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Medusa 04-06-2010 04:51 PM
More Homophobic Bullshit from Itawamba
 
Remember Constance McMillen who has been all over the news as of late for being disallowed to the Prom?

As of late, we have discovered through various news stories that Constance was sent to a "fake" prom by parents and students. She, along with 6 other students, two of which who were learning disabled, were sent to a "fake prom" event at the country club while everyone else attended a secret parent-sponsored prom.

Today, I discovered that some kids have started a Facebook page to further bully Constance. The page is entitled "Constance quit yer cryin".

I have joined the page to voice my opinion and will be unjoining shortly. Hundreds of other folks have done the same.

To say that I am AGOG at the mean-spirited nature of what these kids and parents have done to Constance would be an understatement.

I have sent multiple letters to the school board and am now trying to obtain the address and contact info for the Parent Advisory Committee who helped sponsor the "secret" Prom.

Im just pissed and wanted to vomit.

Diva 04-06-2010 05:04 PM
Medusa,

I just went to Facebook and typed in "Constance quit yer cryin" and there was nothing there.....

Could it have been removed in this short amount of time?

Thanks.

Cyclopea 04-06-2010 05:10 PM
Joe.My.God. had some photos up earlier from the "secret bigot prom" showing all the happy haters boogying down. I just went to post them but he removed them. That's okay, they would have made you puke. :nauseated smilie:

Jet 04-06-2010 05:15 PM
you have a lot of conviction and social conscience.
good for you.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 80048)
Remember Constance McMillen who has been all over the news as of late for being disallowed to the Prom?

As of late, we have discovered through various news stories that Constance was sent to a "fake" prom by parents and students. She, along with 6 other students, two of which who were learning disabled, were sent to a "fake prom" event at the country club while everyone else attended a secret parent-sponsored prom.

Today, I discovered that some kids have started a Facebook page to further bully Constance. The page is entitled "Constance quit yer cryin".

I have joined the page to voice my opinion and will be unjoining shortly. Hundreds of other folks have done the same.

To say that I am AGOG at the mean-spirited nature of what these kids and parents have done to Constance would be an understatement.

I have sent multiple letters to the school board and am now trying to obtain the address and contact info for the Parent Advisory Committee who helped sponsor the "secret" Prom.

Im just pissed and wanted to vomit.

Medusa 04-06-2010 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diva (Post 80058)
Medusa,

I just went to Facebook and typed in "Constance quit yer cryin" and there was nothing there.....

Could it have been removed in this short amount of time?

Thanks.
You might be able to get to it through my wall, babydoll.

Gemme 04-06-2010 05:16 PM
Fuckers, the lot of them.

Medusa 04-06-2010 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclopea (Post 80064)
Joe.My.God. had some photos up earlier from the "secret bigot prom" showing all the happy haters boogying down. I just went to post them but he removed them. That's okay, they would have made you puke. :nauseated smilie:
Tell me about it. I just looked at some of the pictures *eyeroll*
One of them was of a girl doing the whole "make your first two fingers look like a V and waggle your tongue through it to simulate eating pussy" thing.
*double eyeroll*

And to all - Remember that the kids are just kids, Im directing my anger at the parents who sponsored the secret prom.

Gemme 04-06-2010 05:22 PM
M---I have to say that even though they are just kids, if they are old enough to go to a prom, they are old enough to know right from wrong and that their behavior is hurtful to others.

For me, they get their share of blame and disgust as well.

Cyclopea 04-06-2010 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 80072)
Tell me about it. I just looked at some of the pictures *eyeroll*
One of them was of a girl doing the whole "make your first two fingers look like a V and waggle your tongue through it to simulate eating pussy" thing.
*double eyeroll*

And to all - Remember that the kids are just kids, Im directing my anger at the parents who sponsored the secret prom.
I disagree. Seniors in high school are responsible for their own actions- or lack thereof.

Cyclopea 04-06-2010 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 80078)
M---I have to say that even though they are just kids, if they are old enough to go to a prom, they are old enough to know right from wrong and that their behavior is hurtful to others.

For me, they get their share of blame and disgust as well.
What she said! :)

Diva 04-06-2010 05:23 PM
I couldn't find the Parent Advisory Committee contact info. But I DID find this:

The Itawamba County School District needs to hear from YOU:

Superintendent Teresa McNeece
tmcneece@itawamba.k12.ms.us
phone (662) 862-2159 Ext. 14

Principal Trae Wiygul
twiygul@itawamba.k12.ms.us
(662) 862-3104

Let's keep those phones ringing off the hook. And I would encourage you, if possible, to fax your letters in addition to emailing them. The school's fax number: you can send a fax to (662) 862-5494.


Enjoy being subverse. :mob:

Corkey 04-06-2010 05:24 PM
They are old enough to know how to hate, they are old enough to learn compassion.

Medusa 04-06-2010 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 80078)
M---I have to say that even though they are just kids, if they are old enough to go to a prom, they are old enough to know right from wrong and that their behavior is hurtful to others.

For me, they get their share of blame and disgust as well.
Oh yeah, and I prettttttty much agree with this - Im just thinking that some of these kids are closer to 15 and 16 than 17 and 18 and that their emotional intelligence is obviously lacking.
I do agree that they know their behavior is hurtful - I think back to the "mean girl and boy" mentality of high school and how kids who are too scared to think for themselves will often follow the crowd because its "safer" for them (thinking of all of those Queer kids who "act straight" in small towns in order to keep from getting the shit kicked out of them)

I think that people at that age aren't wholly formed yet and that maybe hearing and seeing the backlash might help them evolve a little. Or not. :)

I do think that Constance is incredibly brave and level and has shown immense grace under all of the stabby stuff. I hope that in some small way she gains strength from seeing all of the thousands of people who support her and love her.

Selenay 04-06-2010 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 80194)
Oh yeah, and I prettttttty much agree with this - Im just thinking that some of these kids are closer to 15 and 16 than 17 and 18 and that their emotional intelligence is obviously lacking.
I do agree that they know their behavior is hurtful - I think back to the "mean girl and boy" mentality of high school and how kids who are too scared to think for themselves will often follow the crowd because its "safer" for them (thinking of all of those Queer kids who "act straight" in small towns in order to keep from getting the shit kicked out of them)

I think that people at that age aren't wholly formed yet and that maybe hearing and seeing the backlash might help them evolve a little. Or not. :)

I do think that Constance is incredibly brave and level and has shown immense grace under all of the stabby stuff. I hope that in some small way she gains strength from seeing all of the thousands of people who support her and love her.


If I'm able to the difference between acceptance and hate at 20, I'm willing to bet they know this stuff at 18.

I am unwilling to excuse their poor behavior simply because of their age; many of them will go off to college later this year, many of them will have their own bank accounts, cars, apartments.

If you are old enough to get behind the wheel and risk not only your life, but that of others (you can do that at sixteen, so even if they are young for their grade...) then you are 100% responsible for the affect of your "nonviolent" "harmless" actions.

Gemme 04-06-2010 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 80194)
Oh yeah, and I prettttttty much agree with this - Im just thinking that some of these kids are closer to 15 and 16 than 17 and 18 and that their emotional intelligence is obviously lacking.
I do agree that they know their behavior is hurtful - I think back to the "mean girl and boy" mentality of high school and how kids who are too scared to think for themselves will often follow the crowd because its "safer" for them (thinking of all of those Queer kids who "act straight" in small towns in order to keep from getting the shit kicked out of them)

I think that people at that age aren't wholly formed yet and that maybe hearing and seeing the backlash might help them evolve a little. Or not. :)

I do think that Constance is incredibly brave and level and has shown immense grace under all of the stabby stuff. I hope that in some small way she gains strength from seeing all of the thousands of people who support her and love her.
Group think, absolutely, and trying to blend in and stay under the radar are definitely memories from high school I could do without. I am so glad to not be there now.

I agree that Constance has behaved with a grace light years ahead of her age. I appreciate that she's kept mum about her gf's name, to keep the backlash and media off of her. Whether it was her decision or the parents of the gf that decided that, it shows a maturity in her that she respects her gf's privacy.

Maybe I'm more harsh because:

1. I don't like teenagers in general.
2. I am a product of Mississippi and I turned out well and was respectful at that age, so why the Hell can't others be?
3. Living in a Navy town, I constantly come into contact with teenagers who've enlisted and I see the change that structure and emotional growth sponsor.
4. I want to enlist all of them that went to the parent-sponsored prom. Now. :blink:

I didn't know of many freshmen or sophomores who went to prom at my school. It was almost all seniors and some juniors. Or maybe I've just blocked those years out. Anything's possible.

Medusa 04-06-2010 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Selenay (Post 80210)



If I'm able to the difference between acceptance and hate at 20, I'm willing to bet they know this stuff at 18.

I am unwilling to excuse their poor behavior simply because of their age; many of them will go off to college later this year, many of them will have their own bank accounts, cars, apartments.

If you are old enough to get behind the wheel and risk not only your life, but that of others (you can do that at sixteen, so even if they are young for their grade...) then you are 100% responsible for the affect of your "nonviolent" "harmless" actions.

How did I know you would check me on this?! :P

I think Im a little colored through my personal lens of evolution :)
My own growth around more evolved thinking didnt happen until I was about 19 or 20 - Until then, I had my head STRAIGHT up my ass. I have a little room to believe that could be true for other folks.

I do agree that they are responsible for their actions and wish I could pinch their little asshattish heads off one by one but I guess the believer in me hopes that they a few of them will be embarrassed by what they have done (in the public spotlight no less!) and maybe evolve a little...even become an advocate or ally.
One can dream :)

Medusa 04-06-2010 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme (Post 80211)


Maybe I'm more harsh because:

1. I don't like teenagers in general.

See, I KNEW I loved you for a reason :P

Selenay 04-06-2010 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 80214)
How did I know you would check me on this?! :P

I think Im a little colored through my personal lens of evolution :)
My own growth around more evolved thinking didnt happen until I was about 19 or 20 - Until then, I had my head STRAIGHT up my ass. I have a little room to believe that could be true for other folks.

I do agree that they are responsible for their actions and wish I could pinch their little asshattish heads off one by one but I guess the believer in me hopes that they a few of them will be embarrassed by what they have done (in the public spotlight no less!) and maybe evolve a little...even become an advocate or ally.
One can dream :)

I make this point not to check you or devalue your point, because I think my hope is as fervent as is yours that they learn from this.

I just feel that if we keep excusing this behavior as "oh they're just kids, they don't know any better" then we devalue them as adults and valuable members of the community. How can we expect them to be meaningful members of the community if they're always too young to know better?

And it's a hot-button of mine *s

Martina 04-06-2010 07:37 PM
What most kids care about is what others think. That's true for lots of adults too. When it becomes uncool to criticize queer folks, only the true haters will.

But with their parents and administrators behind them, it will be a long time before that happens in that backwater.

Andrew, Jr. 04-06-2010 08:21 PM

Nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing. Hate is hate. It is everywhere.

Medusa, thank you and God bless you for your compassion.

Diva, thank you for the #'s, fax's, and the people's names. You are a gem!

Love,
Andrew


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