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Toughy 04-15-2013 05:22 PM

Boston Marathon bombings.......
 
I have to say something........I'm surprised this is the first thread.........

my bet is domestic origins......

peaceful and understanding thoughts to all the family and friends....

The Oopster 04-15-2013 05:27 PM

I am too. I know scorp and ladiivina are okay. I thank the latter is Julie's screen name

The Oopster 04-15-2013 05:28 PM

Nor sure who else is in Boston but I hope all are okay

Inked_Trinity 04-15-2013 05:30 PM

“There is a saying in Tibetan, ‘Tragedy should be utilized as a source of strength.’ No matter what sort of difficulties, how painful experience is, if we lose our hope, that’s our real disaster.”

~ Dalai Lama XIV

princessbelle 04-15-2013 05:31 PM

Glued to the tube. Knot in my stomach. As it is, every time.

Loving and healing thoughts sent to all of those involved and to our country.


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Linus 04-15-2013 05:31 PM

Right now, I'm tired of watching the news and seeing how graphic the news channels are being, trying to out do each other in gore. That said, I think it's too early to say that this is one kind of terror or another. Too much is still going on and until things settle down enough will they find out who is responsible. The NY Post earlier claimed that a Saudi was under guard at one of the hospitals and believed to be a suspect.

I think it may be better to figure out how we can help (e.g. blood donations, $$ donations) than anything else.

I posted this on my FB and post it here for others:

If you are trying to find out about missing loved ones, please call 617-635-4500. You can also use Google's person finder if you're looking for someone or have information: http://upwr.me/116NRcO.

If you saw or know anything about the bombings, please call 1-800-494-TIPS.

And if you've been triggered into stress by these events, please make a free call to the Disaster Distress Line: 1-800-985-5990.

Hollylane 04-15-2013 05:31 PM

Boston Marathon, it looks like they found two other devices that have been located and are either being dismantled or are dismantled. I am so sickened by the news, and the possibility of any additional devices that have not been found.

I moved this from the Breaking News thread...

nhplowboi 04-15-2013 05:49 PM

Toughy, I have to aree with you or say it is possibly a lone wolf. Pipe bombs, really?! Very primitive (but deadly) and nothing I would associate with an organized group. They will catch this/these morons but it will never compensate for the loss of life or life altering injuries that have been incurred.

Sparkle 04-15-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy (Post 783517)
I have to say something........I'm surprised this is the first thread.........

my bet is domestic origins......

peaceful and understanding thoughts to all the family and friends....

I don't know if it's domestic or international terrorism but they were definitely "small scale" bombings - meant to draw attention (international attention), not meant for mass casualties. It seems likely the bombs were placed in trash cans on the sidewalks, which is also indicative small attention getting/statement making terrorist acts.

It goes without saying that any causalities and injuries are horrific regardless of the quantities.

But if the bombers/bombing organizations wanted to cause mass casualties the bombs would have gone often earlier (at the height of the race), would have been much bigger, and likely in bigger targets (like the Prudential Center).

There have been reports out that both the start and finish lines of the race had bomb sniffing dogs and a much higher (and notable) police presence and that race organizers and volunteers stated their presence was "just a drill".

It's terrible regardless of who committed the act.

Kobi 04-15-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 783544)
I don't know if it's domestic or international terrorism but they were definitely "small scale" bombings - meant to draw attention (international attention), not meant for mass casualties. It seems likely the bombs were placed in trash cans on the sidewalks, which is also indicative small attention getting/statement making terrorist acts.

It goes without saying that any causalities and injuries are horrific regardless of the quantities.

But if the bombers/bombing organizations wanted to cause mass casualties the bombs would have gone often earlier (at the height of the race), would have been much bigger, and likely in bigger targets (like the Prudential Center).

There have been reports out that both the start and finish lines of the race had bomb sniffing dogs and a much higher (and notable) police presence and that race organizers and volunteers stated their presence was "just a drill".

It's terrible regardless of who committed the act.


I agree. With 20,000 official runners and thousands of spectators at the starting line, and other more populated areas along the route, this could have been catastrophic.

The news reports are getting so redundant now, I can recite them verbatim.

Corkey 04-15-2013 05:56 PM

Regardless of who did it it was an act of terror. Foreign or domestic. My heart goes out to the victims and their families. Our own family has folks from Boston, and is a runner. We do not know if he ran today, and are patiently waiting for word. Will wait patiently for word of the perp when it is verified.

Semantics 04-15-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhplowboi (Post 783543)
Toughy, I have to aree with you or say it is possibly a lone wolf. Pipe bombs, really?! Very primitive (but deadly) and nothing I would associate with an organized group. They will catch this/these morons but it will never compensate for the loss of life or life altering injuries that have been incurred.

The profiling I've seen of the perpetrator(s) so far is interesting and all over the place. CNN and the NY Post are both reporting that the devices were remotely detonated. If this is true, I wouldn't describe that work as "primitive".


Regardless of who the guilty party may be, it's important to remember that they don't represent the beliefs and actions of the majority of people- no matter who they claim to identify with. I've seen so many ugly accusations flying around today. It makes me so tired.

Prayers for all affected. Violence has no place in a civil society.

Massive 04-15-2013 06:07 PM

My heart, thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Boston right now.

Ginger 04-15-2013 06:29 PM

It wasn't fun getting on the subway tonight after watching the news at my desk at work. There were a lot of cops on the platform. I work a block from the World Trade Center. I expect there will be a certain amount of increased security in that neighborhood tomorrow. I said to myself, when I heard the news, It's begun. Of course, it began a long time ago.

I can't imagine how people in Boston must feel. They must be wondering if their city is about to become Haifa or Tel Aviv or Kabul or London or Belfast.

This morning I read an op-ed piece in the New York Times that made me cry. A man who has been detained at Guantanamo for 11 years, along with about 40 others, is holding a hunger strike, and he wrote about being force fed so brutally he's vomiting blood.

The news isn't his treatment, the news is that news of his treatment broke through to the Times op-ed page. That's what the media is talking about.

And now whatever huge strategic victory that op-ed piece represented for that man and others held for a decade or more without a trial or even being charged, it's now overshadowed by the attack in Boston, and I am wondering if, in fact, the bombing in Boston has triggered even more brutal treatment of the people there.

So that's what I'm thinking about. That and the parents of the 8-year-old who died in the bombing today in Boston.

Parker 04-15-2013 06:38 PM

Saw this on Twitter - people offering shelter to those stranded in Boston with no place to go or stay: I have a place to offer -- in case anyone here is in contact with friends/family in Boston who need a soft place to land.

And Google person finder can help find loved ones or report that someone is with you.

Kobi 04-16-2013 07:27 AM

Martin Richard, 8
 

Martin Richard was standing near the finish line, waiting for his father to complete the grueling Boston Marathon on Monday, when an explosion took his life.

He was 8 years old and in the third grade.

Neighbor Jane Sherman told WCVB that Martin was a typical little boy, who loved to ride his bike and play baseball.

Martin's mother, Denise, was hospitalized with "grievous injuries," The Times of London reported. She reportedly underwent surgery late Monday for an injury to her brain.

His 6-year-old sister, a first grader whose name was not made public, lost her leg in the blast, WHDH reported.

The status of his father, William, has not been released. A third child was reportedly unharmed in the explosion.

The Richard family hails from the Ashmont section of Dorchester, Mass.

~ocean 04-16-2013 08:40 AM

~ it seems to me that the bombs were placed as the crowd gathered ~ or they would have been seen in plain sight ~ there was security at the bombing site ~ I agree w/ u all ~ domestic ~ if the word to bomb came from a terrorist organization ~ they succeeded in finding a domestic sick bastard to carry out the fatal task ~ they have an apartment in Revere, ma. in question ~ wich is right out of Boston by 7 miles approx. ~

wahya 04-16-2013 09:18 AM

I tell you I can't imagine what the families are going through. I had to sit on this before i could comment. I am a easy going person but like everyone else this went straight to my heart. and then my anger came out. Damn. So unbelievable. But I had stated in a post in here I was supposed to be there and I wanted to for the first time watch the runners come in instead of watching them run by my place (where I used to live) But someone did not come through with money they owed me. So..yeah i am thankful I did not go. But still feel so much pain for those people that lost their lives and their families. I had a hard time with things like this because I lost a friend who was kinda like a mother in the Killeen TX Luby's restaurant massacre she had taken her daughter and new granddaughter to lunch and the gunman came in and just started randomly shooting people unfortunately even when they tried to hide. He went under tables shooting people who were hiding too. So he found her under the table shielding her daughter and granddaughter and he bent down and shot her point blank in the head. Killed instantly. For awhile I did not want to go anywhere. I struggled with it. But eventually time helped with that. So now with me I feel I will not let ANY terrorist terrorize me from living my life as usual. I still plan on marching in the Gay Pride march & I plan on going to the hemp festival in Boston ( If they are not cancelled) Oh believe me I am not hiding from anyone. EVER. God Bless Boston.

Rockinonahigh 04-16-2013 09:20 AM

I sometimes wonder about humanity that someone could/would do this awfull thing to anyone,any type of violence to anyone is and always will be wrong nomatter how its done or where.It takes at biggest coward to have done this sort of thing,who ever you are out there that did this or had any part in doing this is one sick mofo in my opinion,AS an American and part of this country I refuse to take this anymore.Who ever you are You wont get away with this,I garentee that justice will be on you like nothing ever before,you may hide but weather in this life or the next you will pay for this at the time of reconing.Yes,I am pissed about this big time right along with a whole lot of other people.I take heart that I do know that 99.9% of us are good folks who wouldnt do a thing to harm a soul.I pray the FBI finds the culprit soon before he/she/ they do anymore damage to someone.

StrongButch 04-16-2013 11:27 AM

Boston
 
Tonight when the sun goes down I will do pipe ceremony and send my prayers up in smoke this is how I was taught to pray. I offer my prayers to everyone in Mass and ask everyone to take 5 minutes and say a prayer. I am going to share a Native Prayer with you. "Oh Great Spirit I raise my pipe to you. To your messengers the four winds,and to Mother Earth. Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love,to respect and to be kind to each other. So that they may grow with peace in mind"


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