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Andrew, Jr. 02-19-2010 11:32 AM

Tiger Woods - The Entire Situation
 
Today Tiger apologized for his behavior, having numerous affairs, and for betraying his wife & children, family, friends, and so on. He is in a private in-patient therapy for sex addiction.

What I saw was a hurting man, someone who was really confessing his "sins" to the world, and wanting to make amends for his lack of control. In my mind he was sincere.

Andrew

Blaze 02-19-2010 11:37 AM

Yes he seemed to be hurting.

Not to be rude, but to me. There are more important things in this world that we have to be worrying about. I could hear him on the news, but I didn't watch it. I personally think that the media has over blown this whole situation. And we, the viewers have picked sides and pointed at a man for our own satisfaction and belittlement knowing we have our own faults and injustice to deal with.

Andrew, Jr. 02-19-2010 12:49 PM

Blaze,

The thing with this is the children. He has so much money tied up with his foundation, and with helping under-priviledged children. These children look up to TW as a role model. And he failed them all, including his own.


Greyson 02-19-2010 01:27 PM

It was refreshing to see someone stand up and take responsibility for his mistakes. No blaming his wife, his past, whatever. I also agree that the particulars of his affairs are not the business of the general public. Those are matters between him and his wife.

Maybe I am a bit of a sap but I felt like what he said and presented were genuine. The facts are that many watched this "breaking news" earlier today. Hopefully if nothing else, humility, taking responsibility publicly will serve as a teachable moment.

Queerasfck 02-19-2010 01:58 PM

Set my alarm for snooze
 
He was boring before and he's just as boring now.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Lady Jewel 02-19-2010 02:04 PM

I could care less about Tiger Woods and his sexcapades. That said, is the "I am a sex addict" defense the new, "The Devil made me do it"?? *Shakes mah head*

BullDog 02-19-2010 02:20 PM

Sex addiction, is that what cheating is called these days or is there a 12 step program for cheaters?

I could care less whether or not he was unfaithful to his wife, but I also don't feel sorry for him. If you are a public figure and make a lot of money from being one, then your comings and goings will be noted. So if you want to keep your public image, then don't do stupid things. If you want to be stupid, be stupid and have your ass handed to you. If you want to be private, then don't become a public figure.

Sure maybe the media shouldn't dig in, but I also wonder why golfers get paid millions and millions of dollars to play a game or millions and millions of dollars to endorse things. Oh yeah so we will spend money.

Rockinonahigh 02-19-2010 02:35 PM

TW is just another over pampered rich guy who got caught with his pants down with a string of women..I feel sorry for his wife and kids..not him.He knew what he was geting in to and thats a fact.Like most men he forgot the meaning of what is is to be faithful to his marriage/wife/kids while he was chuckholding his wife.Me feel sorry for him,hell no!
Rockin

Greyson 02-19-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullDog (Post 53269)
Sex addiction, is that what cheating is called these days or is there a 12 step program for cheaters?

Bully, I do not believe for a moment that all "cheaters" suffer from sex addiction. However I do believe it is possible that one can suffer from sex addicition. Sex Addicts Anonymous (SAA) and Sex and Love Addicts (SLAA) have been in existence for many years.

http://saa-recovery.org/

http://www.slaafws.org/

SuperFemme 02-19-2010 02:41 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J2saapueIg"]YouTube- Oprah Winfrey Show - Inside Sex Addiction Rehab 11/23/2009 Part 1[/ame]

BornBronson 02-19-2010 02:46 PM

IMO,he didn't have to apologize to anyone.He knows what he did was wrong and while he was doing it.In his game it's all about the money...and when he started losing to much of it,well,he called a press conference.After all,you can't have those type of women in your life anymore without all that money..now can you Mr.Woods.

Turn to the lord Tiger,and all will be well.I'd advice the same thing to all those young ladies.Ahhh,but what money can buy.

That is all.

Blade 02-19-2010 02:58 PM

I didn't see it, uhhh well OSHA don't allow TV's on a forklift. This is my take. He doesn't owe anyone anything except his wife and his kids. As for being a role model or a hero and all those kids he let down. #1 kids shouldn't even have a clue as to what sex or adultery is to have that effect their view of him. #2 role models are human they make mistakes, what a great lesson to learn as a child #3 children really should have other role models than athletes#4 leave TW alone and let him deal with whatever his issue is this is a personal matter and the media and the rest of the world should stay out of it.

Martina 02-19-2010 03:18 PM

i didn't see it, but from the earlier press, it sounds like he has an addiction to prescription drugs as well. It makes sense that he might have a number of addictions. Many addicts do. i take sex addiction seriously. Anything you do to alter your state of mind and avoid life, anything which done long term can fuck up your life, that can be a dangerous addiction. i hope the help he is getting works. i wish him the best. He's paying big time for his addictions. Most of us do. He's young, educated and rich though. He's got a chance at a bright future.

Queerasfck 02-19-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BornBronson (Post 53288)
IMO,he didn't have to apologize to anyone.He knows what he did was wrong and while he was doing it.In his game it's all about the money...and when he started losing to much of it,well,he called a press conference.After all,you can't have those type of women in your life anymore without all that money..now can you Mr.Woods.

Turn to the lord Tiger,and all will be well.I'd advice the same thing to all those young ladies.Ahhh,but what money can buy.

That is all.

Yeah Tiger could be just like Jimmy and turn to the lord.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg"]YouTube- I HAVE SINNED[/ame]

AtLast 02-19-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina (Post 53304)
i didn't see it, but from the earlier press, it sounds like he has an addiction to prescription drugs as well. It makes sense that he might have a number of addictions. Many addicts do. i take sex addiction seriously. Anything you do to alter your state of mind and avoid life, anything which done long term can fuck up your life, that can be a dangerous addiction. i hope the help he is getting works. i wish him the best. He's paying big time for his addictions. Most of us do. He's young, educated and rich though. He's got a chance at a bright future.

Yes, a very dangerous addiction. My hope is that through the Tiger Wood's situation, sexual addictions become better understood and recognized for what they are and how they can ruin lives. Treatment for sexual addictions just doesn't get the press that many others do. Some other well known names that come up for me are JFK, Bill Clinton, & Scott Peterson. There are more and women can have sexual addictions too.

I hope with this story unfolding, that the use of modern day male-erectile prescription abuse starts getting some press as well.

sharkchomp 02-19-2010 03:35 PM

It's not any of my business who TW had sex with or the state of his marriage. I also feel it wasn't any of my business who President Clinton screwed around with or his marriage. While they may have public personas, they also have private lives. But that's just my look at things. TW's sexual affairs have no bearing on me buying something from one of his sponsors. He's still the greatest golfer ever.

~~~shark~~~~~~~

BullDog 02-19-2010 03:37 PM

I watched the video. It was a press conference to apologize mostly to his corporate sponsors and the PGA- as he said any apology to his wife would be private. He also let everyone know he would be returning to golf.

He said he had felt he deserved to enjoy himself because he had worked hard and become successful. Maybe he's a sex addict, maybe he isn't. He's rich and famous. He was found out because of that. He's following the path of many celebrities before him for staging a comeback- holding a press conference to say he's sorry and checking himself into rehab.

Just_G 02-19-2010 04:00 PM

So here is my .02 worth: I didn't think one bit of that "apology" was sincere. It was very rehearsed and the only time he looked up was when he wanted to make eye contact with the camera when he said "I'm very sorry". I don't give a rat's ass about Cheetah Woods...he is a liar and a cheater, and has no bearing on my life personally. He has no right to tell the media to leave his family alone when HE is the cause of that dramatic shitty mess.

I do hope he never comes back to play golf again because he will do nothing but make the golf course a circus and a distraction to the other golfers playing the game. (that don't have all the big sponsorships)

I think he DID leave one thing out of his apology, and that would be the tail end of it in the hidden ink, much like people hide things on here...lol :winky:

"I am very sorry I got caught." :bigcry:

Apocalipstic 02-19-2010 04:18 PM

I just have no idea why he is appologizing at all. It is none of our business who he has sex with...I do not get why we care.

The only time it is our business is when politicians and other public figures run on beingagainst Gay Marriage or someone else's sexual escapades, then are found cheating on their spouses in airport restrooms.

is golf supposed to be virtuous?

DapperButch 02-19-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic (Post 53327)
I just have no idea why he is appologizing at all. It is none of our business who he has sex with...I do not get why we care.

The only time it is our business is when politicians and other public figures run on beingagainst Gay Marriage or someone else's sexual escapades, then are found cheating on their spouses in airport restrooms.

is golf supposed to be virtuous?


I absolutely agree with this post. :goodpost:

BullDog 02-19-2010 05:37 PM

Professional athletes and other celebrities make lots of money based on their public image. Lots. Tiger Woods is one of the greatest, if not the greatest golfer, to have ever played the game. However, he did not become a billionaire (yes billionaire) based solely on playing golf. Not even close.

His apology was well scripted, with no questions allowed. The mid February press conference gives him plenty of time to return to golf for all the prime time events. The first of the four majors, the Master's Tournament, is in April. Let's see if he plays.

This article pretty much sums up my thoughts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1

He may be a sex addict and recognize that and be working on it. I have no idea. He may be genuinely sorry. I have no idea. But this was a very scripted, well timed press conference- it's a way for him to make a comeback. It's about the big bucks.

Greyson 02-19-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullDog (Post 53351)
Professional athletes and other celebrities make lots of money based on their public image. Lots. Tiger Woods is one of the greatest, if not the greatest golfer, to have ever played the game. However, he did not become a billionaire (yes billionaire) based solely on playing golf. Not even close.

His apology was well scripted, with no questions allowed. The mid February press conference gives him plenty of time to return to golf for all the prime time events. The first of the four majors, the Master's Tournament, is in April. Let's see if he plays.

This article pretty much sums up my thoughts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1


He may be a sex addict and recognize that and be working on it. I have no idea. He may be genuinely sorry. I have no idea. But this was a very scripted, well timed press conference- it's a way for him to make a comeback. It's about the big bucks.


I think this is a cogent and fair post. I am willing to concede that his press conference in part is about the "big bucks" but I don't believe the press conference was entirely about the money. I also agree that putting ourselves forward as public figures or celebrities does make us fair game for media. However, I don't think the probing media spot light should be extended to their families and friends.

Andrew, Jr. 02-19-2010 06:08 PM

I think today's statement was just a start in the right direction. He owes his wife and family a whole lot more than words. TW's is not a god, but a human being. TW has a ton of money tied up with endorsements and benefits, foundations, charities, etc. that makes him one of the weathiest men today. That is why this apology seemed so practiced. It had to come off perfectly.

I think if Tiger took questions at the end of his statement, it would have made more of an impact.

Mr. Wood

The_Lady_Snow 02-19-2010 06:09 PM

Why is he the only one apologizing?? How come the wife is not apologizing for going after him with a golf club? I mean really, people fuck around one another all the timeeeeeeeeee.. I don't care if he fucked 899 women and 788 men that's not mah business... I could care less if he plays golf and goes home and fucks the entire state of Georgia, he is an adult..

SuperFemme 02-19-2010 06:15 PM

well let's see. Tiger is in recovery for sex addiction.
In recovery making amends is a huge path to healing.
I'm willing to bet his therapist had a hand in the apology
he made to the public. Frankly, I'm just nauseated with
the air time given this matter. How gauche.

Rook 02-19-2010 06:25 PM

Here's my .02 cents, take it as you choose...

The absolute only painfully visible reasons Tiger Woods is even bothering with a Press conference Apology..

1- He could lose a lot of Money...A lot, never mind the fact Nike supports him..{They seem to support Michael Vick too, so their Morality is slightly to the center of dubious}, the others..like Gillette, AT&T etc, those count too, and he'd feel a Huge Pinch in his finance if Corp. Sponsors kept ditching him...

2- He's only sorry he got Caught{again, much like Michael Vick}..Otherwise? He'd probably still be giving the supposedly Clueless chick empty Promises {if any other than another wild night ahead}, I do not buy for a second she had no fucking idea who the Most famous, worldwide known Mixed race Golfer is..Much less the Fact he was Married, That's like Monica Lewinski acting naive and saying "He's the President?"

3- Ok, maybe.....maybe..he is a sex addict and going through Therapy..
If this is true, wouldn't the Wife know this, or even suspect it?..You don't become an Addict overnight, ask any Al-Anon/Narc-Anon therapy attendee...
There are symptoms, and yes, a few do fall off the Wagon every now and then, is he trying to say "I might fuck around again if I'm not strong enough", maybe Hide behind a so-called addiction?...

And I don't really agree about what My focus should be on, rather than this issue with Tiger Woods..
Yes, I'm all for Activism, Gay Marriage, dont Ask Dont Tell repeal, ENDA repeal etc..
But My world doesn't only revolve around these issues...
That to me sounded like the only thing I should pay attention to are crooked politicians screwing over the LGBT community...

The Tiger Woods issue, hits close to Home..
My "sperm donor" happily cheated on my Mother, only expressing remorse when she caught him often[and i'll admit, she was naive to believe him for 10 years]...
Putting her at risk for STD's since he abhored Condoms..
Eventually she walked out, amidst death threats..
So yes, I think Tiger is right up there with pond scum...
Those kids deserve a better Role Model
While watching his body language, all I could mumble was "And the Oscar for best dramatic 'Oops' performance goes to...."

:glasses::blink::hamactor:

sharkchomp 02-19-2010 06:51 PM

I'm not going to judge him, I don't know him. I don't know if he is sincere but he may very well maybe. But I will say this, if he's already a billionare, then why go through with the public apologies? He's already lost most of his sponsors.

I wish him happiness and peace. He didn't rape any women. He didn't kill any dogs or raise them to fight. He made mistakes. He's not perfect and I know I'm not perfect either. No stone throwing from myself.

~~~shark~~~~~~~

Lady Jewel 02-19-2010 06:53 PM

A-fucking-men Adele. Who gives a rats ass? Really? Just sayin.




Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme (Post 53370)
well let's see. Tiger is in recovery for sex addiction.
In recovery making amends is a huge path to healing.
I'm willing to bet his therapist had a hand in the apology
he made to the public. Frankly, I'm just nauseated with
the air time given this matter. How gauche.


Andrew, Jr. 02-20-2010 07:19 AM

I still think if TW showed up playing golf, and back on tour, ignoring the gossip, his new focus would be a relief for him and his family. I think the media needs to leave his wife, and kids out of this mess. This is not their fault by any means.

Sharkchomp, I agree with your post. :goodpost:

apretty 02-20-2010 09:12 AM

the media is presumptuous by all the coverage; the topic is so uninteresting.

well, except for his affinity for *working* white girls.

Diavolo 02-20-2010 09:21 AM

If this country would spend less time worrying about what Tiger did and more time worrying about fixing health care and the economy, educating our children, ending poverty in our own country, actually presenting factual news rather than sound bytes or propaganda to the populous we'd be a whole hell of lot better off.

That being said I saw it. It had all the components of a proper apology. I don't think it was necessary. It's between him and his wife. And really none of our fucking business.

Daktari 02-20-2010 09:36 AM

So, do I have this right? An insanely wealthy, over-privileged sports person makes a public apology for being a bad boy and that's 'world' news? (we got it on our news over here), what a crock!


Which came first, the media's pursuit of salacious stories about famous people or the demand from the populus for such stories? :deepthoughts:


BullDog 02-20-2010 09:39 AM

I would have respected him more if he didn't hold the press conference. He wasn't apologizing to you and I (and I agree didn't need to). It was PR for his career. He has made lots and lots of money by being Mr. Wholesome along with being a great golfer. It was a press conference that he and his people carefully orchestrated. Now he can come back to play golf, try to break Jack Nicklaus' majors record, and continue to make money.

Cyclopea 02-20-2010 10:12 AM

When did billionaire superstars having lots of sex become controversial?
Must have missed that memo.
I could care less.

Queerasfck 02-20-2010 10:15 AM

He apologized for Nike.

BullDog 02-20-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzeeTiger (Post 53825)
He apologized for Nike.

Yep, exactly.


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