Note: I moved this thread as it's not a BFP event or sanctioned by BFP. (this thread was originally under the BFP Events section)

I presume you mean the cruise from the dash site?

I'm going to keep my mouth shut on this one for once...

So the answer is .....


HELL NO

Actually, this isn't the Dash site's cruise (their's is slated for Spring 2011).

after being made aware of Olivia Cruise Lines policy regarding transgender vacationers, i have to say that i must boycott them on principal.

when you call a gay cruise line to make a reservation and are advised that your masculine appearing partner would probably be better served by booking a cruise on a mainstream cruise line? it is apparent that they are not inclusive.

so no.

Not to be slandering or disrespectful to the other site. But like SuperFemme. I prefer not to support a company that discrimanates. About 8 years ago. A bunch of us from Hawaii wanted to jump ship and party. Well, as we talked on the phone, they were extremly accomidating. But when we showed up at the dock. The ticket woman said that this was a lesbian cruise. I said, well. I am a Butch woman and I paid for my ticket. She went on to explain that because there were more butch wemon and not enough woman-woman, it would be best if we booked for another cruise at a later time. One of our MTF said to this lady, well I was born a man, you got a problem with that??? The woman gasped and said" that she would not let her or that is him" <~in her own words. Board this ship because as she had stated earlier it was a Lesbian cruise.
That was it, I will never book with them again. And I mean NEVER!

at the DOCK?
are you fucking kidding me?

oh. that. pisses. me. off.

All I can say is that this is appalling :crap: they should be ashamed

I lurb You, WormBoi............ :D

I never said anything because I never wanted to even get to the dock in the first place. I seen the posting on the other site and quickly ~cringed~. We never got our money back, and I will never look back at them either. If it was brought up, I would have said my piece here, well now it has, so now I speak only the truth... I don't visit, so I couldn't post my thoughts there.
But now I put my hat down on the Planet, so now I speak, I love, I hug, and I warn...

Well then , I will take My boa and Tiara and party else where ! :cigar2: OHHHHH and Dolls shoes , and My fucking monkey !
:flyingmonkey:

Mountain Star I will not be able to go on the Lesbian cruise this October for various reasons unfortunately. I would love to go in future. As a lesbian I enjoy lesbian events and gatherings.
Since this thread is about a lesbian gathering perhaps it could be moved to the "Lesbian Zone" so wimmin can discuss the cruise without wading through pages of lesbophobia.

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I suggest we plan a cruise on our own...

I imagined the Olivia cruise to be somewhat akin to an episode of the L word...and since I cannot relate to the lesbians in that series, it did not interest me.

I think on our own cruise, we utube it and set the world straight what an INCLUSIVE cruise would be like.

and at the end,in one last utube, I say we all moon the dash site with dashes printed on our asses...

Ohhhhhhhhh Olivia...

I would have to say not going anytime in this lifetime, as long as their trans policies stand.

Have fun though Mountain Star I hear cruises are fun!

It was nice to come in here and not have a finger wagged at chu and belittled over opinions.

This is me giving a BIG eyeroll.

Olivia Cruises not making space for trans folks is more along the lines of transphobia, not "lesbophobia".

Again, how am I to couch my displeasure for that as a lesbian who is married to a trans person?

It breaks my heart that I am made to feel silenced and hush hush if I have anything that is other than positive to say about anything lesbian related. I'm a lesbian.

Trust me, I've got nothing against myself, and simply have stated the facts regarding the Olivia Cruises policy.

If the OP wanted only YES answers, I didn't read it that way.

So when 'wimmin' condemn the absence of inclusiveness, it's lesbophobia?

Really?

Cyclopea -

This will be your one and only warning. If you have only come back to participate in an incendiary manner, "rally the troops", or shit-stir, I highly suggest you rethink your interactions.

The Olivia Cruise topic is not "owned" by the Lesbian community, and we will not start segregating this site into areas where "wimmin's" topics are policed/fenced/separated into a space where only people of "approved" identities are allowed to discuss them.

Thanks,
Medusa
(Admin voice)

actually not a stab at all, DayWalker, but a celebration. Mooning is a cute way of having fun without being offensive...

I personally, however, do not like Olivia cruises nor the Dash site, but that was not my intent...

I certainly did not intend to participate in an incendiary manner "rally the troops" or shit-stir. I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I suggested that posting about a lesbian event in the lesbian zone might decrease the dozens of "oh hell no I'm not going- I'm not a lesbian" posts, which yes, feel phobic to me. I will PM you on the matter and hopefully make myself clearer. I'm not sure why my suggestion warrants such seemingly harsh moderation but I would like to understand so I can avoid being singled out in such a manner in future. Thank you for your patience.

I would like to clarify that nowhere in my post did I come off with an intent to be anti lesbian.

Matter of fact lesbian was not even in my post.

So since you are making sweeping generalizations, I would like to say that I would not attend Olivia Cruises NOT because they cater to lesbians, but because I could not comfortably go with the person I am with, reason being..

They are not trans friendly.