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Nat 05-07-2010 05:25 PM

Backscatter
 
I just read an article about a TSA employee who attacked a colleague for making fun of the size of his junk during a body-scanning machine training session.

That got me to thinking about the whole backscatter x-ray thing. I am not cool with the idea of people I haven't met and do not want to meet seeing basically my naked body in order for me to get on a plane. What's next, body cavity search? It feels extremely violative to me. Moreso if men are the ones at these machines - but I'm not sure if there is a female-only policy on this one(?)

Anyway, I'm curious how y'all feel about this issue.

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Nat 05-07-2010 05:30 PM

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Andrew, Jr. 05-07-2010 05:37 PM


For a supervisor to make fun of one of his students...no. I think that the student has a right to make and file a lawsuit against him. Today is a different world due to terrorism and 9/11. I voted for these scanners. I would rather be safe, and catch someone in the act.

When I go thru most airports I practically have to undress. I'm use to it. I have my shoes, belt, all my change, wallet, cell phone, and anything else possible that could set off the security alarm off and in a plastic dog dish. I have been wanded at least 3 or 4 times, and someone usually calls for backup. I give up. I pack, and I wear a jock strap or a harness. I also carry a letter in my pocket from my doctor stating that I am trans just in case. I have been thru the ringer.

I know that doctors make fun of patients. People make fun of those who are obese, disabled, or different. Why should I be shocked that another group is doing this? I am just waiting for adults to act like adults, but I think I will be waiting a very long time for that to happen from my pov.

Good thread Nat.

Nat 05-07-2010 05:42 PM

Okay, the TSA's site states, "It is important to note that this technology is always optional to passengers." So that's somewhat of a comfort.

Andrew, what I'm beginning to think is that this is exactly what adults act like. This behavior comes standard on lots of models.

Andrew, Jr. 05-07-2010 05:46 PM


Yep, you aren't kidding. I throw my arms up in utter frustration.

theoddz 05-07-2010 05:55 PM

This is just yet another reason that I am becoming more and more reluctant to fly.

I have the issue of being trans and not having had bottom surgery. I also have 2 prosthetic titanium knees which always set the scanner and wand alarms off. I have to get wanded every single time and because I present as male, the person who wands me and pats me down is always a bio male. The 4 times I have flown anywhere, since I had top surgery and had my name and gender markers all changed, I was patted down by (bio)males who did run their hands over my crotch area. It was very uncomfortable for me and I did not choose to reveal my trans status at the time, either. I don't think I should have to reveal that since it's really a non-issue.

These full body scans are intrusive and humiliating enough, without being trans (and not having bottom surgery) and having disability issues going on at the same time. I avoid flying at all costs. I'd love to travel more than I do, but it's very difficult for me. Add to all this the fact that I'm a large/tall guy and have trouble fitting my legs in seats that afford very little leg room, much less a wide enough seat and, well, the entire ordeal turns out to be very unpleasant for me. :(

~Theo~ :bouquet:

apretty 05-07-2010 06:44 PM

i am probably speaking from a place of privilege... i'm willing to consider that, because i don't have a strong feeling either way.

so some guy gets a thrill seeing my boobies, it's one more cost of the society that we live in--do you have any idea how many cameras are on the public streets, and how many times a day your image is captured..?

so, i shrug.

Kobi 05-07-2010 06:48 PM

I refuse to fly anymore. I dont know who is worse....potential terrorists or those trying to save us from them.

:3stooges:

And, I believe all this extra "screening" is a waste of time and resources. We are always reacting after the fact rather than nipping the problem in the bud.


Nat 05-07-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apretty (Post 101282)
i am probably speaking from a place of privilege... i'm willing to consider that, because i don't have a strong feeling either way.

so some guy gets a thrill seeing my boobies, it's one more cost of the society that we live in--do you have any idea how many cameras are on the public streets, and how many times a day your image is captured..?

so, i shrug.

Where would your limit be? Would you be cool with a body cavity search too?

Nat 05-07-2010 07:21 PM


Massive 05-07-2010 07:25 PM

Well, to be honest, coming from the UK, I feel more not less comfortable flying if I know that people are being properly checked before being allowed on a plane, if I'm flying over the pond I don't want to have to be put in a position where I'll have to tackle some arsehole who wants to kill me purely because of where I'm from, I've got no issues with them, just leave me out of your 'religous' disputes, go take it up with your own god tyvfm!
Anyhow, yeah, the guy should never have ridiculed his student, but I am all for these x-ray machines being used!

apretty 05-07-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nat (Post 101285)
Where would your limit be? Would you be cool with a body cavity search too?

i wouldn't be cool with a cavity search, the lines are already hours long through security--unless they were throwing in a pap smear, then i could just plan for it and schedule the extra time.

Jet 05-07-2010 08:25 PM

i just want to be in good shape when they do it. wouldn't want to disappoint anyone who gets a charge on the job.

Mister Bent 05-07-2010 08:33 PM

I wonder if they would let you just photoshop it a little, you know, to tighten things up a bit.

Fix those nagging flaws.

Draw in a penis.

Stuff like that.

T D 05-07-2010 08:33 PM



I haven't flown since Sep 10, 2001, and it will be fine by me if I never have to fly again!!

I personally find it sad that we have to x-ray peoples entire bodies in order to fly anywhere!! :|


Nat 05-07-2010 08:50 PM

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torchiegirl 05-07-2010 09:09 PM

It is just creepy to me, creepy *shivver

torchiegirl 05-07-2010 09:19 PM

one snatch
 
I gave this a bit of thought. Passengers should just go to body suits designed like stripper pants, held together with velcro, and when they're asked step to the side for inspection, they could just rip their clothing off in one snatch.

Queerasfck 05-08-2010 01:32 AM

It's already been done.

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