FTM C*ck
 

Ooo... so I can say something? Hmm... what do I want to say...

*goes away to think* :curtain:

glad to see you posted it
 

well, i am interesting in hearing for one how you all think of your cock. I know how I think of it, and those of you who have spoken with me know also lol

Cock fight?
 

Hmmm...is this what is known as a cock fight?

I'm just kidding!

HA!!
 

Pfft!!!

Everyone knows Femme Cock always wins....

:sunglass:

only one way to find out.

Um it's called we can buy any size we want, I would be here all day pulling cock after cock out.

That's the great thing about queer cock, there ain't none of that sexist my cock is bigger than yours to be had, we can all have big cocks, I know I do, why wouldn't I it's available anytime to purchase..

Although for some, it's not about the store bought cock. Some use their own physical equipment.

In the end though, it's not really about the cock at all. It's about the person behind the cock.

Cocks!
 

I understand that, my Femme Cock is not about some phallus I purchased on the internets or the store, it's my hand, it's my mouth, it's each touch and penetration being it deep into boy/girl cunt or the mind fuck penetration as I paint the picture of how deep or how long I will fuck.

That's why I said the adopted male sexism can't ever apply or be imposed because I know for me, my Femme Cock is just more than the inches I purchase, it's about the penetrations I am participating in, giving, providing and setting up.

It is about pleasing, fucking our partner(s). In ways, that only each of us, in our unique partnerships, can create. It's a mind blowing experience. What an amazing buildup and release of energy.

Nods Nods
 

That's the beauty of penetrative queer sex, it ranges from the romanticism of intercourse to the raw physical release of desire that comes when people come to satiate their carnal, physical mental or emotional needs, wants or desires.

HOT!!! Very well expressed lady snow.

Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival.

The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them

The question: What do you call a femme who straps on?
The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

My femme cock is embraced quite well thank you very much:)!!

Emotional safety, from what? We are talking about female-bodied people, are we not? How does butch-emotional safety from cock differ from anyone else who's been conditioned from birth to "act female"?

It's a little disturbing to think that you're facilitating a workshop where someone might come away thinking that femmes can't have a cock, or that a butchs' pleasure comes from taking 9 -loving inches from their femme and now they question their validity as "butch" because they're quite fine with their personal safety...

It's strange, for me, that you're defining butch out there, some place when personally, I've seen/read/experienced a decade of butches that are pretty much undefinable--Especially NOT by how they like to fuck or get fucked.

apretty,

Since we've never met and you've never attended one of our workshops, I'll share that we preface every single workshop we facilitate with the fact that we are not telling anyone what is "right" or "wrong". There is no single definition to being butch or femme. It is a spectrum and a personal journey unique to every individual.

We simply come to our workshops with a series of questions and at least one introspection activity. We work hard to create a safe space for sharing. And, we do our best to encourage a healthy discussion on a particular topic.

With that said, I referenced the Q/A from our latest workshop because I found the exchange interesting and relevant to this thread. Our topic was butch cock, trans dick and the phantom penis. Someone else brought up femme cock in our workshop, as well as this board. In the workshop, the exchange I posted generated some light as well as nervous laughter, but it led to a very good discussion. I came to understand what the sense of the 25+ people in our workshop was regarding the topic. I was hoping to do the same here.

As for emotional safety from cock... We seem to share the same question. Is that an issue for butches and FTMs? Since I am neither, it's not my place to answer; so, I will wait to see if someone else chooses to share their perspective.

Pink

Viva la queer sex!
 

Queer vulva & cock is awesome!!!!!

:hk2:

I'm a bit confused about what you mean by emotional safety. This isn't me trying to give you a hard time or anything, I just don't know exactly what you mean by it.

As far as identity and dynamic, I think that depends on the person and where their own boundaries lie. Some femmes aren't into receiving penetrative sex, and same for any other identity. For me, the reason is not because I find the idea of femme cock offensive, I just know what freaks me out and triggers my dysphoria...which isn't limited to femme cock, but any cock or object attempting to enter any part of my body. But there are tons of transguys and butches out there who have no problem with getting fucked by a femme with a cock or various other cocks. Buck Angel is far from being the only one, lol.

That's the beauty of this dynamic or the queer dynamic as a whole, is that there is no "this dynamic." Everyone has their preferences. Some butches like femme cock, butch cock, trans/transguy cock, all sorts of cock, some like it some of the time, others like it all of the time, others not at all. Same with every other identity. I don't think we can make a sweeping generalization that says all butches/transguys don't like certain things.

EnderD,

I think in this case emotional safety = trigger for dysphoria, which is probably a better term for what I was asking about.

I do hear what you're saying and agree with you that there is quite a bit of diversity and no one single way to define the butch femme dynamic.

Thanks for sharing.
Pink.

Femme cock has never been part of my sexual proclivities. I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience something so foreign. So, I understand the emotional safety thing.

Me too. I don't think safe feelings are gender specific, is the point I was trying to make earlier. :)

True. I guess I've always assumed it's more emotionally stressful for the FTM, butch or male ID individual.

I agree with what apretty said on this one, as far as it not being gender-specific.

I don't think its always more emotionally stressful for certain identities than others. Even if many non-feminine identities suffer from dysphoria or are stone and don't feel connected with their physical anatomy that way, there are trans and other male, masculine or neutral identities who aren't dysphoric or have minimal dysphoria. I also think in these convos we tend to forget about pre-op transwomen (whether butch or femme) who are also a part of the b/f dynamic, and the dysphoria they might feel. Or stone femmes, not here meaning stone femmes who id as such because they prefer to be with stone butches, but stone femmes who don't like being touched/penetrated.

I don't think that it's because these women or feminine identities are more "rare" than non-feminine counterparts, but because sometimes, as a community, we focus too much on the struggles of non-feminine (here meaning gender neutral, gender fluid, third gender or male identities) identities. Not even as a community here, but as a greater lgbtq community. Like why aren't there as many books written on that form of female/woman/feminine sexuality as there are about male/masculine/gender neutral/fluid?

I'm also not sure these perspectives are easy to change. I've definitely heard what I'm saying here brought up many times before in this community and elsewhere, but it doesn't seem to change the subject of the majority of the discussions. So how do we change that?

BUMP!!!
 

i think the discussion about safety can cover so many difference perspectives. whether you are butch, femme, stone, ftm, mtf, genderqueer, intersexed, cis, or gender fluid.
It boils down to trust.
do i trust this person with my most vulnerable moments, to completely submit to them and open myself to them?
are you going to allow them to penetrate you physically, mentally, spiritually, metaphorically, partially, or completely?
can you count on this person to use discretion, and not tell your innermost passions to others, or use them against you in the future?
do i feel safe with this person?

@

:cowboy:

I can say, as a preop tranwoman, that we vary, just as much as any other group does. Some do enjoy using their 'Original Equipment' while they have it, and for others, it is a complete turnoff. I have heard of some that prefer using a strapon, though I am certainly not one of them.
For me, using my 'original equipment' or a strapon triggers my dysphoria, and would be very uncomfortable. Others, however, are different.

mmm.. Not that I don't love getting into long winded debates about intimacy issues and security issues and what the difference between butch and FTM cock..

BUT..

I was kinda just hoping to talk about my cock and how much I enjoy it.. When I say my cock I am talking about the equipment I was born with and that I am slowly starting to love again. I love it so much that I posted a picture of it on another adult themed site.. It is getting bigger now that I am on T and is actually starting to stick out a lil more.. I look down sometimes and say, "go lil guy, GO!".. well not out loud.. but yeah..

Maybe that is what one could say along the topic of security.. I feel secure enough in my manhood not to be defined by how big it is.. I don't pack unless requested to. I prefer to feel my cock rub against whatever garment I'm wearing. I dislike having the lil guy all mashed up against a piece of silicone.. That is *MY* relationship with my cock.

I am no less and no better then anyone else on this site. This is my FTM cock and I am proud of it.

Now, did I derail the thread? I hope not.. Discussion is always good. People need it. For me, I needed to post about my cock. The end and thankyouverymuch.

-Tony and his oh so awesome FTM cock.

Hear Hear...Tender Knight...Bravo...I am proud of my little pecker too.
It works for me and for my partner. I never heard any complaints.
Oh but, maybe some women weren't honest or worried about my ego.
Fortunately, my pecker doesn't rule my ego:hangloose:

and it is really...hear him...hear him

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

:thinking:

Hmmm. me thinks that Mav didn't really mean to post this here..

Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.

OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery?

Would love to hear from you guys too..

How's it hanging?
 

Hangs right.. Right where I want it...

Kent, shouldn't that be where your darling wants it? :eyebat: