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Femminator 01-01-2014 11:08 PM

Getting Sucked off
 
Not sure if I should post this in the Femme section or the Butch section, but figured I would go right to the source.

My Butch straps for me, and I love it. She says that she gets off mentally because she feels that it is an extension of herself, and it gives me pleasure. So, we made love a few nights ago, and I was so turned on that really, really wanted to suck her off, give her strap on head, so to speak. I never thought that it would appeal to me or that I would want make this an expression of my worshiping her. I did not end up doing it because I was not sure if it would make her feel strange, and she is sexually shy, but she is usually open when it comes to my desires. I would like to know what have been others experience with this and how it made them feel. Was it a turn on? Fufilling? Strange? Do you like your Femme to do this for you?

fatallyblonde 01-01-2014 11:11 PM

I enjoy doing it, if it's what my Butch wants. I find it can be very erotic and intimate.

always2late 01-02-2014 12:55 AM

I know you were addressing the question to butches, but if I may add my two cents...I find that giving head to my partners that have strapped to be a huge turn on for me. And, for my partners, it has been an erotic and fulfilling experience for them. But I can only base my opinion on my own experiences. You said you partner is sexually shy, so perhaps this is something she would enjoy or that she wants to try, but has difficulty expressing it or asking for it. I think your best course would be to discuss it with her and, if she is willing, to give it a go! :)

Bad_boi 01-02-2014 02:10 AM

Well it could go in any category really. All genders can strap up. I wouldn't really worry to much. There will always be a slight overlap with a lot of subjects.

I like getting sucked off its one of my favorite things to get me going. I would highly recommend giving it a try if all parties are willing.

I think that if your partner is shy about it then perhaps figure out why she is shy. If she likes it but is embarrassed its kinda one of those things that you can work though. Sometimes eye contact while getting a bj is awkward so that is a common factor for being embarrassed since a lot of it for the receiver is visual stimulation where they would like to watch. A quick glance up at your partner to see if they like it is just fine but more than that can make things a bit odd.

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Femminator (Post 875053)
Not sure if I should post this in the Femme section or the Butch section, but figured I would go right to the source.

My Butch straps for me, and I love it. She says that she gets off mentally because she feels that it is an extension of herself, and it gives me pleasure. So, we made love a few nights ago, and I was so turned on that really, really wanted to suck her off, give her strap on head, so to speak. I never thought that it would appeal to me or that I would want make this an expression of my worshiping her. I did not end up doing it because I was not sure if it would make her feel strange, and she is sexually shy, but she is usually open when it comes to my desires. I would like to know what have been others experience with this and how it made them feel. Was it a turn on? Fufilling? Strange? Do you like your Femme to do this for you?


its one of my favourite things to do. love it. however, there are some that dont understand why on earth I'd bother. The last butch that said "meh" when I mentioned it said "Well I cant feel a thing, I dont understand the point but if it turns you on, knock yourself out, I'll watch." and pointed at her strap on.

I declined. I'm not into doing things for my own pleasure. I want to do things for theirs. And if they dont love it... no point.

That said... one ex of mine didnt really see the point but she had never really worn a strap on before me, so I decided to take the chance and show her. It took a couple of times for her to adjust her brain to it and I stuck with it, just taking it into my mouth briefly before she'd push me on the bed, but she started to really enjoy those few moments and started to suggest them. it would go for quite a while, then she'd take it off, with the vision firmly in her head and have my suck her off the way i sucked her strap on cock off.

worked a treat.

also, sometimes slipping a small vibe(like a little bullet) under the strap on and manipulating it in rythm to the way you are using your mouth works really well on some. that way they can cum in your mouth.

but yeah, eye contact can be a bit much if you are shy. Even I get embarrassed or awkward sometimes looking up.

Daktari 01-02-2014 05:01 AM

Hey Femminator, you say your bootchy is sexually shy about this but not when it comes to your fantasies. Tell her it's your fantasy, as it is, and that you'd love to explore it further. You and she don't know where it will take her brain. She may discover a head connection with her cock that she never considered or had before. Give it a go, you might just blow her mind!

I love being given head. It's uber hot. My experience is that femmes have errm embraced my cock in such ways, whereas those who id as 'regular' dykes never did.
I recall one particular liaison who talked me through a blow-job minute by minute, describing how a bio-boy would be feeling and what would be happening with him physically. That was the hottest blow-job evah :groucho:

I love makin' a girl meet my eye when she's gettin' busy!
:grindevil:

fatallyblonde 01-02-2014 06:11 AM

"it would go for quite a while, then she'd take it off, with the vision firmly in her head and have my suck her off the way i sucked her strap on cock off."

that's hot! and yes works well.

I get super shy during sex but that's part of the fun, lol! a little eye contact is hot, also because I blush and have to stop in a second. hehe.

AnnRkey 01-02-2014 07:52 AM

I enjoy it very much. Again, I believe that one should be all and everything sexually to your partner. I've never believed in limiting myself sexually (well I've never been with males so I guess to an extent I limit males but that's different I've always been attracted to females) with any of my partners. Luckily I've only had a few partners that had some "donts" during sex. Which I understand, all our sexual experiences are different. But it's great when you can find someone on the same page as yourself.

CherylNYC 01-02-2014 08:38 AM

I love, love, LOVE to please a butch this way. It's a huge turn-on for me, and they've all let me know that they're very pleased, indeed.

Get your New Year started off right and go for it!

Happy_Go_Lucky 01-02-2014 08:45 AM

Anything goes.....
 
Anything goes when it comes to love making. Just one thing:

As Long As It Is Consensual!

Two grown-ups can be quite imaginative. :wine:

Parker 01-02-2014 08:59 AM

As a butch, I'll put my 2 cents in:

I never really cared for it - I just did it for a femme who wanted to do it bc she liked it. Same for packing a softie - never cared for it, just did it bc someone I was dating loved it.

But then, I never really thought of my strap-on cock as an extension of ... well, anything really. It was always just a tool I used for penetration sex with my partner if I was with a woman who enjoyed penetration sex.

I tried to get into it - I did all of the things people in these situations tell you to do in order to somehow connect that cock with my clit, but it never happened and it made me feel less than for a long time - like I wasnt a "real" butch if I didnt like strap-on blow jobs or if my strap-on wasnt an extension of my clit or whatever. It was a real mind fuck and not cool at all.

It took me a while to figure out that even though some like to speak for entire groups, they werent speaking for me and they dont speak for all butches - we are all different and allowed to like, dislike, and connect or not connect to whatever we desire. Same for femmes - some like strap-on BJs and some dont - and if a femme doesnt care for it, it doesnt make her a regular dyke or not a femme (neither of which is an insult btw), it makes her a femme who doesnt care for it.

So if I were your partner, I would love for you to ask me and talk to me about it - see how I felt. Am I just being shy or am I avoiding the topic bc I dont like the idea of it but am afraid of how you might react? Keep in mind she might not like it, but is willing to do it for you. On the other hand, she may think it's hot or kinky and didnt know how to broach the topic with you. You'll never know until you ask. :winky:

~ocean 01-02-2014 02:43 PM

~ I could not be w. someone who did not feel that their cock wasn't an extension of their desires ~ I enjoy all parts of what they want ~ and take what they want ~

The_Lady_Snow 01-02-2014 02:47 PM

I love it when my..
 
I love a good blow job, especially mid evening......

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 02:58 PM

well, there are those who would find that a perfect fit, Ocean, rather than a block. I've also been with butches that I absolutely adored who felt their "cock" was in their hands and wasnt keen on strapping. One of them was incredible with her fisting skills and I nick-nammed her "fisty"

And I've been with two femme cock wielding individuals. Meowr.

Its hard not being what the crowd expects you to be as an ID. And annoying. And frustrating. and you get to hear a lot about how one wouldn't want you or would find you not to their taste.

luckily it makes you grow a thicker hide, generally.

It is hard to hear one of your favourite activities doesn't mean anything to a sex partner but that's why I advocate "Sleeping Around" and "Having Fun" and "having actual sex before making rediculous proclamations or commitment" to find out that

hey, actually this isnt as important if they are good at X
or
omg, I really cant do Y no matter how much I like someone, Ive tried it with 26 people now
or
holy crap I cant deal with their cum face and the way they sneeze when they have a finger up their bum.

because "sleeping around" has actually taught me more than I thought I did about what I wanted. I found out I was actually less rigid and it made me less judgemental about kinks I thought I would never, ever be into, until I found myself doing them cause what one person made weird and awkward, another person made fun and hot.

Its kind of like eating that vegetable you thought you hated cause you tried it once boiled, cooked in a different way and you found you actually liked swede.

:D

The_Lady_Snow 01-02-2014 03:08 PM

More thoughts
 
As for me sucking cock, eh, I'll do it, I gotta like you though, I gotta like you a lot, I don't have to be in love, I just gotta like you or maybe lust you a bit.. When it comes to my own cock, I love it, I enjoy it and I prefer to be the sucked but that comes with what space I am in, if I am feeling particularly Stone then it's not gonna happen, though I enjoy having my cock sucked that I strap when in this head space.

Getting sucked is one of those things people should have discussions right away about, (if you are planning on fucking) I feel it is just as important as having the safe sex talk, it will let you know right away where the boundaries are at, I am not fond of and never have been fond of the grunting, demanding, I am (enter gender here) so therefore you will suck my....


That kinda shit right there makes me go :beatcomputer:

Redsunflower 01-02-2014 03:13 PM

Hi there Femminator

What a brilliant thread and interesting discussion. I realise you're looking for butch opinion but I can't help myself from joining in. :D

I've only ever experienced this with one partner but I hope I will again 'cos it was way hot and we both loved it. I don't believe you would regret experimenting and you never know what amazing sensations you'll discover. I hope it's mind-blowing for you both. (I'm tempted to say let us know how you get on but that's probably not the right thing so I'll shut up!)

And Mr D...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 875098)


I recall one particular liaison who talked me through a blow-job minute by minute, describing how a bio-boy would be feeling and what would be happening with him physically. That was the hottest blow-job evah :groucho:


...this sounds awesome, but how did this femme manage to maintain a running commentary with a mouth full of cock? Just wunderin'...

xxx

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 03:22 PM

And maybe it's because I'm so into someone else's pleasure that I follow a general rule... I usually try something 2-3 times with someone before I tell them "actually darlin, I'm not particularly fond of ___" before saying it. cause its a huge turn off to be told something someone likes does nothing for them.

for example If someone tells me they aren't fussed about giving oral, I'm likely not going to let them anywhere near my snatch with their tongue. I'm not a huge fan of receiving it, but there have been those who have made me eat my own words. And I have begged them for it. So.

I generally keep schtum about feeling meh about stuff. I prefer people to have fun and I get caught up in their enthusiasm.

And also why I'll slowly try things on people (giving them the opportunity to say no) without verbally asking first. I have found more people are very receptive to the slow sexy approach to something than the point blank ask. especially if you are still wearing your clothes. Your mileage may vary but I've never ever had a complaint. Maybe I'm just very good at assessment.

But I trust that people have good boundaries and will say stop if they aren't into something. Of course I wont do this with things I know would be off limit or upsetting (eg, penetrate someone who is stone, face slap someone who hates suprises etc, etc).

Its also the way I prefer things to be introduced to me.


But that's also my personality around sex. Again, not everyones cuppa.

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsunflower (Post 875219)
Hi there Femminator



And Mr D...



...this sounds awesome, but how did this femme manage to maintain a running commentary with a mouth full of cock? Just wunderin'...

xxx


I was wondering...

Nadeest 01-02-2014 04:11 PM

I can't say as I have ever done that to a butch, before, although I have with men. Then again, to date, I've been with more men then butches, up to this point. I do think, though, that if she was interested in it, I'd be willing to try it with her.

Daktari 01-02-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsunflower (Post 875219)
Hi there Femminator

What a brilliant thread and interesting discussion. I realise you're looking for butch opinion but I can't help myself from joining in. :D

I've only ever experienced this with one partner but I hope I will again 'cos it was way hot and we both loved it. I don't believe you would regret experimenting and you never know what amazing sensations you'll discover. I hope it's mind-blowing for you both. (I'm tempted to say let us know how you get on but that's probably not the right thing so I'll shut up!)

And Mr D...



...this sounds awesome, but how did this femme manage to maintain a running commentary with a mouth full of cock? Just wunderin'...

xxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 875222)
I was wondering...

Well, yassee, you know how those fabulous experimental sessions go when there's much action, communication and laughter.

Well obviously said chatty femme wasn't talking with her mouth full but kept coming up for air; her hands wouldn't leave my then twitching cock and she would talk through her wide experience of giving bio boy blow-jobs. It was one of the most intense, hot sexual encounters I've had. I had just discovered packing at the time and was packing a wonderful cock that was soft enough for comfortable packing and hard enough to fuck with too. It was that femme who had given me the cock. The old chap got so well used I had to retire him :cheesy:


Parker 01-02-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 875221)
And maybe it's because I'm so into someone else's pleasure that I follow a general rule... I usually try something 2-3 times with someone before I tell them "actually darlin, I'm not particularly fond of ___" before saying it. cause its a huge turn off to be told something someone likes does nothing for them.

**snip**

But I trust that people have good boundaries and will say stop if they aren't into something. Of course I wont do this with things I know would be off limit or upsetting (eg, penetrate someone who is stone, face slap someone who hates suprises etc, etc).

**snip**

I know this wasnt addressed specifically to me, but since I said I dont care for them, I wanted to respond with my thoughts....

I might be "meh" about it, but it isnt even close to what I would call a hard limit for me, so if I was with someone who liked giving strap-on cock BJs, I wouldnt say no or stop her - just as I didnt stop the woman who performed them on me back in the day.

Maybe I should say I could take or leave it; while it might not be something I would expect or ask for, if I was with someone who enjoyed that aspect of sex, I wouldnt say no either. Like honeybarbara, I am really into pleasing my partner, so unless it's a limit I just cannot cross, I wouldnt say no or stop her from doing it - just wouldnt be something I would enjoy as much as other butches (and femmes and transmen) might.

Damn - it's just so hard to explain! OK - because my cock isnt an extension of my clit, receiving a BJ would be enjoyable only in that the femme performing it would be enjoying herself - but I would not enjoy it in the same way a bio-man would or in the same way a butch/femme/transman would who are connected to their cocks as extensions of themselves. Did that make sense?

See how different it can be for everyone and how confusing it can be to explain to strangers, Femminator? lol I think the best you can do is communicate - either before with clothes on or during with clothes off and you are .. um, demonstrating what it is you mean to do.

fatallyblonde 01-02-2014 05:34 PM

totally agree Parker... there is no such thing as one true way for femmes and butches to enjoy sex together... and I think it is really damaging all these false ideals have been erected that we feel pressure to adhere to or else we're not "real". most important thing between partner is honest communication. I certainly don't think my butch should have to enjoy being sucked off... or just put up with it for my sake... and I would never judge her if she didn't want it... in the younger years of the butch-femme community where I live there were a few people who really tried to dictate what was 'real' butch or femme to the rest of us and it was so toxic and vile and had horrible impacts on many people's self-esteem and feeling of belonging... that shit can go to hell!

Dude 01-02-2014 07:08 PM

Then , there are butches Like me , who have been shoving stuff down their pants since they were 12. :] Because of That, I have a few times identified as a cock identified butch which leads people to assume all types of things. Does the fact that I have packed since I was 18 mean it is all sexual for me? Nope. Some of it , is a gender comfort (and I do I D as a woman) Do I pack all the time? Nope.Do I need to use it? No. I also don't consider blowjobs kinky (at all) but different strokes for different folks. Let's not shame people for doing what feels completely natural (for them.)

Don't people just go for >it <any more ? Sigh ;]






My advise: ( no talking ) just do it . She can tell you no or stop if she's not into it.

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 07:29 PM

Daktari that actually that brings up a really good point. some cocks are easier to throat than others.

if you wanna just suck one, any is fine, the realistic soft skin ones are a bit nicer on the mouth, imo but the taste isn't always the greatest. well. neither is pvc but i don't really care.

but if you want to try and throat it as you get a bit more into it, after some practice, heres some suggestions: pick a narrower cock with a smaller head so you can actually push it past the first ring in your throat. Like and inch to an inch and half at most. trust me, even as a sword swallower, large head dildos do nothing but make you bruised and vomit, unless you are into that kind of thing, so are best left for mouth only.

the dlido should be a little bendy, it cant be one of those rock hard ones. and personally one thats too soft will make me gag more but that could just be me.

if you are having trouble but still really wanna manage don't do it from lower down or under. If they are laying down, change your angle to coming at it from above, like 69 but from the side - physically much easier and make sure to not to block the view.

if you still cant here's a trick. eat ice cream. but hold the ice cream in the back of your mouth. see if you can even put a daub on the end of a cock (handy over biocock) - the coldness numbs the gag response.

I would suggest looking at some porn to get ideas for visuals because porn is all about the visual. but for gods sake look at british bj porn, not american. for some reason in the last few years american porn actresses have taken to making this god awful "gauh, guah, guah" loud noise while deep throating with is actually completely unnessesary. *I've NEVER* made that god awful hilarous racket that sounds like a turkey and I've done a lot of it and even did seminars on it. Its a fabricated sound that is baffling to me and frankly, fucking awful. judgy me in my preference.

but if you like it, gobble gobble your socks off, of course!

:)

eta: Parker... I did think you might think I was refering to your thoughts about thinking about BJs :p

no. I was blathering because I just was thinking about shit and flapping my fingers. as I am rambling about types of cock.

and taking something or leaving something is a lot different, to me, than "meh" when it becames all about me and she could read a newspaper while it's going on. Instead of getting excited with me. And what the measure of just how much excitement is considered enough? and some xymales hate blowjobs and some aren't all that moved by them. I know quite a few guys who have never cum that way cause it just doesn't drive it home for them. It's nice, they enjoy it but its not a giant cake of sex.

we all like things to different degrees. as long as slome thought, that's hot to watch... even it they aren't going into la la land and having 15 orgasms from it, that's good enough for me. Plus the vibrator trick while slipping a couple fingers up and sucking on the cock I find makes them reach other bonna even if it's just fun rather than "WOW I FUCKING LOVE BLOW JOBS, ME"

lol right?

Parker 01-02-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude (Post 875314)
Let's not shame people for doing what feels completely natural (for them.)

I totally agree with this. That is why I spoke up in the first place - bc I have been shamed in the past for not packing, for not caring about strap-on cock BJs. People make a lot of generalizations about what butches should and shouldnt do and that is when I speak up - to show people that not all butches are the same, we are all different. I always say: there are as many ways to be butch as there are butches.

And when I do speak up, I use *I* statements to make it clear that I am speaking for and about me and me only so I dont shame others or make them feel judged.

Parker 01-02-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 875318)
eta: Parker... I did think you might think I was refering to your thoughts about thinking about BJs :p

no. I was blathering because I just was thinking about shit and flapping my fingers. as I am rambling about types of cock.

and taking something or leaving something is a lot different, to me, than "meh" when it becames all about me and she could read a newspaper while it's going on. Instead of getting excited with me. And what the measure of just how much excitement is considered enough? and some xymales hate blowjobs and some aren't all that moved by them. I know quite a few guys who have never cum that way cause it just doesn't drive it home for them. It's nice, they enjoy it but its not a giant cake of sex.

we all like things to different degrees. as long as slome thought, that's hot to watch... even it they aren't going into la la land and having 15 orgasms from it, that's good enough for me. Plus the vibrator trick while slipping a couple fingers up and sucking on the cock I find makes them reach other bonna even if it's just fun rather than "WOW I FUCKING LOVE BLOW JOBS, ME"

lol right?

lol, right. (<-- not sarcasm)

And I wasnt sure if you were referring to me or not, but your post got me to thinking so I re-read my original post and wanted to at least try to clarify my feelings around it. Not sure if I made it more clear or muddier, but like I said, you got me thinking and I wanted to make the effort. ;)

imperfect_cupcake 01-02-2014 08:20 PM

heh. don't worry, if I'm reffering to you, oh, you'll know...

you have issues with butch stereotypes... I have trouble with femme ones lol I'm not a lady. You'll know. ;)

Parker 01-02-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeybarbara (Post 875344)
heh. don't worry, if I'm reffering to you, oh, you'll know...

you have issues with butch stereotypes... I have trouble with femme ones lol I'm not a lady. You'll know. ;)

lol, cool - I can live with that.

And my bff is a femme who is constantly told she is not femme or "femme enough," so I feel you on this. :winky:

NitroChrys_Butch 01-02-2014 09:04 PM

What works for some would never work for another. Communicate either with words or actions. It is difficult for some to put their desires into words. Opening up and saying what one wants can be a very frightening thing for some. To lay out their wishes on the table (so to speak) and express outloud what they want is difficult.

For Me. I. Love. It. All. of. It. It messes with her mind and Mine. It makes Me weak in the knees to look at her kneel before My knees and watch that sly little smile cross her lips before she unzips Me. She does this "thing" which I won't go into details that makes Me nuts. Fully clothed. Nuts. It blows My mind. Sometimes she is shy and I do not watch her. I don't make eye contact. Sometimes, she is in a different frame of mind and she is all about having Me watch every glorious second and what she does to Me.

Enjoy. Discover what is right for you. And My best piece of advice? Don't try to make this moment between you fit into someone else's framework.

I would never insist she do this if it didn't do something for her. While giving pleasure to someone while it does nothing for the other person sometimes "works" .. most of the time, it doesn't. I have done things that really don't affect Me greatly other than to know that I am driving her out of her mind, slowly and deliciously.

RockOn 01-02-2014 09:04 PM

growling ... Y-E-S

and spend some time ...

must add - only if she enjoys doing it


Thanks for the topic, hb!


*looking down at 501s*
yep, added task before I fall asleep ;)

Femminator 01-02-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by always2late (Post 875066)
I know you were addressing the question to butches, but if I may add my two cents...I find that giving head to my partners that have strapped to be a huge turn on for me. And, for my partners, it has been an erotic and fulfilling experience for them. But I can only base my opinion on my own experiences. You said you partner is sexually shy, so perhaps this is something she would enjoy or that she wants to try, but has difficulty expressing it or asking for it. I think your best course would be to discuss it with her and, if she is willing, to give it a go! :)

I appreciate anyones input. I wasn't sure where to post it so I started here. LOL Anyone who has experienced it, please DO tell!

Femminator 01-02-2014 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad_boi (Post 875077)
Well it could go in any category really. All genders can strap up. I wouldn't really worry to much. There will always be a slight overlap with a lot of subjects.

I like getting sucked off its one of my favorite things to get me going. I would highly recommend giving it a try if all parties are willing.

I think that if your partner is shy about it then perhaps figure out why she is shy. If she likes it but is embarrassed its kinda one of those things that you can work though. Sometimes eye contact while getting a bj is awkward so that is a common factor for being embarrassed since a lot of it for the receiver is visual stimulation where they would like to watch. A quick glance up at your partner to see if they like it is just fine but more than that can make things a bit odd.

She really had a hard time coming out, and never used any toys with any other partners, so this is all new to her. Unfortunatly, she dated women who encouraged her to stay closeted and, I feel, encouraged her to be ashamed of her sexuality also. So, I really appreciate knowing not to watch while I do it, because it would probably not dawned on me.

~ocean 01-02-2014 10:03 PM

I think its very sexy watching ur butch watch what I am doing and when they watch during penetration ~

Femminator 01-02-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnRkey (Post 875133)
I enjoy it very much. Again, I believe that one should be all and everything sexually to your partner. I've never believed in limiting myself sexually (well I've never been with males so I guess to an extent I limit males but that's different I've always been attracted to females) with any of my partners. Luckily I've only had a few partners that had some "donts" during sex. Which I understand, all our sexual experiences are different. But it's great when you can find someone on the same page as yourself.

I have been with males before, and they really like to push you into giving them head. I tried to give my date head once, and I got physically ill, ran out of the bedroom, and threw up in the bathroom. Last time I ever tried that......I feel absolutely no such feeling at the thought of doing that to my wife, I really, really, am excited to try it with her. So, that is good. I think that is why I was suprised that I was even wanting to try it.

I guess that should have been my first clue I was a Lesbian...... LOL

Femminator 01-02-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parker (Post 875268)
I know this wasnt addressed specifically to me, but since I said I dont care for them, I wanted to respond with my thoughts....

I might be "meh" about it, but it isnt even close to what I would call a hard limit for me, so if I was with someone who liked giving strap-on cock BJs, I wouldnt say no or stop her - just as I didnt stop the woman who performed them on me back in the day.

Maybe I should say I could take or leave it; while it might not be something I would expect or ask for, if I was with someone who enjoyed that aspect of sex, I wouldnt say no either. Like honeybarbara, I am really into pleasing my partner, so unless it's a limit I just cannot cross, I wouldnt say no or stop her from doing it - just wouldnt be something I would enjoy as much as other butches (and femmes and transmen) might.

Damn - it's just so hard to explain! OK - because my cock isnt an extension of my clit, receiving a BJ would be enjoyable only in that the femme performing it would be enjoying herself - but I would not enjoy it in the same way a bio-man would or in the same way a butch/femme/transman would who are connected to their cocks as extensions of themselves. Did that make sense?

See how different it can be for everyone and how confusing it can be to explain to strangers, Femminator? lol I think the best you can do is communicate - either before with clothes on or during with clothes off and you are .. um, demonstrating what it is you mean to do.

What you are saying makes perfect sense, not everyone likes everything sexually. I don't want her to feel she has to 'put up with it' because I would enjoy it. It would ultimately ruin my pleasure in the end if she did that. Sexuality and presentation of such is intensely personal.

She has only recently told me that she does happen to feel that it is an extension of herself when she straps, and she thought I would think her a freak for saying that. She said she kinda mentally gets off on it, so that is also why I think she would enjoy it. She is actually the first Butch to tell me this, the others I have dated have never really been interested in strapping, packing, or felt that it was anything other than something for me to enjoy. That they would not get any actual pleasure other than getting me to cum.

So, it's new to me also, these feelings, and I am so glad that everyone can tell of their experiences and that they are willing to discuss it.

Dude 01-03-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 875268)


I might be "meh" about it, but it isnt even close to what I would call a hard limit for me, so if I was with someone who liked giving strap-on cock BJs, I wouldnt say no or stop her - just as I didnt stop the woman who performed them on me back in the day.

Maybe I should say I could take or leave it; while it might not be something I would expect or ask for, if I was with someone who enjoyed that aspect of sex, I wouldnt say no either. Like honeybarbara, I am really into pleasing my partner, so unless it's a limit I just cannot cross, I wouldnt say no or stop her from doing it - just wouldnt be something I would enjoy as much as other butches (and femmes and transmen) might.

Damn - it's just so hard to explain! OK - because my cock isnt an extension of my clit, receiving a BJ would be enjoyable only in that the femme performing it would be enjoying herself - but I would not enjoy it in the same way a bio-man would or in the same way a butch/femme/transman would who are connected to their cocks as extensions of themselves. Did that make sense?

See how different it can be for everyone and how confusing it can be to explain to strangers, Femminator? lol

You lost me with this. I'm trying to figure out how this would even happen if you told the person you don't care for it. Take it or leave it / meh? I've tried it , it does nothing for me but knock yourself out anyway? We aren't really talking about going to the beach when she'd prefer the mountains ,here. Maybe it's me but I would be pissed if someone wasted my time or energy by going through the motions just because I liked something they did not. Half hour later (meh) is not the kind of sex I want to be having. Instead of trying to make something mesh that does not wouldn't it be more compassionate to say this is just not a good fit?

Redsunflower 01-03-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daktari (Post 875253)
Well, yassee, you know how those fabulous experimental sessions go when there's much action, communication and laughter.

Well obviously said chatty femme wasn't talking with her mouth full but kept coming up for air; her hands wouldn't leave my then twitching cock and she would talk through her wide experience of giving bio boy blow-jobs. It was one of the most intense, hot sexual encounters I've had. I had just discovered packing at the time and was packing a wonderful cock that was soft enough for comfortable packing and hard enough to fuck with too. It was that femme who had given me the cock. The old chap got so well used I had to retire him :cheesy:


Ah, I get it now, thanks for that Mr D.

Rxx

Words 01-03-2014 02:15 PM

Not my/Hys thing. But...

It's amazing what some quality time with a finger or toe can achieve.

For real.

ArkansasPiscesGrrl 01-03-2014 07:07 PM

delish topic!
 
Oh, one of my favorite things to do!!

OK, now that I have that out of the way, I can REALLY share about this topic! :blush:

I came out late in life, so had LOTS of experience with bj's on bio men. Never really did a lot for ME, other than strangely gave me a sense of power, knowing just how crazed I could get them by things I could do with my lips, tongue and mouth. Never liked the end RESULT of that act, but hey.

So fast forward to my coming out at the age of 49. Had a cute little boi that used to pack only for play. Part of our play sometimes was the head trip of me going down on hym. Head trip for BOTH of us, I should add. Hy was not, when I got with hym, cock-centric. Hy was absolutely a butch, but was a female ID butch. See, I love the butch-ness of my butch, the male energy, but I am a lesbian and for ME, I also want to KNOW that I am with a woman.

So when I met Wolfz, I could feel the butch energy roaring back at my Femme energy. This is from a woman that is definately a female-ID'ing butch.

At that time, she did not pack, but she later admitted that she had always WANTED to, but had not been with a woman who would accept that part of her. She does not want to be a man, in any way shape or form. I don't want to be WITH a bio-man again, in any way shape or form. And since we are both exceedingly greedy at heart, we both get what we want!

Sooooo, for example, the idea of rolling over in bed, diving under the covers, pulling down her boxers and grabbing that wonderful soft pack and giving it a little squeeze, looking up at her from under the covers with a devilish grin on my face, oh yeah! To me, seeing her face, her eyes, riveted on me and waiting for what is next is priceless! Slowly sticking just the tip of my tongue out, to flick a bit at the underside of the head, oh yeah. Slowly, seductively, licking my lips, before lowering down, engulfing her cock in my mouth, feeling her sigh and hearing her moan, so so very sexy! Sometimes I love it when she grabs ahold of the hair on my head, directing the pace. (so much so that sometimes, if I REALLY want her to do that, I will grab her hand and squeeze her fingers into my hair to give her the nudge to do that! )

Alright, now, just a quick step back.... do we BOTH know and realize that no, she cannot REALLY feel the sensation of my tongue on the underside of the head of her cock? Of course. And that cock is not, I don't THINK to her, an extension of her clit. But what do they say, 90% of the sexual pleasure one gets is found between one's ears? It is all about the mind fuck. To ME, anyway, I love the fact that I am doing this sexy assed stuff to my woman. And it is turning her on tremendously. Which turns me on. Duh.

Like I said before, I am very greedy girl. I want to be able to fuck and suck a woman who is butch. I love the mind fuck that goes with me sucking on her cock. (Hey, I love the fact that the only excess liquid in my mouth is my own saliva!! I mean, eeeuuuuwww!) But I tell ya, after sucking her to her orgasm, I have a lot of saliva in my mouth. I come up from her cock, grab her hand and hold it up against the front of my throat, and let her FEEEEEEL me swallow! Hell yes, to us, I am swallowing her cum!

OK, now back to the fact that we are both greedy... oftentimes (but not all the time, it depends on where her mind is) I will be going down on her, and grasping the base of her cock in one hand, and my other hand will find it's way underneath the base to her pussy, and her clit. See, to me, that is pure mind play for me... I have a cock in my mouth, my wife's cock. And I have my fingers going in her, or flicking her clit. I have the male energy AND the female energy to play with. Heaven! And for her, she gets to be greedy too, allowing me to help her acknowledge her butch side with her cock, and feeling the wonders of woman-on-woman sex!

Don't know if any of this would be for anyone else, but like others here have said, this is what works for US. I have all kinds of ideas on the "hows" to do things, but sometimes I need to think through the "whys". But then again, the whys don't really matter anymore. We just both know we love it!

APG

ProfPacker 01-03-2014 07:21 PM

wow, you wrote my fantasy but I am femme and like to pack, I know I am very much a woman and like to be with femmes as well as butches. I love my femme cock being given a blow job and doing other wonderful things bringing mutual joy.


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