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Why do we call the US America?
The continent the Unites States of America resides within is called America.
North, South, Central AMERICA When we call the USA America we disregard every other country in the Americas. It is dismissive, privileged and probably racist as well. People in many other countries in the Americas hate the US for this reason alone. Why do we insist on this? |
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And, well.... priviledge, class and racism could be involved in the continuation of this. Personally, I don't insist on this and usually feel that those that do are ignorant. |
Yes we do. Meaning, those of us who live in the other Americas do hate the US for this.
I currently reside in South America (not Brazil though), and have made that mistake a few times, mainly due to the 25+ years that I lived in the States, shame on me! It is arrogant, ignorant, rude and dismissive. It mainly comes from the feeling of entitlement/privilege that most US citizens share. |
I think it's because people in Europe were used to calling it "America" long before there were any independent countries here, and all the other countries took different names... but since we were already being called "America," when the official name became the United States of America people just continued to use the shorter "America" out of habit.
I also think that our government over the past couple hundred years has been rather... arrogant (Manifest Destiny, anyone?)... and has probably encouraged this. Certainly in modern times our media and popular entertainment industries have encouraged it. |
i say US. (as in, you-ess)
i think referring to 'america' sounds less than informed. for example: "this is america: _______(fill in the blank)/you need to speak english!/etc" maybe it's regional. |
Why do people all over the world refer to those who reside in the United States of America as Americans? Why not refer to those residents as United Statesians? How do people in other countries of the continent of America refer to United Statesians, by the way? At least when they are trying to be polite? :toothache:
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"I think it's because people in Europe were used to calling it "America" long before there were any independent countries here"
I am sorry, but I take offense to this part of your post. Where exactly is here? And when Europeans called it America they were referring to the continent, not the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci |
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When I visit Europe today, they say the US. Expats say "the States" Brazil is also "The United States of Brazil" , so it can be confusing? Quote:
I say it like you do, I think it is an important distinction. Oh and "this is America, so you should".... is so incredibly arrogant there are no words..... Thank you for mentioning that! I don't automatically assume people who say America for the US do it on purpose, I try to think that maybe they have not thought about it? |
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I travel a lot, and many people do say Unites Stasians in their language, like Spanish for example. Estados Unidenses in Spanish speaking South America, or Norte Americanos which does not say what country. In Europe I hear US. |
On "American" sites I use the term American for brevity and to simplify things. I've used the term "United Statsians" for a couple of decades now. What little I've heard has led me to believe it's a much bigger deal in South America than in North America. Canada is a pretty easy-going country. We don't get riled up about the smaller things in life, but I don't believe that the term "American" should apply to only people from the United States. Not a BIG deal, just a little one, but yes - I do believe that there are a multitude of little deals that give the world the impression that the United States is arrogant. Not necessarily individual people, but the country as a whole.
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Mexico is kind of in North America too. |
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I'm from England and all I ever remember hearing is America and Americans, for the most part. The only time I heard any one refer to the US as "The States" was other Americans. But that's just my experience. I'm not as well travelled as you :) Although I do remember the French calling Americans....well, never mind. That's probably not repeatable. Melissa |
I suppose we South Americans are just uptight and picky about accuracy. I have also encountered this from people in Central America, by the way.
Apocalipstic, yes, before they we had revolutions and became independent and individual countries. |
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And yes, I have only heard people from the US or Canada call the US "the States" and it is only from people who have lived outside the US. |
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Citizens of the United States of America? If not Americans, what should we call ourselves? |
In normal every day conversation I mostly call it "The States".
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We are all Americans South, Central and North. I think it is important that when we are speaking of the US in particular we say US. It seems pretty racist, classist and arrogant to say otherwise. |
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What should Argentines call themselves, or Mexicans, or Canadians, or Chileans? They are all Americans too. |
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I am from Central America and the only way I ever heard the US referred to was..Los Estados Unidos... and it's residents were called gringos.. I know gringo is not liked or PC but I am just providing a reference.
I have never even thought of this place as anything but America but I can see why this subject could be thought of in all the ways it has been portrayed. I will think about this because United Stasians just sounds wierd to me !! I like human haha. I like like a citizen of the world. An earthling.. lol !! f1~ |
Well, I will be sure not to do that when I travel to Brazil later this year :)
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I am not trying to make anyone angry or challenge anyone's identity, but people on our continent HATE us for thinking and saying we are The Americans.
If I say American, I mean from the Americas. :) America the continent as a whole. :) It is a small thing that we should think about in a good way. In a "how can we be more culturally aware" way. :) And if we did everything the English wanted us to, we would still be a colony. |
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I have heard Gringos too. Thank you. Unites Statesians is awkward I agree. I like human too! :) We are all ONE. |
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I was just curious as to what her friends did call people from the US. Mine always use "Yank"- but they also always use that tone and I'd really prefer to be called something else. :lol2: |
I think Semantics asked a really important question:
If not Americans, what should we call ourselves? |
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I usually say Brits, or from the UK, or English, Scottish and so forth for you. :) |
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I say I live in the US or say I am a US citizen. |
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How would you make that akin to what other nations have (e.g.: I'm Canadian. I'm British. I'm Cuban. I'm Russian. I'm Swedish. I'm Australian. I'm Nordic.)? I'm Statesish? Statian? |
Since the arrogance and ignorance started way before our time:
"The former British colonies first used the country's modern name in the Declaration of Independence, the "unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America" " ~ Wikepedia You can call yourselves anything you want. Most of us who have traveled and have been exposed to other cultures will call you "Estadunidenses", or Gringos when you piss us off. |
it is Olympic Games time..............and the chant that is always heard at the Olympics and any other international sporting event is U S A .
I try to never ever never say American(s) when referring to citizens of the United States of America. I'm sure somewhere on the net I will have said Americans. My default language is the 'US' or 'folks from the US'. When I was an expat, I always said I was from the 'US' or 'the States'. For those that don't know, I lived in New Zealand for a year back in 2002-2003. |
I say..
American from the US... For me.. American doesn't belong just to the USA.. But lingustily.. USAian.. just doesn't flow off the tongue.. |
So here is *MY answer.................... the "logical" reason to *me is....... The United States is refered to as "America" becuase it is a singular country....It is my experience when talking to those from South America, Or Central America "they" have Identified themselves by their Country of Origin...then as a point of Geographical reference will say Central, or South.... However, if I am asked where Im from in an international forum I say the US....but I have also been known to refer to MYSELF* as an American......on a side note I Identify as a NEW YORKER.....and thats a WHOLE 'nother thread...... :cheer: |
The Americas
Our fore fathers coined the term "Americans" in our Declaration of Independence. Hence, we (Northern Americans) identify with this term. Obviously, we are not the only Americans. There is South American and Central American as well.
To say that citizens of the United States are egotistical or entitled because they call themselves Americans, is, I believe, incorrect. Instead we are proud, we are compassionate and we are (I like to think) welcoming. I am North American. Let's say you're Columbian (or Brazilian just for fun), then, obviously, you (used universally of course) would be South American. ; ) I don't believe that there is going to be any sort of major movement any time soon to change the use of this term, and really, why should there be? What is really important is that everyone realize that there are others who are of the Americas as well and have the right to identify as such (obviously sans the US Citizen part). |
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Ms. Enchantress, I personally don't know any Columbians....but I have heard they are easily mistaken for Brazilians : )
I don't believe there is going to be a movement or any kind. I mean, we are dealing with the same arrogance and entitlement of those who ran American Indians from their own land, so why expect any changes? Edited to say that I do know some Colombians though. |
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