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iamkeri1 04-27-2011 09:33 AM

The B-F Community is exciting to me because it is the only place I have found affirmation for myself as a femme. I spent many years in politically active and politically correct Ann Arbor MI. Now that was a hard place to be a femme. I was actually degraded for wearing dresses - or makeup (dresses are soooo much cooler in a hot Michigan summer.) The norm was "andro" which translated at least in appearance to everyone looking (to me, the femme) butch. So most relationships at least in physical appearance were butch with butch.

Historically I have mostly been in relationships where the person I was with transitioned FTM. This reeked havoc with my lesbian identity, but conversely carries much privilege with it. What I made peace with over time, is that my ftm partner must have come out of the gay community and hopefully still identify somewhere along the queer continuum.

I find love hot.

If you as butch love another butch person, that is hot.
Femme loving Femme is hot.
Femme loving butch is hot
Femme lovng FTM is hot
Femme loving MTF is hot.

Finding someone to love who loves you back in this hard old world is hot
Smooches,
Keri

SoberBoi 05-08-2011 02:19 PM

Thank you for posting this! I have been feeling kind of lost because of this same issue.

I am a boi...not femme in any way, shape or form. I am attracted to butches. I like someone with strong shoulders and confidance who has not removed or contoured any female parts. I find tattoos and muscles sexy and I am totally not into BDSM, role-playing, vampirism, or any other new wave ideas... LOL

I am simply a boi that likes to be in the company of a gentleman. I do not want to be expected to be a girl counterpart or any of that. I just want a nice butch who is naturally butch, not forced or trying to be anything they are not. I don't care if I call my partner by masculine pronouns or they are completely male-identified, I just want a nice butch with a good heart.

Does that make me odd? :)

I know there are more of us out there....c'mon, 'fess up!

QueenofSmirks 05-08-2011 04:02 PM

Batten down the hatches and prepare for a shit storm, Sober Boi. Some of us will take your post for exactly how you meant it, but don't be surprised if you see a barrage of posts nit-picking every single word of your post and drawing conclusions that you didn't intend. Most of those posts will come from people whose insecurities crop up when they read words that state a preference that doesn't include them. Don't let it discourage you - it's an unfortunate reality of public posting.

Good luck finding your ideal partner ... there are many fine people on this site :)


The_Lady_Snow 05-08-2011 04:06 PM

Welcome to BFP!!!

Hope you find a gentleman butch and good friends!!!

NorCalStud 05-08-2011 04:10 PM

For every action in life we have only to come from a place of LOVE. If what we are saying and what we are doing does not come from a position of love and regard...we may be wasting time. I have to ask myself regularly..."Am I teaching or punishing?" In play? Punishing is pleasure...in real life...it is unacceptable .

Merlin 05-08-2011 04:11 PM

Labels are for tins,whatever floats your boat is fine.
So long as you are true to yourself.


Me .. I am a femme worshipper, I adore everything about a femme. It's in my blood :wine:

weatherboi 05-08-2011 04:25 PM

Hey!!! I'm in a Femme Led relationship which can be the minority here!! Don't be discouraged!!! There's some good folks here!!

Merlin 05-08-2011 04:28 PM

I am hoping to meet some good folk .. Just stating my preference is all.

As for labels .. :seeingstars: mega confusion.

Only label yourself not others lol.

MarineCorps1 04-14-2012 06:30 PM

Sigh. If only I had found this post when it was still active.

macele 04-14-2012 10:43 PM

hey marinecorps, you just re activated it! maybe others will share, i hope, for you.

i have been attracted to many butches. i'm butch. i've also been jealous of many butches lol. if i've ever been jealous of a femme, i can't recall. i'm thinking as i'm typing, so if i don't make sense lol.

i've always felt that no one can tell me who to fall in love with. i've never been in love with a butch, nor have i ever had sex with a butch. but no one can tell me i can't. i will if i want to.

yeah, i guess i'm just a femme lovin' butch lol.

Jaques 04-15-2012 01:52 AM

i feel there are no wrongs or rights in this, makes no difference, its about two women who are attracted to one another, butch & butch or femme & femme, we all have our preferences so theres no valid reason to discriminate...........

MarineCorps1 04-16-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoberBoi (Post 335213)

I am simply a boi that likes to be in the company of a gentleman. I do not want to be expected to be a girl counterpart or any of that. I just want a nice butch who is naturally butch, not forced or trying to be anything they are not. I don't care if I call my partner by masculine pronouns or they are completely male-identified, I just want a nice butch with a good heart.

Thank you so much - you took the words right out of my mouth.
And I agree, tattoos and muscles are HOOOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!

MarineCorps1 04-16-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macele (Post 565263)
hey marinecorps, you just re activated it! maybe others will share, i hope, for you.

i have been attracted to many butches. i'm butch. i've also been jealous of many butches lol. if i've ever been jealous of a femme, i can't recall. i'm thinking as i'm typing, so if i don't make sense lol.

i've always felt that no one can tell me who to fall in love with. i've never been in love with a butch, nor have i ever had sex with a butch. but no one can tell me i can't. i will if i want to.

yeah, i guess i'm just a femme lovin' butch lol.


Thanks for your response - and I agree, I've been attracted to both, too. And your last line of that last paragraph will officially become my new mantra - "I will if I want to!!!" hahahaha

Thanks again!:hangloose:

ArkansasPiscesGrrl 04-16-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorps1 (Post 566547)
Thanks for your response - and I agree, I've been attracted to both, too. And your last line of that last paragraph will officially become my new mantra - "I will if I want to!!!" hahahaha

Thanks again!:hangloose:

*grinning* Picturing a kid, stomping their feet, sticking their chin out. I would even add the phrase "you're not the boss of ME!"

WingsOnFire 04-16-2012 10:21 PM

I have had the honor and pleasure of knowing a butch/butch couple. It is a very intense dynamic and one I also find HOT. lol.

And APG... I can SOOOO see that foot stomping action here as well...

not2shygrrl 04-17-2012 12:37 AM

OK, my 2 cents! The package we fantasize and hope for, it is just the start, the reality is that when you care/love another and have that love/care back from them, it is what makes your morning sunny! It is what makes us hurry up home at the end of the day, why we want to snuggle with them in bed, it is why they turn us on and much more!! I think how someone looks is just the tip of the iceberg that is to be discovered.

I agree that physical attraction does have its place, yup yup. On the same token have you ever been disappointed by someone who is outwardly beautiful (all genders included) and yet gags you with their personality?? I have, and I am not naive to think I have not gagged someone by my personality and/or looks. Likely I have, but its ok, life goes on.

My ideas of a partner when fantasizing and wondering are nice and can be exciting, certainly wanted and needed in my mind, to dream. I tend to be reality based in most approaches in this life, and my reality is......... what is in your heart is what attracts me. I don't limit myself to whom it is that attracts me with this one exception, age. ( It is one of my quirks and imperfections that I accept about myself) So many of you here in the planet for one reason or another I think are very attractive and or sexy! If I eliminate femmes from potential dating....I may pass on the best thing that would have ever happened to me in not even giving her a chance. Or enter any description you want where I used the word femme. The list can be long so please don't be offended for not seeing your ID listed.

Love who you want to love, if they love you, and enhance your happiness as well as you do for them, if you support each other when times demand it, its a win win! When I look at a couple and see they care for and love each other, who cares if it is homosexual, heterosexual, or any of the other variations of relationships. It is your life, if you are butch and want to be with another butch then go for it! What works for you may not work for me in determining potential in a person of interest. I respect you no less because of your choices.

Of course my post here is purely my opinion only, I speak for no one but myself. It is not my intent to insult anyone. Thank you BF Planet, as well as the members for providing this site and the many opportunities to speak and be heard respectfully. It is one of the few places I come to and don't feel as if topics are about being right or wrong.......

ChainerBoi 04-19-2012 11:27 PM

Butch/butch relationships have a whole different level of... I dunno... something going on. I think, for me, it's more cerebral, more... spiritual? A more intense type of sexuality - and less predictable.

ChainerBoi 04-21-2012 04:18 PM

Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

Chancie 04-21-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChainerBoi (Post 569694)
Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

I hope I'm not sorry if I ask, What does that mean?

Quintease 04-21-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChainerBoi (Post 569694)
Or, as someone in a previous post said, "A celebration of equals."

Thanks.

Wow...

How fcking insulting.


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